Thread 514022049

I see the political implications of the war on masculinity talked about a lot on here (as it should be because it's fucked up), but I hardly ever hear much about the war on femininity.
From millenials downwards in age, we have entire generations of women who think doing or being anything feminine is degrading. They make it a virtue never to smile in public; they base their identities around how many masculine habits they have instead of feminine.
What the fuck is to be done about this? Society without the feminine is boring and drab and sad; I'd say even women are starting to notice some of it at this point. I understand the reasoning behind the war on masculinity, of course: they want a bunch of bitchmade dorks who will never fight back. Easy enough
But what the FUCK is with so much effort being spent to destroy femininity too? And what, if anything could even be done? It's actually fucking horrendous, from both a political and social perspective.

>>514022049 (OP)
Just wait for society to fall apart more. There is no reasonable action to pursue at this point.

>>514022049 (OP)
did the tomboy meme psyop women into thinking that acting like a man isn't repulsive to us?

>>514022168
Actually robowaifus are a 'reasonable action to pursue at this point', sir.

By deflating the hoeflation currency (roastoid pussy), it will go a long way towards correcting the major issues. An increasingly-large percentage of the male population suddenly being happy for the first time in their lives will do the rest.

Take the Asian pill

>>514022605
I don't think women care at all about what repulses men anymore kek
Even their obsession with preventing slut "shaming" has everything to do with maintaining their pecking order amongst themselves than it does men's opinion of anything at all. They've been encouraged to demand and pursue (at ALL costs) complete "independence" from the other half of humanity, while simultaneously trying to reap all benefits of being full members of society. Being male is yucky original sin to them. They think of us as boyim the same way jews think of us as goyim

>>514023304
>I don't think women care at all about what repulses men anymore kek
they really care what repulses chad. they act masculine and then complain and blame men for not committing

>>514022049 (OP)
Meanwhile they want men to be women

Women nowadays don't even put their hands in front of their mouths when they laugh. That's how bad it is.

>>514023557
Do they really, though?
Those men who act like women thus as women instruct are literally never "successful" with women and the men women choose to date/fuck are not the woman-men.
What they want is for men to whom theyre attracted to be masculine and for every other man to act like a submissive bitch who never EVER dares to defy a woman or approach her.
This just is what it is in the dating scene and "sexual marketplace" but is actively destroying society in every other sector, which is the meat and potatoes of the problem.

>>514022049 (OP)
Kys transhumanist fag I see exactly what you are doing

>>514023206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4NH7rKKdmE

>>514023769
I just finished up the show recently and enjoyed it
I would never be a robo-waifu guy. Wouldn't give 2 shits about women in society if my goal was to eventually fuck a machine kek

>>514022049 (OP)
it’s women doing this to themselves. just like the war on masculinity is caused by them too.
women complain endlessly about everything.
on tiktok half their content is telling them to get a divorce and to not take care of their husband because they shouldn’t be his mom.

>>514023304
>think of us as boyim
Keeeeeek
>>514022049 (OP)
Feminity = whoredom. All of your Disney gobbledygook isn't real. Women evolved with one purpose, to spread their legs for Chad's seed, to have betas and simps create a supporting environment to nurture that seed.

>>514022049 (OP)
Pro thread
I like the topic
We should discuss more about that but think you said it all

>>514023878
>not take care of their husband because they shouldn’t be his mom.
This shit is so fucking disgusting to me. Theres a SHITLOAD of area between ice-queen and mommy-therapist theyre actively encouraging each other to ignore entirely

>>514023833
>Im not trying to disgust both genders of each others so they end up being miserable subhuman with their fucking AI gf/bf
Sure faggot

>>514022049 (OP)
The modern social project seems designed to dismantle the traditional family structure. It actively creates barriers, making it more difficult for men and women to form lasting bonds and build families together. In effect, society is being engineered to resemble an ant colony, a system of largely sexless worker drones, where procreation is limited to a privileged few. I see this as a form of soft genocide. With the rise of automation and robotics, the elite no longer require a massive labor force. Rather than resorting to overt violence to reduce the population, the method is more subtle - they manipulate social and economic conditions to discourage people from having children at all.

