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Anonymous (ID: ShljUX2+) United States No.514061765 >>514061936 >>514062237 >>514062366 >>514062416 >>514063154 >>514063466 >>514064990 >>514065053 >>514066065 >>514067170 >>514067997 >>514068020 >>514068359 >>514068851 >>514069919 >>514070461 >>514070595 >>514070850 >>514071134 >>514071364 >>514071834 >>514074797 >>514074822
>he is 100% man and 100% God
Christians, what is a man?
Anonymous (ID: 3i2olXYu) United States No.514061936 >>514062527
>>514061765 (OP)
An adult male.
Anonymous (ID: k33J4Vs3) No.514062032 >>514062580
>ban everything that falls outside muh christian sharia
>everything i don't like is degenerate, cigarettes and alcohol is totally fine tho!
He's not much better than your average leftist
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514062237 >>514062657
>>514061765 (OP)
>100% man
>100% god
and 100% jewish
Anonymous (ID: VQzbXstt) United States No.514062366
>>514061765 (OP)
I'm 100% sure OP is a faggot and this thread is shit.
Anonymous (ID: lCCCHk/g) United States No.514062416 >>514063375
>>514061765 (OP)
I look forward to his "I'm getting divorced." video in the future. Maybe even, "My adult children don't talk to me. They hate me." vid would be cool in like 20yrs.
Anonymous (ID: ShljUX2+) United States No.514062527 >>514062719 >>514063016 >>514067644 >>514068446 >>514068518 >>514069129
>>514061936
Do adult human men have super powers?
Anonymous (ID: OqkdhXdm) No.514062580
>>514062032
>he's not much different than your average leftist
Sure he is, he's an honorary kike, moshe
Anonymous (ID: QFT/Y1M4) United States No.514062657 >>514070868
>>514062237
>saving anime pics
Kys tranny
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514062719 >>514063335
>>514062527
Seems like you're being unironic, no, let's see where this goes.
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514062914 >>514063026 >>514063060 >>514063171 >>514065242 >>514066287 >>514071563
Where did all the uppity smug atheists go anyway?
I don't want to brag but did I drive them away?
Makes me feel like a has-been seeking his past glorious days.
Anonymous (ID: 3i2olXYu) United States No.514063016 >>514065250 >>514065498 >>514066403 >>514067013
>>514062527
Atheism leads to nothing good. Better for Christians to keep their faith in God than to lose it and become rutterless.

