Thread 514004370

Has Argentina changed for good under his leadership ?

Yes they support Israel much more now

>>514004370 (OP)
All Argie users were replaced with shills from USA, Chile and Brazil.

>>514004370 (OP)
The economy there is doing "better" as far as inflation, but Milei seems to be selling out infrastructure to foreign investors (mostly Israeli).

I was there last month and I don't see how people can survive. They get paid an average of $340/month but even a basic U.S.-tier fast-food meal costs $17 for what I'd pay $14 for in the U.S. Even shopping at grocery stores was relatively expensive; I bought some eggs 'cause I wanted some breakfast, and IIRC it worked out to fifty cents per egg, whereas in the U.S. right now I would pay about twenty-five cents per egg.

Also, while I was there, the legislature and Milei passed/signed a law changing how doctors at public hospitals are paid, which they are all bitching about. It will probably destroy the public healthcare system and force everyone to go private, which in a way is good, except that during the transition most people aren't going to be able to afford medical care.

The nurses were already pissed off and had banners flying from their hospitals complaining about wages.

I've read, here and elsewhere, that Milei has strong support in most of the country, but I didn't see that in Buenos Aires. Instead I saw demonstrations against him and a lot of flyers, banners, protests, and graffiti claiming that Cristina Kirchner (former president from a few years ago) is being "persecuted".

I found it somewhat interesting that Argentine hotels all seemed to have full kitchenettes and plates/utensils in them. Literally every place I stayed had these. I've never seen that at a hotel in the U.S. I would guess this is because people can't afford to eat out at restaurants so hotels cater to people who still need to travel but need to scrimp on everything past the hotel room.

BTW, a typical restaurant bill worked out to around $35 to $40 for a normal midrange restaurant. They were almost all excellent quality, but that's 10% of a typical monthly wage, so not something that most of them can do.

>>514004370 (OP)
>>514007164 (cont'd)
Anyway, I really have no idea if the economy is actually improving or not. It certainly doesn't seem to be good for the average person, but then again, I only hung out in Buenos Aires, which as the center of government is going to have a lot of pissed-off former government employees who hate Milei for firing them (even though they needed to be fired).

>>514004370 (OP)
Didnt they sell the water supply to israels mekarot

>>514004370 (OP)
Why is he openly fucking his sister and no one cares?

>>514007164
>>514007246
Oh, one last thing, it looks like inflation is still running about 7.5% per month. Much better than it used to be, but still insanely high. If I go back a year from now, the 10,000 peso note that I still have left will have less than half of the purchasing power it did when I did the currency exchange (about $8.62) -- even after just two months it's only worth $7.35.

>>514007164
So he's the worthless Trump of South America?

>>514007164
It's so bizarre, I don't understand how life goes on there.
You read and see so much about how Argentinians eat out all the time, their cafes and restaurants always look packed in photos, literally how? Is there just a massive wealth inequality where there are two classes of people, some being dirt poor and the others barely even worrying about money?

>>514007405
He's not. He does seem to be weirdly obsessed with his dogs (which are clones of one that died), though.

One of the odder things about BA is how many dogs people have. And there's dogshit all over the sidewalks. I managed to avoid stepping in any for almost a month, but got nailed one night in a low-light stretch of sidewalk.

I do have to hand it to them, though, they banned pitbulls and seem to take it seriously. I only saw one shitbull the entire time I was there and it had a heavy-duty wire muzzle strapped over its jaws.

>>514007531
He sent all their gold to Tel Aviv/

>>514004460
>argentines literally have to pay jews for water now
Look it up, Jews and Israel now own the rights to sell the natural resources/water in Argentina lmao
>be Argentine
>have to pay jews and Israel to breathe air

>>514007405
It's cute and wholesome:3

>>514007405
>just jew things teehee

>>514007601
>You read and see so much about how Argentinians eat out all the time, their cafes and restaurants always look packed in photos, literally how?
Most of the restaurants seemed pretty empty the entire time I was there. I only had trouble getting in to one place, and it was "mentioned in Michelin" and was always packed. Funny thing is, it was the second-worst restaurant I went to in the entire time I was there (and if you adjust for pricing, it was the worst).