>>514023882
You’re retarded. This is why you’re a virgin btw
>>514022049 (OP)
You’re also a slightly retarded. It’s not a war on masculinity or femininity. It’s not about diversity or mass migration or affirmative action or whatever the fuck. It’s not about faggots or trannies.

It’s about taking anything that’s natural, and then inverting it. Inversion and corruption is all Jews know.

>>514023971
>acknowledging the specific issues one gender is causing on /pol/ is ackshually trying to start some fuckass war between the genders
Whatever nigger

>>514022049 (OP)
you know
the extreme lack of femininity displayed by women affects men in societal level
witnessing it is a necessary foil to activate our masculinity
without being able to witness femininity man starts to take it upon himself to display it
hence the tranny epidemic

>>514022049 (OP)
Men are retreating from relationships, from institutional demands, from collective obligation. Not by cowardice, nor nihilism, nor weakness but by sacred refusal to collude with a world that has hollowed out the feminine into parody and severed eros from its mythic root.
This retreat is not a conscious movement toward soul, for most men have not heard of soul. It is not a deliberate descent into myth, for most don't remember the myths. And yet it happens, everywhere.
Men retreat not in search of the feminine within but in search of refuge. They turn away from real relationships, work, education, not because they hate women, but because the outer feminine devoid of beauty, of function, of soul has become unrecognizable and if given a choice between emptiness and the parody, they choose emptiness. They choose nothing rather than violate what remains of their inner integrity.
But it is there in the void that the great possibility stirs.
Even if they do not name her, do not know her, have never met her, still within that emptiness the anima awaits.
She does not need to be reimagined, reengineered, or "updated". She does not ask to be made familiar to the modern psyche. She need only be seen, once. As she is in the dark, without distortion, without irony, without demand.

This act of remembering is enough.

Because where culture collapses, myth re-emerges and where men descend into the silence beneath language, soul prepares its next eruption. The anima was never meant to be found in daylight; she is born in shadow, dwells in dream and speaks first through absence.
So let it be said: true virtue is born in darkness.
And when men meet her there not as escape, not as fantasy, but as a reawakening they will return. Not as obedient citizens of a broken world, but as bearers of the fire, as visionaries, warriors, poets, and builders, not of new systems but of meaningful life.

This is not disappearance, it's gestation.

>>514022605
He's not wrong.
Women are all toxic hypocrites.

>>514022049 (OP)
Elites are worshipers of Baphomet, and Baphomet is androgynous. The phrase 'As above, so below' works in reverse too.

>>514024052
Your words have consequences
>hahaha fuck 3d women
This board is full of retards without tact

>>514024376
Okay so you must be a woman
Because I never said fuck women at all. I talked about actionable items to fix the cantankerous and socially destructive behavior. Somebody interested in whatever the fuck youre accusing me of wouldn't at all be interested in fixing anything.
You just need to frame this as woman-hate or your feminist talking point about "hate" becomes invalid and you have nothing to say.

>>514023943
You just brought up a generation of lazy-asses.

>>514022049 (OP)
>From millenials downwards in age, we have entire generations of women who think doing or being anything feminine is degrading. They make it a virtue never to smile in public; they base their identities around how many masculine habits they have instead of feminine.
It is rare that I say WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SCHIZO RAMBLING ABOUT? Have you ever seen a girl aged 14-30? Women never smile WTF? Go outside. You see girls with long hair, long nails, dresses, earrings, handbags, they smile, they giggle, they read books. Nigga just go outside. You’re delusional. If anything women have become more feminine and less independent with less can-do attitude for the last 20 years.

>>514024894
Not everyone here is the incel you imagine. Wild take

>>514024526
It's simple for any oldfag :
sexual liberation/feminism is a creation of jews.
Elon Musk recently said we must become one with the machine. The fucker created a AI app on which the youth with shitty parents giving them a phone at 8yo go. This app is asking them to express their biggest fears/envy ect... each confession is recompensed by a 2D avatar who takes off his clothes.
There is a AI in a Switzerland church speaking like Jesus and people confess to the AI, speak to it.
It doesn't take a genius to understand what is going on.

