Thread 514110356

Having kids isn’t an achievement, it’s biology.
I’m so over the narrative that having children is some kind of life accomplishment. It’s not a talent. It’s not a skill. It’s literally the most basic biological function... not a personal milestone that makes you inherently wise, mature, or superior.
Let’s stop pretending that popping out a kid or two means you’ve “made it” in life. Your value isn’t determined by your ability to reproduce! it’s defined by who you are, what you create, how you grow, and what you contribute to the world.
Let’s start measuring worth by real skills, growth, and meaningful achievements, things you build through effort, not just biology. Being able to have kids doesn’t make you special. What you do with your life does..people acting like starting a family is a talent, a skill, or some ultimate life achievement lmao

>>514110356 (OP)
thank you anon. i’ve been hammering away at this argument for a while now. glad to see others can see the wisdom. shills love to make anon feel bad, and targetting anons economic status, marital status, foid status, or family status, as a weapon. once you realize the system itself is a tool of control and expropriation, these arguments no longer obtain purchase. reproduction is not an indication of genetic fitness, its an indication of being adapted to a sick environment, in other words artifical, not natural selection. this also implies the artificial element can be altered through changing the incentive landscape (legal/economic ruleset)

>>514110356 (OP)
>have kids
>your genes now persist at least 1 more generation
>have no kids
>your genes die with you
Life's a competition, some might call it a struggle. And guess what? Having no kids means you lost it. It's not an achievement, it's the bare minimum. Billions of shitskins can do it. Why can't you?

Remote mind torture high-end technology terrorism

>>514110688
>>514083385
here is a link to a thread from last night
its subtle, but you can see it even in the meme of OP
>supportive climate
the implication is that modernity is this big cuddly support
fest and if you personally cannot
succeed this environment, its a you problem
notice how the OP never even bothered
to explain how the environment is supposdly
supportive when challenged

>>514110356 (OP)
if its so easy and basic then why dont you have some? kek
you know you can be a father and still have skills and get rich right?

>>514110781
it’s not a competition when some enter
the arena with brass knuckles
its expropriation under the guise of competition

>>514110356 (OP)
Having kids? No.
Raising them to have it better than you and be better than you? Yes.

>>514110781
>i can't fathom spending a moment alone without someone else!!!
>i'm so codependant that i make shit up like generational legacies even matter
Sorry that it makes you seethe so hard, faggot. I can bare being alone, I make more money with my (solo) salary than both you and your whore makes combined
I know, i know. It's hard to read, it's hard to understand, but some of us don't NEED other people to prosper in life. Our legacy we leave behind is FAR greater than a little shit turd your whore pops out of her pussy.
I can tell you're poor too just by your post.
>>514110688
based
>>514110835
Nice cope faggot. All of these niggers posting cope likely make 40K a year or less.
I was pulling close to 6 figures before I was 28 and I'm pushing 38 now pulling close to 270K. Let that sink in.
Keep posting cope, breeders. Try spending a month alone in a room with just a computer - if you can't do this, then you should just kill yourself.

>>514111017
if you're so smart and rich why cant you breed? lmao, even 60 iq niggers can do it

>>514111017
oh what legacy can you leave behind? Some shitty code in python or c++ that will be obsolete in 10 years?

>>514110781
because am not a hormonal meat sack, you think like a woman

>>514110356 (OP)
The entire world will be completely transformed into matriarchy(half already is)
Then strong and dumb immigrants take over feminine weak westerners and seize the world. Billions will die in the process.
You cannot stop it, it's too late. Go with a bang at least. Make you last moments funny for the internet.

>>514110356 (OP)
Simps make whores like that redhead rich, if there wasn't waves of lovers giving them money, they wouldn't be millionaires.

>>514110855
Just because the odds are stacked against you, doesn't mean it isn't a competition. The odd are so stacked precisely because competitors made some brass knuckles for their children. You don't have to like it, but quitting is only going to make the future worse for people like you.

>>514111017
>codependence
That has nothing to do with it - you either continue the work your ancestors started or you give up and die - and that's always an option but it's kind of a bitch move imo
enjoy petting your furbabies I guess

also what about the men who become divorce raped
and shells of their former selves?
devoured by a woman who is upheld by all society
lol, why play that game? just to gamble
on your kids not hating you?
just to gamble on society not eating your children?
just to gamble on your woman not completely destroying you psychologically?
what about all of those men? fuck them or its their fault somehow?
lol, how about we acknolwedge that society
is a shit show for modern men
and the ones who see the writing on the wall
and use their brains are smart, not “unfit” or whatever

>>514110356 (OP)
I measure my worth by how many libs I upset

>>514111017
>Try spending a month alone in a room with just a computer
haahaha you're like a baby, try spending decades alone. Im fatherless too, but im not deluded like you. Every succesful man in history made it a priority to secure a son as soon as possible, before continuing his work. Kings, rich merchants, ministers, land owners you name it. It was considered a failure to leave nothing behind. Only in modern times this notion of being without a family but proud in your work rose, cause they wanted men with the most talent NOT to reproduce

OP is wrong on every count.
Only a coping childless retard would think what he does.

>>514111380
those kings and stuff already had power they were not neo feudal serfs
you are telling rent slaves to make more rent slaves

>>514111380
> be 6'5" jobless junkie
> reproduce
> be 5'8" hard-working genius
> die childless
Simple as. Judging by how the world treats us, it does not need smart men, it only needs TALL men. There is literally no point in living, let alone reproducing if you aren't tall. While it is possible to buy a wife from poor country, I am too empathetic to let my son suffer as I did, so let him not exist at all.

>>514111486
wow thank you for sharing that. its brilliant

>>514111751
it's from the sequel to the most important book americans will never read
https://annas-archive.org/md5/a91f863b3d6106673d70c33af8df7699

>>514110356 (OP)
>Your value isn’t determined by your ability to reproduce! it’s defined by who you are, what you create, how you grow, and what you contribute to the world.
Your ways and everything you value will be annihilated from the earth because you were ineffectual at passing on the desire to protect those ways with brutal lethal violence.

