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Anonymous (ID: lnbcCTQc) No.513988054 >>513988322 >>513988403 >>513990974 >>513990976 >>513991773 >>513996404 >>513996437 >>513998777 >>514000594 >>514001729 >>514001765 >>514005438 >>514006011 >>514008860 >>514011591 >>514011731 >>514013449 >>514014919 >>514014995 >>514016609 >>514016716 >>514016769 >>514018929 >>514019146 >>514019406 >>514019717 >>514020262 >>514022488 >>514024213 >>514024684 >>514024787 >>514025919 >>514026584 >>514027913
China winning again
>Does nothing
>Prices goes down
>Free food for everyone
>Wins again
Meanwhile westoids constantly complain about how expensive everything is.
Anonymous (ID: nkkhiAY9) United States No.513988322 >>513988479 >>513990744 >>513991817 >>513998968 >>514000478 >>514004660 >>514005500 >>514011888 >>514013475 >>514018085 >>514018390 >>514019238 >>514019254 >>514024628 >>514024779 >>514025144
>>513988054 (OP)
You're spinning deflation as a flex. Hahahaha. Retard.
Anonymous (ID: //j08n7x) Romania No.513988358 >>513988845 >>513999434
I mean yeah, that's how deflation works. People hoard their currency since it appreciates in value = companies need to lower their prices and find ways to convince ppl to spend money.
Anonymous (ID: JZfpLwuI) United States No.513988403 >>513988479 >>513989015 >>513990844 >>513998805 >>514004312 >>514004762 >>514005500 >>514019199 >>514019238 >>514020183 >>514024923
>>513988054 (OP)
deflation is worse than inflation just FYI
Anonymous (ID: hoIsy62v) No.513988479 >>513988807 >>514000502
>>513988322
>>513988403
These are the best goyim we could ever hope for.
Anonymous (ID: JZfpLwuI) United States No.513988807
>>513988479
you're a memeflag kike
Anonymous (ID: eGBg5xC+) No.513988845 >>513989021 >>513990518 >>513990883 >>513991686 >>514018127 >>514019187 >>514019960 >>514022553
>>513988358
what's the downside?
Anonymous (ID: XLsqfy0C) United States No.513989015 >>513989108 >>514022173
>>513988403
Worse for who? Worse for who, kike?
Anonymous (ID: //j08n7x) Romania No.513989021 >>513989129 >>514005500
>>513988845
Job market gets fucked and those with debt get raped.
Anonymous (ID: JZfpLwuI) United States No.513989108 >>513989288 >>513989303 >>513995281 >>514019146 >>514019599 >>514024754
>>513989015
the economy you fucking gorilla nigger. if no one's buying anything then you get mass layoffs and suddenly everyone's poor
Anonymous (ID: hoIsy62v) No.513989129 >>513989302
>>513989021
>those with debt get raped.
so... like don't take on debt or something?
Anonymous (ID: hoIsy62v) No.513989288 >>513989431
>>513989108
>no one's buying anything
How come the price of electronics keeps falling and people only buy more of them? Shouldn't they be holding out forever because in the future the price will drop? But now you can get a 60" 4K TV for $300 and people have them in every room? What's the neoliberal explanation for this?
Anonymous (ID: //j08n7x) Romania No.513989302 >>513989425 >>513990835 >>514004366 >>514020822
>>513989129
Yeah but like most people have 30 year mortgages and shit to pay so if deflation hits they're screwed.
Anonymous (ID: WKMjXB8f) United States No.513989303 >>513989431 >>513989870 >>513990539
>>513989108
>mass layoffs and suddenly everyone's poor
As opposed to what? Skyrocketing prices, no jobs, and everyone's poor, like we have now?
You sure are fucking intelligent.
Anonymous (ID: hoIsy62v) No.513989425
>>513989302
So the solution is to babysit retards forever in a communist system without calling it "communism"?
Anonymous (ID: JZfpLwuI) United States No.513989431 >>513989588 >>513989633 >>513989818
>>513989303
>>513989288
what you just described was stagflation but you're too retarded to understand the difference because you're a nigger
Anonymous (ID: 3hQhRKpb) New Zealand No.513989588
>>513989431
That is effectively what we have in the west for almost 2 decades
Anonymous (ID: hoIsy62v) No.513989633 >>513990053
>>513989431
People don't hold out of purchases of essential items when prices are dropping. If prices are dropping people can afford to buy more units of product. Come on, goy, it's simple math.
Anonymous (ID: WKMjXB8f) United States No.513989818 >>513998538
>>513989431
>unironically using doublespeak to make your retarded point
Anonymous (ID: hoIsy62v) No.513989870 >>513990017
>>513989303
>what happens when printed dollars go "poof" into the void?
We will actually get to see it happen in real life.
Anonymous (ID: WKMjXB8f) United States No.513990017
>>513989870
I look forward to dodging defenestrated kikes plunging from second story windows.
Anonymous (ID: 3hQhRKpb) New Zealand No.513990053
>>513989633
Wtf but that way Mr Goldberg won't be able to keep up on the payments of his over leveraged 800 rental units
Anonymous (ID: XIglWkfE) No.513990518
>>513988845
Big corpos have to compete for less, less tourists, less immigration. Truly tragic
Anonymous (ID: eGBg5xC+) No.513990539 >>513990992
>>513989303
>As opposed to what? Skyrocketing prices, no jobs, and everyone's poor, like we have now?
Yeah it seems strange. We have inflation now and I only buy things I need like food and gas because everything is so fucking expensive and my money isn't worth anything. If things were cheaper I'd buy more. And so would other people, look at sales, look at Black Friday. They're willing to kill their fellow man to buy shit they don't need because it's cheap. If a TV, car or boat etc was 20-50% cheaper due to deflation wouldn't people buy them in droves? Why would they sit on them? They consume, that's what they do, they're consumers.
Something seems fishy here.
Anonymous (ID: qqp4ptju) United States No.513990744 >>513995966 >>514019953
>>513988322
It is a flex when all I’ve ever known is hyperinflation my entire life.
Anonymous (ID: qqp4ptju) United States No.513990835
>>513989302
That doesn’t sound so bad. I’m tired of debt based ((service)) economy bullshit
Anonymous (ID: kw6439Fm) United Kingdom No.513990841
China is far better, than the west wants to portray
Anonymous (ID: qEt6iyqA) United States No.513990844
>>513988403
For the 1% maybe.
Anonymous (ID: HsibIOA+) United States No.513990883
>>513988845
>what's the downside
Nigger
Anonymous (ID: cregrPRj) No.513990974 >>513991164
>>513988054 (OP)
i thought china in a constant state of food shortage? why free food?
Anonymous (ID: uAz24Yq3) United States No.513990976 >>513991335 >>513991589
>>513988054 (OP)
>Free food for everyone
they're all bankrupting each other out of spite
Anonymous (ID: WKMjXB8f) United States No.513990992
>>513990539
I don't know. I've lost my taste for everything. I walk my dog and read books from the library. I don't spend the money I have, I just let it accumulate. Everything is gay, brown, and shoddy. There's simply nothing worth my money or attention.
Anonymous (ID: TkkqdVrc) Switzerland No.513991164
>>513990974
They've been self-sufficient for a long time. They import for luxury and storage. Everything else is usaid propaganda paid for by the us congress.
Anonymous (ID: TkkqdVrc) Switzerland No.513991335
>>513990976
Overproduction must be reduced, now that you've decided to lower your standard of living. Let the people benefit from it.
Anonymous (ID: vSAkee4Q) United States No.513991589
>>513990976
>they're all bankrupting each other out of spite
This. Otherwise, they managed to retain an economy and go post scarcity which didn't work for us (great depression).
Anonymous (ID: omtdd8IF) United States No.513991686
>>513988845
For me, it was when overtime stopped and we had deflation during Covid. Prices were lower, but also my take-home went down.
It would have been cool if I made the same amount, but prices went down.
Anonymous (ID: 7rYFwaJ6) Germany No.513991773 >>514005557
>>513988054 (OP)
The west has the worst of both worlds when it comes to economics.
We have open and free markets so companies don't owe allegiance to their nation of origin.
And we have corruption in favor of corporate elites.

