Thread 514058827

>>514058827 (OP)
he's legit retarded

>>514058827 (OP)
HOW ABOUT DRIVE THE CAR YOURSELVES YOU FUCKING STUPID LOW IQ LAZY FUCKING NIGGER SUBHUMANS

>>514058827 (OP)
He's the same guy that believes DJI style consumer drones will replace stealth fighters and believes you can defeat stealth aircraft with optical tracking.
Yes he is incredibly retarded.

he is a snake oil merchant. the moment the grift ends tesla is worth literally 0

>>514058827 (OP)

He's coping since he didn't go with the superior LiDAR option.

>>514058827 (OP)
idk , i dont know the details about the specific engeneering problem he is talking about but i think those autonomous systems must be designed like aircraft with several redundancies just in case a system malfunction you have another one to fall back to, i dont really think putting all your safety into a single system is the correct choice but im not the richest man in the world so what the fuck do i know.
op is a faggot

>>514059071
>you can defeat stealth aircraft with optical tracking.
Why wouldn't it work in clear weather conditions? Basic optical tracking is last century tech, imagine what can be done with modern technology. Militaries are definitely working on it, they just don't wont you to know obviously

>>514059071
China is already defeating stealth with optical tracking. So is everyone else except Russia because they are incompetent.

Joe Rogan's car has a gaydar installed

That's it... that's the post..

>>514058957
No he is not super retarded. The one is about a quick look and a chance to win, the oner method needs more time and a few more algorithms but do the job more precise.
Want an simple example? Remember the good old webcam times? Good. Now think of today. Now back to the webcam. It's super fast to recognise there's a woman on the other side of the cam. Super. Fast. Hair. Body type. Face.
Now, we want a system that can regocnice the difference between a man that mimics a woman (on said camera) and an actual woman. So the difference is seconds to milliseconds but enough for some death in traffic. I don't think you know what lidar can do. I think you know what cams can do. But they are dumb. Elon didn't invested in a team inventing own algorithms for lidar/radar and so his only tool is the cam. He will change. He has to. Even if you don't know or are to arrogant you have to consider the pros of a radar to a cam. And lidae is in general on another level. Sorry. He is wrong. He made mistakes, miscalculated and that's it. He will change that but he did mistakes. And oyu fanboy will be alive to see it.

>>514058827 (OP)
His whole background is fake. The further you are up the chain of command at a company, the more shit you can get away with, because there are fewer people that can fire you. There's a reason why he did a hostile takeover of Tesla (and made sure his brother was on the board). It's so that when there are giant flops like the Cybertrunk or there's another failed venture like Solarcity he can just use his position to benefit himself and nobody can really do shit because it's only the board that can fire him, and if you control the board, you can't be fired.

I think he's convinced that cameras are the best solution because someone told him that well humans have two cameras don't have anything like radar so it should be doable right. But this ignores the fact that humans have a very large part of our brain dedicated to vision, and then there are a bunch of "common sense" things built in, i.e. if we see notice the driver in front acting strange we might slow down.

The kind of processing capability in the cars isn't enough to replicate something like a visual cortex. And that's fine, it doesn't have to be as smart. But where it lacks in smarts, the sensors do a good job of compensating. That's why the other companies use them. They're also dead simple to understand and test (i.e. if the vehicle is moving and there is an object that appears in front of the path of the car on radar then just slam the brakes). Such simple systems can even react pretty fast too (latency matters at high speeds).

I think even if we get to some crazy level of compute in the cars, people will still want simple systems like this because they're not as complex as a GPU, fewer points of failure and we may even see them mandated as like an emergency fallback (if there's a fault with the main chip while on the highway this simple system will still work until you get exit the highway).

Yeah he's fucking retarded.
>camera says you're fine
>radar says you're about to crash into another car
WE BETTER TURN OFF RADARS, WE DON'T WANT CONFLICTING SIGNALS

>>514058827 (OP)
I mean, what he's saying makes some sense, humans don't need lidar to drive.

Lidar could come in handy if it were to surpass human driving, with super human driving capabilities, but since we're not there yet, it's 100% overkill.

At this point Tesla will win the FSD race because their AI is simpler, thus being cheaper and more scalable.

