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Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514037258 >>514037405 >>514037533 >>514037558 >>514037592 >>514038569 >>514038706 >>514038745 >>514038845 >>514038909 >>514040112 >>514040349 >>514040654 >>514040685 >>514041041 >>514047698 >>514050929 >>514052799 >>514054620 >>514055804 >>514056615 >>514060843
If Christianity is monotheism then why are you waiting for a second messiah?
Anonymous (ID: duhyuDZD) Poland No.514037405
>>514037258 (OP)
retard
Anonymous (ID: n2wpu2ue) No.514037424 >>514038239 >>514038340 >>514038626
What the fuck is this. Think. Contemplate. Start deep ly thinking about the spiritual world. Then come back and talk. First remove the plank.
Anonymous (ID: ljX8OSRU) United States No.514037502
Christians are idolators and will burn in the lake of fire
Anonymous (ID: 3FSPT9aO) No.514037533
>>514037258 (OP)
To fuck shit up.
Anonymous (ID: X/QY2RQi) United States No.514037558 >>514050419
>>514037258 (OP)
I'm just waiting on my laundry to finish.
Anonymous (ID: YBBBvCrv) Canada No.514037559 >>514037917 >>514055896
>Atheists: Christianity is for retards
>Also atheists: Can't understand the Bible in the slightest

Stick to "superman but he's an asshole" graphic novels, that's more your level.
Anonymous (ID: IKQzaScE) United States No.514037592 >>514037971
>>514037258 (OP)
Harrison Ford was one of the more painful nooticings of my life.
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514037917 >>514038007 >>514039268 >>514040654
>>514037559
I'm not an atheist, but I have found a very inconvenient error in your doctrine. What do you call a religion with 2 sky daddies
Anonymous (ID: MT/gXKBs) Australia No.514037971 >>514038531
>>514037592
daniel day lewis?
Anonymous (ID: 3FSPT9aO) No.514038007 >>514038389
>>514037917
There is only 1 supreme Absolute.
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514038239
>>514037424
anon I want to focus on just this one thing. Monotheism implies a very specific number that is not is not represented by any of these Abrahamic faiths and this is very simple to prove. There really can be only 1 monotheism, which mean, it just is and it is not speculation or a debate. Monotheism can only be 1 thing. It can only be what is. The actual thing. If you try to add any extra stories to this or name it after your daddy is is obviously erroneous.

Whats the problem just fix it
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514038340
>>514037424
anon I want to focus on just this one thing. Monotheism implies a very specific number that is not represented by any of these Abrahamic faiths. This is very simple to prove. There really can be only 1 monotheism, which means, it just is and it is not speculation or a debate. Monotheism can only be 1 thing. It can only be what is. The actual thing. If you try to add any extra stories to this or name it after your daddy is is obviously erroneous.

Whats the problem just fix it
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514038389 >>514038637
>>514038007
thank you! tell me more
Anonymous (ID: IKQzaScE) United States No.514038531
>>514037971
Oof, really?
Anonymous (ID: V5knJZO0) United States No.514038569
>>514037258 (OP)
Matthew 21:33–46
Mark 12:1–12
Luke 20:9–19

Long story short; God sends his son to the care takers and they murder him, so when he returns justice will follow.

