Thread 514071887

Someone calculated what the minimum wage should be today compared to the '70s in order to afford a home, and I'm literally screaming at the number

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/guy-shared-just-high-minimum-165308542.html

>>514071887 (OP)
look man you won the Fight for 15
Dont be greedy

>Now, Chris's video isn't to suggest that minimum wage, at any point in its history, allowed people to buy homes outright.
They even acknowledge that it's nonsensical
But it's great clickbait nonetheless so who cares

>>514072300
Doesn't that just mean paying for a house with a pile of cash? Surely they could still take out a loan and get a mortgage?

>>514073117
shut up commie you will take your $7 and be grateful your job hasn't been taken by a hardworking indian or mexican who would gladly do it for half as much

>>514071887 (OP)
This doesn’t take into that things are easier now with email, smartphones, the internet, laptops, desktops, fuel efficient cars with ac/warming, hvac in homes, subways, etc…

>>514071887 (OP)
That doesn't make sense. What the minimum wage should be, and what you need to afford a house are two different things. If you are talking about what you need to buy a house, then $66 an hour would make that easy in a city, but if I recall, minimum wage adjusted for inflation would be around $35/hr. Homes prices have outpaced inflation.

>>514074769
>What the minimum wage should be, and what you need to afford a house are two different things
They shouldn't be, the minimum wage should be the dollar amount required for a person to support themselves through a full-time job, otherwise what's the point? It's just an arbitrary number. Might as well have no minimum wage if it doesn't guarantee any quality of life.

>>514072120
lol. I could see a rich guy saying this "come on, we gave you 15 already"

>>514073117
>surely a populace saturated with debt can afford a mortgage
lol, playtime is over kike

>>514071887 (OP)
minumum wage was about 1 oz of silver in 1967 when they took silver out of the money. thats $40 today.
we need to fix the money

>>514071887 (OP)

yep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnVKvsQgw0g

A house is a bit much.

A purely idealized minimum wage should be enough to rent a small 1 room studio apartment, with a toilet, sink, shower, refrigerator and oven. It should be within walking distance of the place offering minimum wage, so that minimum wage doesn't also need to cover the cost of a car.
Enough so that the government shouldn't need to subsidize people making minimum wage, even if they don't make enough to be taxed. Because a Walmart employee getting food stamps is fucking retarded and a huge scam on Walmart's part against America.

I don't think that'll ever happen, but even that faux idealized pixiedust version shouldn't include an entire fucking house.

>minimum wage
>to buy a house

Do you see the problem here or do you need a grown-up to explain it to you?

seems about right for a society thats overvalued with college retards

>>514071887 (OP)
We can’t have high wages anymore because of globalization. Now we have to compete with the 3rd world

if you and your spouse dont make collectively that 66$~ and hours you have to lie cheat and steal to survive

>>514075712
>guarantee any quality of life.
If what you produce isn't equal to or greater than the value of the things to which you feel entitled, who should kick in the difference so that you can have shit you didn't earn?
Do you even have a job now? Have you ever attempted to get a job? What's holding you back from just making yourself more useful and negotiating for better exchange for the goods or labor you create?

>>514077224
>If what you produce isn't equal to or greater than the value
Production has sky rocketed over the decades as wages have stagnated... Workers are being ripped off across the board..
and it's not about buying a house. Anyone working full time should be able to cover solo rent, food and the basics but most can't do it.

>>514076863
It was the norm, considering we live in a country of vast space and natural resources. Then jews like you came along and convinced boomers that only the wealthy should have the opportunity to own homes.

>>514071887 (OP)
The 70s was racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/xenophobic/etc though so it needed to change.

>>514074276
None of these things make life easier. They would make life easier if work expectations remained constant, but instead work expectations scale to negate the benefits of technology. If technology makes you twice as productive you don't work half as many hours, they just hire half as many people. Cars allow you to get to work faster but then car infrastructure leads to sprawl which means you now live even further away from work that pre-cars, meaning nothing has really changed. Etc, etc. Most technology comes with downsides that negate the advantages to the point where it actually makes life less convenient.

It's like how a lot of modern software feels slower than it did in the late 2000s despite massive advances in hardware. Better hardware just enabled lazier less optimized ad-ridden software resulting in a shitter experience for the user.

