Thread 514030905

AHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH MORE LIKE GAY-REECE AMIRITE?

>>514030905 (OP)
But they wouldn't try.

Listening to the "war college" of the country that allowed itself to go through this is like listening to the financial advice of a homeless guy

>>514030905 (OP)
Why are you letting Greece put Kikes on Cypress?

>>514030905 (OP)
Turkey can’t win Athens in war
>>514031248
What about Gallipoli and Istanbul? Did you chicken out just before the game could get real?

>>514031329
They are easier to kill on a small island

>>514031248
>turks versus bulgars fighting over Constantinople
Such a sad sight for greeks.

Obviously. The Turks have the power of KARA BOGA on their side.

Turks have been sissified too, sorry, it's the truth.

>>514030905 (OP)
No, the chief should say Turkey can't compete with it's current budget against Greece and Turkey's aspirations in the east. Therefore, the government must increase the budget.
Have you learned nothing from America?

It would be funny if when WW3 breaks out Greece and Turkey are probably technically supposed to be on the same side but they ignore the rest of the world completely and fight against each other the whole time. After 40 years of intense combat killing almost everyone, peace is negotiated by accepting the border on Cyprus is moved by half a mile.

>>514030905 (OP)
They don't need to win, they just need to make it a shitty enough proposition for you roaches not to try it.

>>514030905 (OP)
>muh grey wolves
Stick to making kapsalons ali.

>>514030905 (OP)
OHOHOHOHOHOH

>>514030905 (OP)
It's not like they'll be alone. I'd join their army to kill roaches

>>514030905 (OP)
>NATO-ally fights NATO-ally

>>514032403
KEK so true.
But Greece against Turkey is a no brainer. Even if the greeks could do some shit with their american and euro weapons intially. It will never be enough. Turkey is simpoly to big in every regard. Yeah the greeks could hit this and that but then what? Strockpiles run out quickly and missiles can only be fired once.
After that they are just waiting to get slaughtered. And there arent any more NATO weapons to go around. Israel and Ukraine have drained almost everything.

>>514031489
>Turkey can’t win Athens in war

Onyl because Europe and the US wouldnt allow it. Israel would also not let that chance slip away and bomb them as well. Like they always do. Waiting like vultures.
But left alone, Greece doesnt stand a chance in the world. It wouldnt be like Ukraine and Russia at all. The turks could move in a million soldiers over Thrace. A simple landinvasion and what many dont know is that Turkeys true strength are its massive groundforces. Thats what makes them so dangerous for countries in the region.

>>514032611
Is anyone afraid of actual French people?

Why are T*rks so zealous with their gay ass flag?

>Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.

>Source? "Trust me guys."

>I've audited myself and found myself completely fine.

>>514030905 (OP)
Greece already tried that in 1919-1922 and got btfo so hard they had to crawl back to the WWI Entente that was still occupying Constantinople to convince Ataturk to not invade Greece.
That was at a time there was near zero industry in Anatolia. In the meantime Greek population less than doubled while Turkey multiplied by 6.

>>514033446
>oh no
>not nationalism
You know where you should go back to?

>>514030905 (OP)
If Greece could beat Turkey in a war, Cyprus and "Istanbul" wouldn't be occupied.

>>514033446
thirdoid behaviour
>>514033671
einmal Döner mit Scharf

>>514033671
go back to turkey muhammed

>>514030905 (OP)
hol up

As much as I love to shit talk the Turks, I mean yeah, obviously.

>>514032611
>OHOHOHOHOHOH

>>514033724
>>514033740
predictable. Get new material.
No I am not Turkish, it's just funny that people are angry about ultranationalism on /pol/ of all places.

>>514030905 (OP)
In a land war of course not. But if they blockade Instambul and the straight, your country collapses.

Apparently turks are bullying greeks on wplace as well.

>>514033965
How can they blockade anything when turks got a bigger navy, god knows how many drones and ballistic missiles?

>>514033366
we humiliate Turkey on their sea recently...

>>514034163
Source? Im genuinely asking, because I didnt hear anything about that.

>>514034163
We are humiliating ourselves recently

>>514033925
:D

>>514034073
Do they? I thought Greece had a strong navy. Did you make them sell it off for to pay debts?

>empty boasting

Is there any other country who likes circle jerking more than we do?

Internal media: new mpt-76 rifle is the best rifle in the world!!111!!
Foreign media: *crickets*

>>514031248
this lol

>>514034233
that's okay, we are used to it

>>514034226
ask Erdogan when he wanted to drill oil on the sea

>>514033446
You're just jealous because Australia's flag sucks doodoo.