Modern Judaism is covert Satanism and Christians need to abandon supporting jews and Israel.
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514063026 >>514063234
>>514062914
>Where did all the uppity smug atheists go anyway?
they're busy being the only white people protesting Israel
Anonymous (ID: 3i2olXYu) United States No.514063060
>>514062914
Most of them will transition to tranny and kill themselves.
Anonymous (ID: XjNZLsB5) United States No.514063149
He's my favorite right winger. I watch all of his stuff and his movies.
Anonymous (ID: CfG1pp2l) United States No.514063154
>>514061765 (OP)
Christ on the cross
Anonymous (ID: VQzbXstt) United States No.514063171
>>514062914
>t. a legend in his own mind
Anonymous (ID: 3i2olXYu) United States No.514063234 >>514063399
>>514063026
Protesting Israel because Palestinians aren't white. They don't care about whites being killed in South Africa because they're self hating. No Christian should support Israel and only fake Christians like Megyn Kelly some whore trying to look like a porn star at 60 support Israel.
Anonymous (ID: ShljUX2+) United States No.514063335 >>514063823 >>514065595 >>514066439 >>514069439
>>514062719
Seems like Christians have tranny logic is all I'm saying. I just can't figure out what God allegedly larping in a meatsuit accomplishes. The 100% man and 100% god claim sounds like trying to have it both ways to avoid criticism. Even if it was true it is a self defeating narrative. How can he be a sinless if you can't tempt God to begin with? Even if you could tempt God, why does it matter when his meatsuit larp has superpower mode?
>can't get sick because he can heal
>doesn't have hunger problems because he conjures food
>even conjures money at one point
>when he "dies" he is still God
How is any of this really inspiring when you think about it?
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514063368
Remember your roots.
Anonymous (ID: lZlpzMq3) United States No.514063375
>>514062416
He's going to be Steven Crowder 2.0
Closeted fag who has contempt for his family because he's just LARPing as a devout Catholic
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514063399 >>514063566
>>514063234
>Uh...actually, 99% of Christians are fake, bro
No true Christian
lol
lmao
Anonymous (ID: X6EYlzg0) United States No.514063466
>>514061765 (OP)
I see a faggot who's scared of cartoons....
Anonymous (ID: 3i2olXYu) United States No.514063566 >>514063798
>>514063399
Christians didn't support jews for 2000 years, and the fact that some uneducated boomer evangelicals were misguided into Zionism doesn't change that.
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514063798 >>514065031 >>514065084 >>514068129 >>514074607
>>514063566
Ignoring the fact that Christians literally worship a Jew and affirm the ludicrous idea that the tribal Jewish desert deity Yahweh is actually the god of all reality...
Christians let Jews live in their nations while they genocided every single polytheistic faith they could, wherever they went.
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514063823 >>514063964 >>514064750 >>514067160
>>514063335
The trinity is actually amazing I realized.
Reality doesn't have to conform to our understanding, that would actually be un-realistic, especially when it comes to God, the ultimate identity of reality.
So monotheism as opposed to the trinity is just primate. Makes perfect sense for the ahmeds to laud.
But the trinity and monotheism aren't mutually exclusive.
When you come to this realizations, it's just amazing.
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514063964 >>514064750
>>514063823
Makes you go OH! OF COURSE!
It's really not made but based on reality which doesn't have any obligation or consideration to your comprehension.
Anonymous (ID: ShljUX2+) United States No.514064750 >>514064945 >>514065195 >>514066723
>>514063823
>Reality doesn't have to conform to our understanding
I've read both the Old and New Testaments and Christians are the only ones who spew this line when they can't explain their own nonsense.
>>514063964
>reality which doesn't have any obligation or consideration to your comprehension.
Except that he wanted us to know. The Old Testament has so much detail about what he wants. He even asks in Deuteronomy 30 if this is too hard for you to understand, which is a rhetorical question. God doesn't change his mind either and even commands not to add or take away from the bible, which the New testament manages to do all of that.
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514064945
>>514064750
>Are you there, dad? It's me, you.
https://youtu.be/gjBFc5L6E1g?
Anonymous (ID: leZU8+kj) United States No.514064990
>>514061765 (OP)
a mutilated slave mostly
Anonymous (ID: 3i2olXYu) United States No.514065031
>>514063798
Corrupt godless atheist leadership let jews into white Christian countries. Americans were much more devoutly religious in 1938, and yet 2/3 of young people didn't want jews here. How do you rectify the fact that you're wrong about everything?
Anonymous (ID: kcJ/zj2V) United States No.514065053 >>514066072 >>514070652
>>514061765 (OP)
A miserable pile of secrets.
Anonymous (ID: 1nCJke+P) United States No.514065084 >>514065399
>>514063798
>Christians literally worship a Jew
You're boring
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514065195 >>514065398 >>514065595 >>514065730
>>514064750
To think everything has to conform to your 2lbs brain just seems arrogantly retarded.
On the nature and reality of God no less.
>Except that he wanted us to know.
Yes, but I don't remember the Bible getting into the intricate workings of radio frequencies or whatnot.
It often says "It is not for you to know" and things like that, it's mostly about your relation with Him.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514065242 >>514065445
>>514062914
>I drive them away?
No lol
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514065250 >>514065392
>>514063016
If you believe your stupid horseshit about le holy ghost and an interventionist-for-good god then it doesn't matter what anyone does as the rules are already set. Might as well denounce the Torah, but no, apparently this supernatural force needs psychic good vibrations or some shit.
Anonymous (ID: 3i2olXYu) United States No.514065392 >>514065637
>>514065250
Worthless post.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514065398
>>514065195
>It often says "It is not for you to know" and things like that
Because the men who wrote it didn't know either so they put statements like that in there..
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514065399
>>514065084
Worse, you worship TEXT in a world with 200 billion gigabytes of text. Renew your NYTimes subscription if "the word" is so amazing.
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514065445 >>514065553
>>514065242
You don't really see them to be fair. Paganism is all the rage nowadays. No flying spaghetti monster types.
Anonymous (ID: W6LU/pmI) United States No.514065496
This guy is artificially prominent. he has wealthy funders and aid on social media for views. his views aren't unique nor novel. hes the based-rightwing-christian-israel-bro
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514065498 >>514065790
>>514063016
>Atheism leads to nothing good
Atheism has nothing to do with "good" or "bad" it's just an opinion about God or gods
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514065553
>>514065445
>You don't really see them to be fair.
What does this mean exactly?
Anonymous (ID: ShljUX2+) United States No.514065595
>>514065195
>to your 2lbs brain
Crazy levels of projection from a guy who dodged the post >>514063335 and only responded with unproven theological babble.
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514065637 >>514065892
>>514065392
Cope. Just do nothing and shut up about magic book characters but you can't because like I said you don't really have faith.
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514065730 >>514065883
>>514065195
>your relation with Him
>He is depicted as a half naked Mediterranean fantasy man
You. Are. Gay.
Anonymous (ID: 3i2olXYu) United States No.514065790 >>514065970 >>514065970 >>514065976
>>514065498
Atheists are more obsessed with trying to force everyone into believing what they believe than Christians are.