>>514058957
hes making up bullshit, they didn't get the radar to work duh
an excuse why the car is less safe in musk babble

>>514061018
>I mean, what he's saying makes some sense, humans don't need lidar to drive.
AI is not a synthetic human, so no it does not make sense that sensor fusion with more sensors is somehow worse.

>>514058827 (OP)
He's a very special boy, he's mommy's special boy!

>>514060991
radar is the broad safety check, I bet they had false positives stopping the car "unnecessary" thats the only explanation in how I can parse the musk babble logical
>>514061117

>>514061018
The human brain evolved eyes, ears and touch to estimate object location. It averages all the incoming signals for a more accurate picture. If Elon was right, why would aircraft combine radar, IRST and other passive sensors to estimate object location?

>>514061310
I would trust a radar over AI image processing from a camera any time.

>>514058827 (OP)
any time elon tweets anything other than "wow" one of his 26 whores said no to some really creative sexy bullshit

>>514061117
radar is not perfect. it can cause false positives due to bouncing off other surfaces (reflection). have you ever used a radar detector in a car before? you'd learn pretty quick that shit isn't just "magic".

>>514058827 (OP)
None of you retards have ever even recalibrated ADAS and it shows

>>514059649
jews think he could be the messiah, they are dumping money into his projects in hopes they can claim mars.

>>514061489
but it gave them false positives stopping the car "unnecessary" best consistent answer I got
if somebody has a better way to parse the elon babble I'm willing to hear it

>>514061611
fits my explanation for the elon babble

>>514058827 (OP)
>what is sensor fusion
fucking pseud

>>514060403
How you're going to optically track a black steal plane at night Pjotr?

>>514061477
>why would aircraft combine radar, IRST and other passive sensors to estimate object location?
again, totally overkill for just regular civil driving.

>>514061310
>I bet they had false positives stopping the car
There's a reason why the Waymo cars put radar on the roof, it's because with radar or lidar you can get cases where things reflect, so front sensor might freak out thinking there's an object, but the roof will disagree it's at a different position and can see a broader range around the car. It won't be as detailed but that's fine, you're just using it to corroborate the other sensors.

>>514061938
>again, totally overkill for just regular civil driving.
Driving a car is way more dangerous than driving a plane, you fucking brown retard.

>>514061938
You can say that but Waymo is the only real player with self driving taxis on the road rn while Tesla is still 2 more weeks away.

>>514058827 (OP)
I don't give a shit about Tesla. He doesn't stand with Ukraine, it is enough for me to consider him the messiah.

>>514058827 (OP)
There's nothing wrong with lacking LiDAR. It simply means your sensors don't pick up photons with a wavelength of between 905 nm and 1550 nm. Lack of photons is nothing to worry about. Teslas aren't afraid of a lack of photons. And neither is Elon

>>514059649
it's starting to appear more and more that way, he has more in common with Steve Jobs than Steve Wozniak, a brilliant businessman who stood on the shoulders of the actual "doers" of the magic

>>514061266
>it does not make sense that sensor fusion with more sensors is somehow worse.
it's not necessarily "worse", it's just more complex and less scalable.

>it's too hard to calibrate things properly
>let's just turn off one of our sensors, now there's no confusiong
>crashing noises
Musk really is an idiot at PR.

>>514062033
Cool, but can you buy a Waymo?

>>514061489
>I would trust a radar over AI image processing from a camera any time.
you realize the radar data is being fed into an AI right?

>>514061931
>in clear weather
There will be a detectable contrast, not to the human eye obviously but to a camera array on the ground or a camera on the missile. It will obviously be used in conjunction with heat seeking and radar.

>>514059784
Cameras have a higher ceiling to be much better than LIDAR. LIDAR is great because it's so simple- but the reality is its nearly peaked its potential now.

>>514059071
Fun fact, we already use optical tech in javelin to defeat armor. It's logical that an AI algorithm looking at the sky can detect sky movement and pass targeting data to other sensors or ADA systems.
Consumer drones have replaced CAS in Ukraine. RIP A10.


With all this said. I'm no Elon fan boy. But you've at least got to have credible arguments. His timelines are always fucked, gov subsidies inflate his stock and thus networth, Boring company is constantly stumbling, there's plenty to complain about Elon and you make yourself look retarded by not picking on it.

