Thread 514001452

Why is it illegal to pan for gold without a license ? And why is fort knox (with its absence of the precious metal), still revered. Would it not be dependent on gold panners across the world ?.

nigga you literally life on an prison island and asking those questions
Australia is like Gothic 1 but with sun cancer and spiders

>>514001452 (OP)
>illegal to pan for gold without a license
Kek do Commonwealth countries really?

>>514001672
that's pretty insane

>>514001452 (OP)
>executive order 6102
This was an executive order by president roosevelt.
>Rationale. The stated reason for the order was that hard times had caused "hoarding" of gold, stalling economic growth and worsening the depression inasmuch as the US was then using the gold standard for its currency.

>>514001924
holy shit, did not know.

>>514001924
What is the gold standard exactly?

>>514001672
You're allowed to pan for gold on public property within and classifier but must obtain the owners permission to pan for gold on private property which seems completely reasonable to me

>>514002034
When a house cost 5k

>>514002034
It was when a US dollar was tied to a specific amount of redeemable gold.

>>514002186
But for the decades when that executive order was in effect, you couldn't redeem dollars for gold, you couldn't even own any gold, yet the gold standard, whatever that is, was still considered to be in effect. Why is that?

>>514002297
You could still keep gold for numismatic purposes but ultimately the answer to your question is: you you zogged, that's why

Kind of like how Americans think they have free speech today but will get deported for criticism of Israel

>>514002526
That's not an answer at all. Do you have an actual answer?
I know it's a tough question so I don't blame you if you don't have one, but don't try to fool me or yourself by avoiding it.

>>514002707
Sorry you don't like the answer but that's the facts, the kikes wanted to increase the money supply but couldn't do so because of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 requiring 40% of the issued money to be held as gold. Eventually all pretenses of actual money were dropped and led to full fiat fractional reserve banking, again you got zogged. Ron Paul explained this Ad Naseum through his career

>>514001452 (OP)
It's not illegal to go panning without a license...

I can go up the road and do that right now.

>>514002962
That's somewhat better but still doesn't answer the question.
I'll restate it so you're clear on what I'm asking:
If the gold standard is a state in which a person can exchange dollars for gold, then how is it that during a time when owning gold was illegal the gold standard was still in effect?

>>514001452 (OP)
>Why is it illegal to pan for gold without a license?
Oi, you cunt, that's the King's gold!

>>514002707
This video series will explain the entire thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU&list=PLE88E9ICdiphYjJkeeLL2O09eJoC8r7Dc&index=1

>>514001452 (OP)
>Illegal to prospect for gold
It's probably illegal for you to collect rain water too I guess

>>514003155
I'm not sure if you're being facetious and trying to lead me into some revelation you think you're going to inspire in me or if you're actually serious

It was de jure in effect, it was de facto not in effect.

>>514001924
>>514001994
That was in the U.S. and had precisely nothing to do with Australia, which is where OP is apparently from.

In the U.S. you can pan for gold all you want, as long as someone else doesn't own the mineral rights. Nowadays that means a few National Parks and maybe middle-of-nowhere Alaska.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/five-places-where-you-can-still-find-gold-in-the-united-states-180982063/

I remember driving around in northern Idaho maybe 25 years ago or so, and saw something weird chained in the middle of a river. It was someone's automated gold panning machine. The water flow caused some big screened cage to rotate, and flakes of gold that had drifted in got panned out of the stream or something. Wish I still had those photos but fucking Seagate happened to them. Never, ever buy a Seagate drive, folks.

>>514003219
It's illegal to take a bald eagle feather you find in the United States of America, all countries have laws that sound retarded

>>514001452 (OP)
It’s not here
Probably because you guys are pussies

>>514003408
That doesn't make any sense. It wasn't the case that someone could theoretically redeem their dollars for gold and just couldn't in practice, as a matter of law, de jure, they couldn't do so.

>>514003438
its not seagate's fault you lost your data.