Religion gives humans structure and a set of rules that govern how they hope to live. Without religion, most people devolve into hedonism. The atheist movement of the 2010s devolved into women pushing feminism and trans rights, perfectly illustrating how atheism in practice is a race to the bottom.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514065883 >>514065939
>>514065730
Chill bro, all one in Christ Jesus ;^)
Anonymous (ID: 3i2olXYu) United States No.514065892
>>514065637
You sound like a typical 4chan poster and thus not worth engaging with.
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514065939
>>514065883
>some
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514065970 >>514066165
>>514065790
>Atheists are more obsessed with trying to force everyone into believing what they believe than Christians are
Some are annoying about it sure. But making sweeping generalizations is low IQ shit. >>514065790
>Religion gives humans structure and a set of rules that govern how they hope to live
Cool man, do whatever works for your. Your faith doesn't offend or bother me
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514065976 >>514066115 >>514066165
>>514065790
Typical myopic idiot. Atheism came after theism, because theism FAILED. It's already over you dumbass. We did your thing for millenia, then we found tools derived from science defeated Ghost Dance and prayer. That's why you're using a tool built on quantum physics to proclaim your need to be mentally submissive to a fantasy man book character.
Anonymous (ID: Hn4umW3M) United States No.514066065
>>514061765 (OP)
matt walsh looks like the biggest faggot ever
Anonymous (ID: YFmj35Hv) United States No.514066072 >>514066159 >>514070652
>>514065053
Miserable little pile of secrets
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514066115 >>514066287 >>514066542
>>514065976
Hard times create Godly men.
Godly men created good times.
Good times creates faggy men.
Faggy men create hard times.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514066159 >>514070652
>>514066072
Anonymous (ID: 3i2olXYu) United States No.514066165 >>514066287
>>514065970
>>514065976
Christians simply don't think about you ever. You're the one coming to us shouting like a lunatic.
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514066202
a featherless biped
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514066287
>>514066115
>Godly men.
I've heard about these people or aka "true Christians" but in practice, they don't exist lol

>>514066165
>Christians simply don't think about you ever
Well that's proven false ITT lol
>>514062914
>Where did all the uppity smug atheists go anyway?
>I don't want to brag but did I drive them away?
Kek
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514066326
https://youtu.be/sC4se0jX1XE?
Anonymous (ID: qi7XBnLp) United States No.514066403 >>514066454
>>514063016
>Better for Christians to keep their faith in God than to lose it and become rutterless
The atheists who are rudderless are the former Christians, not the ones who are raised atheist. When a person is raised to think their morality comes from Jewish fairy tales, what happens to them when they stop believing in them?
Anonymous (ID: GaxIBDIa) United States No.514066439 >>514067013
>>514063335
Maybe you should read the book instead of asking people on a forum to explain it to you, when here are already thousands of places to find sparknotes on the Bible. You're just bored, and you want to troll Christians. Beating your meat would unironicallly be more productive than what you're doing right now, since your fat ass would at least burn some calories doing that. Please type out another long ass response novella no one will read lol.
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514066454 >>514066863 >>514066876
>>514066403
so where does your morality come from?
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514066542 >>514066738
>>514066115
Godly men have always lost throughout history. Nongqawuse killing cattle or Wovoka channeling ancestors through the spirit dance FAILED when faced with tools derived from science. Those examples were niggers and redskins because white men already figured out best problem solving methods don't include the spirit realm.
Anonymous (ID: OftjRvhe) United Kingdom No.514066723 >>514067883
>>514064750
Now Yahweh said, “Shall I conceal from Abraham what I am about to do, since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed? For I have known him, so that he may command his children and his household after him, that they keep the way of Yahweh to do righteousness and justice, so that Yahweh may bring upon Abraham what He has spoken about him.”
— Genesis 18:17-19

>Yahweh refers to Yahweh in the 3rd person in the first book of the Tanakh.

Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of Yahweh, and Satan standing at his right hand to accuse him. And Yahweh said to Satan, “Yahweh rebuke you, Satan! Indeed, Yahweh who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand delivered from the fire?”
— Zechariah 3:1-2

>Yahweh refers to Yahweh in the 3rd person near the end of the Tanakh (chronologically).

There are many more examples than these.
These are just the most obvious cases.
If you are genuine, you should consider studying the Old Testament in depth.
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514066738
>>514066542
Those were not faggy men but Godly men though.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514066863 >>514067426
>>514066454
Not that anon but mine comes from thinks such as empathy, the ability to reason through consequences both good and bad and observing the effects and affects of said consequences.

The goal is to strive for peaceful cohesion with myself, friends, family, neighbors and colleagues
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514066876 >>514066986 >>514067426
>>514066454
Why do they need a source of morality if religion is correct? They should already have the holy spirit within them so from a religious perspective people can't be atheist, without theism. Of course, since this theism never manifests as anything tangible in physical reality, you need the social reinforcement of others doing the same ritual.
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514066986 >>514067158 >>514067363
>>514066876
>never manifests as anything tangible in physical reality
Just like your morality? That's the very thing in question, isn't it?
Anonymous (ID: ShljUX2+) United States No.514067013 >>514067203 >>514068262
>>514063016
>Christians to keep their faith in God
You don't have faith in God when you rewrite him like they did.