>>514058827 (OP)
im all for less junk radar on the road.
feels like my Escort needs an update every other month to filter all the junk radar new cars have.

>>514059046
serfs aren't allowed to drive

>>514061931
You set up cameras in multiple different places, accurately measure their positions and orientations and track each changing pixel for each camera. You then draw a line from the camera through the chaning pixel and where this line intersects in 3d space with the lines drawn by other cameras is the stealth fighter. Easier done during day but doable during night by either capturing wider ranges of wavelengths also outside of visible spectrum or just using an nvg camera and seeing where and when the plane obscures the background (stars etc).
There's a guy making diy proof of concept setups on a cheap sub $1000 budget and he is an undergrad i think, so imagine what could be developed with military budgets and more competent engineers.

https://youtu.be/zFiubdrJqqI

>>514058827 (OP)
No it makes perfect sense. A camera is passive. A lidar shoots out energy that might screw up sensors on other cars, say a reflection at an odd angle going into another car's lidar receiver and making it swerve or jam on brakes.

ITT: A bunch of retards who don't understand the limitations of LiDARs compared to using cameras and are only disagreeing with Elon because they don't like him for some reason.

>>514058827 (OP)
hes retroactive and rote regurgitant

backup parachutes shouldn't exist
it gives incentives to parachute makers to make their parachutes less safe
if you just have one parachute you will be safer because they will have to make it work better

>>514058827 (OP)
He is retarded, but he does this because his followers are even more retarded.

I worked at the german Gigafactory.
They have their own DEI programm and the vast majority of workers on the shop floor are muzzies and fugees, because they don't know their rights and introduce the asshole competition to the workplace.

The union, IG-Metall, by the way, other than the news coverage implies, actually are complicit with Teslas exploits.

Musks fans seem to believe he is on the side of the white westerners, but he is really just engaging in a political popularity contest in the same way the hot blonde from your high school was when she ran as a student representative.

In fact, there is an army of probably hundreds of millions of pajeets worshipping him as a god for no other reason than him being rich.
But to be fair, a lot of boomers are into the same line of thinking that he is somehow a genius because he is the richest man on the planet.

That he is so rich because it's them giving him his money doesn't appear to them.
You could (and in fact i have done that before) calculate the unfeasability of his proposed business ventures in front of their eyes, like the fact that an elctric semi truck would have to care over 30% of it's max load capacity as a battery or that humanoid robots don't make any sense in automating the vast majority of physical labour from a design standpoint alone.

The only answer you would get is that he is rich and therefore a genius and you are not and therefore this will somehow make Tesla money.

Well, it worked out pretty well for the "investors" of Tesla to be that kind of stupid and speculate on the stock, so...

>>514063475
>humanoid robots don't make any sense in automating the vast majority of physical labour from a design standpoint alone.
could you elaborate more?

>>514058827 (OP)
The simple nature of camera based self driving systems improve predictability with regards to behavior and evolution. More sensors of different kinds might lead to an introduction of unwanted noise without higher safety. Humans are able to drive with mostly vision based sensors, and we only have two in the middle of our heads, whereas Teslas have cameras all around the car working in a coordinated manner. In the end, what matters are the results which is why it would be dumb on a legal level to demand that a certain technology should be used, at least at this point in the development of the tech.

>>514060950
>I think he's convinced that cameras are the best solution because someone told him that well humans have two cameras don't have anything like radar so it should be doable right.
That sounds plausible. It's also pretty stupid to try to imitate humans if you want something that drives better than humans. Humans are bad drivers. If you limit the car to what a human can do you'll at best match the human - but realistically trail it by a substantial amount since, as you mention, humans have a massive amount of visual processing wetware. We also have empathy so we can to some extent predict what other drivers are likely to do.

He's a little retarded but he's not wrong either because everything he knows about self driving cars is based off what the tesla FSD team is telling him. This isn't a retard spouting random things out. It's a regurgitation from extremely intelligent people who work for him. FSD is pretty incredible. Only edge cases make it look bad and they can train their AI models off that bad information.

>>514058827 (OP)
do you need radar/lidar to walk around?