>>514077224
Nobody works for minimum wage

>>514074276
>b-but technology makes ur life easier:DD
Cool story bro but wage slaving for 8 hours can't buy a house anymore
This >>514076270

>>514073117
>>514074276
...
You are literally taking up loans and paying usurious avarice amounts of (((interest))) for your own labor.

You could work on and build 25 houses and still wouldn't be able to afford one without a crushing loan.
You will also die of stress related symptoms before reaching pension age so the jews will take those money as well.

Truly cattle slavery.

>>514071887 (OP)
I don't think the younger generations realize how fucked we really are. We are in a massive crisis. This is what you can afford making 66/hr, 137k a year, with the most minimal amount of frugal spending on everything else (I haven't even factored in utilities).

If people could actually do the math they would already be rebelling. Those in charge are doing nothing to stop this, they're only helping the rich get richer.

>>514078036
I wonder if that reporter makes 66$/hour..

>>514079273
Seeing this makes me red with anger. My boss's house payment is like 300k A MONTH for a mansion in Beverly Hills. With one month income he could buy me a cheap condo or cabin, yet I have to slave away to live paycheck to paycheck. If his monthly take-home was lowered and he distributed that to his employees, sure he wouldn't have an estate with 24/7 full staff but his employees would have homes of their own...

>>514076514
I have 2 STEM degrees and work for a Fortune 100 company and make less than $23.87 an hour. I literally made more selling cellphones at a store where I was better educated than my coworkers, my boss, his boss, and his boss' boss. I am still a fool for thinking that I might be able to work my way up and have a steady corporate job. I am even more of a fool for thinking a graduate degree might do me any good, as if specialization is going to matter by the time I finish the degree.

>le tick tok video

kiss my ass, sage

>>514071887 (OP)
Minimum wage jobs are for high school kids, the elderly, and downs syndromes. If youre not one of these and youre complaining about it fucking kys.

>>514071887 (OP)
https://youtu.be/q7HMt5MgsDg?

>>514079686
Anon I make 36/hr, 75k a year. I have 10 years experience in my field... In 2 years I'll be bumped up to top pay at 90k a year, THIS IS WHAT I CAN AFFORD. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?! THAT'S THE PRICE OF A FUCKING TRAILER NOW.

>>514073327
Tell daddy thank you while you wait for Republican trickle down economics.

>>514079547
>have 2 STEM degrees and work for a Fortune 100 company and make less than $23.87 an hour.
how?
>your fortune 100 company pays you $2/hr more than in-n-out burger
you have to be a recent grad or an intern

>>514071887 (OP)
Why stop there? Why 66 dollars? It’s a “minimum wage”, it’s arbitrary. So why not 100 dollars and hour? Why not 1000? Oh that’s right because you can’t because there will be no job.

>>514071887 (OP)
Real gold price adjusted is ~700k a year.

The real travesty is the no camping signs, if you cant afford your wage slaves at least let them teach themselves to hunt and fish and trap about the hinterland

>>514077497
Houses are somewhat of a red herring though. Relative to the price of gold houses are actually cheaper now than they were then. If workers were still being paid in gold, even at the 1970s minimum wage, the average house would be more affordable today. At today's minimum wage it would be even more affordable still. The root problem is that houses unofficially replaced gold as the "substance" behind all the financial abstractions, but you aren't being paid in houses.

Back when gold was the official substance behind the financial abstractions you were paid in gold and thus you were paid in substance. Now that houses are the unofficial substance behind the financial abstractions you aren't being paid in houses and so you aren't being paid in substance. This also creates the problem whereby house prices must always increase otherwise the informally house-backed financial system implodes, but if house prices always increase then the economic system is failing at its one-and-only purpose of making the things people need more affordable. This is a classic example of tight coupling, and illustrates precisely why tight coupling is considered evil in fields like software engineering etc. If you want to actually fix the problem you need to "refactor" the economy to eliminate this tight coupling.

>>514079904
It’s by design. Homesteading is the only way out, but you have to figure out how to fudge numbers and move to a place where the gov won’t intrude.

>>514071887 (OP)
That is $137280 a year
This company pays that for a BS in EE and six years of experience
A master in EE gets you a little more
They are here in San Diego

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/KULR/

Loser Home Depot job pays $23.50 for night freight
Less for day shift

>>514081164
Lowe's is dead to me. Their bullshit app screwed me out of my bonus cash after a $1,000 purchase and neither the manager nor customer service even bothered to make an attempt to make it right.