>>514003438
That was probably an a very nice sluice box

>>514002707
>>514002962
The gold standard persisted because international convertibility still applied, even though U.S. citizens couldn’t own gold, is the factual resolution. Basically the connected people printed endless money and converted it to gold in other nations.

>>514001452 (OP)
>Why is it illegal to pan for gold without a license
The most efficient way to prospect gold is to dump mercury into rivers.

>>514003570
It was still in effect, it just had executive
order overriding it

>>514001452 (OP)
only illegal here on private land, and who is gonna catch you anyway.

easier just to buy stock in gold companies instead too. all the river gold got panned 100 years ago.

>>514003715
>Basically the connected people printed endless money and converted it to gold in other nations.

As I said in my original reply, you got zogged, but thanks for putting into pleasant language, I don't have the patience for that shit anymore

>>514003155
Being on the gold standard simply means that the dollar's value is equal to a fixed amount of gold. It may have been illegal to own gold but theoretically each dollar in circulation was still backed by an equivalent amount of gold in the treasury vaults.

>>514001452 (OP)
>Why is it illegal to pan for gold without a license ?
Because natural resources belong to the state. You'd be stealing from the state if you started extracting gold or other resources (wood, fish, minerals, etc) without a licence or other authorization.

We COULD be lawless shitholes like America where people can straight up loot the land for whatever it's worth. But, luckily, our countries and systems of governance are actually civilised. Now watch trumpanzee MIGAts seethe

>>514001452 (OP)
the fuck you're on about dumb retard, in Australia it's literally legal to go pick nuggets from the surface and you don't even need any permit unless you plan to excavate or process large chunks of land, and even then you just stake your claim. I wish laws here were like that in Australia regarding gold. here I'll get jailed for collecting black sand to take it home for processing and will get shot and then jailed if I get caught processing it on site

>>514004411
Have sex incel

>>514004411
>Now watch trumpanzee MIGAts seethe
kek'd

>>514001561
And drop bears instead of cute goblins.
Fun fact Scavenger was modeled after the Australian cassowary

>>514003523
that has to do with native americans, not because the bald eagle is the US mascot

>>514008068
I know. The reasoning behind it doesn't make it any less retarded, in fact in this specific instance it makes it more retarded

>>514001452 (OP)
Reminded me of pic related

>>514001452 (OP)
Because fractional banking and investors are ripping people off and they don't want people to have an alternative to trade with.

>>514003438
There is also the prospectors license which is a hold out from the wild west days to prevent you from getting fucked from any claims and deposists you discover.

>>514008912
evil things they are. good for a bad hangover/alcohol withdrawal though.

>>514001452 (OP)
Probably because it can fuck with ecosystems. Hokkaido got fucked up during their gold rush. I’m sure California did too. Rivers ruined for quite some time.

>>514001452 (OP)
oyveyyyy
stop asking questions or you will have a knock on your door!

>>514001561
fpbp

>>514001561
Did you play the remake ?

>>514001452 (OP)
Just wear it as a hat on your way to the destination and conduct sand mafia activities on the side

>>514003730
It's fucked up your telling the truth

>>514010823
Indians destroy rivers too, yet the government wants to pan for butter chicken vindaloo like it's the 19-fucking-50s

>>514001452 (OP)
>Why is it illegal to pan for gold without a license?

Because if it wasnt, every chink and jeet within 1 million miles would destroy every creek and river in existence trying to pan for gold.

>>514002297
>>514002034
it meant the USD was at least pegged to $35 an ounce as a fixed price, which means in theory inflation is impossible, since $35 are $35.
In reality, nobody counts M1 (real money amount) physically. So the sneaky jews DID print money. The bluff got called around 1971, which forced Nixon to cancel the standard, because other countries COULD absolutely redeem some gold for $35, and the US was on a spending spree, so the gold left.

Gold has a max price because it's literally everywhere in everything.

There's sand at home depot with gold specs in it, and if gold went to 100k an oz they would process that shit.
Every meth head could make high 6 figures panning and smoking meth a couple months in the summer.