>>514062469
It shouldn't. It should go into a control loop. AI should only be used for things you can't really code by hand like object classification. Sensor integration is pretty much a solved problem already, using AI for that would be a downgrade both in accuracy and performance (control loops are supposed to be realtime, AI is generally not).

>>514064081
You can't build self-driving cars that can handle generic traffic situations with simple heuristics and shit.

>>514062469
Doesn't matter, AI image processing is very unreliable.
If a radar detects something, then a physical object is there that reflects radar waves.

>>514063734
>at least at this point in the development of the tech.it would be dumb on a legal level to demand that a certain technology should be used
indian AI slop for tesla, mandate it

>>514063709
Form follows function.

Production lines are usually automated in a way that wear and tear are reduced as much as possible.

Think of a parcel sorting line like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PzVqoEKuoM

An overhead scanner checks the parcel, the rollers and bands are directing the boxes into the right direction. Easy peasy.
That system there costs some million to deploy and replaces maybe 95% of the workers sorting parcel, while only needing four revolving shifts of technicians to maintain.

Now look at this stupid robot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkc2y0yb89U

That robot has completely unnecessary human movement, which means unnecessary wear and tear on a very delicate machine.
And other than often suggested, it can not work 24/7, because it needs to charge and also no one is talking about the whole AI server a company needs to deploy to reduce lag by sending over data to a centralized GPU cluster thousands of miles away.

There are other economic factors to it. For example the fact that the fixed cost of the good or service produced skyrocket if the output of that robot is just 50% the speed of a human.
Other than often suggested, speed does matter, even if you produce 50% output for just 10% the price (which is not even possible with a humanoid anyway).

>>514064396
You can handle "if sensors say there is something in front of the car, stop" with control loops. An autonomous drone might use AI for some decisions but stabilisation will be handled by PID controllers because getting AI to do something that needs to happen the same way every time and with minimal latency is stupid. Btw AI is by definition a heuristic.

>>514064514
Might as well add lasers, radar is very unreliable (phantom breaking).

While we're at it, why don't we add every single sensor we know? Put in Lasers, Radar, Lidar, Gamma ray cameras, a microscope, a telescope, and a gravity wave sensor so you can get notified when a black hole merge is detected

>>514064767
Two sensors are an absolute minimum you should rely on. You should always have a second opinion.
It's ESPECIALLY retarded to only use cameras, when AI image processing is retarded.

>>514058827 (OP)
autistic, but yes
majority of autistics are retarded but have 1 ability usually... think of them like down syndrome but instead of retard strength you have a +5 to a random stat

>>514061489
I trust myself in full control of a vehicle that won't lock up when protestors try to surround my car to drag me out and beat me to death.

>>514064651
>it can not work 24/7
it can, just plug it into an outlet. Have you never watched evangelion?
> no one is talking about the whole AI server a company needs to deploy to reduce lag
every single serious humanoid robot company is doing local processing though. You can fit pretty powerful GPUs into a humanoid robot.
> There are other economic factors to it. For example the fact that the fixed cost of the good or service produced skyrocket if the output of that robot is just 50% the speed of a human.
Humanoid robots will replace jobs that are currently done by humans physically, like a bricklayer, plumber or electrician. The whole point of having the "humanoid" form factor is that it's generic enough to navigate into our cities, which were specifically built for our form factor.

>>514058827 (OP)
yes he is very retarded

>>514065289
I forgot to mention humans can't breed, so as we're aging, we will not have enough young humans to do all the manual jobs that require the human form factor. Therefore it doesn't really matter if the robot is 50% slower than a human, we will simply need their services.

>>514065289
Form factor has nothing to do with why plumbers haven't been automated. Every job location is different. A human can easily locate a front door, knock, greet the resident, find the kitchen, find the leaking faucet, determine a bolt needs tightening, orient a tool to fit over the bolt and apply the correct amount of force to tighten it. Every single step of that process is incredibly hard for machines. Each one is several PhD theses worth of work. Having a machine with a humanoid shape does absolutely nothing to solve any part of being a plumber. In fact a flying drone would probably be better because humanoid robots still struggle with stairs.