Chang and Habeeb will do it for $3 an hour.
Y'all don't deserve homes. Ong

>>514074769
Oh, easy solution, get rid of zoning restrictions. But you won't. Because boomers couldn't afford to lose the equity in their reverse mortgage and the GDP is to important.

>>514079904
Congrats, you made it

>>514083307
It's literally nothing and I work my ass off for it.

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FED

The problem isn't the minimum wage, it's fractional reserve banking. Increasing the minimum wage will just lead to more inflation.
Go to full reserve banking and the problem solves itself.

>>514083704
Yes, the fed is what enables lending down to 0% reserves.

>>514080378
also yes, killing the gold backing also took the protection off

>>514071887 (OP)
$66/hr?
That's incorrect anon. In 1970, the US dollar was on the gold standard, so it is very easy to calculate the wage then vs now.
In 1970, the minimum wage was $1.60
In 1970, one ounce of gold was exactly $35, because of the gold standard.
The price of gold today is about $3385
https://www.kitco.com/charts/gold
Therefore, the minimum wage in 1970, in today's dollars is
(3385/35) * 1.60 = $154.74
That was the minimum wage in 1970. The lowest wage you could earn in the United States.

>>514071887 (OP)
>$66/hr
I swear the horseshoe theory is real, and you limp dick faggots are no different than the whores who go "hurr durr my dream man needs to be making $300k/yr at age 25". At least women have the legitimate excuse of being dumbasses, you incel mfers are just legit copers. I support a wife, home, and kid with much less then $66/hr, probably 2/3rds of that

>>514079904
Your debt/monthly expenses are too high before mortgage

>>514079273
The problem are fucking retarded male KEKS who let their wives and gf work. Dual income households ruin everything, it's essentially the same inflationary bullshit as when Mexicans or Indians cram multiple people per bedroom in a metro home or apartment. People fucking jacking up prices because they PAY it to begin with

>>514074276
>yeah but humans have progressed in every other department as proven by the multiple examples in my post, why should your wage also progress)”?
Do you know how fucking retarded you sound? Lmfao

>>514071887 (OP)
If you make min wage 66 then houses will go up in price till you need 300 an hour to afford a home. This is how socialism destroys economies.

Never, ever, never was minimum wage affording a house. Jesus Christ, you people are insane.
This is why we hate you.

>>514080378
>the average house would be more affordable today
An ounce of gold today is the same ounce of gold
A house today is built out of cheap cardboard instead of bricks. Unlike gold, houses are not fungible commodities.
So of course houses are more "affordable" today compared to 1970. They're built out of garbage. 1970 minimum wage was $154/hr so naturally, the didn't want to buy a cardboard box house if brick was only 2-3x as expensive.

>>514071887 (OP)
>linear extrapolation w/o considering any other factors
You make a great argument against minimum wage: it is only ever used by retards who deserve none.

>>514071887 (OP)
What does /pol/ think about Ron Paul wanting to abolish the minimum wage?

>>514085788
>linear extrapolation w/o considering any other factors
anon, it can be directly calculated >>514084464

>>514071887 (OP)
>Minimum wage
>Homeowner
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>514084464
That just means anybody who worked minimum wage in 1970 could afford two and a half houses

>>514072120
>>514072300
It's like $24k per month if you account for taxes

>>514085471
Literally not how it worked in the era these numbers are being built from. House prices were fewer multiples of a year's wages in the 70's. They had more purchasing power AND relatively lower home prices.

>>514081607
Boohoo nigger, nobody cares. Take it up with the online side of the company, not in the stores like a whiny bitch. Nobody in the store has any control over anything on the app. Are you retarded to think otherwise?

>>514085867
>>514084464
Agreed.
Only decent post ITT.
Sadly, the same people who complain about the consequences of dollar devaluation support the effects that lead to dollar devaluation.

>>514084464
154.74 x 2080 (fulltime hours) = $321,859 (your yearly salary)

Current average US home price is around $550,000. So around 2 years full net income pays your house off (with expenses probably like 5 years).

1970 average US home price was $20,000. Minimum wage was $1.40/hr, fulltime salary $2,912. So more like 8 years to pay off your house without any expenses after taxes. Realistically around 20.

