Thread 514085519

show me a definitive proof that ukraine is a real country and not some made up fake shit

>>514085519 (OP)
they're like belgium that has no language, i wouldn't even call belgium a real country

luxembourg has a language, but not belgium... or ukraine

>>514085519 (OP)
You mean kiev? The russian city?

>>514085519 (OP)
Russia is a mongol slave colony, it isn't real

>>514085519 (OP)
you could argue that about any country, but Ukraine seems more real than Canada.
I don't even know what Canada is besides maple syrup, aboot and red dudes on horses drowning in a sea of brown shit from india.

Why is your president killing hundreds of thousands of your people over 20% of this made up fake shit

>>514085699
ITS KJYF BIGOT

no real country = no true scotsman

>>514085519 (OP)
It has a fascinating history.
Have you read Always With Honor by Pyotr Wrangel ?
Amazing story relevant to the region.
I'm guessing you can't buy a cheap copy from Amazon try this:
https://kyl.neocities.org/books/[HIS%20WRA]%20always%20with%20honor.pdf

>>514085839
Ironic considering your flag anon.

>>514085519 (OP)
This is velikoruski chauvinism, you are a mongoloid subhuman

>>514085519 (OP)
it has a permanent population
it has defined territory
it has a government
it has the capacity to enter into relations with other countries
thus it's a country

>>514086177
The difference is I don't make posts implying America is real

>>514085519 (OP)
There are houses on my street that have been around since before Moscow exercised any authority over what is now Ukraine. If you want to take the position that Ukraine is a fake country then Poland has a better claim to it than you do.

Really, as someone whose country has had more or less the same borders for over a thousand years, all this bickering over which parvenu has the better "historical" claim to territory just seems incredibly childish. You're all fake countries whose borders flow back and forth like the changing of the tides.

What it all really boils down to is this: you wanted their land, you tried to take it, you failed. The last three years have just been Russia being to proud to admit it's fucked itself, and if that's what you want to waste your time on then we can't stop you, but don't ask us to pretend that your suicidal tendencies have some greater historical justice to them.

>>514085519 (OP)
Your country is 100 jewish oligarchs and their pet rape ape.

Mine too, desu

show me a definitive proof that russia is a real country and not some made up fake shit

>>514086415
I don't get what goes on in these pajeets' minds when they claim Ukraine is a fake country and Ukrainians are Russians while also claiming the Neo-Nazi NATO backed xoxols are genociding the Russian population in the Donbabwe

>>514086382
>it has a permanent population
Subject to violent change, therefore quite impermanent.
>it has defined territory
Which gets redefined by powers beyond their control. The borders are irrelevant as a result.
>it has a government
Does it now?
>it has the capacity to enter into relations with other countries
Vassalic servitude is not a relation. It is submission.
>thus it's a country
No.

>>514086728
Russian propaganda is designed to work on the average Russian... i.e. people who've suffered a lifetime of malnutrition, lack of education, and alcohol abuse.

So while the 'logic' of Russia's arguments might not make any sense to us, it works a lot better on third-worlders.

>>514087127
and yet its has permanent population
it's not the north pole
>Which gets redefined by powers beyond their control. The borders are irrelevant as a result.
no where does it say it must control it
>Does it now?
yes
>Vassalic servitude is not a relation. It is submission.
shittiest mental gymnastics attempt i ever encountered

>>514085864
couldn't say it better myself

>>514087545
>"Russia-USA proxy war"
Our president is bending over backwards to help you, and you still use this cope. Just get in your knees and beg other countries to win your war for you at this point

>>514087678
your president is a fucking retard surrounded by other retards, you're not supposed to say these things out loud.

>>514085864
>>514087545
The real tragedy of this war is that no matter how much of Ukraine's territory changes hands, Russia has already lost.

Putin's nostalgia for the Tsarist days means he behaves like Russian fertility is still 7.4 children per woman, solving military problems by throwing wave after wave of men at them. In fact, it's around 1.4 now. Russia already had a critical demographic deficit left over from the hard years following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and now Putin has killed or crippled a sizeable chunk of the demographic most important to the economy, young males. The objective of the 'special operation' was to restore Russian power to the glory days of pre-1989, but the economic and demographic damage done will mean that Russia loses its grip on its satellite states even faster. It's already happening; Armenia has looking for other patrons after its conflict with Azerbaijan, and Central Asia is turning towards China.

