Thread 513986578

RINO RON PAUL HAS GONE COMPLETELY WOKE AND BETRAYED YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.

Why The US Government Stake in Intel is Fascism, not Communism'
https://x.com/RonPaulInstitut/status/1959314281423425742
The Marriage of State & Corporate Power -- Trump Says Intel "Deal" Is Just The Start
https://x.com/RonPaul/status/1960064263961366934

Whoah wow trump's finished now.

Trump risking American sovereignty over nvidia profits is pretty commie tier

>>513986578 (OP)
Fascism is 'what works' Any government that functions well is fascism. Opposition to fascism is opposition to a functioning system. Ron Paul is a retard.

>muh ebil fascism
grow up

go away laura loomer. you will never be maga

Its actually textbook.
Anyone saying its not is retarded. He just bought 10% of intel using your tax dollars to inflate his own pocket lmfao

>>513987218
Fags like Ron are why the military depends issuing out government contracts for everything.

It'd be nice for the real Springfield Armory to start shitting out guns again.

>>513987355
He's also the reason why all these microprocessor companies are Chinese companies now since he's a "global free market" believer.

>>513987218
And? There's a reason Paul's irrelevant, and it's because the illiterate masses aren't receptive to lolbertism

>ron paul
>rino
You keep using that word, but im not sure you know what it means.

>>513987218
Textbook fascism is ordering Intel to make certain products and not rewarding them with money so much as threatening the owners with jail.

>>513986750
I do not want zion don as a dictator. I want Kalki as our dictator.

>>513987218
>he bought
no, the government got it for free in exchange for intel to continue trading with china. retarded shill.

Woke grandstanders like Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Thomas Massie, and MTG must be primaried and defeated! I am announcing that along with AIPAC, we will be funding the DEFEAT AMERICA PARTY that will primary any Republican that seems to care about America or Americans. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

>>513987622
Fascism isn't areal ideology and is simply "when the government does something"
>that means everything is fascism
Yes, there's a reason the federal government by design had practically no responsibility

>>513986986
So more kike fascism is what we need? talmudic fascism? the noahide laws?

>>513987704
kek

>>513986806
State and corporate power uniting is fascism

Ron Paul lost because he's meek and got bulldozed by the lugenpresse. He was in a close third place and on TV they wouldn't even show his picture, just a silhouette and the percentage underneath. I learned what the lugenpresse was before they went pants-shittingly hard on Trump by watching what they did to Ron Paul.
In the time they had control they almost toppled us into the abyss. They have done a lot of damage to the republic and that requires drastic measure. They need to be humbled otherwise they'll never stop encroaching on me and mine.
I refuse to lose with honor. I want to outmaneuver and defeat them.

>>513986578 (OP)
This is borderline heretics, pisses me the fuck off when these mother fuckers think they know more than trump. The guy almost died for us and now he’s saving our country. I got one word for rand Paul if he doesn’t get his bitch ass senile dad to shut the fuck up. PRIMARY. You’ll get tossed like the other heretic Thomas massie.

>>513987735
You're not an intelligent person I can tell

>>513987858
State and VOLK uniting is also fascism. Corporations should serve the VOLK just as the worker serves the corporation.

This is TALMUDIC FASCISM. THE ULTIMATE FUCKING ENEMY OF 4/pol/

>>513987939
Mussolini was a huge poser

>>513987939
He's just explaining the way leftoids think. Which is pretty retarded.

>>513987926
shut the fuck up jew.

>>513988073
leftoids are only right about a few things, one of them is that fascism is a liberal coup against communists

>>513988040
He had a lot more in common with the black bloc faggots running around, setting shit on fire, and pointing lasers at cops than many would think.

>>513986578 (OP)
Technically correct

It’s socialism, or state capitalism.

>>513988028
Actually this isnt talmudic fascism its a fucking autocratic talmudic plutocracy is EXACTLY what it is. Thanks you fucking kike zion don

>>513988209
It's corruption, but then again, who cares

>>513986578 (OP)
How the fuck is Ron Paul a rhino you fucking retard?

>>513986578 (OP)
Ron Paul is a zigger faggot fuck him

>>513988028
The volk are the people so what you want is communism. Communism is a dictatorship of the people

>>513988110
Just wow

>>513986986
Fascism doesn't work because it relies on cronyism, fucking dumb

>lolbert is a voice of reason
We live in dark times

>>513986986
genuinely wtf are you talking about?