>>514066439
I did read it. I'm not trolling. Everyone is just dodging the solid posts I made where I posed the conundrum.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514067158
>>514066986
>>never manifests as anything tangible in physical reality
>Just like your morality?
Sure it does. They are called consequences
Anonymous (ID: OftjRvhe) United Kingdom No.514067160
>>514063823
Yes, God is incredible!
If existing in three persons brings greater glory to God, should God not be a Trinity?
Existing as 1 in 1, just for the sake of human intuition, would not be consistent with the nature of God.
God can demonstrate His perfect humility, because God can then submit His will to God perfectly.

“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” declares Yahweh.
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways
And My thoughts than your thoughts.
— Isaiah 55:8-9
Anonymous (ID: DZ3xSNpF) Germany No.514067170
>>514061765 (OP)
it is what no one has ever seen in the modern world (women too^^)
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514067203 >>514067391
>>514067013
>appeared to many.
>No-one noticed
I don't get it, what's the purpose behind spamming this? What's the gotcha exactly?
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514067363 >>514067424 >>514067527
>>514066986
It's a logical flaw for a religious person to ask what someone else's morality is if said religious person's morality includes supernatural forces that implement that morality in everyone. What you're really asking is how do atheists summon the power to overcome the supernatural forces that dominate your thoughts. The answer is that those forces don't exist, you're just naturally submissive and need a fantasy alpha figure to feel safe.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514067391 >>514067617 >>514067727 >>514068615 >>514069050
>>514067203
>What's the gotcha exactly?
It's called circular reasoning. Did any contemporaries write down, outside the bible, that zombies wandered around? No they didn't because it didn't happen.

Hope that helps!
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514067424
>>514067363
This
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514067426 >>514067662 >>514068878
>>514066863
So you're a utilitarian. How do you answer the trolley problem?
>>514066876
You aren't imbued with the Holy Spirit until you are received into the Church. I don't think any denomination anywhere teaches what you claim, but the One True Church certainly doesn't say what you're saying. You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of Christian beliefs. With that being said: why should anyone take any opinion that you have on it seriously?
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514067527
>>514067363
That doesn't answer the question. (Is objective morality even supernatural?)
Are you denying objective morality along with the supernatural as a package?
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514067617 >>514067711
>>514067391
How is that not an appeal to ignorance?
Anonymous (ID: 83ggo73k) United States No.514067644 >>514067854
>>514062527
My cock is a superpower, your mom calls it Supercock or King Kong
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514067662 >>514067954
>>514067426
>So you're a utilitarian
Define that in your own words
>How do you answer the trolley problem?
By stopping the person from tying up people and putting them on the tracks. Or would you just sit and watch and wait until the trolly comes to act?
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514067711
>>514067617
Believing zombies rose from the dead is that ignorance
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514067727 >>514067854 >>514067948 >>514067948
>>514067391
>zombies
Do you really believe that bodies reanimated by the Lord God, Creator of Heaven and Earth, would come back as rotted, shambling corpses?
Surely you're just pretending to be retarded.
Anonymous (ID: ShljUX2+) United States No.514067854 >>514068312
>>514067644
Bro, no one has faith in that claim.

>>514067727
That event is almost more significant than anything else the Christians claim yet no one ever brings it up.
Anonymous (ID: OftjRvhe) United Kingdom No.514067883 >>514068262
>>514066723
To go even further consider these.

And Yahweh rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Yahweh out of heaven,
— Genesis 19:24

Very strange language if this were to describe the act of a single person.
This is the Yahweh on earth, that spoke to Abraham, now calling fire from a different Yahweh in heaven.

“I overthrew you as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah,
And you were like a firebrand delivered from a blaze;
Yet you have not returned to Me,” declares Yahweh.
— Amos 4:11

Again, very strange language if the Yahweh speaking performed both acts of overthrowing.
Considering that we just established that 2 Yahwehs were involved in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, this gives us a third Yahweh that was not involved.

So, we have the Son calling down fire from the Father onto Sodom. Then, the Holy Spirit commented on the event that He was not personally involved in. Trinity in the Tanakh (Old Testament).
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514067948 >>514068312
>>514067727
>Do you really believe that bodies reanimated by the Lord God, Creator of Heaven and Earth, would come back as rotted, shambling corpses?
I don't believe in the premise to begin with.

>>514067727
>Surely you're just pretending to be retarded
The irony lol
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514067954 >>514068090 >>514068090 >>514068221
>>514067662
The question presupposes that you come upon them already there, but I'll take your answer for what it is.
>define
I stick to dictionary definitions. It makes things easier for everyone.
adjective
Of, relating to, or in the interests of utility.
utilitarian considerations in industrial design.
Exhibiting or stressing utility over other values; practical.
plain, utilitarian kitchenware.
So, are there no depths of the things you would do to bring the maximum amount of happiness to the most amount of people? Do you have any hard lines you won't cross?
Anonymous (ID: boEAtiKL) United States No.514067997
>>514061765 (OP)
It all starts with a Y chromosome.
Sometimes, as you can see, that is insufficient.
Anonymous (ID: k5+nj7Qt) United States No.514068020
>>514061765 (OP)
A shabboz goy
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514068090 >>514068396
>>514067954
>The question presupposes that you come upon them already there
Yup. Otherwise if I'm not there then I can't make any decisions. So the question is moot without context

