Thread 514079372

>>514079372 (OP)
Gatekeeping

The American medical association put a cap on residencies a few decades ago and now we're reaping (American doctors are now paid more than twice what they are in peer countries)

You can reverse the cap but it'll take another few decades for supply to return to normal (probably longer since demand for medical services is increasing quite fast with our aging population)

>>514079372 (OP)
They made non compete clauses for doctors illegal so now they need a new source of indentured servants

>>514079372 (OP)
No one want to work in shit hole
Be they urban or rural
The military already does this
The have their own MD accreditation
That is why you have so many So. Asian doctors working on shit hole bases

>>514079372 (OP)
>take doctors from depleted shitholes
>depleted shitholes remain even more shitholes
brilliant

Affirmative Action has been keeping qualified Whites and Asians out of college. The Left loves talking about how diverse colleges have become, but they don't tell you that the unqualified Black and Brown students drop out at very high rates.

I read somewhere that In the US foreign doctors were about 25% of the doctors, but responsible for 50% of malpractice suits.

>>514079372 (OP)
>Increase population with a ton of shitskins
Oy vey, where are all the doctors?

>>514079372 (OP)
America really is a shithole

>>514079372 (OP)
40% of white voters are MIGA and tea party, you think they have the smarts to get through med school? hahaha what a fucking dumb question

>>514079372 (OP)
Is it just me or did they accidentally use a thumbnail of an inmate?

hmm i wonder why they want all critical jobs to be filled with disloyal niggers

>>514079372 (OP)
Nevada was built by kikes and the italian mafia (italians being the biggest cucked cryptokikes). Are you surprised?

>>514079799
This is kind of true, your associations do keep the numbers artificially low. But if you look around the western world this is being done everywhere in some form or another so it wouldn't have made a difference anyway.

>>514081517
Look at the rates in the UK and here. Yes they're a complete liability.
Heard a great story over 15 years ago of one of these foreign doctors in residency, motorbike accident victim comes in, it's the rider. What's the first thing he does? He takes the guys helmet off, yeah he didn't complete residency.

>>514079372 (OP)
>you need foreign doctors
>why
>so you can bring in more foreigners
That's the logic.

>>514082182
I know, it's so bad I'm moving to Slovenia.

>>514082813
I wondered that myself.

>>514082813
No difference.

>>514079372 (OP)
its gatekept by how much it costs to even become a doctor
and instead of trying to lower that price our government just gave up and decided that "well no more doctors in america unless they're rich!"
i don't see these foreign trained doctors even staying in the US after they make their fortune, or even having their kids go to our med schools
i mean why would you?

>>514079372 (OP)
I have family that refused Vax while working in hospitals l. Having been put on administrative leave and not fired so they couldn't get unemployment or sue.
A lot, of their friends died from the required max vaccing they did to keep their jobs.

>514079372
>this is a state-level decision
What are (((they))) sliding today?

>>514079372 (OP)
Good. Smart people will avoid the foreign doctors.

>>514083375
>its gatekept by how much it costs to even become a doctor
the cost is secondary to the time committment
most homemade doctors are super pissed off by the fact that they had
>K-12 education
>4 years of undergraduate
>4 years of medical school
>3-7 years of residency training
>1-3 years of optional fellowship
before they can even first earn a reasonable wage to pay off their debts
when finally at the door of the promised land, the academic systems and private equity corporations have bought out all the small practices and independent firms, so they still remain in gilded handcuffs, because it is too cost prohibitive now to practice independently.
>tldr: doctors went to from majority private practice to majority system employees after Obamacare passed

>use DEI to fill your schools with literal retarded niggers

"OMG OUR UNIVERSITYS CANNOT PRODUCE ENOUGH DOCTORS, WHAT EVER IN THE WORLD COULD BE THE ISSUE?!?"
"I PUT BROWNS AND WOMEN IN ALL THE IMPORTANT ROLES AND NOW THINGS ARE NOT WORKING?!?!"