>>513986578 (OP)
Im pro fascism
I want to put boots to trannys, faggots, and niggers. Trash needs to be burned

>>513986578 (OP)
I thought /pol/ revered Ron Paul. Nope. He said bad things aboud daddy Trump. The cult is upset now.

>>513986578 (OP)
The worship for this nigger loving faggot on /pol/ was always misplaced.

Just another libshit cum guzzler masquerading as libertarian

>>513986578 (OP)
dear ron
retire and stfu
love you man

>>513986750
It's not slavery when the state represents your interests. Since we will have a state it should be strong and in the interest of the people. A strong state also protects the rights of the individual.

>>513989014
It worked so well that all the world's resources need to be put to use to stop it. They also had to make up the hall of costs to trick others into thinking its worse than communism.

>>513986806
your entire economy (in fact your entire country) is a jewish joke and no one is laughing anymore except fat retarded cunts like you
nvidia and tesla are two fake stocks propping up your entire fake economy

This is no longer real life. We live in a South Park episode.

>>513986578 (OP)
I am with Ron Paul. I am ashamed to be American because we put a foreign country which is an apartheid state named Israel. I voted for Dr Paul! I said happy birthday to him last week. Where the FUCK ARE THE EPSTEIN FILES?

>>513989213
>nigger loving
>faggot
>The worship on /pol/ was always misplaced
>Just another libshit cum guzzler masquerading as libertarian
Ambiguous as fuck, especially from a memeflaggot.
I don't know if you are talking about Ron Paul or Trump.

>>513988781
National Socialism isn't communism you brain dead faggot. I want Nationalsozialistismus. Big difference you brainlet fucking tard.

Libertarians are fucking losers

Makes sense, given that it’s literally Obama era policies

>>513989178
/pol/ is not a bunch of paid kike shills who fellate a orange puppet of the jews.

Ron Paul will always be based even if we have moved far out of libertarianism into hardcore unrelenting White Nationalism and National Socialism. he is a man of honor and principle.

It's pretty funny that when Obama was being a socialist dictator by trying to make Americans pay for health care the Republicans made a tea party but now that they have their own banana republic cult leader putting a tariff on actual tea they're kicking anyone out of the party who hates new taxes and nationalised industries

>>513986750
ayn rand was more of an ideologue than even marx, who invented one of the worst fairy tales of all time.
don't even get me started on her rambling rants that go on for 30+ pages

>>513989894
Nobody ever gave a shit who John Galt was

>>513986750
now that this horrid lesbian jew has shared her retarded opinion my eyes are truly open, thanks kike

>>513987926
>The guy almost died for us and now he’s saving our country.
This.
The President took a bullet for America and all Rino Ron can do is disrespect him..

>>513987926
>The guy almost died for us
So he's kind of like jesus....... a fraud, praised by cucks.

>>513989894
>ayn rand was more of an ideologue than even marx
she actually lived with the consequences of socialism. her family went from middle class to dirt poor when she was a kid because russia decided to make everyone poor.
>>513986578 (OP)
>RINO RON PAUL HAS GONE COMPLETELY WOKE AND BETRAYED YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
And hes right to do so. I too am an American, not a Republican(tm). he does something I like, i praise him. he does something i dont like I criticize him. i dont like bailing out failing businesses, thats obama level faggotry. so Trump must love sucking obamas asshole and getting railed by king nigger by doing this.

>>513986578 (OP)
fuck that contrarian lolbertarian trying to stay relevant. he had his shot. he failed.

>>513986750
While I agree with her.
I do believe fascism is the best system that will advance humanity in the right direction more than any other form of govt.
Why?
Because the absolute vast majority of people are complete and utter RETARDS!

>>513991615
i'm aware of her upbringing. i think we're actually in agreement about it, that her living conditions made her swing the other way to the extreme
a 2000 page book is a pretty good indicator that someone's big angry (or just Tolkien)

Its Nationalist Socialism lol. Its literally fucking Nazi fascism straight from Mein Kampf. Im sorry but it is. They dissolved federal agencies without government involvement and redirected those resources to a militarized deportation force, and now own business interests, all to enrich the ruling political party. Its fascism.