Landowner = God

Vineyard = Israel

Tenants = Religious leaders

Servants = Prophets

Son = Jesus

New tenants = Those who will bear fruit (often interpreted as the Church or faithful followers)
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514038626
>>514037424
if it is wrong you can just fix it right? Like we have made mistakes before and had to fix. So just fix this because its wrong. Or are you saying it can't be fixed if it is wrong? Because if it can't be fixed, and you cannot prove you are correct, then it was never correct in the first place.
Anonymous (ID: 3FSPT9aO) No.514038637 >>514038947
>>514038389
What are you curious about?
Anonymous (ID: dtDqGwhC) United States No.514038706 >>514038922 >>514039043 >>514039135 >>514039509
>>514037258 (OP)
1) Triune God.
2) Return of the Son of God, true God and True man.
Maybe you should, you know, read up on the faith so you can be a better shit poster
Anonymous (ID: 3XHLynN7) United States No.514038745 >>514039258 >>514039331
>>514037258 (OP)
It's more of a three-headed hydra monotheism with occasional visits from a divine rape baby who is also one of the heads. There used to be more influencers, I mean prophets, but that seems to have dried up of late. There is also a Satan for some reason. I think it's because the 3 headed god loves you. And giants and fallen angels and a guy named Yahweh who is clearly not The Father.
It's all pretty clear, innit?
Anonymous (ID: GF/zMVWN) Germany No.514038845
>>514037258 (OP)
so fucking stupid you must be either a nigger or an atheist
Anonymous (ID: 0KQr14cL) Germany No.514038909
>>514037258 (OP)
Because two is actually one, and also three. Or maybe some people are just to retarded to count.
Anonymous (ID: h8P3uqAD) Slovakia No.514038922
>>514038706
Stolen
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514038947 >>514039147 >>514039182 >>514041528 >>514052501 >>514057641
>>514038637
it appears something may be missing from your story or am I wrong.
Anonymous (ID: vqyJjPrZ) Italy No.514039039 >>514039247 >>514039380 >>514040456
if you asked Jesus himself about the doctrine of the Trinity, he would think you are retarded
Anonymous (ID: dtDqGwhC) United States No.514039043 >>514039454
>>514038706
Personally...
I would change the prayer for confession from "forgive me Father" to "forgive me Lord", the priest forgives sins in the name of the Lord. Another interpretation would turn out that the Priest is forgiving sins... Maybe that's right.
And I would change the grace before meals to "bless us God the Father Almighty" from "Bless us Oh Lord" because all material things were created by God the Father. Jesus did miracles in his Father's name... so yeah.
And the Hail Holy Queen? Yeah, ditch that for being against the council of Trent.
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514039135 >>514039434
>>514038706
>True man
tell me more. Show me a good example of an upright ape, or did you have something else in mind
Anonymous (ID: 3FSPT9aO) No.514039147 >>514039613
>>514038947
What the fuck is my story?
Anonymous (ID: o5h+X+Pi) United States No.514039163 >>514039642 >>514040277 >>514059125
Christianity is not monotheism, it's idol worship. Explain to me why you HAVE TO have faith in Jesus. Why can't you just believe in God and be a good person.

Christianity is specifically a gay conspiracy. Jesus was asexual, that is one of the groupings under LGBTQ.