Retard.

>>514111568
and they existed cause their kings fathers did what they had to do, which is secure a son. If they didnt, another man would've taken that place. So success means nothing if you cant secure it for the next generation.
>>514111619
thats so simplistic it borders on retardation. You're obsessed with height like the americans. A country which priorized IQ over physical traits will bomb your tall country to the stone age from 10000km away. High tech > everything else, if you dont advance in this you fall behind

We went from massive antinatal shilling to massive pronatal shilling and it's absurd how fast they've flipped it. "Just have kids right fucking now bro!!!" is the new "crotchgoblins"
I agree that having kids and raising them right is important for the future. Maybe glowniggers shouldn't have fucked women up this badly if they wanted to reverse course at some point kek

>>514110356 (OP)
>It’s literally the most basic biological function
Then why don't you do it?
I agree with the rest of your post, but if you can't accomplish your basic biological functions, you are a failure.
Imagine failing at what you were designed to do.

>>514111929
sure, but the ability to instantiate that is relative
and the value generated, also relative
if you just make another slave for the meat grinder
you accomplished exactly, zero

>>514111929
>thats so simplistic it borders on retardation. You're obsessed with height like the americans. A country which priorized IQ over physical traits will bomb your tall country to the stone age from 10000km away. High tech > everything else, if you dont advance in this you fall behind
Try to explain it to women then ... or take away their rights? Average height shoot up by 20 cm / 8 inches in less than 100 years. And no, it is not nutrition, nutrition has gotten worse, same products contain much less nutrients than they once did.

>>514111979
that logic works both ways
being able to question the process has more value
than uncritically just allowing it to happen
(guess ill just impregnate the first hole i find, no matter what)

>>514111899
this, niggers just dont get it. If you're so good and smart and superior why not fucking pass that shit along by having offspring? you want more of that on the world , not less, its like basic common sense

>>514110781
Can I see the rules of winning and losing in life in writing please?
>billions of shitskins can do it
You just countered your own argument and didnt notice it? Is being a retard also winning in life? I mean, they are the happiest people, loved by the difficulties of life.

>>514112140
recklessly fucking anything wont preserve your genetics
idiot it gaurantees lots of retarded offspring

>>514112028
if you are a slave or a peasant, you still reproduce for the small chance somewhere along the line your descendants have it better. Which is probably the reason you exist today so you should be grateful for this mindset

>>514112057
women are wired for caveman days, tech isnt a factor. Iq isnt a factor. Thats on you to correct, they're biological machies they dont think deep on this stuff

>>514110356 (OP)
Keep paying taxes slave

>>514112249
i dont. i wont say subject my progeny
to the hell i’ve endured

>>514112179
if you're retarded yes, you will have retards for sons whether you have 1 or 100. If you're smart your kids will probably be smart, unless you're fucking literal monkeys or something

>>514112249
>Thats on you to correct
How? Walk on stilts?

>>514112155
In 1000 years
shitskins can dominate the planet while whites no longer exist
this does not depend on their intellect or wealth or any stupid trait like height or general peacefulness, it only depends on whether they outbreed their competition
Do you get it yet?

lmao at the replies saying
"Bu-bu-but it was what you were designed to do!"
Keep following your path, goys. Stay on the track they want you to be on, because you're too fucking retarded to know anything else.
This thread has given me enough keks for the entire week, thanks seething breeder niggers!

>>514111486
the more i read this the more i realize how brilliant this is
>is doing them correctly at the source (referring to abolishing welfare and instead making people competent), "making things easy for them" when they ought to be strong and self-reliant themselves?"
whoever wrote this is a damn genius
and his critique of americans coddling each other
rather than raising proper countrymen
is absolutely scathing
and he is right, in the absence of a Square Deal
why bother?

>>514110781
Its not about why could you, but why should you?

>>514112308
by making being smart cool again, you know by building weapons and using them for example. Showing women how useless muscles and height are in this day and age

>>514110356 (OP)
>Let’s start measuring worth by real skills, growth, and meaningful achievements, things you build through effort, not just biology.
Go be a childless high-achiever then. Still seems like a shit life. I'd rather have Christmas dinner with my grandkids when I'm 70 than a wall of medals and ribbons and my name in a textbook. Living for some generic desire to be an "achiever" is not as noble as you like to pretend. You sound like a headcase.

>>514110356 (OP)
Good for you, dysgenic.
The future doesn't want your genes anyway.

>>514112391
Our sons will keep the shitposting tradition alive. You're so selfish you want to keep all the fun for yourself

>>514112530
according to this logick, anyone who shits out a kid is not dysgenic
completely insane

>>514110356 (OP)
He can pay rent all right, and yours too.

>>514112446
>by building weapons and using them for example
Outside of school fighting is illegal, hell even insulting someone is illegal, that is why all adult domination is based on looks and looks only. Tall => you won, short => you lost, simple as and there is nothing you can do about it.

>>514110356 (OP)
Somebody has to breed and raise the next generation of goyim cattle. Most normies will happily step up to the plate and wage their life away for a chance to reproduce. I'm just glad that's not me.

>>514112315
And choke on their own filth? That's winning?
You may argue on those terms that cockroaches are the ultimate winners

>>514110356 (OP)
Having kids is not an achievement but raising them well is

>>514112610
that guy who got his nose cut was tall and handsome, didnt help when he got his face disfigured. But a weapon would have.
Now he'll find it difficult to secure a wife

>>514110356 (OP)
I've just had a kid myself
It's unbearable how little sleep I've been getting
And my wife has had to go back to the hospital multiple times due to infections and and other problems
It is easy having a kid, but raising one correctly, I think that is tough
Yeah you can let you or baby cry all night and ignore them and put them in front of an iPad - but actually raising a child properly is tough
I remember hearing only 1 in 5 children are potty trained when they reach nursery now
Parents are shit now and their kids will be worse

>>514112610
But I’m short and have 2 kids

>>514112734
He will do ok, he got famous after all.
>>514112801
Good job, Mohammed.