>>514058827 (OP)
The guy that microdoses Ketomin retarded, nah, relax guy

>>514064651
thing is, if you can build this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkc2y0yb89U
then you can (most likely) build this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PzVqoEKuoM

not the other way around

>>514058827 (OP)
Virtually everything Apple TV+ puts out these days is unique, riveting, first-class television, and The Savant looks like it will be another winner.

I'm ready to buckle up!

>>514065868
>Form factor has nothing to do with why plumbers haven't been automated
There are no robot plumbers right now because the tech is obviously not there yet. Both in software and hardware.

However, if AI and robotics don't hit a wall, shit will just keep getting better and eventually surpass humans in every metric. LLMs are already destroying humans on many aspects, and it's basically still a brain in a jar with amnesia.

Human dexterity is not unbeatable.

>>514058827 (OP)
Elon's argument might have been true 10 years ago, but with enough AI development, i'm sure the lidar can be implemented as something that improves accuracy

>>514062043
but he does, Vas'ka. Starlink is lifelink for dynamic warfare. Value of starlink is that ukro-commanders are getting real-time central HD overview from drones of all battlefield. Russia can't do the same and still uses basically radio waves to transmit signals mainly and commanders are still using radio updates and update big chalkboard. That is crux of slow advance of Russia to save infantry which is visible to ukroids.

>>514065289

This is a robot repairing electrical lines, you fuck:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dpRUbtdkYB0

This is a machine for automatically laying bricks:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XKuPKNYGLdk

These things are already widely used in all kinds of jobs.

Again: FORM! FOLLOWS! FUNTION!

Or take household tasks.
This is a modern lawn mower:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMp7EqDW09A

It costs only a few hundred bucks more than a regular lawnmower.

Why the hell would you buy a regular lawnmower first and then a damn humanoid robot for even just 20000 bucks on top to automate it?

Do you get it?

FORM! FOLLOWS! FUNCTION!

That is the basic design principle every product designer, IT specialist, MBA and other professionals learn, because everything else does not make sense.

And no, other than "simple" tasks like walking, humanoid robots need a server to compute.
Tesla cars need updated hardware to run their latest software just for driving, because their models grow exponentially. In a car where you would think it has plenty of space for strong computing hardware.
How much space for compute does a damn humanoid robot have compared to that?

>>514058827 (OP)
Teslas cannot see motorcycles on the highway and will run them completely over

>>514067597
based elon

>>514066316
>Human dexterity is not unbeatable
It's not really dexterity either, it's more like ability to generalise.
You can show a kid a bolt once and they'll recognise every bolt they see for the rest of their lives, no matter the colour, size or orientation. For AI to recognise bolts you need to show it thousands of bolts in multiple sizes and colours and every orientation. For it to then learn that a spanner fits over the bolt but the spanner has to be oriented the right way as well and that depends upon the orientation of the bolt... I'm not saying this is all impossible but it's probably decades away.

This is why it struggles to draw hands btw. Hands are seen in too many different configurations for AI to realise they're all the same class of object.

>>514067038
>This is a robot repairing electrical lines, you fuck:
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dpRUbtdkYB0
>This is a machine for automatically laying bricks:
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XKuPKNYGLdk
The first one looks like it is being operated by a human. But anyway these are both cases suited to machines because the environment is controlled. The brick laying machine has a big white rectangle to deal with which will always be seen from bird's eye view. This makes it much easier because it doesn't have to generalise to different orientations.

>>514067597
Some Musk fanboy will tell you that's good because his mom's "boyfriend" drove a motorcycle

>>514058827 (OP)
sensor contention is why the soviets could land shit on the moon, while most probes fail today.

You got 3 sensors and all three have different error rates, and even worse, each has a chance to malfunction or return entirely spurious readings.

The problem of which sensor to prioritize always ends up with you having to prioritize one sensor in the end and making the others useless. You want 20 of one sensor rather than 20 different sensors.

>>514067831
Jesus fucking crist!

Here is a kind of brick laying machine on a construction site:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WFZmu4rs8E

And what do you think how a humanoid robot would repair an electrical line? Doesn't it need a lift? Doesn't it need transport?
Can it work completely unsupervised in public, not just maintaining the power line, but also closing and redirecting traffic, operate the switches and breaks at the relay station, all independently without needing to connect to a server?

Have you people ever worked in actual jobs? Are you all fucking retarded?