>Is there just a massive wealth inequality where there are two classes of people, some being dirt poor and the others barely even worrying about money?
I think that's part of it, but I only saw a few high-end new cars the entire time I was there (one Audi that has only been out recently, one Porsche SUV). Most people seem to drive the same styles of bottom-tier compact almost-falling-apart cars, just a very few varieties (IIRC Renault and Nissan) and they were all really similar in appearance. So, I don't think there are a LOT of these high-net-worth types, and/or they're trying very hard not to show their wealth in visible forms.

I think if there economy got much worse there would be an increase in Argentinian camgirls but there hasn't been one.

>>514004370 (OP)
It's obviously doing better, but it's not like it could've gone any worse... Basically any modern right-wing politician could've fixed Argentina — even Trump.

>>514007164
Privatizing everything fucking sucks, I get the basic idea if a shit government has had it for years and done nothing because corruption. But once it's privatized it very quickly rorts citizens as much as possible.

We did it in Australia with roads, we pay taxes to build roads, then they're sold off and then we have to pay tolls to drive on them. Our fossil fuel companies pay little to no taxes, we're getting raped.
Look at the UK with their trains, I wont quote you their prices because you wouldn't believe it. Private companies formed price cartels.

>>514004370 (OP)
When you're at the bottom, the only way to go is up

>>514007942
Overseas cars markets can be pretty different to America, they're just more expensive overall and there's different cultures around them, New Zealanders for example are famous for driving absolute shitboxes right down to their expiry even amongst those with the money for something better. Argentines might be more worried about ostentatious displays of wealth because it makes them a target for theft for example.
But yeah very interesting. I just have this impression of Argentina being all about eating out at cafes all the time but maybe too much of the population has been priced out of that now.

>>514004370 (OP)
Kek, he robbed the people through currency devaluation, he basicly exists to subsidize the failing USD.

>>514004370 (OP)
Where is the Argentinian gold that vanished after he got elected?

>>514004460
This. They are literally selling the country to Israeli Jews
The “libertarian right” and the liberal left woke in tandem. One ruins public services with corruption and infinate browns while the other privatizes them so they become inaccessible to citizens

>>514008672
This is insane
>argentinians have to pay jews for their own natural resources
This is like some parody shit
>everything for Israel!

>>514007164
Jewish parasitim at its finest.
That's what kike leeches do.
> Devalue currency
> Destroy public sector
> Sell state assets to foreigners

>>514008672
>https://twitter.com/Voceria_Ar/status/1946229585130967275
>is rael
WTF. They are also selling all the gold and silver mines to the most stereotypical kike I've seen.

>>514007459
Really sad to see. It seems akin to slavery. But in reality how much comes from people being tarded?

>>514007610
How can they afford dogs with such crap economics?

>>514004370 (OP)
Yes and no, depending on how you look at it.
Milei does a lot of showmanship around what is essentially an austerity plan - that is his policy. Did he reduce the deficit, stop inflation spiral and brought the country on the path to recover? Yes. Is it good for an average Argentinian? Not in the sense that his quality of life directly benefits from it. It only prevents things from getting much worse.
To give you an equivalent this is something like restructuring a corporation to avoid bankruptcy. Entire departments get removed, excesses are curved, pay is slashed, but in the end the finances straighten and the company can recover. Now imagine this but on country scale.

Milei is a cautionary tale of anything at all. He's necessary only because of 3rd world gibs spiral and even the characterisation of his is tailored so he could be discarded on a whim if needed. People get angry at reduction of living standards? Ok mang you live in democracy vote him out. They vote him out and his replacement oh so forgets to revert the policies. The austerity goal is achieved while keep their faith in democracy.

>>514004370 (OP)
Everyone shut the fuck up about him and he's still president so he seems to have at least stabilized the situation.
If he were failing our Marxist media would be reporting on it daily.