>>514067954
>It makes things easier for everyone.
It would be nice if that were 100% the case all the time. But it isn't, but when it is, it sure is nice.
Anonymous (ID: gqdEE4vX) No.514068129
>>514063798
>Christians literally worship a Jew
Time off from work. Family getting together have a extraordinary dinner. No one really gives a shit about imaginary cause. Get real bro, seams kikes totally hooked you by suggested to imagine things, that do not exist. Life is real we are real ... so as mind swindlers.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514068221
>>514067954
>So, are there no depths of the things you would do to bring the maximum amount of happiness to the most amount of people?
Context always matters doesn't it?
>Do you have any hard lines you won't cross?
Sure.
Anonymous (ID: OftjRvhe) United Kingdom No.514068262
>>514067013
There was no rewrite. See >>514067883

Regarding your image:

But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”
— Luke 16:31
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514068312 >>514068424 >>514068462 >>514069042
>>514067854
It's incredibly significant that more people rose from the dead. With that being said -- what makes you suppose that banal, worldly people even noticed it? If they didn't appear as rotted corpses and didn't make a scene why would anyone not privy to the knowledge write about it in the first place? Church teaching is that they appeared to signal to the faithful another sign of Christ's resurrection and final triumph over death.
>>514067948
Cool, so you're not interested in actually discussing the question at hand. Let me, then, ask you a question: what alternative would you propose to Christianity? It doesn't even have to be what is colloquially known as a "religion"
Anonymous (ID: t7aPrVSt) United States No.514068359
>>514061765 (OP)
>what is a man?
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514068396 >>514068549 >>514068717
>>514068090
So where does your utilitarianism end? Are there any acts you won't do?
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514068424 >>514068509 >>514069042
>>514068312
>so you're not interested in actually discussing the question at hand
There's nothing to discuss. People who have been long dead don't rise from the dead. Simple as
Anonymous (ID: YqpOcAn6) United Kingdom No.514068446
>>514062527
yes
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514068462 >>514068600 >>514068601 >>514068793
>>514068312
>what alternative would you propose to Christianity?
Am I telling you not to be a Christian?
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514068509 >>514068601
>>514068424
So what alternative would you propose?
Anonymous (ID: YqpOcAn6) United Kingdom No.514068518
>>514062527
the power to become a woman if I merely say so
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514068549 >>514068656
>>514068396
How about asking me direct questions instead of ambiguous questions the continually beg the question
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514068600 >>514068793
>>514068462
If you're not interested in discussing it and have admitted to not believing it in the first place, then I want to know what alternative suits you better. Semantic arguing about "lol I'm not here to convert you" doesn't say anything to anyone. It simply makes you appear as a redditor.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514068601
>>514068509
See
>>514068462
Anonymous (ID: OftjRvhe) United Kingdom No.514068615 >>514068793
>>514067391
You are correct that this is circular.
That is why, in order to be a true believer, you need to be injected into the cycle with God's gift of faith.

For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not of works, so that no one may boast.
— Ephesians 2:8-9

If you have a clear conscience and seek after God diligently, you will find Him.
He will not leave you to perish.

“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
— Matthew 7:7-8

And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light lest his deeds be exposed.
— John 3:19-20
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514068656 >>514068793
>>514068549
Sure. Let's start with an easy one. Are there any circumstances in which you would kill a child?
Anonymous (ID: v9DJX3ri) No.514068717 >>514068879
>>514068396
I don't think that's the right question, utilitarianism itself is begging the question with its priorities.
Where does the value come from? Pain and pleasure? Your chemicals reactions?
That's where the issue is.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514068793 >>514068976
>>514068600
Again,
>>514068462
The answer is no. Therefore your question is irrelevant

>>514068615
>That is why, in order to be a true believer, you need to be injected into the cycle with God's gift of faith
I'll pass but knock yourself out

>>514068656
>Are there any circumstances in which you would kill a child?
Let's first get on the same page about "killing" is killing also murder?
Anonymous (ID: YSfrLOZr) Latvia No.514068851
>>514061765 (OP)
This meme so good. Look at it.
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514068878 >>514069091 >>514069464
>>514067426
>seriously
Oh yes, the serious topic of when the spirits are activated. Even if narrowing the scope, it's the same logic. No one could ever become atheist after "receiving" (this also seems gay) the special magic, but clearly many people do.
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514068879
>>514068717
That's a valid question to ask, but I'm not here to try to argue people into conversion. Rather, I'm interested in the philosophical discussion itself to take the measure of society.
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514068976 >>514069090
>>514068793
>Let's first get on the same page about "killing" is killing also murder?
No. Murder is premeditated and generally speaking implies malice.
Anonymous (ID: ShljUX2+) United States No.514069042 >>514069727
>>514068312
>>514068424
The NT is trying to play into the belief the Jews have that there will be a day of resurrection for all. They were notorious for trying to convert them. Some Christians even believe they won't have their endgame until the Jews are converted.
Anonymous (ID: gqdEE4vX) No.514069050 >>514069156
>>514067391
let me get you free from the wheal ...