The best thing to do is to renounce Jesus. Don't do it publicly, but in your heart know of Jesus' criminality. Not having Jesus in your life will set you free.
Anonymous (ID: qwJX/8lh) United States No.514039179
Don't know. I was looking for the verse in the bible where Jesus said "hey you know those guys who are getting me killed? Yeah the synagogue of Satan? Definitely help them later. Yeah help them bring a bizzaro version of me that's evil." I can't find it anywhere but it must exist, these people claim to be Christians
Anonymous (ID: dtDqGwhC) United States No.514039182
>>514038947
It's appears you're a smug ass git who thinks others can read your mind because you don't stay stupid things out loud.
Anonymous (ID: dtDqGwhC) United States No.514039247
>>514039039
>i speak for Jesus.
Uh... you need to get that checked professionally
There's only one man who can do that, and there's not been one for 100 years.
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514039258 >>514039767
>>514038745
so clear I could have invented it myself
Anonymous (ID: SH+UvH4z) United States No.514039268 >>514039944
>>514037917
>the second coming of christ
>christ was here, left, and will come again
>this means there's 2 Christs
Wow, you have the reading comprehension of a black child, which is to say you don't know how to read.
Anonymous (ID: SH+UvH4z) United States No.514039331 >>514039560
>>514038745
Nice fedora! Did you get it when you failed your reading comprehension class?
Anonymous (ID: SH+UvH4z) United States No.514039380 >>514039999
>>514039039
Pretty sure Jesus is the one who spoke of the trinity, so you're dumb.
Anonymous (ID: dtDqGwhC) United States No.514039434 >>514043511
>>514039135
True Human soul.
God the Father almighty made every creature on the earth.. but Adam and Eve were made "In God's image". God the Father is a spirit and has no body. The human soul was what was created. and put in Adam and Eve.
Pretty clear that there were other people of the same species e.g. wives of Seth etc, and it was forbidden to lie with the two legged beast.
Anonymous (ID: 3XHLynN7) United States No.514039454 >>514039875
>>514039043
>god can't hear your if you pray wrong
I went to the races this weekend and the invocation was such grovelling it really put me off. In less than a minute th eguy said Father a hundred times. And every time in that sugary sweet TV preacher voice.
But no one died, so I guess God heard him.
Anonymous (ID: ECZxUDK4) Slovakia No.514039509
>>514038706
literally the first sentence
>there is certainly only one god and creator, the god of israel
aaand into the trash it goes
Anonymous (ID: 3XHLynN7) United States No.514039560 >>514039760
>>514039331
>i know what it says because the lady pastor told me what it says
I am he who is sans fedora, faggot
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514039613 >>514039686 >>514040137
>>514039147
I just assume you follow the standard catholic doctrine in the modern era. Do you know who that is? Do you know what you are looking at?
Anonymous (ID: wHj8DHC/) Brazil No.514039642
>>514039163
Anonymous (ID: 4MDZdSfm) Chile No.514039686 >>514041113
>>514039613
Viracocha
Anonymous (ID: SH+UvH4z) United States No.514039760 >>514040080
>>514039560
>lady pastor
Yeah no. I read the Bible. It's literally that easy. Nice try tho. It explains it pretty clearly in the Bible. Maybe you should actually read it before making opinions on its contents based in conjecture and heresy, retard.
Anonymous (ID: dtDqGwhC) United States No.514039767 >>514041023
>>514039258
You know, you remind me of the techs who used to work my engineering orders.
Some of them wanted it explained. I'm not going to go over all the engineering details in my engineering orders, it would take all day and most of them don't have the background for it.
Jesus said come to him as little children. That verse gets twisted a lot... The age of reason was a debacle because they applied logic on a set of flawed human premises and got 2000+ different answers because mortals don't understand what God can do.
Example: the whole idea of purgatory was "logic" because they couldn't understand the idea of a one soul going to heaven and another soul going to hell when the difference between the two appeared to be slight. That was because they didn't understand that God could strip away the "chaff" from your soul. Matthew 3:12
Anonymous (ID: dtDqGwhC) United States No.514039875
>>514039454
Not how it works.
You pray that those that die chose the Lord as their savior. Otherwise, they're weeds planted by Satan.
And don't confuse Protestants (including the Novus Ordo) with Christians.
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514039944 >>514040378 >>514040686
>>514039268
Jesus is a personified deity who, according to the story, spoke to "God". There are multiple paradoxes here that collapses into something less than supreme absolutes. Also Supreme absolutes are easy to prove. No one has to die. You just need to be
Anonymous (ID: vqyJjPrZ) Italy No.514039999 >>514040686 >>514040686
>>514039380
well if he did, that teaching did not make it in the Bible, so how do you know?
Anonymous (ID: 3XHLynN7) United States No.514040080
>>514039760
I have read it. The first chapter is pretty great. God creates a garden. Then God realizes "oh shit, I shoulda made one like me". Except the "one like him" is all sad and lonely. So God is like "oh shit, he needs a buddy". So God creates the buddy, but it turns out she fucks around with the snake and then convinces the first guy to greak the one and only rule of God. Side note: why did God put a serpent in the Garden? Jesus says that Satan puts the tare in the field, but isn't Satan just a tare in the garden? Anyway....
The fist two make a couple of kids and the second one kills the first one.
4 people, a lonely guy, and deceptive whore, a dead guy, and a fratricider.

I know it can be hard to get past that part, but shortly thereafter they start cutting each other dicks and then the fun really ramps up.
Anonymous (ID: yAdEjfn0) United States No.514040112
>>514037258 (OP)
It's his return. You dumbass.