>>514004370 (OP)
No, in fact, everything has gotten worse, and every day there's a new corruption scandal in his government. In addition to handing the country over to the Jews, which justifies me hating Israel.

>>514007724
>Noooo don't consult water management with the country that has the best water management on the planet they are jeeeeeeews

Why are you people like this?

>>514004370 (OP)
What's that, another Argentinian leader is failing? He better bring wanting the Falkland's back up to take their minds off it

>>514010517
Wasn't your president a jewess not so long ago?

>>514010213
Its exactly this.
He wasn't elected to heal the country. He was elected to stop the bleeding.

>>514010582
I hope all the Jews die, I hate you.

>>514010656
That is sort the litmus test for the health of the Argentine government isn't it.

>>514010697
I hope you die, specifically you.

>>514010672
I only know that all the Jews must be killed.

>>514010783
Will you kill yourself if it turns out you're part Jewish yourself?

>>514010775
I hope you all die so the world is a little better.

>>514009692
Is there some secret I don’t understand that makes it easier to understand reacting like that?

>>514010831
No, I don't have Slavic blood

>>514010839
Because you're a mouth breathing moron.

negros de mierda

>>514010213
what the fuck would you know about it?

>>514010866
I’m willing to work for you. I hate everyone around me.

>>514007459
>7.5% per month
Why lie tho?

>>514010931
How does that qualify you to work for me?

>>514010582
>let your most basic and strategic natural resource be owned and run by a foreign nation
>what’s the problem goy?


It’s moronic on so many levels I don’t think even the most retarded African countries do it

This is the kind of thing only a traitor would do

>>514010866
come back to Ukraine, stupid Slav

>>514004370 (OP)
>His rule
You mean his sister's rule

>>514011011
The notion that Israel can somehow own Argentina's water is a very retarded libel

>>514010921
Very interesting post.

>>514011050
Literally kill yourself you useless nigger

>>514011174
What country own Israel’s water system?

>>514011253
I wish it had been 20 million, damn rat

>>514007164
The country supports Milei. The leftists in the big city, Buenos Aires, of course don't. I think it's also the national capitol, so it will have the government bureaucrats.

Milei the Jew is doing a great job for the common people outside Buenos Aires.

>>514011566
Nobody supports him after so many corruption scandals.

>>514010672
No, that's our current president, who along with the old fart from the previous presidency are trying to turn Mexico into another Argentina by giving """free""" money and benefits to the low class at the expense of the middle class while companies leave the country one by one and the high class laugh at us from their houses in Spain.

>>514011260
Israel built it and owns it. They also built Gaza's water system but the Gazans sent it back one pipe section at a time.

Why is it always US flags supporting him?

>>514011626
He's only been in office a year or so after winning an election, how can he have a lot of corruption scandals already?

>>514011627
>another Argentina
Si fueras otra argentina viviras en paz y no en una guerra civil

>>514011698
They worship kikes

>>514011736
Leftists always make up shit so it's impssible to be sure if it's right.

>>514011627
Yee never mind, I thought Kirchner was Jewish

>>514004370 (OP)
Some guys hate him others think he's an idiot... And that's about what i learned from the news, msm or independent.

>>514011736
He is Jewish, corrupt by nature

>>514004370 (OP)
yep

gibs have been cut off by 80%
if things keep up argentina will finally be cleansed of argies

>>514011805
Yes they live in a fantasy world, in which things like communism actually work.

>>514011808
He had a German father, damn retarded.

>>514011869
So he won the election despite the antisemitic vote from people like you. Argentina is better than you.

>>514011937
>>514011805
There have already been 6 or 7 confirmed cases. What do you call that?

>mfw more morras argentinas iran pal norte
Full 100% support Milei

>>514012048
Anyone from the gov is in jail then?

>>514011970
Nobody knew I was Jewish, my country doesn't tolerate them.

>>514011937
I personally have no idea what's going on there. The guy seems unhinged but given the depth to which socialists had sunken Argentina, basically anything would have been an improvement. I'd like to see how things develop. There's no real reason as to why Argentina should be poor. They have all the ingredients to cook and I hope they get it together, except this one retard itt, I hope he fucking dies.