God = Love those words suppose to be replace able with each other .

So if something is not Love then it also not God, but additives from a gang of professional God lovers.

So why you even need word 'God' in the first place?

Love created everything including me. I am fruit of love of my mom and dad. People who has love in their hearts create life necessities . and people who encourage every one to praise The Lord, they want part of necessities for life created by people who just love each other with or with out religion.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514069090 >>514069220
>>514068976
Great then yes, there are circumstances where I would opt to end the life of a child
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514069091 >>514069789
>>514068878
This clearly isn't the case. Christ gave us the parable of the wheat and the tares for a reason. Again: you have a fundamental ignorance of what Christians actually believe. With this in mind: why should anyone take any opinion you hold on it seriously?
Anonymous (ID: 2NuQo8cj) Germany No.514069129 >>514069439 >>514069789
>>514062527
No, only God incarnated as a man (a son, son of Adam) has that power. Jesus Christ is Jehovah God Himself personally in the flesh. That's why He had the powers of God Himself, because He is God Himself. This is not complicated to understand, you just don't like this.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514069156 >>514070114 >>514070177 >>514070662
>>514069050
>God = Love
Why should I believe your personal feelings about "God"?
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514069220 >>514069392
>>514069090
Which circumstances, precisely?
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514069392 >>514069483
>>514069220
Terminal illness is the first thst comes to mind. I wouldn't coerce the child and it isn't the first choice but explore the idea.

The second that comes to mind is a kid strapped with explosives walking into a crowd
Anonymous (ID: ShljUX2+) United States No.514069439
>>514069129
see
>>514063335
Anonymous (ID: OftjRvhe) United Kingdom No.514069464 >>514070059
>>514068878
My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish—ever; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.
— John 10:27-28

In Him, you also, after listening to the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, unto the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory.
— Ephesians 1:13-14
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514069483 >>514069577 >>514070043
>>514069392
So you WOULD pull the lever. Thank you. :^)
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514069577
>>514069483
No nees to lie. I answered this already
Anonymous (ID: gqdEE4vX) No.514069727
>>514069042
A Judas goat is a trained goat used in animal herding. Judas goats are trained to associate with sheep or cattle and lead them to a specific destination. In stockyards, a Judas goat will lead sheep to slaughter while its own life is spared.

self chosen ones, became chosen ones if you play along with that train of thoughts = brain farts.
Kikes brain farting people into subjects of usury.

Victim hood is away to the "balcony" of social benefits. It is just a kike mind swindlers tricks.
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514069789 >>514070344
>>514069091
Uh, because I'm posting actual data that shows yes, people are leaving religion so my point that this supernatural force is ineffective is obvious.
>>514069129
What powers? This god of yours can't even keep people committed.
Anonymous (ID: 7/UXUTIi) Germany No.514069919
>>514061765 (OP)
a miserable little pile of secrets
are you new?
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514070043 >>514070093
>>514069483
>tries to have genuine conversation with this anon
>this anon is only concerned about a gotcha

Why are /pol/ Christians always so disingenuous?
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514070059
>>514069464
>and no one will snatch them out of My hand.
That clearly isn't the case. Do you really think no one loses their attachment to religion? Given that religion was at one time universal, all atheism comes from religious people and cultures. This idea that societies would be better if they reverted back to previous religiosity ignores what has already happened.
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514070093 >>514070177
>>514070043
they went all in on the debatebro shit
Anonymous (ID: gqdEE4vX) No.514070114 >>514070177 >>514070243
>>514069156
>Why should I believe?

Be lie with or be with suggested to imagine lie out.

White lie are plan for the future to build or create something .
Blue prints are example of a white lie. Everything else are ... but what Jewish children will eat?
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514070177 >>514070211
>>514070093
I genuinely like Andrew too

>>514070114
Again,
>>514069156
>Why should I believe your personal feelings about "God"?
?
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514070211 >>514070384
>>514070177
He's fucking annoying
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514070243 >>514071515
>>514070114
>no increase in evolutionary knowledge since 1859
If you went to middle school in a developed country you should know about Mendel and genetics.
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514070344 >>514070444 >>514070766
>>514069789
Once again: you don't understand what we believe. That people are leaving the religion means nothing. Christ Himself said that this would happen. What point are you trying to make here?
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514070384 >>514070676
>>514070211
I bet he can be but watching him destroy that feminist on the Whatever podcast was blissful
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514070444 >>514070522
>>514070344
>Once again: you don't understand what we believe
Neither do the lot of you. Hence the massive divisions in Christianity lol
Anonymous (ID: dP32TO0o) United States No.514070461
>>514061765 (OP)
200% juicy Jew cock
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514070522 >>514070577
>>514070444
2000 years of unbroken tradition but sure, false prophets arose just as Christ sad.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514070577 >>514070648
>>514070522
>2000 years of unbroken tradition
Kem sure bro
>over 30k divisions
Totally unbroken hahaha
Anonymous (ID: JSrBHFx5) United States No.514070595
>>514061765 (OP)
Your mom.
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514070648 >>514070753
>>514070577
One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic. anything less isn't the Church. 30k false prophets and counting.
Anonymous (ID: 0iAiTv9p) United States No.514070652 >>514070729
>>514065053
>>514066072
>>514066159
>What is a man?
A miserable little pile of secrets.