At least Russia forces companies to be loyal even if they have insane corruption.
Same with China.
As a result both economies profit even when the US fucks them.

It's why this Intel thing Trump is doing could actually be incredibly intelligent if Trump either gets his shit together or the next president understands that government taking stake in businesses that are essential to the continuation of the nation is a good thing.
Anonymous (ID: TkkqdVrc) Switzerland No.513991817 >>513992167
>>513988322
It's not true deflation. At least not the dangerous kind where over-indebted people have to sell all their assets. It's simply the reduction of overproduction.
Anonymous (ID: vSAkee4Q) United States No.513992167 >>513992635 >>513992771
>>513991817
>It's simply the reduction of overproduction.
It took the government having to pay farmers to spill their milk down the drain just to have dairies continue to exist. Major infrastructure projects had to be done just to play the make work game because nobody needed to work a full shift when production was slowed.
We had to get into a major war just to keep our currency alive.
Yeah, so simple.
Anonymous (ID: TkkqdVrc) Switzerland No.513992635 >>513993109 >>514022802
>>513992167
We're also familiar with butter mountains in Europe. Overproduction, however, doesn't lead to a loss of confidence in the currency and therefore doesn't cause hyperinflation. Moreover, the chink government is known for being very pragmatic. They'll simply let anything go bankrupt that is not needed.
Anonymous (ID: 7rYFwaJ6) Germany No.513992771 >>513993167
>>513992167
I read someone recently comparing the US manufacturing and product base now to be the modern equivalent of WWII Japan/Germany.
Where we had superior designs but it didn't matter because we weren't focused on mass employment or spreading the work out to allow mass production.
Anonymous (ID: vSAkee4Q) United States No.513993109 >>513993897
>>513992635
>doesn't cause hyperinflation
Did somebody say the great depression had hyperinflation? Actual dollar bills were scarce, not plentiful.
Anonymous (ID: TkkqdVrc) Switzerland No.513993167 >>514005047 >>514020193
>>513992771
At that time, everyone in Germany worked. Hitler even had the unemployed forcibly recruited, especially for autobahn construction. Productivity was very high. That's why they forced a showdown through poland. If Hitler had not fallen for poland and had given Germany a few more years to develop, it would probably have been unbeatable.
Anonymous (ID: TkkqdVrc) Switzerland No.513993897 >>513994116
>>513993109
Because the gold standard prevented this. 2008 was a black friday event, and if there had been a gold standard, you would have had another great depression. But fiat enabled you to postpone the crisis. Thats why you're now trapped between inflation and deflation. But I digress.
Anonymous (ID: vSAkee4Q) United States No.513994116
>>513993897
>But fiat enabled you to prolong the crisis.
ftfy
Anonymous (ID: vAVEHo3E) United States No.513995281 >>513995632
>>513989108
Housing is so expensive no one's buying anything and soon builders will be laying off. Shit gets fucked both ways
Anonymous (ID: vSAkee4Q) United States No.513995632
>>513995281
>Housing is so expensive no one's buying anything and soon builders will be laying off. Shit gets fucked both ways
The fix is to raise wages but then the top 1% stops being able to brag about their high score.
Anonymous (ID: CdoxUSJb) Colombia No.513995899 >>513998704 >>513998711 >>513999068
>People buy less when things are cheaper
That literally contradicts the supply and demand law, which is literally the first law you learn in Econ 101.
Anonymous (ID: HfMU1d9G) United States No.513995966 >>514028070
>>513990744
You haven’t known hyperinflation. But when the global debt bubble pops, and all those US dollars come home, then you will.
Anonymous (ID: btO/PMHf) United States No.513996404
>>513988054 (OP)
Yes, the half priced gookie bag. Well done bug boy.
Anonymous (ID: 9aRbB32V) United States No.513996437
>>513988054 (OP)
>half price designer bags
lul
Anonymous (ID: JZfpLwuI) United States No.513998538
>>513989818
its not doublespeak, you need to have an understanding that there is a distinct difference between stagflation or deflation otherwise this conversation is moot.
Anonymous (ID: FRWx9jRG) United States No.513998704
>>513995899
>demand drops
>new equilibrium at both lower price and lower quantity
>literally econ 101
Anonymous (ID: JZfpLwuI) United States No.513998711
>>513995899
you're literally colombian you yourself should know the dangers of deflation.
Anonymous (ID: hJdVSFkV) United States No.513998777 >>514000872
>>513988054 (OP)
>he thinks deflation is good
Anonymous (ID: 7JD09m/Z) Australia No.513998805 >>513999295
>>513988403
>deflation is worse than inflation
for whom?
Anonymous (ID: nyqMLvjZ) United States No.513998968 >>513999049
>>513988322
Deflation is necessary to flush trash out of the markets (DEI hires, women employees, zombie tech companies) and stabilize prices. You are an absolute retard for promoting endless hyperinflation like what we've had since COVID (and arguably since even 2008).
Anonymous (ID: JZfpLwuI) United States No.513999049 >>513999425
>>513998968
lolol you think this is hyperinflation? its going to get a lot worse nigger
Anonymous (ID: l8lTyDZ2) Canada No.513999068
>>513995899
Cris?
Anonymous (ID: FRWx9jRG) United States No.513999295 >>513999408 >>514005893
>>513998805
Most people. The increasing value of money incentivizes holding rather than spending, so spending goes down and the economy crashes as there isn't enough demand for goods and services to keep people employed, which further reduces demand as they no longer have income to spend. People with a lot of cash on hand may be better in an accounting sense, but they may find it difficult to buy what they want in a crashed economy.
Anonymous (ID: 7JD09m/Z) Australia No.513999408 >>513999632
>>513999295
i see no downsides to this
Anonymous (ID: nyqMLvjZ) United States No.513999425 >>513999632
>>513999049
>you think this is hyperinflation?

Prices for goods and services up hundreds of percent since just 2020? Close enough.

>its going to get a lot worse nigger
Not if we have a Recession (deflation), which we desperately need. We haven't had one since 2008, and people wonder why now in 2025, almost 20 years later, shit is so fucking expensive for such trash quality. We are long overdue for a Recession to flush this trash out of the market and bring prices back down to fair value.
Anonymous (ID: J7+SrRUW) United States No.513999434 >>514000126
>>513988358
Thats what the people who inflate the currency say.
People still need to buy what they need and they will use the money they have for that.
Anonymous (ID: FRWx9jRG) United States No.513999632 >>513999862 >>514000623 >>514004156
>>513999408
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression

>>513999425
>Close enough.
Actual hyperinflation can involve price increases above a hundred percent per day. It comes about when a government owes a debt in currency which it does not control, and prints enormous amounts of currency it does control in an attempt to buy the other currency to pay the debt.
Anonymous (ID: nyqMLvjZ) United States No.513999862 >>514000126
>>513999632
>ACKSHUALLY

Nobody cares, faggot. Go take your paypig, pro-inflationary, debate bro shilling back to fucking reddit.
Anonymous (ID: FRWx9jRG) United States No.514000126 >>514000671
>>513999434
>they will use the money they have for that.
If they were fired from their job because people aren't buying the goods/services the employer provides, they may not have money to spend. And the things they used to buy may not be made any more because people stopped buying them.