>>514111619
>Be rapegod
>Reproduce
Simple as.

>>514111017
Lol look at this sour grapes bitchboy rant he goes off on pretending he chose to be forever single

>>514112548
>>514112507
good stuff, the author is right,
when people operate under the duress of unscrupulous profit seekers
they are not truly free or sovereign
and such an arrangement is not really suited
for the "development of intelligence."
you've shared some very insightful things
that have given me a lot to think about in this subject. thank you

>>514112790
It’s the hardest thing you’ll ever do mate many times you’ll even wonder why you did it to yourself but the struggle and unique experiences of having children will make you a wiser and more well rounded man. You can always tell when someone never had kids, they usually can’t ever fathom self sacrifice and because of this often seem rigid in their life and entitled

>>514112872
Foxes shouldn’t even be eating grapes.

>>514110356 (OP)
Ill take it a step further anon, if you have kids in this era...you are fucking yourself over by a magnitude of 10. As we sit here today we have the privilege to look at history. We can easily identify eras when having children, land & wives was not an issue. Don't get it confused I'm not crying and calling for those era's and lifestyles to come back...All I am doing identifying the situation today. Kids, divorce, housing costs, jobs, jesus being a jew...Its all quite literally insane, Its difficult to follow...and the truth of the matter all of it is little to no value, as you stated.

>>514112825
I’m actually English you daft cunt. Why would you even think otherwise? Pakis and jeets are still a small minority here and if I were not white I’d have at least 4 kids.

>>514112872
you really want to talk about "choice"?
i don't think you are prepared for that conversation

>>514112825
wont be famous anymore now that he doesnt have his looks

>>514110356 (OP)
in a world where no one of value is having children. having children is IN FACT an accomplishment.

>>514112923
i work harder and have more spirit
than the average breeder
just because life forced you to stop being an idiot
when you have your kid in front of you
doesn't mean everyone is automatically retarded until they have a kid show up

>>514112984
>I’ll take it a step further anon, if you have kids in this era...you are fucking yourself over by a magnitude of 10.
So what are you saying? No one try? Some of us have to step up otherwise there’s absolutely no hope

>>514113037
>work harder and have more spirit
hell yeah, nigger. shekelberg's florida villa isnt going to build itself.

>>514113037
Good for you, I did make a point to say “usually” of course I wouldn’t say everyone. How old are you? Are you still young?

>>514112825
>If tall, winner if sort loser
>Gets told by bongchad that short men do fuck
>Immediately responds with ad hom
This isn't an argument against him completely blowing the narrative you were trying to push out of the water

>>514113132
isn't that what's being discussed? rising to the occassion?
having spirit? having courage? who cares what its used for
plenty of breeders meekly following their overweight
wives around grocery stores

>>514113155
pretty sure manlets get laid even more than tall men, cause they gotta compensate and actually build a personality which attracts women more. There are exceptions of course by i have noticed this

>>514110356 (OP)
This! And to guarantee there are people to work we dont need kids, we can just bring more immigrants.
Who's up for some vidya sesh?

>>514113250
>have kids
>still get flooded by aliens

>>514112991
Let me give you a piece of advice I tell all the guys and gals when they are taking "relationship advice"
And that is "never take relationship advice from a divorced or single individual"

>>514113250
you tell em, we dont need kids we got booze and vidya and porn, fuck roasties they asked for it haahaha we're winning look at all the money i made on crypto woooo im rich nigga, party life

>>514113345
let me give you some advice
breeders and married people are biased sources

>>514113082
All I am saying is, if you have kids you gene pool has to be something spectacular....wtf are you in a hurry to pass on? At bestyou will create another 5'8 mf cog in the wheel to through into the meat grinder. You are 18+ years a slave, its all for this 5'8 son or tatted daughter. Its a fucking 50/50 if the women stays with you to raise the child.The truth is the majority of you cannot afford children ( in many ways ).

>>514113345
also, if your harem has less than 10 women
or worse, if you are a haremlet (lol)
you are a closeted homosexual, even if "married"

>>514110781
Dumbass NPC take

>>514110356 (OP)
If having a kid is the easiest thing in the world, why are so many people genetic dead ends who literally fail at this fundamental aspect of all life?
People without kids are failures at life.

>>514112664
If your competitors are all dead, you've won
I simply don't like the idea of such a bleak reality, so I have no choice but to tell other whites not to give up. Ours is a people worth the struggle and it's a travesty to see some of our people snuff their genes out forever because of temporary setbacks.

>>514112918
The author was William Dudley Pelley, aka the father of American fascism. The books were "No More Hunger" and "Something Better: How to Bring in the Christian Commonwealth"
His idea was to restructure the country as a corporation, with whites as the shareholders.
In essence, it would fulfill the promises of communism, fascism, and democracy. Everyone would be integrated into the state itself, which they would literally own, and therefore control. We missed our chance to establish it during the great depression, but considering the way things have been going I think it's prudent to spread these ideas in the present. Most people have a general understanding of the situation, but could never imagine a real solution.
>>514113465
npcs have no problem going #childfree
indeed they think they should, to save the planet or some shit lmao

>>514113495
i could impregnate an overweight women with zero effort

>>514110356 (OP)
When I discovered that the ank of reincarnation was a symbol representing the womb and penis together. I realized that the reincarnation was real, but when when have sex and generate a kid, it's not us who will reincarnate but someone who in any part of the world that has died. Só basically by having sex and giving birth to kids we are basically, chaining ourselves to this reality. Niggers are cursed beings because they will keep pushing out kids, that are not them, because of their no loving behavior, all niggers were given a special trait. Any person who breeds with a nigger will produce a nigger and niggers will keep reincarnating into nuggets bodies only, when Society mix itself to the point of only half niggers are produced in entire Society, white people souls will be free from reincarnation and there will be only niggers in this reality. Because they don't even think about this, they only fornicate like animals, so they will be locked with lesser beings like Jews, who are people who cannot develop higher emotions or reasoning besides the material world. While white people know this instinctively they are not breeding to give their souls a bad environment reality for themselves to live. Most of people cannot even farthon this simple knowledge.