This is the only acceptable answer. Everyone can shut the fuck up now and stop posting to this thread.
Anonymous (ID: gqdEE4vX) No.514070662 >>514070753
>>514069156
>>God = Love
According to a gang of professional God lovers that is "truth". They know better then you, because they invented God. and there is a large crowd fan club of that idea.

So when you last time confess your sins? How would you grow as a person? Religion is good for you and Jewish children have food.
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514070676 >>514070781
>>514070384
>it was blissful
https://youtu.be/CtrqBYSZvMU?&t=301
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514070729
>>514070652
a wild oldfriend appears
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514070753 >>514071366
>>514070648
>30k false prophets and counting
Yeah, they all say the same thing about each other. Well done being just another voice in the grinder of no u's lol

>>514070662
>According to a gang of professional God lovers that is "truth"
Why should I believe them?
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514070766 >>514071366
>>514070344
The point is that in no way does some supernatural force ever override individual decision making so there is no use in believing this voodoo force exists if it's completely ineffectual.
BTW, notice the Jesus parable you mentioned is an agricultural story, much like all the shepherd talk. Obviously that is a dated story. In order to even interpret it someone needs to know about Eurasian wheat harvesting.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514070781 >>514070904
>>514070676
I don't click on YouTube links here.
Anonymous (ID: VIbxUReF) United States No.514070850
>>514061765 (OP)
>Christians, what is a man?
A miserable pile of secrets. But enough talk have at you!
Anonymous (ID: 7Iq3aZfR) Germany No.514070868
>>514062657
better than being a brown christcuck
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514070904 >>514070984
>>514070781
Why not? I removed the tracking thing. It also embeds so you don't even have to go to the link.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514070984 >>514071213
>>514070904
Waste of time and doesn't apply to what I said
Anonymous (ID: BfSOqIt/) Canada No.514071134
>>514061765 (OP)
Not this kike worshiping race traitor.
Anonymous (ID: ShljUX2+) United States No.514071154
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkT1-N0VqUc
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514071213 >>514071285
>>514070984
ok, whatever
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514071285 >>514071863
>>514071213
If you want to convert it to a WebM then I'll take a look or you can use your big boy words to describe it
Anonymous (ID: CxS/b7C5) United States No.514071364
>>514061765 (OP)
hes a pedophile apologist, he clearly doesnt know what a woman is either
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514071366 >>514071538
>>514070766
Nobody is claiming that the Holy Spirit forces people to become Christian. You either have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Christians believe or you've set up a strawman for yourself to knock down. Possibly both. Your talk of the specifics of the wording points to this -- it's a jewish debate tactic, btw.
>>514070753
No, most protestants believe that they are all under some invisible "umbrella" where lots of them are right all at once. No, it doesn't make sense to me either. A small point perhaps, but you're incorrect in your wording and wording is important here.
Anonymous (ID: gqdEE4vX) No.514071515 >>514071820
>>514070243
>If you went to middle school in a developed country
then you did time in school after what is difficult to recover. You know they put slaves kids in to schools and trained them to be as good as their parents.

Can you do everything, that your mom and dad can do, to the point that you could replace them?
11 - 15 year old kids suppose to be ready go to a master because there is nothing that they could learn from their parents any more. And that is how every generation get smarter in the old soceity before jew rats infection.