>>513999862
>debate bro shilling
Wait. Is your point here that you know you're wrong and can't argue it? Because I know what I'm talking about and explained it to you? I've encountered this before, but it's pretty rare to have someone say it.
Anonymous (ID: 1E5u6diN) Hong Kong No.514000478
>>513988322
>
Anonymous (ID: QMktB6jd) Estonia No.514000502
>>513988479
>shilling commies
>memeflag
:DD
Anonymous (ID: sICvmSxg) United States No.514000594
>>513988054 (OP)
>be China
>abandon communism
>become pseudo-Natsoc
>suddenly there's food everywhere
Incredible. Simply incredible.
Anonymous (ID: 7JD09m/Z) Australia No.514000623 >>514000695
>>513999632
based it will speed up deportations of non's
Anonymous (ID: nyqMLvjZ) United States No.514000671 >>514001341 >>514001617
>>514000126
Your 2010 efforts of spinning off the topic of discussion into a debate over semantics is outdated and dull. Also, you are wrong, if a country prints its own currency to pay off a debt denominated in a foreign currency, the inflation is off-shored to the foreign currency upon conversion into said currency, thus negating any inflation felt in the local economy. So do you still want to get continue your dumb little conversation and embarrass yourself, or shall we get back to the topic at hand?
Anonymous (ID: FRWx9jRG) United States No.514000695
>>514000623
This is a depression in China we're talking about here, anon.
Anonymous (ID: nyqMLvjZ) United States No.514000872
>>513998777
How much is Blackrock paying you, shill?
Anonymous (ID: FRWx9jRG) United States No.514001341 >>514004504
>>514000671
>Your 2010 efforts of spinning off the topic of discussion into a debate over semantics is outdated and dull.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? And I note that you don;t say that I'm wrong.

>if a country prints its own currency to pay off a debt denominated in a foreign currency, the inflation is off-shored to the foreign currency upon conversion into said currency, thus negating any inflation felt in the local economy.
Nope. If Country A owes a debt to Country B in Country B's currency, Country A needs to buy Country B's currency from someone. So country A prints some of Country A's currency to do that. The person who just bought Country A's currency did so to buy things in Country A, where that currency can be used to buy things. So now there's more of Country A's currency in Country A. The Country B currency which Country A purchased was paid to Country B to pay off some of the debt, and so it goes back into Country B's economy.

But there is still more debt to be paid. Country A tries to buy more of Country B's currency, but with the recent addition of currency into Country A's economy, things cost more, so it would take more to buy what people would want that currency for. So it takes more printing to get the same amount of Country B's currency as before, and the cycle repeats, only to a greater degree.

But then people notice that Country A's currency is losing value pretty fast. People who would want to use it to buy things in Country A reason that they need even more of it to have the purchasing power they'd want by the time they get around to spending it. So they demand even more of Country A's currency to give up some of Country B's currency. This cycle can continue to ridiculous degrees, because at that point people would demand ridiculous amounts of Country A's currency to trade for some of Country B's currency.

Any questions on hyperinflation?
Anonymous (ID: FRWx9jRG) United States No.514001617
>>514000671
>upon conversion into said currency
Wait a minute. I think I see your problem here. When a currency is "converted" into another currency, it involves people trading certain amounts of one currency for another. The Dollars don't actually become Euros, say. There's the same amount of each as before the "conversion", they're just owned by different people.
Anonymous (ID: lJbQBaUN) United States No.514001729
>>513988054 (OP)
A theoretical free market is supposed to have profits approaching $0 and maximum consumer surplus yet when China does this all the " free market economists" onions out.
Anonymous (ID: HzqOOlfi) No.514001765
>>513988054 (OP)

Not true. I am in China my friend, and you still gotta pay for everything.
Anonymous (ID: 3SYXvkVY) United States No.514004156 >>514005083
>>513999632
Retard

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Deflation

>however, nominal wages remained steady, resulting in a pronounced and prolonged rise in real wages, disposable income and savings – essentially giving birth to the middle class.
Anonymous (ID: 3SYXvkVY) United States No.514004222
Migaslaves are so brainwashed at this point that it's funny
Anonymous (ID: QJ9gl2M0) United States No.514004312
>>513988403
Worse for who?
Anonymous (ID: IzeXRa4S) United States No.514004366
>>513989302
that's not really a problem in china though.
Anonymous (ID: QJ9gl2M0) United States No.514004504
>>514001341
Nice hypnotically walltext. Meanwhile in reality I can't afford groceries and Chinese people are getting free food
Anonymous (ID: voviQwZ7) Sweden No.514004660
>>513988322
>You're spinning deflation as a flex. Hahahaha. Retard.

You're spinning stagflation as a flex. Mega retard. No wait. Amerimutt.
Anonymous (ID: voviQwZ7) Sweden No.514004762
>>513988403
>deflation is worse than inflation just FYI

Thats a core tenent of jewish theology a.k.a economics and it is completely false. It is good for people and companies not mega leveraged with loans.
Anonymous (ID: 3SYXvkVY) United States No.514004930 >>514005141
I love how jews fuck over stupid white people with inflation and money printing while gaslighting them about how it's necessary.
these dumb mutts will believe anything

Then when it gets really bad the jews flip over to communism and proceed to fuck them over again just from the other side.
It's what you get for trusting them. There will never be an ethno nationalist western country you're all slaves to kikes.
Anonymous (ID: G3C/kmRa) United States No.514005047
>>513993167
>That's why they forced a showdown through poland. If Hitler had not fallen for poland and had given Germany a few more years to develop, it would probably have been unbeatable.
the molotov pact might have been high stakes retardation. looking at the soviet army in 39-41 they were even weaker had they not agreed to invade poland. they could have folded poland and kept on going. stalin was gulaging an enormous amount of officers and the late 30s in the kremlin were disturbing. russia was extremely weak in 1940 still and only in 41 began to come around. 41 was too late.
Anonymous (ID: FRWx9jRG) United States No.514005083
>>514004156
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Deflation
>The Great Deflation or the Great Sag refers to the period from 1870 until 1890 in which the world prices of goods, materials and labor decreased, although at a low rate of less than 2% annually.
Deflation over the crunch of the Great Depression was 7-10% per year.
Anonymous (ID: FRWx9jRG) United States No.514005141 >>514005234
>>514004930
Or maybe, there are problems associated with both inflation and deflation.
Anonymous (ID: 3hQhRKpb) New Zealand No.514005234 >>514005623 >>514005861
>>514005141
Deflation sounds based, things get cheaper. It will reward based people who save, and fuck Over leveraged kikes
Anonymous (ID: 3SYXvkVY) United States No.514005360
>producing things is bad. Let me rent seek by inflating financial assets like housing and stockerinos forever
>then when my 20x levered stockerino market implodes I'll steal your tax money with bailouts and then gaslight you how deflation is bad so I get more printed money
Hahaha
Lmao