>>514011689
Holly based

>>514012128
>Nobody knew he was Jewish

>>514012118
If justice worked, he should be in prison for Libra Coin.

>>514012128
Rumors say millei sold your country to make the greater Israel. I hope you, native argies make the 111. That will be an alto guiso ; )

>>514012129
>socialists
Doesn't Israel have all kinds of socialist policies?

>>514012248
>I hope you, native argies make the 111.
Habla indio de mierda

>>514008525
You forget you can still dig down.

>>514012290
Habla bien*

>>514012290
No u, kek

>>514012231
So no one so far, aight

>>514008550
>I just have this impression of Argentina being all about eating out at cafes all the time but maybe too much of the population has been priced out of that now.
There didn't seem to be a lot else to do there. I'm not the dance-club type of person, but everything else I looked for, I didn't find. No fishing charters, not much in the way of tech or "maker" type stuff. I guess there's a theater scene but since I don't speak Spanish I didn't bother to go. Not even any real strip joints, closest I found was one place that had a "revue" in which some tranny spent most of the time telling dick-size jokes with occasional interludes of take-off-a-few-clothes-down-to-bra-and-panties "stripping".

I spent six weeks going out to eat pretty often and working on my own writing. Lots of nice people there, a few complete dicks, some excellent restaurants (favorite was a place called Foga Ahumados), that's about it. I've heard other areas are both cheaper and nicer, especially some German-ish town in the mountains where there is fly fishing (but it's midwinter and fucking freezing right now).

comen travas
en caba se comen
En caba se comen traaaaavasss
Y polenta
en la caba comen polenta
en la caba comen polentttttaaaa

>>514012346
Fueros politicos

>>514012287
There are some relics yeah. They have been trying to privatize a lot of it but the results weren't great. Public transportation for example became worse.

>>514010017
I really don't know. I mean, Buenos Aires is probably pretty rich from all the government workers. But easily 90% of dogs that I saw were tiny little ankle-biters, probably more like 95%. There were a handful of absolutely beautiful German shepherds, though, like "these dogs should star in dog-food commercials and porn videos" beautiful. And as I said, I only saw one shitbull the entire time, which was great.

>>514007164
>nurses were already pissed
Nurses are always pissed. Irrelevant talking point.

>>514012509
just get enough votes and they lose those and can be taken to court and sentenced if guilty. the gov has a very small minority in both houses, shouldnt be hard right? Unless peroniggers are scared because they know theyre going to get their asses handed to them come the elections in two months

>>514012129
The insanity is part ot the appeal he had to his backers. I don't know how much you observe this kind of stuff but back in like 2017 the ruling coalition of populist left and right parties in Italy broke down, leading to reformation of a government by an establishment politician(Gabrielo Monti). He introduced some austerity measures that were obviously unpopular but most likely necessary and this most likely led to the current mixed right wing coalition government in Italy of which two thirds are what you would call "alternative parties"(FdI and Lega). That these parties tempered their rhetorics is irrelevant because what matters is that the establishment, composed of completely compromised and controlled people with their giant networks of nepotism was heavily damaged and there was a lot of personal loss. Meanwhile the RW coalition is able to continue the austerity policy while not getting associated with it.

Now here comes Argentina and Milei. A madman. A guy who wore cringy superhero outfit on the tv. Said he'll bring a chainsaw to the state. This crazy madman introduced austerity which imo long term will be unpopular, but it's also necessary. Then the crazy madman can be disposed and establishment parties can bring back to their nepotism networks while not having to worry about the state on which said networks depend collapsing due to insolvency and the things that made austerity unpopular will just become normalised and won't be reverted.

>>514009525
You can’t make this shit up
It’s worse than we thought

>>514012643
>just vote harder for them to punish themselves
geez

>>514010860
The first thing he did when he won was go to CHABAD synagogue HQ in New York. He has his own rabbi. Like he would his soul for worldly power. He went to go touch the wall, I remember watching a pathetic video of him in an interview saying “the first thing I will do after I win, is go to the wailing wall in Israel” proudly

>>514004370 (OP)
Yes he's pulling his country from decades of leftist economic ruin which causes /pol/ to seethe because this is a nigger lover left wing tranny conclave

He is losing control.