You can die for suggested to imagine things that do not exist , total delusional bamboozled with nonsense baboon. You can regurgitate jew rat brain farts in capacity of your memory. But you don't have own understanding about this world. just repeat what other people say.
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514071538 >>514071666
>>514071366
>No, most protestants believe that they are all under some invisible "umbrella" where lots of them are right all at once
Sounds no different from your favorite brand or someone else's
>but you're incorrect in your wording and wording is important here
I don't believe I am. But you're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514071563 >>514071813
>>514062914
Atheists succeeded in making religion embarrassing for anyone whose intellect is important for their identity. Any businessman who says he created some success by prayer and faith isn't good enough anymore, people want actual details like data points and strategy. That's why religion is now for poor people who thank god for helping them overcome crack or whatever.
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514071666 >>514071910 >>514071911 >>514071948
>>514071538
I won't mince words.There is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church. We do not believe in some invisible "umbrella." You are either in or you are out.
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514071813 >>514073181
>>514071563
All of the current evils of this era are due to your belief structure, and you dance around and boast about how smart you are for it. Tell me, do you feel shame?
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514071820 >>514072652 >>514073894
>>514071515
I didn't go to middle school, I did homeschooling after primary school, but it was by California hippies not religious people. I was just using middle school as an example of educational standards, which in California we still needed to follow to some extent to meet standardized testing.
Anonymous (ID: Utc+o915) United States No.514071834
>>514061765 (OP)
https://youtu.be/0itOCgJtNVU
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514071863 >>514071982
>>514071285
It was the end of Dream House by Deafheaven
Cause of the "is it blissful" meme
You condescending prick
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514071910 >>514072061
>>514071666
>There is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church.
Interesting
>person defends favorite thing
Shocking. You're not the only one to say that about their brand duder
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514071911 >>514072061
>>514071666
nice digits
You can keep your salvation and your pedo priests lol
Anonymous (ID: Utc+o915) United States No.514071948
>>514071666
And kikes are IN
t. pope
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514071982 >>514072076
>>514071863
Ah I was right when I said it's a waste of time and doesn't apply to what I said
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514072061 >>514072153 >>514072336 >>514073181
>>514071911
Tell me where in the Bible it defines its own contents and then I will hear your arguments on sola scriptura.
>>514071910
Ah yes, you're the moral relativist. So tell me, what makes your belief structure more valid than trans identity or communism?
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514072076 >>514072336
>>514071982
every single fucking thing on this godforsaken board is a waste of time and you know it
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514072153 >>514072212
>>514072061
I don't care what the bible says about anything
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514072212 >>514072498
>>514072153
Ah, I had hoped you were a protestant. So tell me, what do you believe in instead?
Anonymous (ID: opAzZts1) United States No.514072336
>>514072061
>what makes your belief structure more valid than trans identity or communism?
Because I say so kek. Weird Segway
>>514072076
True true
Anonymous (ID: W2i1ItjB) United States No.514072413
Actually, dinner is ready. Goodnight everybody.
Anonymous (ID: 2qL0X8Ef) United States No.514072471
Freemason pundit. Consume at your own risk.
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514072498 >>514075217
>>514072212
left hand path polytheistic nietzscheanism
Anonymous (ID: Utc+o915) United States No.514072578
Christianity really is the worst fandom and their wiki is in a retarded state.
Anonymous (ID: gqdEE4vX) No.514072652
>>514071820
>educational standards
Yes jews agreed apply that to all humans same so that you could bias confirm each other .

Psychologically group pressure is difficult to with stand. ... but eventually you loose grip of own understanding . How else you could push panic on a simple flu and give injection? "vaccines" corona virus - officially known as a 'cold' according medical books , so kikes renamed it in to covid ... kek
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514073181
>>514072061
>trans identity
They use the same thought process as afterlife believers. Just like trans people think "they" are distinct from their physical body, people who think "they" will go somewhere after death are saying their identity is distinct from their physical body. If we just concentrated on what was observable reality, then both trannies and Catholics would be seen as wrong.

>>514071813
All the current evils of this era that affect me come from pursuit of making a capital investment more profitable. Pornographers and drug dealers can join the ranks of the upper class alongside polluters and war profiteers because it's a rapper ethic of getting paid yo.
Anonymous (ID: Hn4umW3M) United States No.514073209
matt walsh is one of these retarded conservatives who pretends he can't cook or do laundry
he thinks he's masculine by being a helpless faggot
Anonymous (ID: gqdEE4vX) No.514073894 >>514074810
>>514071820
Why you believe that you need? ...

Just serve life and you will never go hungry , make yourself useful by providing to people service or product . Just copy paste what others do, improving, twisting better.

In reality no one invents anything , it improves by very little steps by time and many peoples contribution.

...did kikes give you diploma to create magic? ....

few years enter ship, until you became made men, then maybe captain or sit on a beard of decision makers , then CEO or under boss ...

In reality pigs feed the dogs that enforce rules written by pigs.

Owners club and hierarchical pyramid of competition to serve them.
Anonymous (ID: WInjXDJa) Netherlands No.514074607 >>514074823
>>514063798
>Christians let Jews live in their nations
the pagan Romans started that though. Catholic Christians actually kept the jews out of scandinavia
Anonymous (ID: t15GrSBJ) United States No.514074797
>>514061765 (OP)
A successful combination of sperm and egg, that was assigned the ability and biology to seed other eggs, that has survived at least 18 years after being born
Anonymous (ID: 0TyTZrOj) United States No.514074810
>>514073894
I don't really disagree with your pov I just don't find religion to add utility to just about anything. I mean, even from the jew perspective, they aren't really channeling energy from the kabbalah or whatever, even if they believe it. Likewise their actions needs to be addressed in physical reality, not in spiritual terms.
Anonymous (ID: R2DSYrv0) United States No.514074822
>>514061765 (OP)
Matt Walsh is a certified glownigger plant whose only objective is to sew more confusion on behalf of his handlers.
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514074823
>>514074607
the pagan romans didn't do it while simultaneously trying to destroy every non-jewish religion in the world
Anonymous (ID: +hp6ELyO) United States No.514075217 >>514075318
>>514072498
What's your fav nietzsche book?
Anonymous (ID: 96rBJZ2N) United States No.514075318
>>514075217