>>514025063
I agree with 100%
It is logically consistent to believe what youve posted and that women IN GENERAL have an attitude issue with wide reaching effects right now at the same time. Nothing within either contradicts the other.

>>514023878
>women complain about everything

This is true. They are never content and as a result they just eat themselves and spread absolute misery as they do so. Horribly insecure and retarded little creatures.

>>514022049 (OP)
>What is to be done about this?
Ban all forms of contraception. No condoms/pills/abortions and watch everything from kissing before marriage to the entire harlot culture (including sodomy) will vanish. Then there will be no feminism nor mgtow. Problem solved.

>>514022049 (OP)
My girlfriend pointed this war on the feminine out. She finds it repulsive that most women act as manly as possible these days. I agree with her.

>>514025225
Based gf
Be good to her, anon.

>>514025334
That's a devil's advice.
>>514025225
Marry her or chase her away with a marriage proposal.

>>514023304
kek good one

>>514022049 (OP)
Men are retreating from relationships, from institutional demands, from collective obligation. Not by cowardice, nor nihilism, nor weakness but by sacred refusal to collude with a world that has hollowed out the feminine into parody and severed eros from its mythic root.
This retreat is not a conscious movement toward soul, for most men have not heard of soul. It is not a deliberate descent into myth, for most don't remember the myths. And yet it happens, everywhere.
Men retreat not in search of the feminine within but in search of refuge. They turn away from real relationships, work, education, not because they hate women, but because the outer feminine devoid of beauty, of function, of soul has become unrecognizable and if given a choice between emptiness and the parody, they choose emptiness. They choose nothing rather than violate what remains of their inner integrity.
But it is there in the void that the great possibility stirs.
Even if they do not name her, do not know her, have never met her, still within that emptiness the anima awaits.
She does not need to be reimagined, reengineered, or "updated". She does not ask to be made familiar to the modern psyche. She need only be seen, once. As she is in the dark, without distortion, without irony, without demand.

This act of remembering is enough.

Because where culture collapses, myth re-emerges and where men descend into the silence beneath language, soul prepares its next eruption. The anima was never meant to be found in daylight; she is born in shadow, dwells in dream and speaks first through absence.
So let it be said: true virtue is born in darkness.
And when men meet her there not as escape, not as fantasy, but as a reawakening they will return. Not as obedient citizens of a broken world, but as bearers of the fire, as visionaries, warriors, poets, and builders, not of new systems but of meaningful life.

This is not disappearance, it's gestation.

"How do we fix this"?
Stop fornicating.
"I'd rather suffer".
Typical.

>>514024004
yet they also actively breed and import indians and africans as slave labor around the planet. it's a double whammy.

>>514026303
Here's your (you)
Go away now, please.

>>514022049 (OP)
>efforts to destroy femininity (presumably by feminist movements)
Eh some feminist-movements do work towards what you are saying, but some also do the opposite. I think you might be late to the party.
I think (might be wrong) that third wave feminism was partially about re-embracing that traditional femininity whilst holding onto their dignity and autonomy. So this concern has been widespread in the past.
Though I concede that the efforts of the third-wave may have been eroded over 30 years after its death.

>>514023293
lmao i wonder if some of these makeup routine videos add a filter half way through
Is the end result supposed to look good? It looks alien.

>>514028461
>some feminist-movements do work towards what you are saying
And I really dont have much of a problem with those, if any. At least for me, it really is not about blanket-hating women or finding some reason to justify starting. I am a straight man and hating women like that would be extremely unpleasant on that basis.
Even now, it's not a particularly big deal to lay blame in my opinion. A lot of men are directly at fault for or have viciously enabled the issues I described in OP. Its more just: here's where we are and it sucks so where the fuck do we go from here?
I am not a woman so I can't act as one and yet as a man my actions toward solution are very limited in scope. A conundrum.