So no not really but still, minimum wage paying off a house is beautiful. You could actually achieve that with a 30 year mortgage, and that's the AVERAGE NATIONAL home price back then. Yes houses were more affordable. But your math is off, we would need about $40/hr minimum wage to equal the min wage of 1970. But the minimum wage is fucking $7.25 nationally and even in the most left of state only $16/hr and moving to $20/hr, still only half a survivable rate.

>>514071887 (OP)
so get a girlfriend with a do nothing job and get your own do nothing job that pays at least 33 dollars an hour and you guys are all set.

>>514072120
Im literally shaking right now

when will people admit the federal reserve is the core issue in all of this

>>514077470
>Production has sky rocketed
So go produce yourself a house or whatever other luxuries you wish to enjoy. If you're so fucking productive why are you in here crying about minimum wage.
>>514084464
>in 1970 the kid checking your oil and pumping gas was being paid in gold doubloons!
>>514079473
>My boss's house payment is like 300k A MONTH for a mansion in Beverly Hills.
... and then everybody on the bus started to clap!
>>514081832
>lose the equity in their reverse mortgage
.... and then one day, for no reason whatsoever the Jews decided you were all just cattle.

You stupid faggots are still trapped in the hamster wheel. It's all meaningless. LOL

>>514087010
demographics, foreign policy and economic issues are all that matters. the rest are petty issues put on a pedestal and served for the midwit masses to fight over.

>>514071887 (OP)
One thing everyone forgets is that before 1990, most loans and credit had >10% rates.

>>514071887 (OP)
Fun fact:
Even if you never rented in your life, you were forced to pay for kikes to build their apartments and other investments against your will. Here's how:

>Kike wants income stream without working
>Kike goes to banker-kike for loan
>Banker-kike has no money on deposit
>Banker-kike creates new money thanks to fractional reserve lending, aka modern era coin clipping
>Kike builds apartments
>Kike collects rent
>Banker-kike collects interest
>You, the goy, ignorantly pay for both through inflation, convinced that it's only government spending that causes inflation

You've been a slave your whole life. Inflation is how kikes clip your coins without ever touching them, while simultaneously giving you a pay cut since wage increase always lag behind inflation.

Too many people and not enough homes. Simple as that. Renting is also expensive. A single landlord could own all the homes in the country and because there is too many people, he could charge whatever rent he wanted. Our “leaders” have flooded every single country in the first world with trash immigrants that will live a dozen or more to a house.

>>514086510
Could have been easily solved by the manager showing good will. If every level of your company is anti-customer than I'm anti-your store. That's capitalism, bitch. Don't like it? Leave the fucking country. See how you do in china.

>>514080056
>>514081164
A paramedic makes less than $20 an hour.

>>514071887 (OP)
My boomer dad made somewhere in the $20/h but he worked overtime so we were rich as fuck because he wasn't a lazy bum like you retards.

>>514071887 (OP)
A high school dropout in 1940 making the equivalent of $4.65 USD an hour for a 40 hour work week, paid less in rent than someone today.

>>514088443
EMT is less than 20, paramedic requires a 2 year degree and can get you up to like 28 in the highest paying states. That won't get you a house in said states though.

>>514088950
>paid less in rent than someone today.
THIS ONLY MEANS THAT WE NEED MORE SHITSPICS AND JEETS FLOODING OUR COUNTRIES!!!

>>514088587
20/hr in the 1990s is like 200/hr an hour now

>>514089401
Oh I wasn't offering an example. I'm a paramedic making less than $20 an hour. The gas station employees make the same hourly as we do here.

>>514088443
The problem isn't minimum wage it's what people view as fair wage

>>514089807
Re-do the math, anon, you are substantially underestimating.
20 dollars an hour in the 90's is equal to 6 gorillion dollars an hour today.

>>514071887 (OP)
boomers could buy a shitty house after working at mcdonalds for a year

>>514072120
Reminder that the fight for 15 ended when Trump took office and the economy got better for a little bit

>The minimum wage
>To afford a house
>The 70s
>Today
I cant begin to explain how fucking stupid this is
Do regular people really not understand that housing markets and labor markets are different things?
Seriously, people can't be this stupid
$66 an hour?
That's what you think is going to fix everything?
Holy shit
>I'm literally screaming at the number!!1
Stop
Eating
Play-Doh

>>514090077
>Reminder that the fight for $3.50 ended when Trump took office and the economy got better for a little bit

>>514089991
>6 gorillion
oy vey!