No matter what happens now, all that death and misery has been for nothing.

>>514086382
>it has a permanent population
Rapidly displaced by war, migrating jews, and future plan to flood the country with 3rd world slave labor
>it has defined territory
you're joking right? that changes daily
>it has a government
it has a jewish gang run from god knows where
>it has the capacity to enter into relations with other countries
with approval from british/american/israeli intelligence services only
>thus it's a country
and i am batman

>>514085519 (OP)
>show me a definitive proof that ukraine is a real country
Not sure a slavnigger like you can understand it... but it's a real geographic place. People live there, for real. And those people don't want to be part of the Soviet Union or whatever the fuck you retards call it now days. Those are the only requirements to "be a real country". Hopefully they're siphoning off enough nuclear fuel from one of their plants to build a Nagasaki, I'm sure someone will smuggle it into Moscow... have fun, subhuman shitniggle. It's coming your way.

>>514087486
>permanent
Picrel, retard.
>where does it say it must control it
Kike.
>shittiest mental gymnastics attempt i ever encountered
And you're the shittiest subspecies on this planet, mosquitoes included. I don't care for a kike and their view on how a nation should behave, your existence serves only to ruin nations.

If you say something is as a nation should be, that thing in question is evidently not a nation. That is all.

>>514085519 (OP)
Ukraine is the ancient Khazarian homeland of Ashkenazim Jews.

>>514087996
>your president is a fucking retard surrounded by other retards, you're not supposed to say these things out loud.
Considering your soldiers had no winter uniforms at the beginning of the war because the contract never got filled despite money being taken (stolen), your soldiers are sunk in dedovschina pederasty, highest aids rate outside of africa... literal thieves running government, i'd say USA and Russia are about equally as embarrassing.

>>514088528
I'm not actually reading your posts, I'm explaining to you that rubio should not be saying these things, he's unfit for the job.
You have the biggest clown show as POTUS right now and it honestly fits.
Good luck

>>514088424
Ukraine is ancient homeland of a lot of people leaf. The huns, the greeks, the turks, the rus vikings, the khazarians...

You fucking idiots and your "understanding" of ukraine never fails to amaze me. Spend 5 minutes researching it before making up your mind. Did ya hear jim boob, their symbol is a sigil of moloch! A jpeg told me.

>>514088674
> I'm not actually reading your posts,
Oh ok, then Idi nahuj pedar

>>514088699
Your leader is literally Jewish you fucking glownigger. Stay on /k/

>>514086382
> it has a permanent population
Not if globohomo and zelensky have anything to do it with it, they will run suicide attacks to the ladt Ukranian

>>514088796
My leader is Israeli intelligence you ignorant cunt. Yours is WEF. And yes Ukraine like I said is run by a gang of jews. Jews are loyal to themselves only and no one else.

>>514088371
like even if we ignore the definition under international law for permanent population
your definition is a self own since ukrainian population hasn't significantly changed since at least the 60s

you sound over invested in that topic with that seethe
care to elaborate
>>514088348
and more stretching and bending of words
and then you accuse us of pilpul

>>514088968
>and more stretching and bending of words
>and then you accuse us of pilpul
un-stretching and un-bending you mean? accuse? you guys celebrate it no?

>>514089058
still has permanent population, defined territory, a government and the capacity to enter relations with other countries
yet you're not batman
you're just fat and retarded

>>514089202
> repeats shit that ceremonial at best
> doesn't get pun
> projects his kike physique on others
you're not paid enough to post here avi, you deserve better in life, this is below you

>>514089372
your points were
>well some are leaving
>well they don't control a small portion of it
despite control not being mentioned
>well i dont like their government
who cares
and then this nonsense
>with approval from british/american/israeli intelligence services only

not batman
just fat and retarded

>jews on both sides sending whites to die so they can be replaced by -stans and shitskins
both are being played lmao

>>514085519 (OP)
schrodinger's Ukraine.

Ukraine doesn't exist, they're just Russians in denial, but they all need to die because they're not Russian?