>>514028743
>not concerned by who is at fault and more concerned by how to amend it
I see, comprehension issue on my part
I don't know enough to go deeper.
I wonder if the erosion of feminism is part a greater group of things getting eroded in favour of efficiency, functionality and logic. Maybe give more weight to emotions or aesthetics?
When I'm waiting for the bus, I like to pose a little dynamically to inject some vitality and femininity (i'm a man) into the area, but maybe that's just bullshit. I also caress my neck sometimes.

>>514029326
Frankly I just hope we make it out of this into a position where we can coexist while women still have rights
As unpopular of an opinion as that last part might be here, having to constantly babysit some lady in a burka who now double hates me (both for being a man and her new lack of rights) sounds fucking miserable.
Muslims are weird, for example, because they go on about their control of women and yet they spend their lives having to babysit and enforce every bit of that. I'd prefer a significantly less troublesome life and respect from fear is always inferior to respect from appreciation.

>>514024004

Thats not even it
It's the iron law of wages
Dismal science is dismal

>>514029686
Reactions and countercultures have popped up in the past and will pop up again. I sure the penduluum will eventually swing the other way

>>514022049 (OP)
Thats why you should be a feminine looking male and become a master of both worlds. Like me UwU

>>514023293
Creepy ass bug women.

>>514023206
When robowives are out, why would anyone care about dating real women again?

>>514022049 (OP)
>They make it a virtue never to smile in public
They don't smile anymore because men have become desperate creeps who take it as an invitation to interact with them instead of the minimum polite gesture to go about the rest of their day.

None of this shit is happening in a vacuum. Men these days idolize guys like Andrew Tate and Dan Bilzerian and WOMEN KNOW IT. It's not some cosmic secret that a huge portion of men look at women as objects to fuck and discard... then mock for being foolish enough to get conned by the lothario act. Almost every woman alive has been the object of a man who tried and/or succeeded at fooling them into a one night stand, often under the impression that there was a real connection there.

Then, they further poison the well by blaming women for a completely reasonable reaction to being conned into an experience lots of women find deeply traumatic and disgusting.

I'm not trying to say all men are bad and all women are good because no one has a monopoly on shitty behavior. But this feels like the most relevant point to make here where so many anons view women as breeding equipment and possessions. If you want shit to change, maybe try taking society back from the infinitely self-centered, degenerate playboys who do the lion's share of well-poisoning. Then maybe women will smile at you in public. Until then... don't expect anyone to lower their guard around you.

>>514022049 (OP)
any woman who wants to can do the following things
(1) get married
(2) not accuse her husband of rape or threaten him with divorce
if women wont do that, thats 100% their problem that they are personally going to burn in hell for

>>514022049 (OP)
you do absolutely nothing about this. women will always do what theyre told. the end.
you either become their authority or they will follow someone elses lead. this is how it works.

the leader they have now was picked by you and the other posters posting here. yes, it was you.
it was you and now you complain. youre idiots. you should complain about all of your parents being idiots and giving birth to you regardless.

>>514023304
>their obsession with preventing slut "shaming" has everything to do with maintaining their pecking order amongst themselves
slut shaming is only a thing if a woman can not be a slut and instead be a housewife who never has to work. but with no fault divorce and marital rape laws, marriage is illegal, so now theres no actual incentive not to be a slut

Not a problem overseas.
Maybe the West should learn

>>514030268
WILD misinterpretation.
The faggots you mention are popular with jeets and jeets only. Andrew tate's faggy little school had its enrollment list leaked and it was pic related. The rise out counterfeminist thought you are seeing is not because men are being brainwashed by dumbshit pedos. Treating literally everybody like theyre a secret Andrew tate fan in public is exactly what I was mentioning and your weird ass defense of it proves my point.

>>514022049 (OP)
>But what the FUCK is with so much effort being spent to destroy femininity too?

No femininity means no Male arousal means no chasing skirts means no coitus means no White babies being born.

Everything in the Moderin World revolves around destroying the Total Fertility Rate of the White species.