I'm done cya retarded mutts
Enjoy sucking on that schlong
Anonymous (ID: pqDdWpCE) United States No.514005438 >>514005524
>>513988054 (OP)
Mass deflation is also a sign of a seriously fucked economy.
Anonymous (ID: rcj3YGwF) United States No.514005500
>>513988322
>>513988403
>>513989021
>deflation le bad

well, if you don't want deflation, you could just pass a giant spending bill, desu

so what about inflation?
Anonymous (ID: 3hQhRKpb) New Zealand No.514005524
>>514005438
What do you mean mass deflation? Why is it a sign? Housing getting cheaper is bad?
Anonymous (ID: 1wZrF9Vb) Australia No.514005557
>>513991773
>It's why this Intel thing Trump is doing could actually be incredibly intelligent if Trump either gets his shit together or the next president understands that government taking stake in businesses that are essential to the continuation of the nation is a good thing.
I think the Intel CO just said what Trump wanted to hear, there's a lot of that going on, the South Korean dude just gave Trump Seoul.
Anonymous (ID: nyqMLvjZ) United States No.514005623
>>514005234
>Deflation sounds based, things get cheaper. It will reward based people who save, and fuck Over leveraged kikes

/thread
Anonymous (ID: lbEDVilH) United States No.514005861 >>514006665
>>514005234
Problem is that most businesses are overleveraged out the ass. No one's going to have jobs so they can buy all the cheap shit
fuck you all (ID: 5ESQAGpr) Chile No.514005867
>1pbtid
>memeflag
>stupid, retarded opinion
>100 replies
Anonymous (ID: 0Iioe5p5) Canada No.514005893 >>514007250
>>513999295
>The increasing value of money incentivizes holding rather than spending, so spending goes down and the economy crashes as there isn't enough demand for goods and services to keep people employed, which further reduces demand as they no longer have income to spend. People with a lot of cash on hand may be better in an accounting sense, but they may find it difficult to buy what they want in a crashed economy.
Historically this doesn't happen. Consider the US economy from 1812 to 1864. Average 3% price decline per year, the economy was absolutely booming.

>The increasing value of money incentivizes holding rather than spending, so spending goes down
Actually, I want to focus on this particular bit of idiocy for a moment in particular: economists would have you believe that people will not buy a washing machine because it would be a few percent cheaper to wait a year before buying it, and then wait another year because it'll be cheaper, and then another year, and then another year... people will just not buy a washing machine ever, and wash their clothes by hand. And they won't buy a kettle to boil water, or a stove to cook food... in fact, people will just live in the woods because it makes the most sense not to buy anything because it'll be cheaper next year.

Hopefully this illustrates how retarded the concept is, but if you're still not convinced, consider computers: through the 90s and 00s computers and computer hardware generally experienced price declines, and for the performance you got they experienced titanic price declines - yet people still bought them and it was in fact (and still is) one of the most phenomenally profitable industries on the planet, with Apple in particular becoming the single most valuable corporation in existence. Why didn't people just hold onto their money?

Because people like to buy stuff, and are not emotionless economic value maximization machines.

Kill yourself, retard.
Anonymous (ID: cl7ljMPt) Canada No.514006011 >>514019726 >>514019801 >>514019923
>>513988054 (OP)
meanwhile in the west:
>people spend less
we had to increase prices because we deliberately produced less since the goyim arent buying
>people spend more
we had to increase prices due to increased demand due to the artificial shortage we created for the goyim
>people stopped buying entirely
we had to replace the goyim with brownoids because nobody is going into payment plan debt for a $45 crunch wrap supreme combo
Anonymous (ID: 3hQhRKpb) New Zealand No.514006665
>>514005861
Based, let the kike businesses collapse
Anonymous (ID: FRWx9jRG) United States No.514007250 >>514007473 >>514012832 >>514012832
>>514005893
>Consider the US economy from 1812 to 1864. Average 3% price decline per year, the economy was absolutely booming.
13 recessions over that time.

>Hopefully this illustrates how retarded the concept is
No. Delaying major purchases until they're more affordable is something people do all the time, especially if they're currently making do without.

>through the 90s and 00s computers and computer hardware generally experienced price declines
Because that particular sector of the economy was seeing major technological improvements. Overall prices still went up over that time, with average inflation of a few percent per year, which incentivises spending over saving.

>Because people like to buy stuff, and are not emotionless economic value maximization machines.
But neither are most people mindless consoomers. Most people weigh options, especially when money is tight.
Anonymous (ID: Be5dbCA3) No.514007280
why doesnt china make more porn then,.
Anonymous (ID: 3hQhRKpb) New Zealand No.514007473 >>514016350
>>514007250
>Delaying major purchases until they're more affordable is something people do all the time,
Like what?
Anonymous (ID: /tfnk4aY) United States No.514008860 >>514010886
>>513988054 (OP)
Chinkve been printing money like its going out of style because of deflation. Sounds fucked to me.
Anonymous (ID: 3hQhRKpb) New Zealand No.514010886
>>514008860
So more money, and their money is worth more? Based China!
Anonymous (ID: c7x9rxrC) Germany No.514011591 >>514013398
>>513988054 (OP)
>overproduce so much that you have to give it for free so you can tell your investors you sold everything
>"winning"
kek
Anonymous (ID: 2yMGNNBU) Bosnia and Herzegovina No.514011731
>>513988054 (OP)
>half-price designer bags
redpill me on this. provide links
Anonymous (ID: Jcqa0UkO) United Kingdom No.514011888
>>513988322
If deflation is due to technological a d scientific advances then it's a substantial good. See how prices fell during the industrial revolution for example.
Anonymous (ID: vZXpDdBC) Brazil No.514012832 >>514016350
>>514007250
>No. Delaying major purchases until they're more affordable is something people do all the time, especially if they're currently making do without.
Wrong, even in housing which is something that's probably gonna be the biggest single purchase in a person's life people tend to FOMO and overpay.

>>514007250
>But neither are most people mindless consoomers. Most people weigh options, especially when money is tight
If only that was true anon, if only that was true.

Like the other anon said, people don't spend money because they think if they don't it will lose its value, that only happens in scenarios of hyperinflation, people spend money because there are things they need and things they want and must have(consoom). Inflation/deflation percentages near 0% are largely irrelevant to spending habits.
Anonymous (ID: MYEdAdDZ) New Zealand No.514013398 >>514013497 >>514016437
>>514011591
Here is why cheap and free things are bad for you
Anonymous (ID: B2yQ5NtT) Poland No.514013449
>>513988054 (OP)
>subsidized sector arbitrarily sets a price
That's a sector in collapse not growth
Anonymous (ID: /jVkBcJR) Australia No.514013475
>>513988322
NOOO THINGS SHOULDNT BECOME CHEAPER
Anonymous (ID: B2yQ5NtT) Poland No.514013497 >>514013720
>>514013398
There is no such thing as something free. When you are producing something and you have no value or return from it what incentive do you have to keep producing it. China is headed for same collapse as ussr
Anonymous (ID: 3hQhRKpb) New Zealand No.514013720
>>514013497
It is the price wars, it comes from intense competition between different companies, so they resort to things like free give aways in order to gain more consumers.
>omg like, tots never free things, like omg
Shut the fuck up rat
Anonymous (ID: 8yJKMyuu) United States No.514014807
>free