>>514068568
>what do you think how a humanoid robot would repair an electrical line? Doesn't it need a lift? Doesn't it need transport?
If you read my post and thought I was on the side of humanoid robots then you're a retard
What is wrong with German flags recently? Worse than Canadians now.

Meatbags use two cameras to drive.
With more cameras, AI can do the job better.
Cameras are more universal as well, since they can recognize what's in front f and around the car.
Simple as.

>>514062564
>heat seeking
flares
>rader
cross section of a fucking bumble bee
>in clear weather
just pray your enemies strike on a sunny summers afternoon kek
Elons a retard and so are you vlad that's why you're losing a fucking war retard nigger.

>>514059071
>and believes you can defeat stealth aircraft with optical tracking.
You can.
Stealth "technology" isn't Harry Potter invisible cloak shit.

retard.

>>514068733
Then why do you answer to me as if there is any doubt wether or not that example is applicable.

It's not like these people even understand what any of this work even entails.

Also, why am i discussing this with a third worlder from Brasil? Half their electricity grid is just people black handing electricity from neighbours until the load burns down their shit shacks.

>>514058827 (OP)
For many years I assumed 'ftw' meant 'fuck the world'.

>>514058827 (OP)
That's so retarded. This is your idol /pol/?

>>514069494
I think it means "for the win" and he learned that from playing World of Warcraft with 12 year olds.

>>514069484
It was supposed to be a follow-up to my response to João, I was pointing out that machines/robots are useful in cases where the environment is controlled like your examples. They aren't suitable for jobs like domestic plumber because the environment is not controlled by the designer of the machine.

>>514068959
It's supposed to be better than meatbags

>>514069023
>oh no, how would a missile with more processing power than 3 transistors they used in 1970 determine the real target from the flares

>open bomb doors to fire a missile
>lose a plane worth more than whatever missile locked on

>forcing enemy planes to only fly with cloud cover is losing
Come at us niggel if we're losing a war, or is disunited kingdom of great pakistania all bark and no bite?

>>514069781
He's such a new fag!!

>>514058827 (OP)
>>514058957
Nah it's fair. If you have stereoscopic cameras and the software to process that, and also radar with its own software to process what it sees you have to give one priority anyway, or set some arbitrary ratio, which is not guaranteed to be good.
So why not focus totally on one system and having nothing interfere with that?
>>514059784
Lidar is easily confused/blinded.
That said: you'll definitely want some sensors to measure distance, which can be done in various ways, without forming an image exactly.
So it's not exactly about eliminating lidar or radar entirely, but limiting its use, instead of having it generate a second image that competes with the visual image.

>>514061310
Stopping randomly can be a big risk. People have been found negligent for stopping on highways and causing crashes.

>>514067038
>This is a robot repairing electrical lines, you fuck:
good luck fixing electrical wires inside an apartment with that huge truck

meanwhile, an advanced humanoid robot could just drive itself to the address, walk, take the elevator, fix wires and bang your wife (no tips required).

>>514058827 (OP)
ELON IS THE ANTICHRIST

>>514069484
>why am i discussing this with a third worlder from Brasil? Half their electricity grid is just people black handing electricity from neighbours until the load burns down their shit shacks.
Eat a dick, Scholz.
At least they don't just permit the US + UK + Poland to Terror-bomb their vital infrastructure.

fag

>>514070967
>fix wires and bang your wife (no tips required).
Top KEK.

>>514058827 (OP)
Laser based sensors are the most accurate thing around. If it used to move .0001 inches with 100% accuracy it is unbeatable. Radar won't even measure .01.

>>514071459
Well duh, is there even a difference? Light has a shorter wavelength than radar waves, which both are electromagnetic waves. If you use x-rays it will be even more accurate! Also won't have to contend with any pesky obstacles besides solid lead shielding!
>use electron microscope for even greater precision!
Problem with laser is that it diffuses and doesn't like certain kinds of surfaces. Its performance will be massively degraded in rain, for instance.
>all that chaotic refraction

I don't see the issue with this. I can drive a car without shooting laser beams out of my ass. So there's certainly a precedent for it.

He's a capital hoarding fraud.
His goal was to own as much property as possible. He's not a scientist, he's not an inventor.