>>514089492
i've met better (((liars))) than you avi
>well some are leaving
25% displacement, thats not some
>well they don't control a small portion of it
small? look at the map you blind rat, then cross reference with precious material mines neither is "small"
>well i dont like their government
Its kikes with their own agenda, whats there to like?
>with approval from british/american/israeli intelligence services only
lol https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj9v9083lw3o
lol https://thecradle.co/articles/us-uk-in-secret-talks-with-ukrainian-officials-to-replace-zelensky-report
lol https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14461597/Washington-BANS-Britain-sharing-US-military-intelligence-Ukraine.html

>not batman
>just fat and retarded
be nice to yourself, no one likes you fuckers right now

This documentary is definitive proof

>>514089838
great the pot calling the kettle black
>25% displacement, thats not some
let me guess
included internal displacement
and even if does it change the fact ukraine has permanent population? no
>small? look at the map you blind rat, then cross reference with precious material mines neither is "small"
yeah it's not much of ukraine
but i thought my hint that control over it isn't necessary was pretty clear
so you brought natural resources in it
god you're both dumb and dishonest
side note from history, under international law kuwait was still considered a state under iraqi occupation
>lol www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj9v9083lw3o
>lol thecradle.co/articles/us-uk-in-secret-talks-with-ukrainian-officials-to-replace-zelensky-report
>lol www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14461597/Washington-BANS-Britain-sharing-US-military-intelligence-Ukraine.html
does that mess supposed to be proof of what you said? are you retarded?

>be nice to yourself, no one likes you fuckers right now
you know why that's funny? пoтoмy чтo я pyccкий
eбaть ты тyпoй.

oh and of course
i bet you get called dark(ie) a lot, but just not a knight
so half way there

The Ukrainian language, and the ethnic group that speaks it is older than the United States.

Are Ukrainians the same people as these guys? They don't look like Ukrainians to me.

>>514090400
>and even if does it change the fact ukraine has permanent population? no
6.7 million of 40mil population left the country...
>permanent population
are you going to redefine word permanent for this pipul session?
>yeah it's not much of ukraine
see pic, i guess losing florida, the carolinas, and rest of coastal US would be small too?
> god you're both dumb and dishonest
yep, as expected, no reasoning given just shit slinging from some kike rat in a tel-aviv basement
NO U
> does that mess supposed to be proof of what you said? are you retarded?
Are you? Fucker is run by intelligence services that are constantly pulling power levers over him. New low avi, even for an inbred moron like you.
>you know why that's funny? пoтoмy чтo я pyccкий
>eбaть ты тyпoй.
(((russian)))? is this how you will present yourself once you have no home in israel?
>i bet you get called dark(ie) a lot, but just not a knight
white with green eyes, no african ancestry, not a kike, been aware of zog and you cunts since I was 15, and thats a long time avi

>>514090534
>They don't look like Ukrainians to me.
Ukrainians are traditionally blonde and blue eyed like the slavs and rus vikings they descend from. There is decent presence of greek and turkish genes in the south as well.

>>514086382
>it has a permanent population
50% of it left
>it has defined territory
haha
>it has a government
hahahhHAAHAH
>it has the capacity to enter into relations with other countries
aggressively demanding handouts counts as being able to enter into relations with other govts?
>>514086728
>>514088365
>>514088699
>>514088759
I see a couple of strong-spirited ukrochads not on the frontlines, but shitposting on /pol/ from another country behind a keyboard
why is this?
go make Slava !

>>514090965
Are you blonde and blue eyed, Artiom?

>>514090987
>I see a couple of strong-spirited ukrochads not on the frontlines, but shitposting on /pol/ from another country behind a keyboard
why is this?
Very perceptive roma, the reason is to make slava I'd literally go on a shooting spree in kjeyiev, sniping zeks that they use to van kids and send them to the meat grinder that exists only to secure mining rights for some british lords and american industrialists.

>>514091107
green eyes, dark hair, greek, german, slavic

>>514085519 (OP)
So you are losing a war to a fake county? Maybe your country is fake you?

>>514085519 (OP)
The moment Russian reds murdered Romanov family in Cold blood, that farce of a country lost all claims on every inch of the Imperial Russian Empire

Show me a definite proof that russia is a real country and putin is a real person.

>>514085519 (OP)
Ukrainians are stewards of the land known as the Ukraine and cannot allow any of this territory to fall under Russia's control because it has all been designated backup Israel. If Jews want to control it, there is something tangible there that we can define as real