Gommrade, have these expired goods and eat them...nevermind the cast iron,lead,cadmium,arsenic, or human remains just own dah capitalists
Anonymous (ID: 1TpnQx0y) United States No.514014919
>>513988054 (OP)
1 cent profit is better than 0 cent profit.
Anonymous (ID: q2HKXuj1) United States No.514014995
>>513988054 (OP)
Let's be real, the United States is having the same issue, but they're just throwing the surplus food away. That's why they busted down on that fat kid eating chicken legs.
Anonymous (ID: FRWx9jRG) United States No.514016350
>>514007473
>Like what?
>>514012832
>even in housing
The example anon mentioned above is a washing machine. It's a major appliance which saves time and labor, but which a lot of people do without because the advantages weigh against the substantial cost of buying one.
Anonymous (ID: c7x9rxrC) Germany No.514016437
>>514013398
>forced to produce stuff that nobody wants or the bubble collapses and the foreign investors start to ask question
kek, ahmed you dont know anything about chinese business methods
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514016609 >>514016740
>>513988054 (OP)
Lmao it’s like watching niggers not understand β€œper capita” live.
Anonymous (ID: CrBClHzD) No.514016716
>>513988054 (OP)
SHUT YOUR FUCKING FACE CHANG.... YOU AIN'T NEVER WON A WAR... IN YOUR FUCKING ENTIRE HISTORY SO GET BENT YOU STUPID FUCKER
Anonymous (ID: CrBClHzD) No.514016740
>>514016609
YEAH AND NO FUCKING KIDS CAUSE THEY'RE SCARED OF SEX LIKE FUCKING FAGGOTS
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514016769 >>514017537
>>513988054 (OP)
Also the fun fact about that little bit of drama was that because the economy is doing so bad out there, major state owned brands decided to muscle in on the food delivery market and just outbid the food delivery players by offering practically free food. Which means that every single company that engaged in this price war just ate millions in costs and are very likely gonna add to the shitpile of debt that CCP seems to be systematically collecting across the nation.
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514017537 >>514017666
>>514016769
I had to add to it, I feel like it’s very poetic way for their economy to die. They loved to offload their surplus to other countries and out id everyone with cheap prices by practically breaking laws everywhere and driving millions out of business.

And now they’re eating themselves alive.
Anonymous (ID: MYEdAdDZ) New Zealand No.514017666 >>514017804
>>514017537
2 weeks until China collapses from cheap housing?
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514017804 >>514017960
>>514017666
What is collapse to you? What do you call systemic wage cuts, unemployment, homelessness, starvation, etc.

If you think the west β€œis over” because of all these problems, I can’t wait till you find about even a fraction about China, shill.
Anonymous (ID: MYEdAdDZ) New Zealand No.514017960 >>514018036
>>514017804
>What do you call systemic wage cuts, unemployment, homelessness
I call that the West
>I can’t wait till you find about even a fraction about China
I do have Chinese friends inside China, i know much more than you think you know by watching China over youtube videos
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514018036 >>514018342
>>514017960
Oh, do you? Do your friends in China know what the whole price war was about, you disingenuous shill faggot? Do you even know how bad of a price war this thing was? You’re like a nigger who thinks that whites commit the most crimes ever because big numbers. Retards.
Anonymous (ID: un27d2tb) Spain No.514018085 >>514018211
>>513988322
Deflation is only bad for bank jews
Anonymous (ID: H4M+2nxn) United States No.514018127
>>513988845
>what's the downside?
Manufacturers stop manufacturing because their goods arent worth the cost of production.
Famine.
Anonymous (ID: HJEDfUSo) Italy No.514018207
There must be a whole squad of shills solely devoted to defend inflation in online arguments because all the usual retarded arguments show up out of nowhere each time.
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514018211 >>514018288 >>514018552
>>514018085
https://www.britannica.com/event/Great-Depression

Another nigger incapable of understanding β€œper capita”.
Anonymous (ID: un27d2tb) Spain No.514018288 >>514018336
>>514018211
>nigger that thinks gdp numbers are meaningful
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514018336 >>514018410
>>514018288
Nobody said anything about GDP, you economically illiterate monkey. Do you have the slightest CLUE what is the cause of the Great depression and what happened???? Otherwise just do everyone a favor and either shut the fuck up and read the link or fuck off and avoid further embarrassment.
Anonymous (ID: MYEdAdDZ) New Zealand No.514018342 >>514018404 >>514018516
>>514018036
a similar thing happened a year or two ago with eletric cars, competition was so fierce companies sold at a loss. What happened is a few of those companies went out of business, and the market stabilized. Meanwhile the average person just enjoyed cheap cars. Now the average person is enjoying cheap food. Consumers win.
>Do you even know how bad of a price war this thing was?
Seems pretty great. It is what lolbertarians said would happen if the free market had its way
Anonymous (ID: 4G4Q9Lsa) United States No.514018390
>>513988322
>Migatards elected orangetard because high prices
>prices going down in other country means they're losing

Imagine the copium you have to inhale.
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514018404 >>514018439
>>514018342
>a bunch of generic nonsense

I don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. But if you’re talking about BYD, the electric car manufacturer state owned company, they’re going through their own Evergrande scandal, which if you’re not familiar with it, you can ask your β€œchinese friends” to explain it to you.
Anonymous (ID: un27d2tb) Spain No.514018410 >>514018479
>>514018336
>brings up per capita
>nobody said anything about GDP
>links great depression and thinks all deflation are equal and correlation implies causation
You and (((economists))) know nothing about how real economy works
Anonymous (ID: MYEdAdDZ) New Zealand No.514018439 >>514018529
>>514018404
BYD is the one known outside, but inside China there were dozens of eletric car companies producing their own models. This competition drove prices down, and made a price war.
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514018479 >>514018576
>>514018410
So, the β€œper capita” is more of a joke towards monkeys not understanding nuanced concepts like β€œper capita” only a brain dead monkey would think deflation is good for anyone.

Also, do you know what the fuck it is? If you can’t explain, I get it but you should stop. It’s embarrassing.
Anonymous (ID: 4G4Q9Lsa) United States No.514018516
>>514018342
It's a well known fact amerilards are retarded. Which is why nobody listened to the lolberts, the only group that's actually for the fucking average people, and not the kike conglomerates that runs their government.
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514018529 >>514018904
>>514018439
And when the price war was done, most of them went bankrupt which caused more unemployment which caused less people to have disposable income to spend and further exacerbating an already broken economy.
Anonymous (ID: qFhTmEZC) No.514018552 >>514018658
>>514018211
>https://www.britannica.com/event/Great-Depression
your article blamed tariff and defend jewish banking, i think you're a jew.
Anonymous (ID: un27d2tb) Spain No.514018576 >>514018678
>>514018479
>I-I was just pretending!
You clearly don't know deflation during the great depression is totally different from the deflation happening in China due to more efficient production thanks to tech advances and automaton
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514018658
>>514018552
LMAO. Uh what? Did nobody ever go through any kind of economics education?????
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514018678 >>514018718
>>514018576
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ok, that’s great. Monkey brain.
Anonymous (ID: un27d2tb) Spain No.514018718 >>514018759
>>514018678
I accept your concession, kike slave
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514018759 >>514018888
>>514018718
Yeah I’ll take β€œkike slave β€œ over
>muh deflation and depression is totally different china is just le strong

LMAO. God, this is great. It’s like talking with niggers again.
Anonymous (ID: XPGLR3jn) Spain No.514018878
>delfations is le bad
>inflation should be at 3% every year
>infinite growth
>useless inmigrants actually boost the gdp
>illegals already pay taxes by consuming
Most more dogmas of jewish economics
Anonymous (ID: 1UlBckOm) United States No.514018888
>we have to print money forever and price wageslaves out of housing and food or else uh great depression

do mutts really
the great depression happened because you had unproductive speculative credit that got totally insane.
like 50 times leverage to borrow to play the stock market. leverage that wasn't producing anything that then collapsed
japan did it too because they're kike ruled and then they had a bust that lasted for 3 decades

>>514018759
lol mutt thinks he isn't a nigger
Anonymous (ID: MYEdAdDZ) New Zealand No.514018904 >>514018979
>>514018529
>most of them went bankrupt
means the better run ones with better products survived and will expand, hiring more people. Seems based. The best companies survive, not monopolies
>which caused less people to have disposable income
The surviving companies will expand and hire more workers. But people end up with more disposable income, because products are cheaper.
Anonymous (ID: JtJW8HAn) United States No.514018929
>>513988054 (OP)
>Not commit suicide
>Win
Modern s()yciety standards, everyone.
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514018979 >>514019033 >>514027369
>>514018904
> The surviving companies will expand and hire more workers. But people end up with more disposable income, because products are cheaper.