>>514030429
>the leader they have now was picked by you and the other posters posting here. yes, it was you.
>it was you and now you complain. youre idiots. you should complain about all of your parents being idiots and giving birth to you regardless
i didnt choose zucc and jack, i didnt want college girls to post racy pictures on faceberg and everyone to get banned for saying sex is immutable

>>514030268
Not our fault you are whores

>>514026303
>Stop fornicating
the problem isnt fornication, its not even adultery, its state enforced fatherlessness in the service of what would be adultery if marriage was a thing

>>514030726
>Everything in the Moderin World revolves around destroying the Total Fertility Rate of the White species.

Picrel is what terrifies our enemies.

>>514030268
>objects to fuck and discard... then mock for being foolish enough to get conned by the lothario act
yeah well how about stop divorcing men who love you. whoops cant do that

>>514025203
I can't understand why he tried to pick a fight with you lmao you didn't agree with the show you said

>>514022049 (OP)

Good point

PICREL ; NO COMMENT

>>514030603
lol you should look up Samurai Duels in Japan. Well that's what I would say but damn that video was weirdly difficult to again
> Men Use “Samurai Duels” to Fight Radical Feminism in Japan

>>514022049 (OP)
Feminine women haven't been invented yet.

>>514022049 (OP)
It's a war on humanity really

>>514030649
>Andrew tate's faggy little school had its enrollment list leaked and it was pic related
So if I search this, I'm going to find a list of almost entirely Indian names without anyone who's identifiably Western? That's what you're implying here. I just want to make sure you're willing to die on this hill before going any further into it.
>Treating literally everybody like theyre a secret Andrew tate fan
That's not the point I was making. Tate and Bilzerian are just the most caustic of the manosphere dweebs. Easy way to prove me wrong here, for the record. Do you support the following?
>women's suffrage
>women as independent actors rather than subservient to men
>the right of women to walk down the street without indulging every man she meets
Simple yes/no to the above will take fifteen seconds and would be a great little heuristic.

>>514032013
I'm not doing an aggressive interrogation within your bullshit framing
This is the part where you insist I'm a coward or some shit because
>hurrrr 15 seconds

>>514032353
Nah, you misunderstand me. I'm just asking you to take a stand on your position and state what you believe in real terms without any spin or rhetoric. If you're too cowardly to state what you believe in plain language... welp.

why should I care about women when they don't care about men?

stop being a simp, cuck

>>514031142
Greta is a based anti-semite now desu. Sydney just makes degenerate yid TV and sells jew-jeans.

>>514032632
No, its that youre trying to question me as if you have a moral high ground that you do not have. That is to say, we may indeed agree on several things but it is your aggressive insistence on these answers, which you would surely use to continue asking me questions in a flagrantly hostile manner, which tells me this is not a good use of my time. It wouldn't be a good use of yours either, frankly.

>>514032831
>That is to say, we may indeed agree on several things
Yeah, like what? Suffrage? Freedom from harassment and the obligation to reciprocate unwanted attention? Agency over property? Do tell.

>>514023304
>boyim
Gold

>>514032912
>suggerage
Yes, you dumb bitch. My opinions on nearly all of those are in my replies to other people. You have no interest in gathering the actual information because if you did, you would have just read it yourself.
Your interest lies in starting an aggressive socratic-questioning session and I'm not fucking doing that with you lmao

>>514022049 (OP)
Men are retreating from relationships, from institutional demands, from collective obligation. Not by cowardice, nor nihilism, nor weakness but by sacred refusal to collude with a world that has hollowed out the feminine into parody and severed eros from its mythic root.
This retreat is not a conscious movement toward soul, for most men have not heard of soul. It is not a deliberate descent into myth, for most don't remember the myths. And yet it happens, everywhere.
Men retreat not in search of the feminine within but in search of refuge. They turn away from real relationships, work, education, not because they hate women, but because the outer feminine devoid of beauty, of function, of soul has become unrecognizable and if given a choice between emptiness and the parody, they choose emptiness. They choose nothing rather than violate what remains of their inner integrity.
But it is there in the void that the great possibility stirs.
Even if they do not name her, do not know her, have never met her, still within that emptiness the anima awaits.
She does not need to be reimagined, reengineered, or "updated". She does not ask to be made familiar to the modern psyche. She need only be seen, once. As she is in the dark, without distortion, without irony, without demand.