>>514113396
If they are maintaining a healthy relationship with their partner they are doing it right.
See this is why I tell the boys not to listen to people like you, singles all have a crab in the bucket mentality because in order for you to justify what is happening to you being ok it cannot coexist in a space where others are doing well in the area you are not
So you go crabbing in the bucket

It's the same principle by which leftypol raids this board to fight with every demographic who might of voted trump like anti bacterial or white christians.

So too does this principle bring /r9k/ posters such as yourself out of your containment board to shit up /pol/ because you cant be bothered to stay in your echo chamber and so you came here to prosetylze your world view and try dragging fresh anons into your bucket

>>514110356 (OP)
If you aren't having kids you aren't contributing anything.

>>514113734
all i did was show you the failure of your own logick
i dont give a fuck if you breed
just stop shaming me for not wanting to its that simple retard

>>514110356 (OP)
Why are there so many posts? This is the simplest of threads to answer. If you're white, you should have kids. If you're not white, you shouldn't have kids.

>>514113547
Yea you could. We all could. But the baby would die of pre eclampsia

>>514113453
My gene pool is spectacular though. I may not be tall but I’m good looking, provide for my family comfortably, live in the countryside amongst our own and thanks to this place have a good idea what’s going on and what’s at stake. I will raise my children well and so will my wife who knows also what’s going on, if you know what I mean. We only have nope if we create more natives. It’s not guaranteed but we still ought to put up a fight by copying ourselves.

>>514113755
why should i contribute to this world?

>>514113795
You haven't shown anyone jack shit in this thread so far, and Jack left town
You keep crabbing in dat der bucket and I am gonna break out my boil mix

>>514110356 (OP)
>Let’s start measuring worth by real skills, growth, and meaningful achievements
we don't do that under capitalism. your worth is directly represented by your wealth. if you have no money, it's because you're a shit person and no one likes you.

>>514113896
your genes are not your economic status order follower
so tired of this website that claims to love logick
proliferated by filth that refuse
to follow philosophical rules of engagement

>>514113921
So there’s a chance we can improve it, or are you suicidal?

>>514113945
your logick was single people are not reliable sources of relationship advice
i counter your logick by reversing it and saying
people in relationships are biased sources.
do you understand now or do you want to continue being pedantic?

>>514113921
Please go die childless and alone but do it on /r9k/ where you belong

>>514110781
>have kids
>50% chance they turn out gay or trans or failures that dont continue your line
>name your cat niggerman and write weird stories about how outside is scary that you never publish
>achieve immortality through racism
Get a niggerman of your own

>>514114025
sorry but posting about your kids and wife is not political
back to /b/, faggot

>>514113964
I gave you a list and you chose one item to complain about. I think you’re one of those unfortunate souls who cannot be reached

>>514114021
My logic was right over the target Mr incel "relationship expert"
Which is why you went full robot kiissless black pill
You are a field rock screaming at a column of polished marble

>>514110356 (OP)
>nobody wants to hear his voice
>no one wants to see his genitals

>>514114065
i simply pointed out the failure of your logick, order follower
living in the countryside is not proof of superior genetics
anyone with multiple brain cells can see that

>>514114028
>based and careful parents don’t exist

>>514114087
your logick was just confirmation bias, nothing more

>>514114052
>Is now getting hateful
Go, back to the board created for you bottom feeding crabs
>>>/r9k/
Ad this is a "politically incorrect" board som

>>514114130
Yes
Get your own niggerman. A BBD is fine too. (Big Black Dog)

>>514114176
we are done here
no more you's

>>514114118
The reason why I live in the countryside is silly boy. For someone who goes on about “logick” you seem quite bad at following it. You failed to read between the lines.

>>514114150
At least I write correctly in English you ESL jeet

>>514113795
you already shame yourself, you know it deep down thats why you feel the need to justify your decision
>noo the future is fucked there is no point
>nooo women are fucked why bother
>blah blah more peasant slaves
All excuses. Nobody goes around planning families, they fuck their partner and kids pop out, it just happens. It seems to be men who cant get a wife just go and say oh i didnt want it anyway, kids are for plebs blah blah to justify your failure

>>514114208
ok, order follower, ellen degeneres has god tier genetics
according to your insane logick

>>514114232
how, by simply choosing not to breed and supporting my choice with logick?
according to your logick, everyone who posted
anyone in this thread is "justifying their decision"
do you guys even think before you post?

>>514114205
I'm 43 years old, we are done when I say we are, boy.
Is your father around?
Put your daddy on the phone I want to speak to an actual adult not some teenaged basement dweller

>>514113921
I didn't say that you should, I said that you're not. In fact I don't think that you should given your attitudes. Complaints are for stakeholders though.

>>514114240
Mr ebin non-conformist still fails to think critically. I’ll spoon feed you just this once because I genuinely want to help people: what is the reason Ellen fled to the Cotswolds? What reasons do you think I had to move to the countryside?

>>514114372
>attitude
you dont know anything about me, retard
judging by what you posted, you are an insipid cunt

>>514114308
which logic would that be? you can logic your way into suicide too,you know? we're just trying to make you see the other side of the issue

>>514114417
>living in countryside = good genes
>having money = good genes
>therefore, ellen degeneres is a god who should have 30 million children

>>514114433
>you dont know anything about me
Oh shit we got a underage effiminate in thread, that's the go-to defense of every 14 year old

>>514110781
zoomer pol is such a gay place. lots of losers coping hahaha.

a man mid 30s with either wife or children is a turbo loser no matter where no matter when. its a universal rule. im already being generous with mid 30s.

youre some early 20s losers and you havent accepted your loser status yet, understandable, but you will have to accept it one day.