>>513990690
Ron Paul is going to get his bitch son primaried. Tired of these anti trump woke right idiots. The tucker qatarlsons, the MTGs, the Thomas assys, and now rand Paul needs to get his bitch dad to shut up or he’s in the list and he’s going to get primaried.

>>513991984
Fascism is inherently unstable because the purity and loyalty required are unrealistic, eventually breaking down into arguments and infighting. Authoritarianism ends in rebellion.

>>513986578 (OP)
>The Marriage of State & Corporate Power
Doesn't "corporation" in the fascist sense mean a sector of society with congruent interests, like "urban industrial workers" or "farmers"?

>>513992704
>They dissolved federal agencies without government involvement
????

>>513986986
Friendly reminder that all groypers are brown

>>513992764
Gotta love lolberts man. They grandstand when they give away billions to corporations, then they grandstand if we get anything back out of it, then they grandstand about grandstanding. Truly the party of little Napoleons.

>>513986578 (OP)
Ron Paul hasn't changed one bit, he would have said this exact same thing twenty five years ago. Right or wrong nothing he said is out of line with anything he has said from the past.

>>513987622
>>513986578 (OP)
Government owning businesses, making the private public, is communism, seizing the means of production. Fascism is the private seizing the government, the aristocracy coming back.

>>513986750
this... and when a real opposite appears, right and left become allies

>>513993008
This is what DOGE did. They fired anyone who may not be a loyalist, closed a bunch of offices to 'save money', reinvested in their populist movement. This is outlined in Mein Kampf.

>>513993363
>when they give away billions to corporations
pure fantasy lol statists are retarded

>>513993502
Historically illiterate.

>>513992704
You were happy when the political purity test was the covid vaccine.

>>513986578 (OP)
>giving intel free tax money is good
>owning stock in the company is...le bad
Though Ron would be against giving the private company tax money too , though this is (questionably) part of national security

>>513986750
Ayn Rand was a terrible writer
/thread

>>513987926
>>513988810
>>513990690
>This is borderline heretics
lol miggers accidentally admitting that they worship that kike cocksucker

>>513987926
>>513990690
>>513991772
>>513992764
>>513993363
The r/The_Donald retards are out in full force tonight.
Reminder: release the Epstein files.

>>513988781
>Communism is a dictatorship of the people
lol
Communism is the systematic destruction of all power structures until just the party exists. Kill the nobility, kill landed gentry, kill the family, kill the church, kill everyone who stands in the way of the party so all power resides in the hands of the singular group.

>>513986578 (OP)
They have to get the microchip production up to speed ASAP for the upcoming war with China. It will start as a conflict with Iran, which will start as soon as they make nice with Russia. There is another thread on here with some chink shill saying China is going to take over the world. As if our Ivy league gangsters will let that happen. They may fail but they will certainly make the attempt.

>>513994592
There will never be a war with China. Who would buy their crap? South Africa and Russia?
Chinks aren't that stupid.

>>513986750
Communism is just Fascism for weak ugly people who got picked on in school.

>>513988781
>>513994545
Nationalism plus Authoritarianism is Fascism
Socialism plus Authoritarianism is Communism.

They are both brutal and unreasonable and therefore end in stagnation or rebellion

>>513987892
The Jew media didn’t give Paul much airtime, often deliberately ignored him. Trump got tons of free airtime. Because, guess what, he’s always been their guy. He knew the network execs, they even gave him his own show. They asked him for decades if he’d consider a presidential run. He became a celebrity because of the Jewish media. What you and everyone else fell for was a work, scripted fake fight to sell him as the Republican front runner. Ron Paul was the real deal, went after the central bank and the terror wars, compared to cryptojew Trump who loves Jews more than the goyim.

>>513989336
> when the state represents your interests
In what absurd fantasy is that going to happen?

>>513986578 (OP)
I wish.
still love paul though

>>513995275
Dude, you are replying to a britbong.

>>513992704
>all to enrich the ruling political party
Is that the only people they enriched? Because that is a lie.

You live under a jewish dictatorship with the illusion of political choice and they quite literally enrich themselves at your cost.

>>513986578 (OP)
Talmudic plutocracy is inherently unstable because the purity and loyalty required are unrealistic, eventually breaking down into arguments and infighting. Talmudic plutocracy ends in rebellion.