>>514012248
There was stories about jews buying up lots of land in Argentina after a mysterious arson fire burned up a lot of land and properties
Maybe someone has the story, people were talking about it on here. So this slimy fuck Milei started selling all the natural resources and land to the jew mafia and Israel dirt cheap after betraying his people in Argentina

>>514013373
Lying on 4chan for upvotes sanjay?

>>514013334
The worst government in the history of my country, (((coincidence)))?

>>514013400
No, it was on here. Maybe it wasn’t “proven” but there was arsons and fires and they didn’t find the suspects, but jews are interesting in buying up land and properties there and he happily obliges them and sells things to them dirt cheap
Guys a slimeball, he even sent his country’s gold reserves away mysteriously without saying anything about it

>>514013474
Argentina suffered under leftist economic ideology which not only collapsed your economy but made your entire society worthless. Milei is turning that around.
>>514013486
It was obviously fake because communists can't stop crying about Milei because he told them to get a real job and not bloodsuck people's taxes

he is going down (prison)
it is a matter of weeks

>>514013554
There’s plenty of real shady activity with this guy

>>514013662
Not really. Meanwhile the leftists that ruled Argentina quite seriously made the economy a complete ruin and destroyed the currency. Leftist ideology has poisoned Argentina completely that's why Milei is fixing it now. The leftist hyenas like yourself just want to steal from peoples taxes and make up lies to defend it. I wish he shot people like you instead of just firing you from your fake government position.

>>514010860
I voted for Milei but he's very clearly autistic or emotionally stunted. He's obsessed with judaism.

Nobody likes poland, not even polish people.

>>514007601
memes aside, consume is under a historical low, it is pretty bad, those cafes and restaurants are EMPTY, back in the day we had people from Europe or the US spending money, but now our country is far more expensive than Dubai.

he is still going to do great on next elections people have faith, he is like a Moses guiding the jews, he even makes that analogy, he sees himself as Moses.

He has a very solid speech despite most of it being false:
He is Moses
Anything that is remotely good is caused by him
Everything bad is caused by a socialist past
Democracy is not that good, sometimes he has to overpower congress
Government MUST NOT serve the people, the private will do
Therefore government stopped doing a lot of things BUT IT TAXES FAR MORE THAN BEFORE (in terms of amount of money, less taxes for new cars, or high wages).
So the government is not doing much (infrastructure, health services, etc) but they still get the money, where? their pockets
Argentinian FED is still here, he never dynamited it, in fact it has more power now
Constant talks with the US FED, he is not printing more pesos, but, he wants the US to print US dollars for him (debt)

there is a lot of similar fuckery that makes no sense, IMO the end is near

>>514013554
>Argentina suffered under leftist
Mention a socialist or communist government that Argentina has had.

>>514014501
You see, I read this, and I kinda don't care if a Polish dude believes we had freaking communism, what concerns me and fascinates me is that millions here, truly believe anything before this government was communism degeneracy

>>514009525
dude is also the biggest landlord at Buenos Aires, it is hilarious

>>514014501
Literally all of them from Peron to Fernandez?

Or are you one of those "it wasn't real socialism!" types?

>>514014679
>what concerns me and fascinates me is that millions here, truly believe anything before this government was communism degeneracy
Right, you didn't have gulags, so it definitely wasn't real communism!

>>514015344
private propriety was never abolished, and no, taxes are not communism

>>514015490
>taxes are not communism
Never said they were, but nice strawman.

>>514007164
>I don't see how people can survive
>even a basic U.S.-tier fast-food
you guys are something else with your worship of junk food

>>514016034
It's simply a useful comparison to a standard that nearly any American can relate to.

>>514016034
I see you didn't bother to mention my comparison of the price of eggs between the two countries.