>>514114460
and what do you think i am doing?
i just happen to be outnumbered by you fags

>>514114461
Ah I see you’re not interested in a discussion at all. Last time I’ll feed a troll! Good day

>>514114308
now you wanna go with logic and common sense? look at nature, every single species reproduce, Why would you do otherwise? are you not part of nature? My arguments got nature itself backing me up, and you know you are doing the unnatural thing

>>514114557
that was your logick, not mine, troll
anyone can review the thread

>>514114433
You have 32 posts in this thread, you've said everything you have to say about yourself.

>>514114577
i have a mind, unlike a dog

>>514114605
and you've said
>breed = contribution
anyone with multiple brain cells sees your failure of thought

>>514110356 (OP)
Agreed, though admittedly without children there's no future.

But the solution lack of children isn't to have children anyway without solving the underlying issue... that's how you make India. Imagine a nightmarish world of people chopped in half by juggernaut trains... elephants mc fucking having it and stomping on chuds... and... poo? No. Population numbers is not all what we want. It's a baseline, yes. But we also need a thriving world, with majestic architecture and crazy white/asian technology.

For this, we gotta end the fed. No seriously, it's that simple. Idc if ADL puts me on a list for saying this... it must be done.

>>514114612
so did your ancestors, which built the modern world. They could think, do art, build AND reproduce. Why cant you?

>>514114581
>logick

>>514114508
Why don't you just neck yourself loser?

>>514110356 (OP)
Reminder that in the USA, it was seen once as a genetic defect if you were poor
You've always been like this

>>514114686
because my government is occupied and weaponized against me
and they are in collusion with every major corporation

>>514110356 (OP)
the only woman I will allow myself to reproduce with is an instagram model, nothing less.

>>514114632
No, I said that if you aren't having kids you aren't contributing anything.

>>514114790
so? the men who escaped into your country were also oppressed. They didnt cower like a bitch and stopped reproducing, they fought bravely putting their lives at stake AND managed to leave offspring too on top of it. Just admit you're a pussy

>>514114858
>breed = contribution
troll or bot, which one

>>514114885
>the men who escaped into your country were also oppressed
Funny way of calling them Sore losers. Maybe they shouldn't of let their friends commit the Terrorism?

>>514114885
yeah, they bred me, who realized enough is enough
that was the penultimate achievement
to finally stop the madness
that was the conclusion of our evolution
someone finally smart enough to stop the cycle
we made it

>>514114790
>>514114885
and their opression was way more brutal, people were tortured regularly, there was starvation, cold, fucking indians running around scalping boys, it was fucking madness, But you are the oone oppressed and therefore wont have kids lmao

>>514110356 (OP)
Smart people tend to be smart and you don't know it because you can't see it. Strong people are in plain sight because the condition is pretty much linked to size and girth.

Having kids is a lazy excuse for normies to pose like they're smart when they aren't. It's that simple. If they really wanted to prove their intelligence, they'd unionize and their unions wouldn't elect some disgruntled baby maker to sell them out every time.

First things first. Baby making isn't smart. Idiots make babies before they are financially secure and have a credible place in the community.

Think about your unions. Think about your homosexual party. Think and think some more. You're falling behind like an immature kid who is trying to chase you with their pants around their ankles.....but you're having too much fun trying to make more babies because you might win that lottery.

You have a civil war coming because you won't pull your collective pants up and sort out what people really think of you.

>>514114924
What contributions do you make to help?

>>514114985
except you havent accomplished shit with that, you're just gonna get left behind. Brownoids certainly wont stop reproducing

>>514115011
people are regularly tortured in the modern world
albeit covertly
hell this thread is a form of subtle torture
all my interlocutors are immune to reason

>>514115038
not breeding more slaves
and posting in this thread
someone has to break the cycle
of abuse and trauma
genitaly mutilating men into slaves and calling it manly

>>514115074
my progeny wont have to endure the brown hordes

>>514115077
you have it extremely comfy today compared to the past, you realize that? if men in the past had your living conditions they would be on their 15th kid by now

>>514115164
>if you let them win, i win

>>514115164
>>514115135
>Trying this hard to demoralize his target:whites
I think it's time for you to post hand

>>514110356 (OP)
>Let’s start measuring worth by real skills, growth, and meaningful achievements
Yeah, let's do that and see how you losers stack up.

>>514110356 (OP)
Cool bro. r9k is a different board though.
If you dont wanna have kids, dont have em. But if youre here to bitch about it, well. Go be an incel somewhere else.

>>514115274
>if my progeny are not consumed on the altar of modernity, i win
yes

>>514115216
wrong, every day is a struggle
we live in a degenerating society
based on lies and enslavement
stop pretending its so nice and comfy out here
because it obviously isnt
even if you are a brain dead overton window normie
shit is expensive as fuck

>>514115415
>No timestamp
Shitskin confirmed

>>514115383
what a crybaby you are. If you had to endure 1 day in roman times you would have a breakdown. Toughen up faggot

>>514114686
World population didn't grow on rural poverty. It was a very specific set of conditions.

It was low inflation and industrial revolution combined that spiked population around 1900s... it's actually extremely unnatural that population grows like that. It's not exactly ideal.

Alas. politicians want population growth, whether by immigration or childbirth (they don't care which) so they can rob you blind with excessive debt. If population grows, in 40 years the debt's burden will be lighter as it's spread across larger population. It's a Ponzi.

Initially they wanted immigrants because they do vote free gibs Marxism...but it's dawning on them immigrants are like locusts... they are tourists that will devour the "American dream" and leave when it gets uncomfortable.

Why are "they" back to wanting childbirth instead of immigrants?
Immigrants leave their own home instead of improving it...... why would they improve USA?? They wouldn't... they want to consume the delicious American dream, and move on when there's nothing left, leaving behind a barren land.

>>514115486
lol. the last two years i averaged 70 + hours working per week
i just recently cut down because i got promoted to
management and my income is higher now
you have no idea what you are talking about
when people hear about how brutal my schedule is
and they see how hard i work, they are simply amazed

>>514115566
sitting in comfy office chair with AC is not 'hard work' city cuck

>>514112872
>>514112924
I want to fuck that alpha fox.

>>514114924
I don't think you're a bot. I hope you're a troll and not just stupid.