>>513996131
Yes on a deeper level I agree with you. We are in a post-capitalist oligarchy, both parties and msm millionaires stuffing their pockets, tax bail outs of corporations they have shareholder investments in. Yeah. But the cynical liberal capitalists are letting it happen, until what happened to the German conservatives will happen. Fascism will eat them. And the billionaires will walk away richer and fatter and chant 'oh this was a mistake, never again' until they want their coffers filled

>>513996447
The NSDAP enriched its own people, greatly. That was the entire premise of the NSDAP. Please read the image here >>513989678 in its entirity and learn something. Next, read Hitlers Revolution by Richard Tedor and then you'll be ready to understand Mein Kampf.

Adolf Hitler was the last European leader to give two shits about his people and not the kikes. JFK tried(and admired Adolf Hitler) and got killed for it.

>>513996447
>Yes on a deeper level I agree with you.

>>513996632
I personally think the Germans were just cannon fodder for Hitler. He did not give a shit about those people and actively destroyed the country. Not that it was much better before with liberals obsessed with hunting commies. Funny how history repeats

>>513997246
>He did not give a shit about those people and actively destroyed the country.
Riiiiiiight. Churchill, FDR and Stalin waging war on Germany at the behest of jews means Hitler bad. Not gonna cut it here kid.

>>513987858
>>513988028
You misunderstand Fascism if by "corporate" power you mean myriad private corporations.
...
The corporate power Fascism extols is Leviathan: the State as one personhood. A unitary mode of politics. Where a one-party State rules to make people into one body like a household under one head.

Gentile
>It is the State that possesses a concrete will & must be considered a person.

Giuseppe Bottai
>However, in speaking of the corporative State, it must not be understood as meaning only all that which pertains to the relations between employers and workers – relations based on a principle of collaboration rather than upon a struggle of classes. Fascism with its new arrangements aims at a more complex end. This, summed up in a few words, is "to reassert the sovereignty of the State over those syndicates, which, whether of an economic or social kind, when left to themselves broke out at one time against the State, subjecting the will of the individual to their own arbitrary decision, almost musing the rise of judicial provisions alien to the legal order of the State, opposing their own right to the right of the State, subordinating to their own interests the defenceless classes, and even the general interest, of which the State is naturally the judge, champion and avenger."

Fausto Pitigliani
>That the Corporation has no legal independent personality but is an organ of the State Administration.
>To these organs, which take the name of Corporations and link the various productive activities of the country as members of one body
>The Corporations constitute the unitary organisation of the forces of production and represent all their interests.
>In virtue of this integral representation, and in view of the fact that the interests of production are the interests of the Nation, the law recognises the Corporations as State organs.

In Plato's Republic is State Corporatism:
>That the other citizens too must be sent to the task for which their natures were fitted, one man to one work, in order that each of them fulfilling his own function may be not many men, but one, and so the entire city may come to be not a multiplicity but a unity.

Hobbes Elements of Law
http://www.public-library.uk/ebooks/31/91.pdf
>And as this union into a city or body politic, is instituted with common power over all the particular persons, or members thereof, to the common good of them all; so also may there be amongst a multitude of those members, instituted a subordinate union of certain men, for certain common actions to be done by those men for some common benefit of theirs, or of the whole city; as for subordinate government, for counsel, for trade, and the like. And these subordinate bodies politic are usually called CORPORATIONS; and their power such over the particulars of their own society, as the whole city whereof they are members have allowed them.

>In all cities or bodies politic not subordinate, but independent, that one man or one council, to whom the particular members have given that common power, is called their SOVEREIGN, and his power the sovereign power. which consisteth in the power and the strength that every of the members have transferred to him from themselves, by covenant. And because it is impossible for any man really to transfer his own strength to another, or for that other to receive it; it is to be understood: that to transfer a man's power and strength, is no more but to lay by or relinquish his own right of resisting him to whom he so transferreth it. And every member of the body politic, is called a SUBJECT, (viz.) to the sovereign

>>513994676
It's about trade but not in the way you think. They want to replace the dollar. Just look at the US, produce nothing of value, everything is propped up by the US dollar being the reserve currency. It's quite powerful. China seeks to replace that with their own currency. Which they have a good chance of doing.