>>514033929
>why are you offended by the nationalism of your enemies? we're all equal in the eyes of god :)
only thing worse than a t*rk is a liberal. you have to go back (to hell)

>>514034412
That was based.

>>514034279
Greece has a big merchant navy (containers flying Greek flag no mater the crew and construction site, although they do build a surprising chunk).
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_merchant_navy_capacity_by_country
Those are useless for the military navy.

>>514033925
Fuck you Turkroach

>>514034488
>a liberal
Really not a liberal here. Also liberal is an American term, fuck your memeflag Yank,

>>514032611
B-based frogs?! Is hell freezing over?

>>514034412
Oh that. Wasnt that Merkel back in the day, who intervened and threatened Erdogan with sanctions? Because Germany can actually hurt Turkey a lot via their economic ties with us. We still invest the most into their economy after all. I could be wrong and you mention something different. But a french carrierfleet would surely scare them away from whatever they wanted to do. The french navy is leagues above Turkeys.

Turkey has the potential to be a nuclear powerhouse but they keep cucking to the west, why is that ?

>>514034770
Its a quasi socialist state that cares more about appearances than reality, what do you expect.

>>514034730
Turkey is that kind of country that only listens to american, european, israeli and russian power. All the other countries in their vicinity would fall prey to them if not for that.
You have to remember them their place, every now and then. That I do know for sure. But Im a cautious person and truly expect them to become a real nuisance in the near future for all of these parties involved. maybe not the US, since its lightyears ahead of them, but they will start acting up when they continue to develop.

>>514034927
But Turkey can be easily dealt with. Even easier than Iran, imho. We could destroy their economy in a matter of weeks and tear the country apart by propping up the kurds at the same time. But another big destabilized shithole is the last thing the middle-east or Europe needs. It would only hurt the world economy and send in millions of rapefugees to Europe.

>>514033925
Be respectful to your saviors.

>>514030905 (OP)
Is israel going to start another war over there?

>>514034770
Erdogan is ok with being a total cuck provided others play along with his roleplay as Attila or Soliman.

>>514034730
Turks are afraid of ships filled with these?

>>514034073
>How can they blockade anything when turks got a bigger navy
Because we got dozens of unsinkable carriers right next to the Turkish coast. Don't you Turks always cry that the islands be demilitarized?

>>514035205
For sure. But im not sure what they want. First thing that comes to mind is tearing Turkey apart and leaving it broken like Iraq, Syria and Libya. That can be very easily done, which is actually the most logical thing to do. Take the straits and leave the rest of the country to whoever may come out victorious. Be it kemalists, marxists, kurds or islamic extremists.

But I think Israel if after something else. Probably a puppet goverment ruled by NATO that acts as a smaller China for the wests industry and a Ukraine like foodbasket.
But if we are being honest here, that would be the best outcome for the turks as well.
Lets be honest here, turks have proven that they cant rule themselves and always suffer and missmanage everything. Why dont they simply become a vasall state with higher living standards? Its not like they have to lose anything at this point.

>>514035472
LOL? Where did you get that im a turk? Read my other posts. Doesnt Turkey have a bigger navy? Im sure it had but I could be wrong. I follow these things sporadically dude. Give me a break. Turkey is simply too big for Greece. Its a simple numbers game after all. Especially since you share a border with them.

>>514030905 (OP)
Turkarabs are poojeet and nigger tier subhuman filth. No redeeming qualities whatsoever. If Turkarabia got nuked today literally NOTHING of value would be lost. In fact it would be a net benefit for the Earth and humanity

>>514035472
No way Greece has the man power to defend those islands.

picrel: Greek Cypriot Bull balled Camila Morrone.

>>514035641
I feel like the greater israel project is no longer a conspiracy theory. I can't believe they waited this long to execute it.

>>514035167
everytime im reminded of this war I remember that the UK is the eternal enemy of mankind

>>514032069
Before it got ruined by communism, post-ottoman Bulgaria had been for a while the only nation decent at fighting from that area. Every time they lost was because all their neighbours ganged up on them, though their diplomacy was fucking retarded.

>>514035229
The french navy is the best in Europe. Maybe second to the UK, but they are really strong. That much I do know.
And France has far better ships and long range missiles. They could sink every turkish ship before the turks would even notice that they are being actively attacked.
Let me make something perfectly clear. I do my analysis with Turkey regarding Greece. I never compared them to larger european countries.
Showing that Greece is only 1/8 of Turkeys size (population) and still can put up a fight like that, shows that Greece is more capable but simply to small. Thats a reality.
Turkeys military is far weaker than people assume. Their have no airforce and no capabilities to mass produce anything but drones, who are ineffective against countries like France.
And Turkeys economy is in shambles and its 5 minutes away from civil war. Turkey could take on small countries like Greece and the other arab shitholes in the region, but against a european army they would be like sitting ducks.
They have no airforce, no air defense system, cant make tanks or artillery weapons without Rheinmetall "Glattrohrkanonen" or german engines. They cant build shit without european or american support. No matter what they tell themselves, thats the truth.