Going to be one helluva show.
Anonymous (ID: 3FSPT9aO) No.514040137
>>514039613
I literally worship Flandre as the supreme Absolute.
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514040277
>>514039163
>Explain to me why you HAVE TO have faith in Jesus
I would if he was the king
>Why can't you just believe in God and be a good person
I believe that is what the king would say. In-fact he would probably make it a law. Like a very simple short list of rules to demonstrate.
>The best thing to do is to renounce Jesus
why would I do that if you just got the wrong instructions. I don't think you even need a teacher. Seems like you know enough
Anonymous (ID: iNoJYJSA) No.514040294
>monotheism
FALSE christianity is polytheism. Every jew is divine in their religion - gods chosen people.
Anonymous (ID: 4nqm4qO4) Germany No.514040349
>>514037258 (OP)
What are you talking about? second Messiah. There is only one Messiah in Christianity, Jesus Christ.
Why are anti-Christs so stupid all the time? Can you not just be not-Christian without trashtalking and misrepresenting (only) Christ all the time? can you not just be happy with your godless lifestyle and don't care that other people believe in God? Why do you want everyone to be as stupid as you are?
Anonymous (ID: dtDqGwhC) United States No.514040378 >>514041316
>>514039944
Jesus is also called "The Word of God".
Burning Bush that spoke to Moses? God the Son, the Word of God.

Anyway, you know how The Son of God spoke in parables? The Threshing of the wheat, the wedding story? Parables to teach us an idea.
The Synagogue of Satan and their golems, after hearing the parable of the Tortuous and the Hare, would bitch how absurd it is that there are talking Turtles and rabbits and completely miss the truth of the parable.
Anonymous (ID: iNoJYJSA) No.514040456
>>514039039
ask anyone about the 90% of stories in the bible and people would roll their eyes if you didnt tell them its from the jew book
Anonymous (ID: w76nh8VJ) No.514040654 >>514041528 >>514041722
>>514037258 (OP)
>second messiah
You mean islam

>>514037917
>sky daddies
>not an athiest
Then what are you?
Anonymous (ID: Rdnrfq2Z) United Kingdom No.514040685
>>514037258 (OP)
The lord God can take many forms.
Anonymous (ID: SH+UvH4z) United States No.514040686 >>514040906 >>514042467
>>514039944
>Jesus is a personified deity who, according to the story, spoke to "God".
Yeah, the Son spoke to the Father.
>there are multiple paradoxes here that collapses into something less than supreme absolutes. Also Supreme absolutes are easy to prove. No one has to die. You just need to be.
Listen to you, a human, pretending to know the workings of the divine, thinking that immortality of the flesh is the best state of being when we are aware of the metaphysical. Surely you know better than the great logic force that dictates the mechanisms of the universe.
>>514039999
He literally mentions he is the Son and is God, that he has a Father who is also God. Then Jesus baptises in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. It's in Matthew. The trinity is also first mentioned ambiguously in genesis. You should read more.
>>514039999
Imagine taking foundation myth as literal. Couldn't be me
>b-but you have to believe it word for word because it's your belief
Yeah tell me what my beliefs are. Also, biblical scholars are aware that genesis isn't to be taken literally. It isn't anything new or groundbreaking to say that genesis can't have happened literally. Nice fedora tho! Really, it accents your F in reading comprehension very nicely!
Anonymous (ID: 3XHLynN7) United States No.514040906 >>514054170
>>514040686
>Listen to you, a human, pretending to know the workings of the divine
pot, kettle
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514041023
>>514039767
okay let me put it this way the. A supreme absolute has an absolute value. We should interpret this as only one possible thing which can only be the actual thing. Since there is only one it should all be quite obvious and no debate or speculation is needed. It just is, and if it is not then it's just not the thing.

So clearly, to no surprise, every swinging dick has tried to alter this to their political advantage, or perhaps the information was just forgotten
Anonymous (ID: 6V3xwlsr) Germany No.514041041 >>514043047
>>514037258 (OP)
Technically Christianity and all the rest of the abrahamic stuff are only monetheistic in their believe. The religions themselves state, that there are other gods, they just don't believe in them. It is therefore very simple to see, that even though Jesus is the Messiah of Christianity, he is not the god the religion believes then. Therefore waiting for another messiah is not an issue at all, there could be many messiah's and even gods, Christians would just choose not to believe in them.
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514041113
>>514039686
interesting. I hear the incas were skilled social planners
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514041316
>>514040378
yes I believe that may be part of the problem. There definitely is a problem and we cannot ignore it and just continue shitposting about the wrong one.
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514041528
>>514040654
>You mean islam
I would be inclined to agree but not if we call it monotheism. However I know there is a monotheism and I can prove it, but I cannot find any record of these particular prophets.