>>514115624
nope, i did at the bottom
retail, and part time construction shit at a dude's house
being on my feet 16 plus hours a day
you have no idea how strong i am
most people would break under the pressure i turned into my daily routine

>>514115566
and you work so "hard" for what? what are you so proud of? making your masters more money? what are you gonna do with your wealth, squander it exactly like those travelling thots most likely

>>514115683
no i am a bot

>>514115716
to prove a point, that it can be done
and that i operate at a level higher than the average person
so when people like you try to shame me
i have an unshakeable foundation and core
of self respect that can never be touched
by insane arguments like
>lol you didnt shit a kid on the world, loser

>>514115706
>part time construction shit at a dude's house
>ohh i had to drill a couple wholes for a durloc im so blue collar
modern construction with all your tools (and you brgers got a lot of them) its not really such hard work.

>>514111619
I feel for shortbros, I really do. My younger brother could be my twin. Same basic facial features, hair color, eye color, everything. Both of us have the same Texan accent and cornfed country boy builds.

I'm 6'2 and he's 5'8. The constant disrespect he gets from people. And there are a bunch of Mexicans here and not one of them is taller than 5'7. But you see a white guy below 5'10 and it just brings out the contempt in people. I find if anything, short guys are understating how bad they have it.

>>514115811
working 70 hours a week with no reprieve for months
is almost impossible and most people would collapse under the thought

>>514115801
yet you're so insecure you gotta come here and boast about not having kids and your wealth and what not. Reality is you're looking for feedback on your shit choices, well you got it and you dont like it

>>514115870
>if you work less than 100 hr a week lower your tone when talking to me
this is you lmao

>>514115706
You are the strongest goy itt

>>514115801
>unshakeable foundation and core
Nigga you are literally word for word repeating forced inorganic talking points from r/antinatalism trying to brute force anons to agree with you based on anecdotal fallacies

>>514115881
>>514115910
and you and your ilk are doing the same in reverse
posting to prove a point about breeding
so, why so insecure?

>>514115927
i didnt make the rules i just broke the game

>>514111619
>>514115851
Killing manlets should not only be allowed, it should be encouraged.

>>514115870
Most men endure working like that cause at the end of the day they got a wife and kids waiting at home. What do you have? you will burn out quickly.
The deal has always been, you slave away but you get a house and family. You only got the money part, sad. And you dont even feel scammed lmao

>>514110356 (OP)
Failure to reproduce negates the need for any of your much vaunted skills.

>>514110356 (OP)
good, leave the women for me and go castrate yourself you fucking faggot

>>514116059
burn out? i got promoted. reading comprehension?

>>514115998
you didnt break shit you're just a high tier wagie, easily replaceable by the next normiefag in line who wants to 'make it' . There are zillions like you running around

>>514116087
>wooo i got the promotion i beat the game
lmfao, shouldnt you be working now?

>>514116136
i didn't want to "make it"
i defy this system in spirit
i wont reproduce
i don't try to be the highest scogin wagie
im just out here doing what i enjoy
and i get loot regardless
i just enjoy coming here and giving a different spin
because my /pol/ anons are inundated with
>BREED
all day and all night, so an anon has to be different from you assholes

>>514116087
>I'm middle manager at retail saaar
Yeah that and restaurant manager is where careers go to die lol it is so obvious you are a jeet with this whole "I am manager now, I am high caste saar!"

>>514116087
see how long you last with that empty home, i can see suicide your way in the not distant future

>>514116165
i am going to work soon, after i visit the sauna
i didn't make the rules, this system was imposed on me

Fuck tradlarping. Having children is the most banal, tedious, exhausting shit. Especially when you Crit fail and roll a child with extreme autism that can't speak. My nephew is 5 and still not potty trained. All he does is cause chaos and scream. His parents didn't vaxx, didn't circumcise, breastfed and did co-sleeping. He has a stay at home mom and they followed all the trad shit to the tee. And yet he's still a brainless monkey. Fuck that shit. Also, all women show their true nature after having kids. They are all vindictive evil harpies who blame men for everything

>>514116221
plenty of married people killed themselves or their spouses
you are incoherent pretending marriage and kids
is a golden ticket to a good life or a life well lived
no critical thought at all

>>514110356 (OP)
You could use this image as “millionaire” 30 years ago. Fact is most streamers don’t have enough viewers to make a living, and you picked one that you could also jack off to

>>514116205
>i defy this system in spirit
>I got the promotion im so skillful look how hard i work for the system, i dont have kids so more money for me
lmao kys wagecuck

>>514116221
He is lying through his teeth to try to gain the upper hand in thread by fallaciously trying to establish an appeal to authority(see name tag calling himself "expert" in a field he has no experience in)

>>514116205
You just sound like a nigger.

>>514110356 (OP)
>REEEEEEEEEE
>I CAN'T BREED
>BUT ACTUALLY GUYS IM THE SNART ONE
>ITS ACTUALLY EVERYBODY ELSE THATS A LOSER

Nice cope thread faggot.

You will never be a father YWNBAF

>>514116298
i never said it is, this isnt about whats good or bad those are your judgments. Its simply biology. The future world will be populated by those who reproduced. Your genes will disappear. Thats all there it is. Thats the fact. You feel liberated by it, like you "beat the wheel" or something. We're telling you thats retarded thinking. Thats all

>>514116354
because i said "out here"
ok, nobody cares
that's called ad hominen

>>514116334
i exist spiritually outside of this system
you can see here, even on /pol/ a place of "political incorrectness"
i stand as an outsider, even here

>>514110781
>your genes die with you
So?

>>514116022
Makes me sad for short guys. I tell you, I'd rather lose an inch off my dick than an inch off my height.

>>514116354
Brownoids have a breakdown when too many white girls reject their advances and they think it's racist not to date them(it is, but it's a good thing) so they come to "white racist HQ" which is 4chan to try convincing those "bigot white racists" not to have more racist children or date the women that rejected him.