>>514036157
And leave the straits to Russia? The english and french saving the turks was not a good will gesture. It was simply to not let Russia take Anatolia. The actual biggest mistake was giving up the straits that were already under their control post WW1.How they came up with that idiotic decision should boggle your mind. Not stopping the russians from gaining even more lands.

>>514036355
Buh-but we can send an astronaut to space as cargo on someone else's spaceship!

I am kidding.

>>514036668
I'd rather have Russia have Constantinople than the turks

>>514036355
>anything but drones, who are ineffective against countries like France.
Are they? How is droning a Leclerc or a french ship any different to droning a Russian tank/ship? Unless the french have drone countermeasures I'm not aware of, I doubt they would fare any better.
Also, I'm pretty sure every western country would explode in protests as soon as videos of their soldiers getting killed started going around unless it was a defensive war or an extremely popular war for some reason.
The west doesn't know what losing thousands of soldiers per day is like anymore. Back when all the shit in the middle east happened, western countries would put even a single patrol getting wiped out by an IED on the news and the anti-war faction would use it as ammo. Imagine what a conflict with ukraine-lever of coverage of tens of thousands of deaths would cause.

>>514036157
>the UK is the eternal enemy of mankind

Have they ever left out even a single opportunity to fuck over Europe and Europeans?
From turk invaders to the transatlantic muttoid swarm over the soviet horde, they have never failed to ally with the enemies of mankind even once.

>>514035773
>Doesnt Turkey have a bigger navy?
Which can be hit by artillery placed on the islands right next to Turkey's coast.
>Turkey is simply too big for Greece. Its a simple numbers game after all.
We are talking about a defensive war. This isn't an RTS.
>>514035876
>No way Greece has the man power to defend those islands.
It's not about defending the islands, but weaponizing them against Turkey. The collateral damage of Turkey attacking the Eastern Aegean islands and Greece attacking Izmir would be orders of magnitude different.

>>514030905 (OP)
and yet greece still owns all the islands right in front of your homeland and you can only piss and shit yourself in anger.
couldn't even capture all of cyprus which is an independent non-nato island lmao.

>>514036039
The greater Israel project is the one certain thing happening down there.
Turkey was always a target of it and was always living on borrowed time. Just like the rest of the arab countries in the vicinity plus Iran.
Sometimes I do feel sorry for them, because I do understand them to a certain point... They were rulers once and even the europeans feared them. Only for them to become a backwards vasall state that became a playball of european, russian and later american and jewish powers. They suffer from an absurd inferiority complex and by trying to become a great power again, which will never happen, they only hurt themselves in the process.
How they didnt learn anything after a century is beyond me. They are not capable of becoming powerful like the west but die trying to do so.

>>514030905 (OP)
Well, technically nothing can "beat" cockroaches.

They can survive nuclear bombs for fucks sake.

>>514033446
Turks have no philosophy, no soul, and no art.
Anatolia peaked with Diogenes, the famous NEET of Sinope. It's been downhill ever since.

The first truly great NEET. None other than Alexander the Great had happened upon the city of Sinope in the wake of his life and of all the sights in the city who did he most wish to see? Diogenes the NEET. As he happened upon Diogenes, he told him
>I will give you whatever so you wish, you merely only need ask and it shall be provided
Diogenes, in his based state, looked upon his king and conqueror, the most powerful and venerated in the land, and he said to him
>Move a little to the left, you are blocking my sun
And Alexander, amused, doth quipped
>If I could not be Alexander, I would choose to be Diogenes
>To which Diogenes replied, "If I were not Diogenes, I would still wish to be Diogenes".
Did Alexander want to be Arigones the flour miller? Fuck no. Did he wish to be the idol maker? Nope. He wanted to be a NEET. Being NEET has been based forever and will still forevermore
>According to Diogenes Laërtius, when Plato gave the tongue-in-cheek[35] definition of man as "featherless bipeds,” Diogenes plucked a chicken and brought it into Plato's Academy, saying, "Here is Plato's man" (Οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ Πλάτωνος ἄνθρωπος), and so the academy added "with broad flat nails" to the definition.

Turks shit up the place and turned it into a cult of the Sultan/Emperor.

