Thread 514067381

Why does America have such a low rate of motorcycle/moped usage compared to other nations? Wouldn't it make more sense for Americans to turn toward more affordable options like small motorcycles as cars become overpriced? And yet, we don't really see this happening.

>give everybody a gigantic SUV or pickup
>and cell phones
Honestly it doesn't make sense to ride a motorcycle here. Mopeds are 100% for cucks though.

Here's a better question - why do they let people drive on the road with those golf carts on steroids they have these days?

>>514067381 (OP)
>dude just die riding a murdercycle

These things. You see these on the road these days. WHY?

>>514067381 (OP)
I got a motorcycle. They aren’t really a replacement for a car. They’re a toy. It’s hard to transport stuff, or people, sucks when bad weather, etc.

Also people drive like retards.

>>514067645
Most motorcycle fatalities are due to operator error/intoxication, failure to wear safety gear, operating in poor weather, etc. Which means that your safety on the road is still largely in your own hands as you ride. Being a responsible operator will protect you in most cases.

>>514067381 (OP)
>Wouldn't it make more sense for Americans to turn toward more affordable options like small motorcycles as cars become overpriced?
Give it a decade or two, after all the new spics and jeets start coming of age to drive.

>>514067381 (OP)
>Driving a motorcycle in America
No thanks I don't want to be rammed into a power line

>>514067381 (OP)
too fat

Because I don't trust the other mostly non-white drivers

also, most countries where people ride two tire vehicles a lot are mostly tropical. But in most of America, you wouldn't want to ride that motorcycle for at least half of the year because of ice on the road. Not a big deal in a car if one single tire slips, but you're fucked if that happens on a bike

Bikes are dor walkable cities9

>>514067995
Only the French with their 10% obesity rate can say this to us. The rest of Europe is getting almost as fat as the USA

>>514067381 (OP)
niggers, the roads are now unsafe.

>>514068222
I know.

>>514067780
>They aren’t really a replacement for a car. They’re a toy.
Pretty much this. It's a hobby that's dying out as each successive generation loses more interest in anything physical or outside. Every year it gets more dangerous as people drive angrier and more distracted.

t. long time rider

>>514067381 (OP)
>lawn mower motor
that's not even a real motorbike, looks like some sort of chinese toy

>>514067632
theyre basically bicycles because theyre restricted to 25mph. theyll be banned once niggers start to get them on the resale market

>>514067381 (OP)
>Why
Jews

>>514069106
They have those e-bikes now that go like 35 MPH too. That shit's already causing chaos. Teens and youths have adapted to them and are using them for rowdy mischief now.

>>514068657
I wonder what the white obesity rate is though. In the US at least, blacks and hispanics have significantly higher rates of obesity than white people. There are still way too many white fatties but I wonder how much of the national statistics are non-white fat fucks

>>514067381 (OP)

niggers driving 18 wheelers

>>514067381 (OP)
>why don't fat cunts ride motorcycles?
Gee I wonder. Half of the country is probably too cold for half of the year so they've got an excuse.

Seriously scary to drive a motorcycle in North America, everyone looking at their cellphones while barely steering a 7-foot-tall SUV with 180-degrees of blindspots. Every single red light you have to be hyper away of someone crashing right into you because they can't see anything they or their auto-braking-system aren't pre-programmed for.

So much nicer to drive unironically in developing countries where people are aware of their surroundings, are looking for signals from other drivers, etc. I feel far safer in Delhi rush house than 1pm in Wichita or whatever since in the former people are awake and aware in the latter they're on faulty autopilot.

>>514067381 (OP)
I already own 2 cars and would like to get a cheap used bike for weekend rides. I’ve never ridden a proper motorcycle, but I used to race BMX and I’ve ridden dirt bikes before. I know how to drive a stick and know motorcycle clutches are way easier. any suggestions for a good beginner bike? maybe something underpowered, I don’t want to be tempted to yeet myself

>>514069219
>teens using them for rowdy mischief

when will the horse hockey and tomfoolery stop?