>>514084556
It's called demoralization and astroturfing. When I made 60k per year my bank said I could borrow up to something around 430k.But they wanted 5% interest. No way I'd borrow more than a hundred with the rest being a 50%+ downpayment. Ship of fools.

>>514089807
Nah it was the 70-80s, he retired in the 90s at 55 after putting in 25 years at the tractor factory. Then he did construction with his cousins for the next 25 years just to keep busy. No college education he died a multi millionaire.

>66
it was actually 338 dollars
you need to use silver price

>>514090759
this was during Henry Ford's days

>>514071887 (OP)
1pbtid

>>514090759
>it was actually 338 dollars
>you need to use silver price

Even worse if you use gold or platinum.
[Keking in Gen X]
You guys are fucked.
Die well.

>>514088391
Boohoo they will fail without your money I guess.

>>514071887 (OP)
Well the fucked up the calculation big time because minimum wage should be zero dollars.

>>514091419
They will. And so will you. Without our cooperation. Without our consent. And without our protection. You will die.

>>514092435
>My wallet makes me a god. The store manager and employees didn't remedy a problem they had nothing to do with, so I got angry with them and then threatened to never shop there again. They should be gazing in solemn awe at me as I walk away.
You don't make anyone nervous, boomer.

>>514071887 (OP)
Aren't your parents helping you out with buying one?

Based off gold, true minimum wage in canada adjusted for inflation would be 157 $ an hour. Inflation calculators are lying.
> price of gold in 1972 cad 45 $
> price of gold today 4,768
>4768 Divided by 45 =105
> average minimum wage in 1972 was 1.50
> 1.50 x 105 = 157

>>514071887 (OP)
Why do you Jews always make shit up
I had a minimum wage job at a liquor store job in 1970 $1.70 an hour.
That’s about $14.00 an hour today.
And no you could not live on $1.70 an hour in 1970. It was basically pocket change.

>>514093871
Gold is $3400 an ounce

>>514094161
in US not CAD retard, believe it or not we have different currency up here called loonies.

>>514074769
1970-2022 shadowstats inflation is 1.30 -> $75

The gap between the rich and the middle/low classes gets bigger over time. They want us all to be poor insects living in small apartments. Nowadays, at least here in Finland, you cannot become rich by working a job, you have to be an entrerpreneur, the income taxes are too high to become rich otherwise. Also the rich circumvent taxes all the time, shifting money between their companies and avoiding over-taxing by all means.

>>514094161
Do you not see the fucking cad in the greentext? Idiots like you need to get off this board.

>>514094383
Same here, we are so fucked, they are using temporary foreign workers as slaves to push wages down. I will never own a home, soon rents will be too high for working people.

>>514080056
Ur a nigger, ur life sucks

you come here to talk shit and feel marginally better about yourself and your shitty life

>>514094066
Wage Index isn't equivalent value. People keep getting sold these retarded metrics about equivalent pay relative to other Americans, because average wages are tanking. Or equivalent standard of living, which robs you of GDP growth, and gets winnowed down to the bone by increasingly gay rules every year.

If you're going to define inflation as cost increase, which is retarded but I'll work with it, you have to demand equal material purchasing power.

>>514094703
this is an excellent post

>>514087061
I wonder what value you bring to the table inbred retard

>>514076514
Anyone under the age of 30 doesn't remember entry level jobs.

>in the early 90s and 2000s there were entry level positions
>drafting assistant for example, could lead to becoming a CAD Tech
>assistants started at roughly equivalent 26.44/hr
>do the position for a year or two, challenge the CAD tech exam, and get a boost up to somewhere between 41.66 to 57.69

Construction was the same. I knew guys who did it in the summer in highschool for roughly the equivalent of 28.04/hr now.

What happened in Canada? TFWs, and contracting globally.

>>514076863
What is a minimum wage supposed to accomplish? Why should 4 walls and a roof be so expensive?

>>514100471
>Why should 4 walls and a roof be so expensive?
We are just cattle getting milked

>>514079473
then kill your boss you cuck slave

ask your oldest living relative what year they started working and how much they made
adjust it for inflation using any CPI calculator

$50+ min wage isn't unreasonable when you realize how utterly fucked the money supply has been since the 80s

you're being fed crumbs and conditioned to say thank you

>>514071887 (OP)
Something feels off here.