An AI can mistake the environment just like a human can, lidar can actually scan the surrounding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ6fv_xUQis

>>514063734
Ghost in the Shell? The franchise where characters repeatedly get defeated / make mistakes because their vision sensors are compromised?

>>514071459
Nigger pajeet cocksucker musk
>tranime companion
>why did my son become a tranny???!!

>>514072363
>be guy
>hide in bush
>someone walks past
>jump out of bush and stab them
>"Hah, defeated your vision sensors, fool!"

>>514070967
In a proper developed country that could actually afford a humanoid robot electrical lines are not randomly stringed from your neighbour to your computer, but insulated and only "break down" at contact points when the power outlet was dirty or the breaker didn't work when overloaded.

This means that "fixing" electric wiring means just replacing the power outlet, which takes five minutes and 10 bucks for a person that is not completely stupid.

It may be possible that in a third world country like Brasil power lines need to be fixed because people are fucking retarded and do shit like pic related, but i'm almost certain that a truly inteligent robot will not touch this shit either and instead get a ticket back to a civilized country.

>>514070268
so you arguements are as followed
>flares dont work bro
lmao
>kosovo fluke
lmao
>russians can't into clouds
lmao
cope and seethe eurasian spastic remember 14:1

>>514072686
Actually especially in old buildings you might have to replace or install new cables and outlets, or an entirely new distribution box, so that happens as well.
But it's pretty much just those three (actually two)
>maintain actual fucking power lines and substations
>maintain the lines going from substation to consoomer distribution cabinet (actually nothing to maintain, just lay new ones)
>do stuff on consumer end
This spiderweb nonsense is simply insanity.

>>514058827 (OP)
Ironically, russians were using cameras instead of lidar for similar readons already some decade ago...

>>514065289
>Humanoid robots will replace jobs that are currently done by humans physically, like a bricklayer, plumber or electrician
lmao

>>514071079
I live in a country that is relevant to the jews.
Yours didn't even need to be destroyed and mongrelized, as you did it yourself voluntarily.

How does it feel having half your family beheaded with a chainsaw and displayed on the internet by the cartels and the other half selling their asses on the street to westerners, by the way?

>>514059046
You will own nothing und you vil be happy

Hes a merchant trying to sell us his techno dystopian future.

>>514060643
Lol
Newsflash:
>>514073264

>road dirt gets kicked up into cameras
>tesla drives off a cliff
Yep this is going to work great.

>>514058827 (OP)
geohot predicted this.

>>514058957
Nah, radards have a lot of flaws. Like they depend heavily on the surrounding objects geometry to be accurate. Also, depending on the type of radar, they can be really really susceptible to destructive interference.

>>514061931
>Retard thinks black equates to camouflaged, at night
No one tell him

>>514058827 (OP)
Waymo actually works though

>>514058827 (OP)
It's cheaper for research and manufacturing to go with one system. That's it. He could combine the strengths of each, but doesn't want to.
Lidar cars WILL kill you and anyone else in the way when the visible spectrum is obscured

>>514058827 (OP)

... humans dont have radar and lidar too, be it walking, driving or general interction with the surrounding world, its always an estimation, and most of the time we dont miss, because we are good at it! training a machine to be able to do it like living beeings, is the winning move - its not easier, the opposite, but its the more accurate and versatile approach!

>>514073707
only works in just the right conditions, in perfect weather in a couple cities.. great product elon

>>514074443
>Lidar cars WILL kill you and anyone else in the way when the visible spectrum is obscured
did you mean to say this?

if you're so smart why aren't you rich also?

where did your hot takes and clever quips get you?

where did pointing out how "dumb other people are" get you?

do you REALLY actually truly believe its possible to grift your way to the top like that? Really really?

you don't need to answer, it's just a question you should ask yourself

>>514073481
>I live in a country that is relevant to the jews.
Was.
How does it feel to have been brought to your fucking KNEES, by the Jews, once again?

BTW, in case you feel cold tonight, light a candle and put on a sweater.

Cuck faggot

>>514059071
But I can see stealth planes just fine. checkmate radar

>>514075564
my daddy did not own a emerald mine, nor benefit from an apartheid (based) system.
game of life is 99% who you know