Lets just start with the one prophet we know existed. that there>>514038947
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514041722
>>514040654
>Then what are you?
an upright ape. just an animal passing by
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514042467 >>514047436
>>514040686
>Surely you know better than the great logic force that dictates the mechanisms of the universe
yeah. everyone around me knows everything
>the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit
I am talking about a supreme absolute that can only be one thing, because that is what it is, and that is monotheism.

Let me sell you on monotheism. It is actually a good idea and quite useful for large complex social systems. It is a statement of proof itself. Any object that is a whole must be an actual value. The fact that it has an absolute value is how we prove it. Because a supreme absolute can only be what it is and that is one thing. You cannot observe a whole, you can only observe the parts which make the whole but we still know what it is because it has only one value. If this is true then whatever you are practicing is not monotheism. You can still do monotheism with Jesus but they can't be the same if you can sit there and talk to him. that's not what it is
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514043047 >>514047954
>>514041041
If my belief was just a belief like the christian belief then there would be no problem. The problem is that my belief is no different than what is actually existing and I appreciate all of the magic that can be found in that actual state. My faith is more like trust; that if I observe something that can only be what it is then it must be that thing even when it does not appear to be. We have a few numbers like this and we call them transcendental. I trust they will be the same tomorrow but not Christianity
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514043511
>>514039434
Yeah I appreciate these stories as much as you do but we are talking about monotheism. So by the very definition of that form it must reflect what is actually occurring according to your understanding but you don't seem to be sure enough to confirm that
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514044128
Well I sure hope this gets fixed before the shit hits the fan. Whoever does it would have to be a king tho. like an actual king. like the real one, and that can only be one thing. I don't know where you are going to find that. good luck niggers lolollolllll. I hope you can swim
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514044391
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514045206
I think this may have happened before. It's okay just be real
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514046891 >>514047004
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514047004
>>514046891
it is the religious who deny the very existence of the religious world, and by that extent the actual world
Anonymous (ID: SH+UvH4z) United States No.514047436 >>514048199
>>514042467
Christianity is monotheism, you dink. The 3 persons are 1 God. Ethos, pathos, logos all make up the force that dictates the universe. All three are distinctly different, yet all are the same in that they are all what moves the universe. Three essences, one force. That's what it means by the trinity. If I say I worship the son then I simultaneously am saying i worship the father and the spirit.
Anonymous (ID: IZyJ+8Bp) Germany No.514047698
>>514037258 (OP)
i want to see some magic tricks
Anonymous (ID: 6V3xwlsr) Germany No.514047954 >>514048810 >>514049523 >>514050664
>>514043047
If your control is based on your perception, being deceived or living in an illusion becomes a possibility. The transcendental numbers are great, an infinity without repetition and some are even connected, beginning inside each other and running along or being expressible by one and another. Even though well defined, they are full of surprises. Christianity is a different type of concept, because it changes with your mind and your experiences, that is not a disadvantage of it.
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514048199 >>514049208
>>514047436
>God
I don't use this word, but to be sure we are talking about the same thing, will you confirm you are speaking about the 1 supreme absolute? Because what you are saying can only be understood as an abstraction which cannot be 1, supreme, or absolute. Perhaps it is something else like a wizard or priest idk just confirm it for me
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514048810 >>514050388
>>514047954
>If your control is based on your perception
as a principal I understand that behavior is the control of perception. (picrel)
>living in an illusion becomes a possibility
this is true and I share that concern. in-fact that is the purpose of this thread. I can prove there is only 1 supreme absolute but I didn't learn it from attending church unfortunately.
Anonymous (ID: SH+UvH4z) United States No.514049208 >>514049934 >>514050045
>>514048199
"God" is the colloquial term for the Supreme force that governs the universe. "God" is one force while simultaneously being 3 forces within that one force. The Greeks understood this, the ancient Hindus understood this. Idk why you're against using colloquialisms. You can always explain it assuming you have the capacity to do, which you probably might given the fact you are aware that the Supreme force that governs the physical and metaphysical, normal and paranormal, natural and supernatural, exists and permeates through out all that exists. None of what I said just know is heresy in regards to the Christian faith, as such, I will continue to refer to the Supreme force as "God".
>But the word "god" is from the viking root word blah blah blah
Yes. I know. Hence me saying "colloquialism".
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514049523
>>514047954
>it changes with your mind and your experiences
progressive. I just want to be and that why I chose monotheism over the abrahamic faith. Something about it may be good but it is literally just not the one. Like I feel good being around people but I would not recommend operating an empire with those instructions. It would probably collapse
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514049934 >>514051826
>>514049208
>I will continue to refer to the Supreme force as "God".
>"God" is one force while simultaneously being 3 forces within that one force.
okay then let us speculate upon some examples of what you might expect after running that simulation. Let me ask you, can you divide an King into 3 parts. How is that working out for you now? Where is your leader!