The fact he posted some pudgy dude in a non stamped photo labelled "man" shows his bar for himself ends at the first gay photo of a pudge bellied white man let, a look he hopes to one day achieve with enough skin whitening cream

>>514116515
I noticed you didn't deny being a nigger.

>>514110356 (OP)
Kek, That mucker operator makes 6 figures.

>>514116506
being single /= suicide
being married /= happy life
sorry the world is not black and white

>>514114755
sure mr. zoomer. you are above society! hahaha

My brother is a classic sperg computer nerd who likes to watch YouTube, play games, and aspires to create a game of his own. That's his default personality and what he always reverts to.
But he was always hell-bent on finding a woman to simp for. He used PUA tactics and online dating to find a bitch to marry. And it completely ruined his life. He's married to literally the worst woman I've ever met and he has two kids with her. Instead of living a comfy life he was forced to go into a shit-tier business (landscaping) that he has no actual interest in, just to stay afloat. He had no career or assets, but dove headfirst into marriage to some thot, and had to scramble to build a "business" which is basically outdoor janitorial services, cutting lawns and doing menial jobs like mulching gardens. Tradfags would have you believe this is based, but it's actually nigger-tier. He barely survives job-to-job, and hates every minute of it. He has two kids, one of whom is EXTREMELY autistic to the point that he's 5 and can't talk, only screams and breaks shit. His wife doesn't love him, and they have the same argument almost every day. He is constantly telling her to just leave but she won't. So he's stuck with an evil bitch wife that blames him for all her problems, and if he divorces her he'll be raped in court because they have 2 kids. It's spectacular how he ruined his life for mid pussy from a fucked up narcissistic Newfie bitch

>>514116515
you're not an outsider there are millions of antinatalists running around, its the current thing. Very common amongst millenials. It seems you havent thought this through, you're not being the smart one, this is a very modern phenomenna. Almost every leftist out there sides with you, just go on plebbit lmao

>>514110356 (OP)
the only meaningful achievement you can have is passing on your genes.
everything else is mario flag poles.

>>514116824
read the thread
the majority are simping for women, children, and marriage
i am an outlier here

>>514116611
Having and raising children are two different things retard. Unless you're wealthy you're raising more cattle for jews.

>>514116676
the only men who endured the lonely life were either very spiritually inclined (and they still suffered for it) or they had a life purpose and changed the world somehow like Tesla. You are neither of those things, you are a corporate office drone, another clog in the machine

>>514110356 (OP)
Most people nowadays who have kids make midwits or degenerates.

>>514110356 (OP)
That’s fine, attitudes like yours will die out since you aren’t breeding. Thanks.

>>514116852
thats cause you're in a far right website you mong lmao. the fuck do you expect? we are pro family here, specifically pro white family

>>514113896
>thanks to this place have a good idea what’s going on
it goodnight from me..and it's goodnight from him

>>514116914
how do you know im not a tesla in the making shit head?
>because you didnt have kids therefore you bad
im just lol'ing at your absolute failure to be consistent

>>514116570
nothing, please dont reproduce we dont need more chileans

>>514113515
Better become a literal cockroach since they will still be around when the nuclear weapons are launched.

>>514116988
cause a "tesla in the making" would be doing experiments not boasting about a promotion or not having kids. What a fucking retard you are holy shit kek

>>514117182
how do you know?

>>514116988
>I'm gonna be the next Tesla
kek

>>514111017
You're such a faggot lol

>>514117125

No. I don't want more chileans neither.

There's no point on wanted more people in your country. The less the best. I hope Argentina stop reproducing too

>>514117220
>i impregnated a woman with 31 BMI
lel

>>514117214
Not having kids and being antinatalist are not the same.no one cares you dont have kids.

>>514116852
>i am an outlier here
Are you a nigger?

>>514115851
Glad to see that someone gets it. The funniest part is that there is a lot of random recombination involved, some NBA nigs have short parents and siblings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Jordan_(basketball)

>>514110356 (OP)
maybe the guy on the bottom shouldn't give all his money to the whore

>>514110356 (OP)
I have a kid but I agree with you. I consider a well raised child to be an achievement, not a child itself. It's clear to me that the autists in this thread talking about "passing on your genes" as if having a kid is some kind of objective scientific experience, are childless. You should not have a kid if your main goal is just "passing on your genes" you should have a kid if you want to be a good father, that's it.

>>514117214
you would know if you actually did something useful. Whatever your job is, im sure you are quite replaceable

>>514117261
>my entire ancestral line ends with me and my delusions of grandeur.
you go girlboss.

>>514117410
They've boxed themselves out. No doubt kikes have made modern life a living hell. But to just throw the towel in and say its hard or not worth it is exactly what kikes want from whites

>>514117630
they really think they are that special lmao
a special boy

>>514110781
Are you a slave to biology? Weak

>>514117410
my father didnt raise us properly he was too busy working. Im still glad he did it so i can shitpost with you guys and experience what life has to offer.
Not every man has to be from some elite wealthy families. But every man is needed when things get rough.

>>514117410
cant be a good father without passing on your genes

>>514117675
At this point just breed a rich kikess if you can. There are more than enough Chads for every kike female, repeat it a couple of times and there will be no more kikes.

>>514112446
Did you miss the fact we are enslaved by jews who are reducing humanity to medieval zealotry? It's a rhetorical question.

>>514110356 (OP)
Having kids is normally good, but modern society is too unstable and unpredictable. Plus, the world is overpopulated anyway.

>>514117254
why? country is almost empty. Stop being a faggot

>>514116865
Why did that post trigger you so acutely Rajesh?

>>514118009
what about when there was actual medieval zealotry? did men just roll and die? kek stop being a pussy

>>514118036
>Country is almost empty
>Goes out
>People

>>514113155
>>514113230
>short guys fuck more
>t. jewish whores/coping manlets

>>514118231
almost half the country lives in one big city, if you get away from that city guess what? less people.
Now go do a experiment. divide population by area surface of countries in europe, then do it with argentina and come back to me

>>514116774
He fell for romance propaganda.