>>514083088
Residents are fucking morons regardless of nationality. When I worked in health care a resident in her first week killed a woman because she didn't realize that a 400+ pound person needed the special fatty operating tables. The upright support literally snapped in half and the whale's skull took a golf ball sized divot out of the concrete floor under the thick rubber stress resistant flooring tiles. The doctor was white.

practicing medfag here
>>514079514
this is true. residencies were capped and keeps the field from getting flooded and devaluing our worth
>>514080758
also true. i regret not checking the spic box when they asked me my demographics. i'd be in a lot less debt because of dei gibs.
>>514083375
im unfortunately not wealthy or rich. my parents debtmaxxed, so 17 year old me had to sign off on loans with 12% interest rates for undergrad. All the while my guidance counselors said don't sweat it you'll be able to pay it off. Became financially literate a few years later and realized that my only way out of this was to get a job with a high income.
>>514083548
It's a mixed bag. Some of my colleagues are foreign born and wayyy more talented or intelligent than me. It's very hard for foreigners to get into an American residency. The ones who do make it through American residency programs tend to be the best of the best from their respective countries. On the other hand, if you start allowing alternate pathways (like in OP's pic) where their talents don't get vetted first, then that's a huge red flag. But here's the thing, this shit is already happening because of DEI initiatives. they're matriculating crappy med students who are black and hispanic to try and hit race quotas. Thankfully, a lot of these people wash out in residency or medical school. But man, I could immediately tell which of my classmates were dei quota.
>>514083900
what's your specialty, bro?

>>514079372 (OP)
Because when it cost 100k a year, and it takes 10 years to become a specialist, only the very rich can afford a $1m student loan to pay for.

>>514079372 (OP)
Doctors are criminals no exceptions.

>>514079372 (OP)
>why aren't there enough American doctors?
Genuinely because of pay rigging.
They artificially limit the amount of people who can become doctors and give some bullshit like
>there isn't enough residency slots as is! we have to tard wrangle inept 20 somethings one mistake away from committing murder!
meanwhile the majority of admissions to medical school (and funnily enough ivy leagues) are legacy admissions.

It's to keep the money in a small groups hands, and they're about to be grossly undercut.

>>514079799
>>514079514
Let's just flood the space with niggers and Jews, I'm sure this won't lead to billions of dollars in malpractice lawsuits, and therefore higher insurance premiums as well as a reduced supply of doctors that are actually qualified due to under prepared foreign competition.

>>514084428
>meanwhile the majority of admissions to medical school (and funnily enough ivy leagues) are legacy admissions.
I was shocked by how few people in my class of about 150 had no family members in medicine. I think there were maybe 20 of us. It's an old boys club.

>>514083900
>when finally at the door of the promised land, the academic systems and private equity corporations have bought out all the small practices and independent firms, so they still remain in gilded handcuffs, because it is too cost prohibitive now to practice independently.

This is what's turned me off of medicine, I am so absolutely sick and god damn tired of private equity douchebags and ''practice managers'' (that never correct anybody if they assume they're a doctor because secretly they want to be one) going "oh is there value here that I can extract the fuck out of without adding anything?? oh wow wee yes please!" and then turning doctors into borderline fast food workers in 15 minute timeslots.

Go overtime? Expect a "follow up email" from some fuckwad that knows absolutely nothing about medicine asking you why.
>>514084106
Dude I knew with a first aid certificate that you don't take the helmet off a motorbike crash victim, out of curiosity what happened to your resident.

>be doctor
>Spend 70% of your time fighting with (((insurance companies)))
This is why we keep killing ourselves

>>514083900
>muh obamacare
have you never heard of hmo networks? most doctors were working for someone else well before 2009 retard

>>514084625
Gone before the lawyers even got someone to take away the operating table that sat in the hallway mummified with caution tape for almost a week.

>>514084222
checked
internist, primary care, no specialty
got the hell out of academia at first the chance, and joined a local private practice 3 years ago, that was teetering on selling out but thankfully hasn't... yet.
how about you, mdfren?

>>514084576
Pretty much all prestigious and well paying jobs are gatekept by familial connections these days.
Meritocracy is almost dead with only the best and lucky bloodily clawing their way up..