How are they gonna have more disposable income without a job? How are surviving companies gonna expand when people are spending less?
Anonymous (ID: MYEdAdDZ) New Zealand No.514019033 >>514019127 >>514019170
>>514018979
workers for those car companies are like 0.01% of Chinese work force, irrelevant. But most Chinese do have a car, so cheaper cars gives more disposable income to the average person. Seems great. Also the surviving companies end up expanding, hiring more people.
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514019127 >>514019170 >>514021129
>>514019033
Yeah? Is that what happened in Detroit when they started losing all their factories? The remaining companies expanded and things became cheaper and it became a utopia?
Anonymous (ID: uxi0U6i+) United States No.514019146
>>513988054 (OP)
100 percent believable 1 post memeflaggot.

>>513989108
wtf did Donald Trump really just say that?
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514019170
>>514019033
>>514019127
For context, Deteoit is a place in the US that went completely bankrupt shortly after losing all jobs and, consequently, income.
Anonymous (ID: UnYg9OMh) United Kingdom No.514019187 >>514019797
>>513988845
People wait to buy as prices fall, money stops changing hands and people lose their jobs. See how Japan has faired since deflation started.
Anonymous (ID: TPW4Zvvx) United States No.514019199
>>513988403
Imagine being such a Jew golem
Anonymous (ID: lnp87Hwy) Greece No.514019238
>>513988403
>>513988322
>Having higher purchasing power=worse

Only if you're a landowning parasitic Jew
Anonymous (ID: VgbQgjAJ) Italy No.514019254
>>513988322
Deflation is the cope westoids use to describe that lower consumer prices
Anonymous (ID: 1UlBckOm) United States No.514019364
I think we're like 10 15 years away from mutts having a mao inspired landlord purge

Trump's pretty much doing all the other policies in the commie playbook. miggers will eat it up no problem.
They'll run out of stockpiled goods in about 2-3 months and the prices have to go up and Trump will go blah blah price gouging corporations just like sanders.
Anonymous (ID: Yn18B9kL) United States No.514019406 >>514019601 >>514019848
>>513988054 (OP)
That is not what most Chinese people are experiencing right now.
But whatever..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUPDdEEK5d4

Things are not good for young people in china.
Hell its not good for a lot of people..
Anonymous (ID: 57eiCZb2) United States No.514019599
>>513989108
He is a complete faggot and a kike slave tho like more than anyone on the planet.
Anonymous (ID: 1UlBckOm) United States No.514019601
>>514019406
Are you supposed to give them fake email jobs?
Everything is super automated in China go take a look.

The chris chappell guy's show is produced by NTDTV which is falun gong and I don't have a problem with them. Think their job is to lull the mutts into thinking China is collapsing all the time.
Anonymous (ID: iLji/cwM) United States No.514019717
>>513988054 (OP)
>Meanwhile westoids constantly complain about how expensive everything is.
Well retard your post was about china not western countries
Anonymous (ID: pGJqHo14) United States No.514019726
>>514006011
This. Let the mammon zog empire collapse. Aside Rationalism and family values will reign supreme. Whites elites are fucking pathetic huffing their own farts for so long. Hard to exhale with Jewish banker cock and cum flooding every orifice
Anonymous (ID: un27d2tb) Spain No.514019797 >>514027042
>>514019187
You will stop eating today because tomorrow it will be cheaper?
You need a new TV/smartphone right now and you will wait for the next year to buy it, because it will definitely be cheaper for the same specs?
Chinese deflation is caused by over supply, not lack of demand
Chinese takeout companies are burning their own capital to lower prices and gain marketshare, benefiting customers in the process. Uber and groupon got kicked out of China by Didi and meituan because of these price wars
Anonymous (ID: 1UlBckOm) United States No.514019801 >>514019873
>>514006011
>nobody is going into payment plan debt for a $45 crunch wrap supreme combo
Wrong!
Anonymous (ID: un27d2tb) Spain No.514019848
>>514019406
This is also happening in the west with the younger generations if you don't count daycare jobs
Anonymous (ID: iLji/cwM) United States No.514019873 >>514020128
>>514019801
>Klarna
I've never heard of one person ever actually using this, do you believe everything you see in a yahoo news article?
Anonymous (ID: un27d2tb) Spain No.514019923
>>514006011
>we had to replace the goyim with brownoids because nobody is going into payment plan debt for a $45 crunch wrap supreme combo
Anonymous (ID: GzKHdX20) United States No.514019953
>>513990744
because theyre spics that think inflation means equity to make them finally the same height as chad instead of the midget retards they are, why every spic country is an economic failure if it weren't for drugs and why they constantly want to act like they need to be welcomed in economically sound societies
Anonymous (ID: J4Thp5S2) Ireland No.514019960
>>513988845
Working class people can now afford to buy more stuff on the same salary. Shareholders, traders, and investors whose entire MO is to generate income whilst performing no tangible work whatsoever get fucked in the ass. Ultimately, everyone gets what they rightfully deserve.
Anonymous (ID: 1UlBckOm) United States No.514020128
>>514019873
you're right the chinese planted the article to badmouth glorious USA
Anonymous (ID: rXRUT646) Australia No.514020183
>>513988403
>he can't answer the "bad for who?" replies
Anonymous (ID: Tp3F4b8v) Poland No.514020193 >>514020315
>>513993167
>At that time, everyone in Germany worked. Hitler even had the unemployed forcibly recruited
Lol at retard who never tastes socialism of this kind.
This "productivity" was so shit that before the war Hitler almost bancrupted Germany. He had to go to war to keep this "productivity" going.
This forcible work was also the downfall of USSR and commie states. You cannot force people to do work they do not want to do and expect this work to be done well. And add payment to it when you have more people than jobs but you force unemployed to do anything. You end up ruining your economy.
Anonymous (ID: 1UlBckOm) United States No.514020215
mutt logic goes like this
>The US is great
>that means we can't do anything wrong
>China is bad and evul
>everything China does is wrong
>I will now go into debt to buy a burrito shekelsteinberg says it raises GDP anyways so this is perfectly fine
>I hecking love inflation
Anonymous (ID: ilyNFbVa) United States No.514020262
>>513988054 (OP)
>designer bags
Huh? Those likely cost nothing to produce to begin with, it's just selling the brand name.
Anonymous (ID: 1UlBckOm) United States No.514020315 >>514020693 >>514027189
>>514020193
>You cannot force people to do work they do not want to do and expect this work to be done well.
wrong. US wants manufacturing back and the only way to get it back is to make people poor again poor enough to take on the backbreaking and dangerous jobs that were once shipped overseas.
You absolutely can force people to work you just have to make them poor and desperate first. Tariffs are a start.
Anonymous (ID: Tp3F4b8v) Poland No.514020693 >>514020835
>>514020315
US mutt agai nshowing how fucking uneducated you all retards are.
I was strictly talking about forced work which was dominant in USSR. People would go to jail if they were unemployed for too long. And there were no jobs on the market. So state created bullshit jobs to get these unemployed working and paid them. They were basically paid for doing nothing or doing shit job.