What you just described is some kind of Chaldean wet dream and idk if I am cool with that rn
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514050045
>>514049208
>I will continue to refer to the Supreme force as "God"
Anonymous (ID: 6V3xwlsr) Germany No.514050388 >>514051392 >>514051392
>>514048810
An absolute supreme or infinity norm is the biggest possible value and being a supremum must not even be contained on the inside sure. Still as a norm it yield some positive value, which differs where it is applied to. So there is in fact only one supreme absolute per... yet in the ether of everything there are infinitely many.
You aren't a jeet btw?
Anonymous (ID: gQwi4fSm) Argentina No.514050419
>>514037558
this, only heretics wait for the coming of the messiah
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514050664
>>514047954
let me explain. Monotheism provides an important function for complex social systems where it's interior (leadership) is a reduction of complexity (order). It is therefor impossible for you to know the name of your leader unless you are practicing actual monotheism.
Anonymous (ID: 0A0HemEu) United States No.514050929 >>514051912
>>514037258 (OP)
Jesus wasn't originally divine. They added that part later on in John and the fake letters of Paul so Christians could skirt around disobeying the First Commandment.
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514051392 >>514051982 >>514052733
>>514050388
>An absolute supreme or infinity norm is the biggest possible value
this is an error. an infinite value represents a limit in observation. A supreme absolute would be transcendental which is different. The transcendental value is an actual representation of the proportions of nature being observed. Pi therefore is what it actually is rather than any string of n umbers you can remember.
>yet in the ether of everything there are infinitely many
you can only chose to be. not being is not a choice unless something changes in the absence of input


>>514050388
>You aren't a jeet btw?
no
Anonymous (ID: SH+UvH4z) United States No.514051826 >>514052501 >>514053020
>>514049934
You are seeing the Supreme being through eyes of man and claiming "it can't be the Supreme being because it doesn't make sense to my preconceived notions". That is your failure. It's not like it hasn't be thought out before, because like I said earlier, the ancient Greeks and the ancient Hindus were able to conceive of 3 beings into 1 being.

God the father is the Supreme being manifested as natural logic. Action and consequence.
God the Son is the Supreme being manifested as the Human Condition. Suffering the lows, experiencing the highs, and returned to the baseline while being physically mortal but simultaneously being metaphysically immortal to others.
God the Spirit the the Supreme being manifested as emotion and metaphysical force that drives life to march forward and persist, in a word "willpower". The supernatural within the natural and the spark of the divine within sentient life. This is what allows great acts and due to the very nature of "being" the absence of "being" exists as well, hence the potential for terrible acts.

The fact you keep saying "monotheism" and "Abrahamic" means you don't actually understand what Christ was talking about and only view his teachings through the semantic lens while ignoring the content of his messages. While it is extremely important to understand the historical context of Christ and the prophecies he fulfilled, it's is just as important to be able to look at his teaches objectively and understand them. You deny this because you can't fanthom that a Supreme Being would act in a way that's beyond your immediate comprehension, which is silly because other before you have already meditated on the matter and have been able to express these concepts and ideas through their writings. You are balking at the idea that something exists that explains this because of closed off your mind is.
I would suggest reading Thomas Aquinas but you'll probably say "no that is based in Abrahamic faith."
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514051912
>>514050929
>skirt around disobeying the First Commandment.
I think the instinct to personify the leader of their religion may have been the correct instinct if only it would have actually occurred that way
Anonymous (ID: SH+UvH4z) United States No.514051982 >>514052595
>>514051392
>an infinite value represents a limit in observation
Wrong. You directly contradict yourself. Infinite has no limit, regardless of observation. If it has limit, it isn't infinite.
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514052501 >>514054515
>>514051826
>You are seeing the Supreme being through eyes of man and claiming "it can't be the Supreme being because it doesn't make sense to my preconceived notions"
you have misunderstood me. I am using pure logic to find an error, but I did not define a supreme absolute. I did not even name it, but you did. I did not claim to know. I said everyone around me knows everything.
>the ancient Greeks and the ancient Hindus were able to conceive of 3 beings into 1 being.
this does not boost my confidence