>>514069462
just make your own with a bunch of chainsaws

>>514069462
If you want to go on the highway you need 200cc min. If you don't want to suicide yourself don't get anything over 650cc. There's a recent renaissance of sweet spot-spot 300-400cc bikes but that wasn't much the case 10-20 years ago when you really needed to choose between the 250 and 650 class mostly.

>>514069619
>have to pull-start 12 chainsaws every time you want to ride
imagine the gains kek

>>514067381 (OP)
>Why does America have such a low rate of motorcycle/moped usage compared to other nations?
Per capita? Because there are millions of motorcycles in America. They're just not used as much for primary transportation due to the long distances and high speeds needed for most transportation requirements in the US

>>514069787
I definitely would need to be capable of going highway speeds for short stretches but I’d be keeping it local. I’ll look at the cc range you quoted, thanks fren

The northern part of the US is winter 8 months of the year and the southern part is hot enough that people die without ac. Motorcycles are nice to have when it's seasonable but it's not practical as a primary vehicle.

>>514069462
Any mid sized twin. Yamaha mt-07 or something like it. Underpowered isn't what you want to learn on, just not overpowered.

It’s because those other nations have a much higher population density overall. There’s a sweet spot of population density which makes motorcycles convenient and anything below or above that sweet spot makes them a pain in the ass. Weather also plays a factor. A motorcycle isn’t exactly a convenient daily in Pittsburgh or Buffalo.

>>514069988
In California I can't understand why anyone drives anything but a motorcycle. Perfect weather all year. Totally legally lane-splitting. Cagies stuck in gridlock while motorcyclists zoom past / around them in a daily occurrence but they never learn.

>>514070024
neato, thank you

>>514067867
Based knower. There's only one situation on a bike that has a disproportionate risk associated for non drunk non adrenalin junkies, and that's getting left turned on while approaching an intersection and that can be mitigated if you bother to pay attention.
>>514069462
Buy anything cheap, sub 1000cc if it's an i4, no displacement limit if a twin, and more than 15 years old. Pavement riding's a little different from dirt and you'll get yourself in trouble if you get too big for your britches and think that your seat time on dirtbikes transfers 100%. Really spend a few rides taking it easy and getting a feel for countersteering and how much bar force it requires to achieve a given turn angle so if something spooks you you don't panic and run wide into a guard rail or curb. Remember, for 99% of riders a bike is physically capable for a lean angle/turning radius at a given speed double that of the point where the rider will panic and lay it down.

>>514070252
Probably because a lot of drivers in California can't speak English and don't even have driver's licenses

>>514067381 (OP)
I'll take Winter for 500 Alex.

>>514069462
DRZ400E or a DR650.

because one out of every three people driving a car on the road is a fat retard who shouldn't be allowed to operate a bicycle let alone have a drivers license

>>514067381 (OP)
I come from a motorcycling family and won't ride on paved roads. No fuckin' way. People are crazy and distracted. I'm currently saving up for a couple of dirtbikes for the wife and I.

>>514067381 (OP)
traditionally its because of Winter. Our most (traditionally) populated states are disastrously cold 6 months out of the year and roads are icy, snowy and unsafe. This created a culture where motorcycles are for summer fun, not basic bitch transportation.

Now that 1/4 of the country lives in regions where its decent motorcycle weather year round (Florida, Texas, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Louisiana) the mentality ersists - bikes for fun, cars for serious transport.

>>514067381 (OP)
you seen how fucking utter brainless drivers are recently? our drivers test is a straight up joke. the extreme majority of people driving in this country, shouldnt.

>>514067381 (OP)
America is rich, and 4 wheels and a roof are better when it rains or snows

>>514067381 (OP)
Uber eats accounts for 99% of moped sales in Sweden.

>>514069462
DRZ400