You on the other hand talk about making people poor to force them to work or starve. Which is completely different scenario. But as Adam Smith wrote in Wealth of Nations - this kind of ideas are also bad for economy as hungry and mad worker is not a good worker. Historically it ends up in riots and raise of commie ideas.
Anonymous (ID: US0udBGZ) United States No.514020822 >>514022529
>>513989302
>Yeah but like most people have 30 year mortgages and shit to pay so if deflation hits they're screwed.
In..... China?
Anonymous (ID: 1UlBckOm) United States No.514020835 >>514020959
>>514020693
oh adam smith is the go to guy for advice in the AI robotics automation era isn't he?
kys lmao

they used to send unemployed males to get blown up as cannon fodder. europe is famous for doing that and having a shitload of wars. retard
Anonymous (ID: Tp3F4b8v) Poland No.514020959
>>514020835
Yes the guy living in 18th century and his ideas had more to tell about AI and automation ridden economy that retard like you who wants to make people purposefully poor in AI and automation economy XD
And your second idea is just to kill off population.
(((you))) smell like a jew.
Anonymous (ID: MYEdAdDZ) New Zealand No.514021129 >>514022055
>>514019127
That is because the car industry got exported overseas. China has no danger of that happening. Things are getting cheaper to produce in China, not more expensive
Anonymous (ID: SWeER31Q) United States No.514022055 >>514022304
>>514021129
Except that China NEEDS them to go overseas. How do you think companies like Temu and wish exploded? chinese people? You think Chinese people need factory surplus shit? Because that’s what they got. Businesses and business owners by and large have made a BUSINESS model of exporting products. And tariffs have effectively crippled them.
Anonymous (ID: SAH8CmK+) Canada No.514022173 >>514022376 >>514024859
>>513989015
Deflation is worst for the borrower who has shrinking value for his work, a shrinking value for his car and his house and his stock portfolio but his debt remains the same. The interest rates tend to fall though but still the the overall debt remains with less resources for the borrower to repay it. Thus bankruptcies tend to rise. Foreclosures. This in turn tends to cause the deflation to get even more severe as there's lots of costly properties, real estate, vehicles, factories that are now on the market causing the supply demand graph to slide to diminishing demand and ballooning supply.
Anonymous (ID: SAH8CmK+) Canada No.514022304
>>514022055

You know even during the time of the Roman Republic and then the Roman Empire, if Chinese goods for some reason or other weren't able to find a way to access the Mediterranean market for its manufactured goods, they'd be thrown into an economic depression. I'm pretty sure a similar phenomena is more than possible now only including the American market.
Anonymous (ID: eGBg5xC+) No.514022376 >>514023125
>>514022173
so what you're saying is if we didn't have a society based entirely on debt deflation would be fine?
Anonymous (ID: qcCUkvjP) Germany No.514022488 >>514023130
>>513988054 (OP)
>deflation leads to free food
why are we printing money again?
Anonymous (ID: SAH8CmK+) Canada No.514022529 >>514023306
>>514020822
>In..... China?

China is double fucked because the Chinese vastly overinvested , fuck built an immense real estate bubble that's imploding right now with international consequences. Think of all those ghost cities they built so that yellow insects could sock their money in to concrete apartment towers with corncob insulation and rubber rebar and crumbling shit concrete. What a fucking mess. It's going to be fun to see how long all their freeways and high speed trains last before that shit falls apart. Ditto their craptastic cars.

Their huge navy is another area for some amusing investigations too. I wonder how stinky filthy those steel tubs become within the first year of use with rotten food and overflowing heads?
Anonymous (ID: WCk22BWo) United States No.514022553
>>513988845
No growth no jobs, but its inevitable after periods of long inflation from what I'm told. US deflation currently is a lot more painful and soul crushing.
Anonymous (ID: LrATlm/x) France No.514022802 >>514023675
>>513992635
The US too - for a long time they bought up all the excess milk and gave it to the poor as government cheese.
Anonymous (ID: SAH8CmK+) Canada No.514023125
>>514022376
But we do have a society based on debt. Of course there's other solutions; how about corporate ledger book economies....like the early USA...sharecropper economies. A bunch of courtiers and jew moneylenders in the City of London in the 16th and 17th centuries form corporations (what they called back then Commonwealths) traded on their primitive exchange or in some London coffee house. Then the corporation with landholdings in the colonies get people to sign contracts to clear their land and start growing crops. A certain percentage of the crop goes to the corporation. You don't even need startup money for your sharecropper farm. It's all debt on a ledger book. Here's your mule, your plow, your shovel, your saw your axe, some bags of flour and lard, some molasses from the west indies. Here's some rum. It's all debt agaisnt your next season's crops, if youre industrious and skillful enough to grow crops. You live in a shotgun shack. You do some hunting. But you're trapped in a monopoly. No other entrepreneurs can open competing shops. You're trapped in the economy of the corporation or commonwealth that owns your land. If you leave your land to go fight the King's mercenary Hessians because they're billeted oin your home and they're eating all your food, drinking all your booze and fucking your wife, your daughter and maybe even your son then you're not working your land and providing the corporation with their share of your crops to pay off the shit they gave you that's on their ledger book.

BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MONEY. There was no money circulating in that economy. The first attempts to create a paper script money by the Revolutionary Govt was a disasters. Total inflation to the point where you might as well wipe your ass with your money. Same thing with the French Revolution. Assignats inflating to zero value = successive revolutions
Anonymous (ID: KtbSVIXM) Germany No.514023130
>>514022488
Because the people making that food don't get paid for it, either, while their managers are.
basically, companies have to masively cut prices so people can still afford their wares, and they make those price cuts possible by reducing wages even more. primarily on short-term contracts (where it's easy and legal to do) and long-term, low wage contracts (bcs they know that a guy who barely makes ends meet can't afford to go to court). Meanwhile, their managers are all on indefinite contracts, and have lawyers on speeddial, so they still get their full wages.
Fast deflation benefits the rich at the cost of everybody else, while inflation benefits the poor at the cost of the middle class (and doesn't influence the richt, as they've got their money in stocks and real estate).
Anonymous (ID: SAH8CmK+) Canada No.514023306
>>514022529
Of course the Americans are crazy too; they're still planning even more bigger aircraft carriers than the ones they already have and they're fucking useless. Worse than useless. They're steel coffins for 5000 sailors and aviators waiting for a big hypersonic missile or a nuke to send them crashing straight to the bottom of the sea with all hands lost in the depths. And the USA is bankrupt but no matter build more. It's sickening to contemplate the hell that awaits us all when the entire house of cards collapses.

Wanna jump on the NVidia train now? kek. When the AI bubble bursts, OMG...
Anonymous (ID: SAH8CmK+) Canada No.514023366
Remember; gold and silver aren't going up in value. The paper money that measures their valuation in your mind is just become more worthless with inflation, that's all.
Anonymous (ID: rslKTBeZ) Spain No.514023367
>US places tariffs on China
>People shit on Trump for flip flopping about tariff number
>still place a flat tariff on China
>It literally triggers a deflationary crisis in China
>Consumers in China won't spend their money at all and factories will start closing down

Now look how China will come back to suck Trump's cock just to avoid a big ass chink recession.
Anonymous (ID: SAH8CmK+) Canada No.514023675 >>514023918
>>514022802
>>excess milk production gubmint cheese

That's the nice outcome.
The bad outcome is when they just pour it down the sewer drains to keep the prices high while 7 million Americans starve to death in the great depression.
Oranges too. Dig a big pit and soak them with gasoline and set fire to them.