For clarity, Hobbes Leviathan also takes this stance on the limitation of subordinate corporations and the sovereign relationship of the state corporation:
>Of Regular, some are Absolute, and Independent, subject to none but their own Representative: such are only Common-wealths [or States]; Of which I have spoken already in the 5. last preceding chapters. Others are Dependent; that is to say, Subordinate to some Soveraign Power, to which every one, as also their Representative is Subject.
>Of Systemes subordinate, some are Politicall, and some Private. Politicall (otherwise Called Bodies Politique, and Persons In Law,) are those, which are made by authority from the Soveraign Power of the Common-wealth. Private, are those, which are constituted by Subjects amongst themselves, or by authoritie from a stranger. For no authority derived from forraign power, within the Dominion of another, is Publique there, but Private.
>In All Bodies Politique [Any Corporation under the State] The Power of The Representative is Limited.
>In Bodies Politique, the power of the Representative is always Limited: And that which prescribes the limits thereof, is the Power Sovereign. For Power Unlimited, is absolute Sovereignty. And the Sovereign, in every Commonwealth, is the absolute Representative of all the Subjects.

Jean Bodin also adds.
>Provided that they [the family] are joined together by the legitimate and limited rule of the father.
>I have said "limited", since this fact chiefly distinguishes the Family from the State.
>That the latter [The State] has the final and public authority.
>The former [The Family or Household] limited and private rule.

This unitary view of State (the corporatist view) originated with Plato.
Plato said the relationship between political / economical was no different: that you can rule the State like one household under one head, that they had a like science and politics was to be unitary.
A one-party state is an extension of that unitary view: uniting the polity under one body in the modern day; before it was absolute monarchy, the pre-eminence of one estate over the estates-general (which represented multi-party democracies, because multi-estates were like multi-parties).

Plato Republic:
>That the other citizens too must be sent to the task for which their natures were fitted, one man to one work, in order that each of them fulfilling his own function may be not many men, but one, and so the entire city may come to be not a multiplicity but a unity.

Plato Republic:
>For factions… are the outcome of injustice, and hatreds and internecine conflicts, but justice brings oneness of mind and love.

Plato Laws:
>That all men are, so far as possible, unanimous in the praise and blame they bestow, rejoicing and grieving at the same things, and that they honor with all their heart those laws which render the State as unified as possible

Aristotle was opposed to this: said political / economical didn't have a like science, and that the state's nature is more of a plurality (endorsing political pluralism, multi-parties, multi-estates under many noble heads).

Aristotle / Since the nature of a State is to be a plurality
>Further, as a means to the end which he ascribes to the State, the scheme, taken literally is impracticable, and how we are to interpret it is nowhere precisely stated. I am speaking of the premise from which the argument of Socrates proceeds, "That the greater the unity of the State the better." Is it not obvious that a state at length attain such a degree of unity as to be no longer a State? since the nature of a State is to be plurality, and in tending to greater unity, from being a State, it becomes a Family, and from being a Family, an Individual; for the Family may be said to be more than the State, and the Individual than the family. So that we ought not to attain this greatest unity even if we could, for it would be the destruction of the State. Again, a State is not made up only of so many men, but of different kinds of men.

Aristotle / state is a partnership of families and of clans in living well, and its object is a full and independent life.
And a state is the partnership of clans and villages in a full and independent life, which in our view constitutes a happy and noble life;
>These are necessary preconditions of a state's existence, yet nevertheless, even if all these conditions are present, that does not therefore make a state, but a state is a partnership of families and of clans in living well, and its object is a full and independent life. At the same time this will not be realized unless the partners do inhabit one and the same locality and practise intermarriage; this indeed is the reason why family relationships have arisen throughout the states, and brotherhoods and clubs for sacrificial rites and social recreations. But such organization is produced by the feeling of friendship, for friendship is the motive of social life; therefore, while the object of a state is the good life, these things are means to that end. And a state is the partnership of clans and villages in a full and independent life, which in our view constitutes a happy and noble life; the political fellowship must therefore be deemed to exist for the sake of noble actions, not merely for living in common. Hence those who contribute most to such fellowship have a larger part in the state than those who are their equals or superiors in freedom and birth but not their equals in civic virtue, or than those who surpass them in wealth but are surpassed by them in virtue.

>>513986750
>posts literal cryptoneolib jew who pushed for individualism because her tribe wanted to flood the west
Not making the point you think you are.