>>514079372 (OP)
Foreigners get grants to study medicine. Americans get debt.

>>514084997
PM&R. it's not awful, but my goal when I grow up is to be a goose farmer. I'm too scared to make the jump to private practice with all the debt I owe. Might be something I do later in life, but more likely, I'll just be a farmer who doesn't owe the banks a red cent.

>>514079372 (OP)
That guy looks like a felon, not a doctor
In reality this is probably another jeet loophole since we already know they share fake credentials

If true, that has got to be such a slap in the face to american doctors... American doctors pay WAY more for their degree, and have massive student loans, and are now competing for a job with some foreigner that got shitty free training

>>514079372 (OP)
Because med school slots are wasted on women who immediately get pregnant and quit working 3 years into practicing. See also - diversity retards.

>>514081517
If your doctor isn't a god fearing old european/asian man, you're probably going to die.

>Roughly 12,000,000 Americans are misdiagnosed each year.

Medical errors cause an estimated 250,000 deaths in the United States annually.

>https://mymedicalscore.com/medical-error-statistics/

In Canada, medical errors and hospital-acquired infections claim between 30,000 and 60,000 lives annually.

>https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/kathleen-finlay/medical-error-deaths_b_8350324.html

Its the same in the USA & Canada, medical doctor/nurse caused death is the #3 killer

>>514081517
Medical worker here. We have a jeet hospice doctor that constantly has language barrier issues. Let that sink in.

>>514085411
legit, don't let your dreams be memes. mine is to purchase a ranch and run a direct care medspa.
the debts are manageable if you live like a resident for a while, i just broke even this year and it feels good to finally see a positive savings balance.
making the jump to private practice is risky. solo practice is too expensive up front, and you will get burnt out from managing all the admin stuff. group practice is ephemeral as any equity is contingent on making partnership, which right now is just a dangled imaginary carrot, because the owners can easily sell out to private equity firms at any time.

>>514086152
In my experience, male African American doctors are usually very humble and know what they're doing. It's the female ones that constantly have attitudes, panic, or don't know how to use a computer. The pure African doctors literally can't speak english.

>>514085833
we do, actually

>>514079372 (OP)
The brown guy does not look like a doctor. He exudes zero professionalism.
All this dumb shit will do is bring in brown rapists larping as "doctors"

>>514079372 (OP)
because med schools prioritized accepting women who work as doctors for 5 years before fucking off to be house wives.

>>514079372 (OP)
Imagine getting under the scalpel of a literal nigger

>>514086895
sheeeeeit

>>514079799
The irony of this policy created more overworked doctors than it did create wealth for them. Most drop out and change careers once their loans are paid off.

>>514084524
Jeets not jews

>>514086474
I've got a colleague doing a med spa. He's IM, private practice, fucking hustles (and practices scary medicine with the amount of patients he sees). he was probably clearing $2M a year before the med spa, but the med spa broke even after a year or two of being open, so I imagine he's making even more now.

>>514084222
hopefully you can get placed at a hospital that has like a 5 or 10-year debt forgiveness plan

>>514084897
God bless the Kaiser slaves, they are something else. but my point is that independent private firms have been declining steadily since that law passed.
it introduced a lot of administrative bloat and compliance testing, and tried to ease it down with shared cost-shaving from "accountable care organizations" which basically was the groundwork for system capture.
>tldr: hey private doc, you don't have EMR, nor a supply chain, nor credentialing with the dozen new fee-for-service payors that emerged overnite from state exchanges. allow my system to take care of that for you, and i will certainly not use that leverage to needlessly saddle you with metrics until you are ready to sell your practice, to guess who, certainly not my parent company.

>>514079372 (OP)
Within 5 years, all medical doctors will be immigrants using AI. ... And nurses will be hired per shift using an app like Uber. This is the actual plan of the healthcare industry.

Cartel gatekeeping + revoking the licenses of any medical practitioners who questioned the Clot Shot

>>514087062
And then ((they)) stopped publishing these stats in 2016. Really makes you think!
>>514087209
I'm holding out for PSLF. I'm about halfway done.