This act of remembering is enough.

Because where culture collapses, myth re-emerges and where men descend into the silence beneath language, soul prepares its next eruption. The anima was never meant to be found in daylight; she is born in shadow, dwells in dream and speaks first through absence.
So let it be said: true virtue is born in darkness.
And when men meet her there not as escape, not as fantasy, but as a reawakening they will return. Not as obedient citizens of a broken world, but as bearers of the fire, as visionaries, warriors, poets, and builders, not of new systems but of meaningful life.

This is not disappearance, it's gestation.

>>514031142
Greta is a peak femenine European woman; Sydney Sweeney represents degenerate jewish femenism.

>>514022049 (OP)
the jewish central banking governors figured out that divide and conquer is a good strategy to enslave goyims and that inducing fears into them makes them also better consumers.
so they put men up against woman and woman against men.
they teach them through the media and psyops how to behave and what to think and as less people get laid, have less relationships, families etc. more copes are consumed and more money end up in jewish pockets while the goyims are all unhappy, suicidal, lonely and poor.
these jews also think this is incredibly funny.

>>514033068
A... Metamorphosis?

>>514033056
>Your interest lies in starting a socratic-questioning session
Absolutely. Your interest lies in avoiding it because you sense the contradictions lurking if you admit to holding any of these values -- the ones you suggest we share, more or less -- in the face of the argument you just made. Yes, in a sense, it absolutely is about dominating you rhetorically and logically. Socrates established a very good method for surfacing values and then trapping people in their poor logic. That's what I'm trying to do to you.

It seems, at least, we both agree that there's some poor logic lurking in there to be protected. Maybe that's enough.

>>514033457
>avoiding it because blablablabla assumptions
No, I'm not fucking doing that with you because it's undignified. Get over yourself and grow up, please.

>>514022049 (OP)
Difference being that the destruction of feminity was largely self-inflicted by women

>>514022049 (OP)
Kill all women. Problem solved. The product is adversarial, inherently.

>>514031690
and it's justified. final red pill.

>>514030268
No man in this thread is going to be convinced by this propaganda, you and your fellow feminists are making things worse for yourselves by viewing everything through an identitarian lens

>>514022049 (OP)
What femininity? I've never seen it before.

>>514023304
They compete with each other by lowering the competition beneath them instead of uplifting themselves above. Its a crabs in a bucket mentality and it does not matter to them if they are all trash. You either have to pick them or not at all. Its the ultimate tantrum since they refuse all personal responsibility. You have to compensate them or they will flip the board. Seems like more and more men dont care to play.

>>514030268
>Declare war on males
>disparage them in all media, displace them, rob them, tell them they are wrong for being born
>men start hating women
>OMG, this is exactly why we hate men!

>>514035000
They simply can't think outside of the "gender war" framing or acknowledge their own role as aggressors within it, it's remarkable

>>514034511
I just see it in either Eastern Fiction or maybe some places in Europe/Asia.
In America it's rare to see anything genuine.
Every bitch wants to be the "man" aka be a obnoxious fuckhead with entitlement and money

>>514022049 (OP)
the plan is to make women out of men and men out of women.
i.e. make women more masculine to the point of losing all their positive femininity and making men more feminine to the point of losing all their positive masculinity.
just a big ol' glob of spiritually neutered, identity-less and interchangeable cookie-cutter goyim only existing to provide labor and taxes to everyone's favorite tribe

such is the plan, and as you see it's been coming along greatly these past few decades.

>>514022049 (OP)
>The war on femininity
That one is not talked about enough honestly. The jew loves masculine, man jawed women pegging him up his ass with her strap on because of his little bitch boy mommy issues. He could never make his tiger mom happy and SHE wore the pants not the jewish cuckold dad. For that alone Israel should be turned into a glass parking lot.

>>514022049 (OP)
Women don't love

You can't except women to be feminine and carefree in the low trust world we live in.
It's just how it is.

>>514038978
I meant expect not except