what about this guy?>>514038947
what did he say?
where is the statue of your prophet?
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514052595 >>514054515
>>514051982
how many are there in this image?
Anonymous (ID: 6V3xwlsr) Germany No.514052733 >>514053940
>>514051392
Not infinite value, its called infinite norm in German and is a supreme absolute, but the English translation is uniform norm. You can think of it as making a great square from circle. It operates on bounded things only. A norm can reduce a higher dimensional space to a single number, which can even be a transcendental number. It is some sort of distance in a way.
My point is, you can apply a norm to anything and receive some number, for the uniform norm or absolute supremum many things yield the same number it is true, yet infinity many things yield a different number. This easily shows, there are infinitely many absolute supremes.
Anonymous (ID: /23Dgyfk) Italy No.514052799 >>514053940
>>514037258 (OP)
Don't forget that jesus on the cross said "father forgive them because they don't know what they do" when he could easily say "I forgive you"
Btw that story is an huge bullshit because Romans use to let the bodies rotten on the cross and don't let them remove, and from what we know, Pontius was not a "i wash my hands "guy
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514053020 >>514054077 >>514054689
>>514051826
>You deny this because you can't fanthom that a Supreme Being would act in a way that's beyond your immediate comprehension
no I deny this. It is exactly the thing I hope for. Something is missing here. I don't claim to know precisely
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514053940 >>514055726
>>514052799
thanks it was covered briefly
>>514052733
It seems like you have accomplished this only by providing a value yourself to the supreme absolute prior to attempting to define it. Of course, under these conditions anything goes and there are infinity many. With this you have only actually defined the infinite iterations of Christianity
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514054077
>>514053020
*not
Anonymous (ID: SH+UvH4z) United States No.514054170
>>514040906
I dont know the workings, i do not pretend to know the workings. I know only what I have observed, and what I have observed has told me that there is a Divine Supreme being.
Anonymous (ID: SH+UvH4z) United States No.514054515 >>514055219
>>514052501
You tried to sell me on monotheism in your own words, so you already have a preconceived idea of a single Supreme Being. There doesn't need to be a statue of a prophet. In Christianity there are plenty, but there doesn't need to be one. I don't really care if there is or not, if the information made available to me makes sense compared to what I have observed.
>>514052595
How many what? Doesn't really matter, because that isn't infinite. I am aware of the cage it finds itself in, and I am aware of its limitations for sure. I know it can't go on ad infinitum because it has an observable limit.
Anonymous (ID: +hEk3t78) United States No.514054620 >>514056259
>>514037258 (OP)
Believe it or not, but there is not a single verse in the entire Bible that specifically calls the Jews or the tribe of Judah God’s chosen people. This misconception comes from the fact that the Jews of today have declared themselves to be Israel and not the house of Judah, as the Scriptures rightfully call them.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220526080336/https://gottmituns.com/what-is-a-jew/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT_RUdBTlp4
Anonymous (ID: SH+UvH4z) United States No.514054689 >>514056259
>>514053020
Read the Bible. I'm serious. I'm not preaching it, I'm saying read it for yourself. Understand that the OT is purely set up for the Gospels. With that in mind, read Thomas Aquinas as well.