I make like 90 an hour on avg and like 60% of it effectively gets paid to taxes.

>>514074276
this is either bait or a 76IQ jeet post

>>514079273
Im 100% checked out. I will never wage again Im just waiting until the shooting starts

>>514079473
So fucking mask up and rob him you stupid cowardly little faggot. Fuck whites

>>514079904
This is why I laughed when an HR cunt recently offered me 80k to do a high stress job, juice aint worth the squeeze

>>514106392
>Im just waiting until the shooting starts
dangerously based

>>514074276
boomer, bait, or jeet, call it

>>514079473
Fuck his wife

>>514071887 (OP)
>minimum wage shit
the problem isn't more regulation, the problem is government, jews and niggers

47$ is what is needed, except raising the min wage won't fix the fact that you earn less because mexicans exist and niggers. You money goes to nigger healthcare and incarceration, jewish wars, and mexican baby welfare. If they raise the min wage, you will just pay 4x for groceries and rent. You are a slave

>>514080378
Goldtards don't understand that your shiny rock is yet another Jewish trick.
They have access to the Earth's core in Antarctica, where they can print infinite gold if the goyim notice too much and switch to gold.

>>514084464
Problem is there was already fractional reserve in place so the gold price was fake, so it's way less than 150$

>>514071887 (OP)
hard to dissagree
even in poorland we spend half of our money on gibs, we spend 5% of our budget on supporting hohols instead of leaving it in the country

>>514071887 (OP)
the minimum wage should be as high as it needs to be until every single person that is part of your VOLK is out of poverty
>b-but what about the stock options.
STFU. work camp awaits you nigger

jews need not apply

>>514084464
Exquisite Posting

>>514086190
>That just means anybody who worked minimum wage in 1970 could afford two and a half houses
not necessarily; the prices of houses went x10

>>514087406
Spread awareness.

>>514090270
>No way I'd borrow more than a hundred with the rest being a 50%+ downpayment. Ship of fools.
Someone else would do it and price you out.

>>514084093
This is true.
Larger income just means you would be forced to take larger mortgage from bank, and you will still pay same 35-50% of your income for home as mortgage payments.
Stop fractional reserve banking aka money printing by private banks NOW!

>>514071887 (OP)
As minimum wage goes up, it makes Gifted and the Smart more like ungifted and the stupid.
>To someone who advocates for minimum wage:
>You need to take time every day and deal with someone who makes minimum wage. You will immediately reverse your opinion.
>"Minimum wage" should be a fucking negative nuber.

>>514072120
>>514071887 (OP)
kek

>>514087406
>Even if you never rented in your life, you were forced to pay for kikes to build their apartments and other investments against your will
solution is rather simple:
- do not save money in the bank
- invest in real estate (group buy land) because it hedges against inflation
- only work if you need money
- don't get a mortgage
- learn how to build your own house (save money and taxes twice)
- buy your food in bulk directly from farmers

The idea is to use money as little as you can. The longer you hold on to money, the more wealth you lose. So the trick is to earn money only when you need to make a purchase and then immediately make the purchase.

You want to transfer the money that earn into real estate that you own as fast as possible.

You start by buying land. You put your trailer on it. You work some more until you have enough saved to build the foundation for the house. Then you work some more and complete the next phase of the build and so on and so forth....

That's how it's done. Bonus points if you can find like minded individuals/families and build a multifamily unit together; you'll save even more.

Don't whine about the economy because you just waste time. Figure out solutions to the problems and start dreaming and find people who dream the same thing and make it happen.

>>514109135
oh and avoid paying (federal) taxes like the plague

>>514073327

While most Mexicans and some pajeets do work hard, you really can't compare the two. Picking food crops is hard and sometimes back breaking work and is usually done by Mexicans because Americans normally don't want to do those agricultural jobs. Being a food handler at a fast food restaurant is a whole lot more easy but those jobs are being taken by foreign pajeets putting actual Canadian citizens out of jobs. Computer tech jobs are difficult but not the physical difficulty of agricultural jobs and there are many Americans willing to do those tech jobs. But pajeets take those tech jobs because they work for smaller salaries. This is why tech CEOs like Elon Musk (originally from South Africa and is larpi,g as an American) prefer foreign Pajeets over Americans.

>>514079273
Rebel how? Name a situation where rebellion worked in the past 50 years here