>>β€œThe works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

My parents were hard luck depression kids. i heard it all. Also a little known fact. For farmers in the West, the Depression didn't start with the stock market crash of 1929. It started in 1920.
At that time 80% of the population in N. America was rural so they had 20 years of depression.
Anonymous (ID: 5Z8dj1l3) Australia No.514023918
>>514023675
American faggots will post a picture of an empty grocery store in the 1990s and won't mention the great depression
Anonymous (ID: SAH8CmK+) Canada No.514023958
The bankruptcy of great nations leads to bloody violent revolution and then massive wars.

The USA and by extension all the nations in the Western world are bankrupt.
Anonymous (ID: SAH8CmK+) Canada No.514024142
There's something else that's going to happen when the entire bubble bursts and the massive economic earthquake of the bankruptcy of nations hits.
We look at the WWII generation and their cheerful right wing pride. That was the result of the USA and Canada getting rich off the war. Those incredible 50's, god how great was that. But those same people became rabid communists during the depression. When the real shit hits on this $37 trillion debt we will be under grave threat of a bolshevik revolution that will make the summer of 2020 looks like a picnic in the park.
Anonymous (ID: CCoej1sB) Germany No.514024213
>>513988054 (OP)
>Meanwhile westoids constantly complain about how expensive everything is.
no mutts complain. they are pampered spoiled children and their nations wealth is closing in on the worlds baseline. their bitching is already insufferable and worse than that of a begging middle eastern nation, albeit at times entertaining. It cant hit a better nation and I pray their children suffer under the coming sanctions the same way they made the rest of the world suffer.
Anonymous (ID: SAH8CmK+) Canada No.514024514
I think this is why they're bringing in all these foreigners legally or illegally that are 80-90% military aged men. They know that American white men are unlikely to gun down their fellow citizens when the SHTF comes. But look at LAPD now; all the new cops are beaners. It's the same with the Sikhs in Canada. Imagine waking up and realizing the police and the army are all some kind of muslim/hindu/sikh/sainte muerte psychos with guns that would love nothign better than to butcher us in the streets when we protest that theres no food that we can possibly afford that children are starvign to death. Hell the hindus would probably love to make a fine feast of roast meat out of your kids...
Anonymous (ID: QHVB4WZK) United States No.514024628
>>513988322
We actually need deflation. No I don't care if Billy Boomer and the banks eat shit, the cost of living is beyond the pale.
Anonymous (ID: XUpsFBtd) United States No.514024684
>>513988054 (OP)
China's Debt to GDP hit 350% last week
China is so fucked even the CCP want Xi's head on a platter. There is no way hide the collapse of China any longer.
Anonymous (ID: QHVB4WZK) United States No.514024754
>>513989108
We're already too poor to afford a studio rental, and jobs are fake and gay. The "economy" only applies to insanely wealthy investors. I can only hope you and your kind get to taste life at the bottom, you make this mess.
Anonymous (ID: 05MITxPU) No.514024779
>>513988322
honest question: could you actually make deflation a flex?
Anonymous (ID: VgMZRfaY) Japan No.514024787 >>514027017
>>513988054 (OP)
this will translate to losing in the long-term. japan has this same "cheap = good" mentality and it's tanking the quality of fucking everything.

china having a very materialistic culture is actually good since it promotes an "expensive = good" mindset and it's how they minmaxxed their economy so even middle class people can afford bigger apartments and things like food delivery and consumer culture in the first place

once the secondary effects of price wars kick in and the already bad quality of chinese goods and housing goes to shit it will undo all the positive things china has done for their people(largely before Xi took over when they were trying to emulate western capitalist countries)

either way thats the end result of socialism
Anonymous (ID: HvNkbPOL) United States No.514024859
>>514022173
Inflation causes the value of the dollar to shrink
Anonymous (ID: 6GFY/IXM) Poland No.514024923
>>513988403
The Jews brainwashed you, mutts
Anonymous (ID: dK3aD8J6) United States No.514025144 >>514027771
>>513988322
>Output falls
>Prices fall
>Workers get more money
>but investing is worth less than normal.

Oh my child, soon you shall wish it is only this.
Anonymous (ID: wkQEApje) No.514025919
>>513988054 (OP)
yuan deflation is a complete nightmare for the CCP
China's entire economy is predicated on exports, export prices remain competitive because of low wages
shits fucked lol
comet incoming
mandate of heaven lost
Anonymous (ID: QjSjouA+) Philippines No.514026584
>>513988054 (OP)
these companies are spending BILLIONS of yuan to make these discounts possible
stagnant capital is being put into the economy again.
deflation is the easiest fucking thing for capitalism to self regulate.
china wins in communism, wins even in capitalism.
they JUST KEEP WINNING
and to think this all started because one company fought for the rights of underpaid delivery workers
Anonymous (ID: cOX15Zxk) No.514026891
choose :
>based OG china that was an empire for thousands of years minding its own bussiness vs
>the west that had a lucky stroke whit industrialization and used it agaisnt everyone and will propably never do it again
Anonymous (ID: HnZYXnC1) France No.514027017
>>514024787
the difference is that in China, deflation is brought by competition and technological progress.
You know, the entire point of capitalism.
Anonymous (ID: wkQEApje) No.514027042
>>514019797
and what will Didi and meituan do when chinks begin cooking at home again because it's so much cheaper?
it happened in Japan, you know.
Anonymous (ID: cOX15Zxk) No.514027179
just give up americans , let china have taiwan , trust me they are very peacefull peaple , much peacefull the the US , but of course you cant accept that, you have to force everyone to be gay or femenist , fucking westerners
Anonymous (ID: JtJW8HAn) United States No.514027189
>>514020315
An item I bought less than a year ago costs 2/3rds more now.
MIGAtards say inflation and tariffs aren't real.
They're more delusional than Looney Troons.
They can be the slaves since they hate browns doing it so badly.
Anonymous (ID: z5GSsQYW) Indonesia No.514027369 >>514027445
>>514018979
holy shit nigger just take the L and move on with your day
relationship expert (ID: ZF9Qdml1) United States No.514027432
the US had deflationary currency during the first half of the 1800s
china is experiencing a similar boone
but much of china’s β€œprosperity” is synthetic
it’s like a potemkin village
Anonymous (ID: wkQEApje) No.514027445 >>514027535
>>514027369
he asked a reasonable question tho
Anonymous (ID: z5GSsQYW) Indonesia No.514027535
>>514027445
>memenigger
Anonymous (ID: Bvrb0ont) United States No.514027612
>This is why deflation is a good thing!
Okay commie, why don't you live in China?
Anonymous (ID: Bvrb0ont) United States No.514027771
>>514025144
>Workers get more money
considering many Chinese haven't been paid in years this seems unlikely.
Anonymous (ID: O6M1AIOV) No.514027913
>>513988054 (OP)
China doesn't do nothing, they just don't let Jews destroy them. Western nations were destroyed as soon as Jews controlled their money through their central bank schemes. After that any other aspect of Jewish subvertion in their nations was just another nail in their coffin.
Anonymous (ID: wKpJ+thx) United Kingdom No.514028070
>>513995966
shutup, weve known hyperflation since the 70s, any deflation is good it means a get high quality goods or a tenth of the price. brilliant really.

Only rich fags hate deflationary moves of the market, they stand to lose well 10 thirds of they greed.