>>513986986
I think this retard means authoritarianism, which is still retarded, but it's less retarded than thinking that about fascism, which is ULTRA retarded.

Aristotle Politics / Anti-State Corporatism / Anti-Absolute Monarchy
>For the people becomes a monarch, and is many in one; and the many have the power in their hands, not as individuals, but collectively. Homer says that ‘it is not good to have a rule of many,’ but whether he means this corporate rule, or the rule of many individuals, is uncertain. At all events this sort of democracy, which is now a monarch and no longer under the control of law, seeks to exercise monarchical sway, and grows into a despot; the flatterer is held in honor; this sort of democracy being relatively to other democracies what tyranny is to other forms of monarchy. The spirit of both is the same, and they alike exercise a despotic rule over the better citizens.
Contrast this with Plato again (who does support many in one & state corporatism & unitary notions of State)
>That the other citizens too must be sent to the task for which their natures were fitted, one man to one work, in order that each of them fulfilling his own function may be not many men, but one, and so the entire city may come to be not a multiplicity but a unity.

Aristotle:
>Now there is an erroneous opinion that a statesman, king, householder, and a master are the same, and that they differ, not in kind, but only in the number of their subjects. For example, the ruler over a few is called a master; over more, the manager of a household; over a still larger number, a statesman or king, as if there were no difference between a great household and a small state.
>For some are of opinion that the rule of a master is a science, and that the management of a household, and the mastership of slaves, and the political and royal rule, as I was saying at the outset, are all the same.

Aristotle:
>The rule of a household is a monarchy, for every house is under one head:
>whereas constitutional rule is a government of freemen and equals.

>>513986578 (OP)
Transistor production is key to military strength. Intel is our primary producer of that technology. At least this is out in the open, rather than usual backchannel glowie control of it.

Mario Palmieri:
>To make this discipline possible, and the sovereignty effective in practice as well as in theory, Fascism has devised the “Corporazione,” an instrument of social life destined to exercise the most far-reaching influence upon the economic development of Fascist States. (The Italian word “Corporazione” which is currently translated into English by the apparently analogous word “Corporation,” means, more exactly in the Italian language, what the word “Guild” means in English; that is: associations of persons engaged in kindred pursuits. We shall nevertheless follow the general usage to obviate the danger of misunderstandings.)
>Within the Corporations the interests of producers and consumers, employers and employees, individuals and associations are interlocked and integrated in a unique and univocal way, while all types of interests are brought under the aegis of the State.

Benito Mussolini:
Speech of the Ascension, May 26, 1927
The Unitary State
>But in the meantime I come to an essential point of my speech: perhaps the most important. What have we Fascists done in these last five years? We did something huge, monumental, centuries in the making. What have we made? We have created the Italian Unitary State. Consider that from the time of the Empire onward, Italy was no longer a unitary State. Here we solemnly reaffirm our doctrine concerning the State; here I reaffirm my formula in the speech I delivered at La Scala in Milan: "Everything within the State, nothing against the State". I do not even think anyone in the 20th century can live outside the State, unless they are in a state of barbarism, a state of savagery.

>It is only the State that gives people a consciousness of itself. If the people are not organized, if the people are not a State, they are simply a population that will be at the mercy of the first group of internal adventurers or external invaders. Because, dear gentlemen, only the State with its juridical organization, with its military force, prepared at all times, can defend the national collectivity; but if the human collectivity is broken up and reduced to the mere nucleus of the family, a few hundred Normans will suffice to conquer Puglia.

>What was the State – that State which we took over as it was breathing its last breath, gnawed by constitutional crises, debased by its organic impotence? The State which we conquered at the time of the March on Rome was the one which has been handed down from 1850 onward. It was not a State, but a system of badly organized prefectures, in which the prefect had but one preoccupation: that of being an efficient electoral errand boy.

Fascism and Democracy
>In that State, until 1922, the proletariat – what shall I say? the entire people – was absent, refractory, hostile. Today we announce to the world the creation of the powerful Unitary Italian State from the Alps to Sicily. And this State expresses itself in a centralized, organized, unitary democracy in which the people move about at ease, because, gentlemen, either you place the people within the citadel of the State, and they will defend it, or they will be outside, and they will assault it.

>>513986750
I like individualism.

But rand scares me.