>>514079372 (OP)
Because the medical schools only accept brown students.
It's pretty much illegal to accept a white student to a university if you could instead enroll a brown student.
This is because white students hold institutional power over the universities and secretly control the levers of admissions.

>>514079372 (OP)
because you gave niggers and women free education instead of white men

>>514087849
You don't "educate" a nigger. You pay for its daycare to keep it out of truancy, and then you give it a paper to transfer it to a "work" daycare through DEI.
Women, you just need to keep them busy until their eggs dry out. Then dump them out as Walmart greeters.

>>514079372 (OP)
the american medical system is essentially a guild system, with a board of review who assigns liscences based on regional need. You literally can not become a doctor without their approval. To keep medical costs high for the consumer, and low for the provider, they intentionally restrict the amount of licensed doctors allowed in any given area.

Now that theyve completely stretched legal doctorship to its maximium, in order to cut costs further they are attempting to fill in the gaps with more nursing staff, and cheaper forign trained doctors.

these people are traitors to you and your society. they unironically need to be rounded up, arrested, and executed to serve as an example of what happens when some middle men faggots take profiteering too far. they have utterly sabotaged the american medical system and we are all collectively in danger because of their actions.

>>514087176
shhh, that's the plan, amigo.
some folks like your colleague can grind it out now, probably augmenting their income with a ton of well compensated in-office procedures. the dream is to be able to get to that comfy flow state and sustain for as long as possible. grinding is the antithesis of that.
talk to your friend and try to get in some side working on the medspa, use ultrasound, do joint injections or botox or something. you will learn a ton of neat quick billable procedures.
for all the hours we spent as residentfags doing the gruntwork, very little of it was ever spent understanding how the actual health care dollar made. optimal E&M coding to most is some arcane art.

>>514087210
it's disingenuous to pretend like it was obamacare's fault when those were already longtime trends in the industry, especially when the law was specifically meant to address said trends. I think it was a mistake but let's not pretend like the only reason it went through congress was because of bloated centralized corporate health fuckery

>>514087235
it'll be trades too, the whole goal is to turn anything skilled into a mcjob

Yo, nurse
Yes, doctor?
Bitch, I tol you scalpel
I'm sorry, doctor
Quit ya triflin and tell me da Bloods pressure
You mean blood pressure?
Bloods up, Crips down, nawmsayn? Heh, sheeeit.
Doctor, we're losing him
I aint finna lose shit. You wake his azz up. Til then, Im on break, I need a grape soda

>>514079372 (OP)
Cuba pay 10% of what Americans do and they live longer and are healthier over all and have lower infant mortality. We should fire all American doctors and replace them with Cubans.

>>514079372 (OP)
you need a lifesaving surgery. You want the best trained surgeon in the world? or the best trained surgeon in america?

>>514091610
I want the best team available. I just want the doctor to know what he needs to do and trust everybody else to make that happen.

>>514083900
>because it is too cost prohibitive now to practice independently
How strange, we have a shitload of independent doctors, there's a GP on every corner, some even do minor surgery, and it's often free or very low cost. And we don't have male infant genital mutilation. Feels good to be white.

education is skewed female so we train tons of women using women metrics but then they dont work enough hours or they just completely drop out to have kids

>>514091610
what a fuckin retard lol

>you can't get any sort of useful medication until you see a DOCTOR okay!! you HAVE to go in to see a doctor!! You may think you have a flu and can just take tamiflu, but you need to pay $300 to get the PRESCRIPTION from a doctor okay!!
>you can't be trusted to care for yourself, just trust the heckin experts!!

>>514079372 (OP)
So . . . how does capitalism work again?

>>514079372 (OP)
Nothing wrong with a brown MD telling maga medicaid trailer trash that they're terminal and they should hurry to /ptg/ and get out their last Awoos! Only fitting for haters that don't deserve to live.

I'd rather die.

I thought there was a "cap" on how many doctors there can be in like America, even tho there's more people willing to become one.
Why not raise this cap instead of important foreign workers?

>>514093017
But anon... you ARE the doctor

>>514079372 (OP)
Gatekeeping