The real future currency is bitcoin because it's mined on silicon powered by the most efficient powerplants on the planet.
So instead of having retard gold rush shit we will be building powerplants and then the cities and factories around them.

Gold is for stupid boomers, bitcoin is the future.

>>514014451
>we'll be building powerplants
so Oil and LNG stay King? Sure Nuclear is superior, but also a very dangerous strategic risk in a war scenario, Ukraine hammered that shit into the mind of planners again.

>>514014451
how do you account for the price of bitcoin when fusion energy finally arrives btw?
I always hear the Anti-Silver shills goof on about asteroid mining, just curious.
Guess it'll be the old cope of "b-but it's limited because it's designed that way!"

>>514001452 (OP)
it's 'legal' up to a certain amount where its considered not a hobby and technically the gov owns everything under 2m or something, but im gonna let you on on a little secret op.... put your reading glasses on and come on in here close to the screen.... if you find something... you just dont fucking tell anyone

>>514014451

It is crazy that so much of the energy on earth is currently be used to do pointless math to generate crypto.
Crypto mining and data centers currently account for 2% of global electricity use, and crypto is about half of it.
1% of all electricity to solve pointless math equations contributing to no knowledge.

A modern data center uses 1/3 the power of an entire city.

Because actually serious panners cut the fuck out of creek banks.

>>514014975

Yeah small scale gold mining is intensely destructive for very limited gain. I have seen some operations.
They basicly destroy an entire river or stream killing all the animals with choking sediment spending weeks blasting all the flood resistant banks and terrain into soft mud the next storm is no longer held back by.
In the end they typically make a few thousand a week with multiple people and equipment costs that average out to minimum wage for the hours spent.

>>514001672
Go try gold panning without explicit permission and see what happens anon.

>>514014451
>The real future currency is bitcoin
Imagine saying this just as it's becoming clear and apparent that compute will be far more valuable to sell than mining your gay ass shitcoins.

>>514014975
yeah i hobby fossick and i see this all the time, treck into a hidden stretch of waterway and entire banks are just completely obliterated, the damage you can do with a portable pressure pump is insane, depressing cos it absolutely destroys platypus habitat and once you strip it down to rock it starts cascading erosion,

thats why we have asinine laws and restrictions... because without them theres always fuckwits who literally will and have in the past turned areas into moonscape

>>514008912
Crazy how hooking someone into shit just to trick them out into being an atm is a crazy culture this society is trash

>>514001452 (OP)
Well I do not know the law in Australia, here in Germany. the thing is we are 200 Years after wild west and have other priorities and know what gold or other digging could do to the land that is not owned by the guy who want to dig. Like land erosion use of toxic stuff that could make water unusable. The Licence is not only to take money from someone who want to dig but also that he have the know about what he can and cannot do.
In reality, you just buy the licence and make an LLC (Germeny would be a GmbH) as the owner, so you can make the max of it with minimal costs if there is no extra clause in the licence like you need to give away x % of your profit to some organisation as form of guarantee/insurance for environment hazard...

>>514001672
In America they don't just fine or gaol you, they shoot you dead if you go gold panning without permission from the government.

>>514015468
i'm from bendigo and the government has never stopped me from mining public land without a licence.
>platypus
fucking delicious. the elite don't want you to know this, but platypussies from the creek are free. you can take them home.

>>514002297
stop asking such anti semitic questions.

>>514001452 (OP)
FUCK AMERICA, THAT'S WHAT. WE HAVE TO PAY TAXES IF WE LEAVE THE COUNTRY THIS GAY SLAVE STATE CAN FUCKING OFF ITSELF FOR ALL I CARE

"finegold" (or misspelled as "feingold") is a common jewish name because as parasites, they dont produce anything but sell commodities at inflated prices. in the precious metals markets, jews dominate and define valuation trends to suit their investment portfolio

>>514002034
its when jews who've been accumulating gold for millenia have the freedom to buy your whole country

>>514015355
Well, most people don't go gold panning on property they own.
If it's federal land, you surely need a license.

Not sure but my guess is jews?