Then, consider the ancient Greek philosophical explanations of pathos, ethos, and logos. Consider the Buddha and his take on the human condition. Find the repeating themes in all of these works.
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514055219
>>514054515
Just to clarify I was not pointing at the statue as a statue, but at the actual leader that it represents, who we know was a real person who appeared exactly as presented. Sorry for the confusion. We can talk about why there must be a leader and why hierarchy is essential to this topic but I will assume you know.
>here doesn't need to be a statue of a prophet. In Christianity there are plenty, but there doesn't need to be one
then what is the purpose? and where is it at!
Anonymous (ID: v1rbskvE) Finland No.514055461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbHKwlg2o90
Anonymous (ID: 6V3xwlsr) Germany No.514055726
>>514053940
Not a value, a mathematical tool the sup norm. Yes it is irritatingly similar to the many instances of Christianity and even more to the perception of every deciple, each of them assigning their own value, some the same some different. Technically infinite possibilities of strict and absolute finite interpretation. It is the ground truth.
Anonymous (ID: DpuNdHSt) United States No.514055804
>>514037258 (OP)
>If Christianity is monotheism
It is
>then why are you waiting for a second messiah?
Christians are not waiting for a "2nd" messiah.
There are multiple messiahs in the Old Testament. One was the pagan king Cyrus from Persia that God designated as a messiah, interestingly. Most people don't realize that.

What are you talking about?
Anonymous (ID: RfU5jBA1) United States No.514055896
>>514037559
>>I like when the pictures make purddy.
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514056259
>>514054689
>Find the repeating themes in all of these works.
probably is "know thyself"

your input was informative but I will have to go soon

>>514054620
yes but I would suggest if you are attempting to prove this or 'make it known', It is somewhat futile to use the materials being examined as proof or disproof. So we have to use the 1 thing absent from this discussion that we know cannot be discarded.
Anonymous (ID: xdsp3f/5) United States No.514056615
>>514037258 (OP)
Why did a Jewish director acknowledge the miracle of Christ????
Anonymous (ID: rQkTP0nh) United States No.514057641
>>514038947
kinda interesting there is this super erect big booty primate walking around claiming there can only be one religion but he's also like the pharaoh simultaneously at the height of the Egyptian empire before the bronze age collapse and then he just mysteriously erased from history and not even pol will talk about him. I want to be his fren
https://youtu.be/0JoPB_Q2T0k?
Anonymous (ID: RvYzfzy0) United States No.514059125
>>514039163
>Why can't you just believe in God and be a good person.
From a Gnostic Christian point of view, this is totally misunderstanding the point. You're looking at this from the point of view of "some super powerful space alien (God) is going to judge my actions and determine my afterlife".

The reality is this: you are in Hell right now. This "blue marble" you inhabit? This is Hell. And the leader of Hell is Satan. We Gnostics call him Yaldabaoth, and he's the same guy as the Old Testament God, but that's besides the point. The point is it was never about being a good person. Sin isn't you committing a crime against the true God and disqualifying yourself from heaven. Sin is you tying a chain around your waist and binding yourself to the blue marble. "Oh man I love this Hell world that Yaldabaoth made for me! There's sex and tasty food and riches to be made. Who cares if there's death and pestilence and disease?" That's what you sound like.

When the Bible tells you to trust in Christ, it is saying "What He is saying may sound insane if you have only known the material, but you have to trust the plan if you don't want to come back to this shithole".
Anonymous (ID: D0x7NRNH) United States No.514060843
>>514037258 (OP)
Peace is articulation.
It is perfect faith.
If we can't be perfect, perhaps a Messiah can be acceptable to who is.
All those who have faith in the Lord and by way of the Messiah his shepherding to know God.
It would be acceptable to house all the in Christ's name.
The same as a king is responsible.

God gave us this notion.
This tick toward the right direction if we can't figure out his intelligent design.
Because science and wisdom are discovery.
Honestly it isn't even complicated to find verifiable proof.
It's just hard to get people to understand.

It's someone that sat there and for whatever reason thought about the working mechanisms of life and death.
To then bring other people up to speed is hard.
That's what articulation is though.
A lie is just trash. Contention for the sake of body anyway/contrast to mature our souls.

All is wisdom a lesson between right and wrong.
That bite of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil is cognizance that is consideration over life and death and our human understanding in judgment over these building blocks of wisdom the seven sins and the opposite.
The seven sins are all pride.
They are the most nuanced pride can be at the fundamental level.
Naturally there is equal and opposite exchange.

Anyway I'm kinding going off on a tangent
The answer is long
Articulation would be making that simple
But here some word soup to contend

I'm tired and I love you friends
We are all human
Love is self sacrifice
It is quite literally forced.
It's give and get a blessing and a curse
To tolerate someone is to love them
To get your shoes on and go out into the cold