>>514030905 (OP)
you honestly think that if it comes to war it will only be the greeks ?

All Greece would have to do is make the Bosporus impassable to shipping with missile and drone strikes like the Houthis are doing in the Red Sea. Something like 40% of Turkeys economy is centered around the Sea of Marmara, imagine if there was no shipping going in and out of this area. Their economy would crater even worse than it has in the last decade. In modern warfare you don’t need to invade and occupy an entire nation to ensure victory. You merely have to collapse the other countries economy and let everything play out. I know Turkey still has ports on the Mediterranean and the Black Sea but enough cheap drones and missiles would still close a good portion of the country to outside trade. I don’t think Bulgaria, Romania and Serbia would stand idly by while Greece took on Turkey alone.

>thread about Greece vs Turkey
>Bunch of German flags defending Turkey

>>514033446
Australia's flag is indistinguishable from so many other flags. I wouldn't be proud of it either

>>514030905 (OP)
Greece only needs 300 strong men

>>514037292
You mean europeans and russians.
Greece was winning the war post WW1. The turks had no chance against them and were pushed back into central Anatolia in a very short time. But the europeans and russians decided that Greece should not become an emerging power, which they would have become if they had won that war.
They gave turks weapons and ammo to fight push the greek forces back. That was a huge betrayal and one that the greeks did not forget, I presume.

>>514037519
That would hurt them a lot. But would be russians and chinese allow full NATO control of the staits. I doubt it. To topple Turkey you need to destroy it from within not by force. And thats much more easily done than directly attacking them and unifying them for a common cause.
Destroy their economy completely, rile up the kurds and give them weapons and watch it all come down.
No need for any large scale campaign. And US, UK, France navy blockating them from any retaliatory actions against Greece or others.
>FIN

>>514037836
After WW1 Turks told the Soviets they were thinking of joining the Soviet union. At the same time they told Europeans they'd be a great bulwark against communism.

>>514037535
You are their greatest ally :p

>>514038036
I don’t think China would really give a shit if Greece took control of the straights. If anything they would probably be happy that there was another general European land war. Russia can bitch and moan all they want but the straights have been in NATO hands since Turkey joined NATO. Russia hasn’t been able to have any commercial or military ships pass through the straights since they invaded Ukraine. Russia also isn’t exactly known for their naval prowess so any attempt to exert control or influence in that area would lead to what remains of the Black Sea fleet joining the Moscow on the bottom of the Black Sea.

>>514037836
It was a a joke

>>514030905 (OP)

Is such scenario Greece would not be alone.

It is not a desireable scenario for anyone but Europe Is ready to the eventuality.

For instace the reason why Italy has so many ships with anti submarine capabilities is because Ankara has invested in sub technology.

>>514031329
This. Stop the kikening.

>>514030905 (OP)
>Turkey says Turkey is great
This is newsworthy?

>>514031248
Uhmmm sweaty.. İt is called "İstanbul".

>>514040141
I am confused
Are Italians more like Greeks or Turks
Can you three tell each other apart
I hope you naval ships are better than Riva or San Lorenzo

>>514040829
Its schrödinger's white man
If the topic is about hating turks, south europeans are white. Else, they are filthy shitskins. Get with the times.

>>514040829

On averange we are very similar.

>>514030905 (OP)
Are the Turkish the true inheritors of the Rome empire?
no time wasters please

>>514030905 (OP)
Greece should arm the Kurds.

>>514041063
>If the topic is about hating turks, south europeans are white. Else, they are filthy shitskins. Get with the times.
Doesn't matter. What distinguishes you from us is central asian admixture, and while it's quite low percentage wise, we can see it in your faces, most of the time at least.

>>514041063

I never thought the problem with Turkey is racial, not at all.

The thing that screwed you and us Is that constantinople fell. If you guys were able to hold and win Anatolia the entire center of Europe and the west would have been in your area. (Till the rise of USA)

Germany UK would have been much less relevant.

>>514041476
Some dude says turks are greeks, the other says turks are arabs, the other says they are jews, the other says they are baby eating aliens.
Its just all flimsy rationalizations.
You hate them, you dont need to rationalize, its fine, used to it at this point.

>>514042141
Turks are steppe niggers mixed with whites. If they weren't Islamic I doubt anyone would consider them less European than Hungarians.

>>514042141
you are roaches and not human
why a greek is giving you the respect befiting a human (which you are not) is baffling

>>514033334
>left alone, Greece doesnt stand a chance in the world
Good thing they dont stand alone
>Europe and the US wouldnt allow it. Israel would also not let that chance slip away and bomb them as well
Is this a bad thing?