>>514118243
I have two sons full grown
Take your boosters shitskin

>>514118243
says the guy who refuses to breed unless he gets the necessary shekels (newflash it will never be enough for you). Kike slave

>>514118081
It means they make what you're talking about illegal retard. You and the other nigger >>514118046 have no arguments. You're trying to shame men into fucking up their lives by being hooked up to a parasitic organisms in a society designed to empower the parasite.

>>514110356 (OP)
Yes, having children is nothing special; instead the issue is the following:
>having no children makes your entire existence irrelevant long-term, and you failed in the most basic job you were born to do
So no children = bad. Having children = literally nothing lol you're basically a normie (in the good way for once).
It's simply abnormal to never have children.

>>514116774
>my brother has a shitty life and family, therefore you shouldnt reproduce
ok retard lmao

>>514114130
This is extremely correct no matter how much you want to pretend exceptions are the rule.
I have never once met someone with kids that wasn't an utter fucking retard setting them up for a mental breakdown when they realize what life is really like as an adult.

Oversheltering and coddling your kids to the point they end up retarded or evil is the number 1 way to raise kids nowadays. It's sickening and I won't be a part of it.

>>514118598
no im trying to make whites have babies. You want to prevent this. You should show your real flag cause the nazis would shoot you on the spot for what you're promoting

>>514118448
>random schizo rambling plus random pic
bot
>>514118490
>you don't need wealth to have power over your woman and environment so you can shield your children from neomarxist propaganda
Words are cheap, yours so cheap you built a utopia that doesn't exist with them

>>514118395
not enough empty

>>514118598
Welcome back nigger.

>>514118687
If you cared you'd try make whites organized dumb nigger. We don't need men chained to a metal ball, we need free and independent men to go to war.

>>514110356 (OP)
I can tell you for a fact people with kids don’t think about you at all.

>>514118687
Nazis first organized and created a society to have families in first you dumbfuck jewish whore. A tiny inconvenient fact you ignore

>>514116774
Okay have you asked him how he feels about his situation? Because your opinion is irrelevant. Sounds like he's doing okay for himself.
>landscaping
Basically the most normal thing settled humans can do, faggot (besides literally plowing a field).

>>514118851
>doing shitty low paid job for a dysfunctional marriage is le good goy
You sound so desperate to make others chained. Try some nuance.

>>514118633
It's sad but just so you know I have seen that exact story posted by a leaf before
It's pasta propaganda at this point because he keeps posting it and trying to make a part to whole fallacy as his argument
Something I notice about shills is everything they post is anecdotal claims, they aren't interested in an actual discussion they just want to demoralize or divide.
What we should be doing is finding articles that compare overall levels of depression happiness between individuals with a partner/family vs those that go their entire lives without, and make them argue against that.

>>514118734
im sorry you feel so threatened by us, we dont have bad intentions really. You guys on the other hand..
>>514118794
we need numbers retard. Hitler would agree the numbers are too low now compared to the global brown hordes. How can you not see this?
>noo you must be rich to have white babies
>year 2200AD only 100 whites left, their wealth is useless cause everything is turned to shit

>>514110356 (OP)
Kike thread.
My little paramilitary unit of grandsons will be shitting on your graves.

>>514118839
they also lived in a 100% white country even before the 3rd reich, which isnt our case. A tiny inconvenient fact you ignore

The mere act of being alive moment to moment is accomplishment thus making creating a second life is an achievement too. The mere state of sentience itself is a constant achievement, something to celebrate.

>>514119105
No they didnt there were jews everywhere

>>514118974
>hey fellow jewish whore sitting next to me
>>514119020
You get numbers by organizing men who are already here, not play russian roulette to still have a functional family with adult sons in 20 years
>number are too low now when we still make up more than half the population of our countries
>but we will have numbers in 20 years when there's twice as many shitskins plus the handful of white kids who didn't grow up to be dumb fucks
Give it up jewish whore, you have no argument.

>>514118839
Nihilists and atheists weren't allowed to join the SS
Quit pretending just because you put on a larp flag to hide your shit skin flag that we believe for an instant you are a white nationalist sukdeep.

>>514118966
Would you kindly answer the question I asked before you had to clear your cache and cycle your phone data?

>>514119183
they were like 1% or less, which is less jews than what we have today in our countries

>>514110356 (OP)
lifestyle choices
The one at the bottom could have chosen HRT and become a cute tranny millionaire.

>>514117136
no one will ever launch nuclear weapons anon

>>514119265
im sure NOT having kids is gonna fix the issue right? what a retard lmao

>>514119105
This literally supports my line of reasoning dumb fuck. You're not gonna shit out millions of based sons from unorganzied, mostly mindless npc cattle.

>>514119265
Post hand shitskin
You won't because you are a nigger

>>514119285
If even 6 million jews were put into camps that means they were 10%

>>514119350
are you a jew? why is your average white considered subhuman by you? is every whit subhuman unless they sold out for shekels like you? does that make them smarter?

>>514119271
>no argument
>you're nihilist if you want to organize
>>514119281
>I'm not samefagging, you are
Meds
>>514119339
>only 10% of men are aware
>let's have them play russian roulette so maybe half of then will produce based, undamaged offspring instead of converting the remaining 90% of men while numbers of shutskins double
70 IQ logic

>>514119549
I noticed you still haven't denied being a nigger.

>>514119442
>>514119488
>>514119526
>no argument
I accept your concession jewish whores

>>514119624
I noticed you're a jewish whore too

>>514119350
you realize the men who fought bravely at the front were what you would consider "mindless npc cattle?" and the nazi leadership used them for their purposes? do you think they'd have the numbers to stand their ground if they thought like you?

>>514119628
"recent cross-cultural study, published in Evolutionary Psychological Science, dives deep into the emotional wellbeing of singles and couples across 12 countries.
The research reveals that intimate relationships, especially good ones, are strongly tied to higher life satisfaction and emotional wellbeing. "

End of discussion :)
https://danieldashnawcouplestherapy.com/blog/are-people-in-relationships-happier-than-singles

>>514119549
>>514119628
show your flag yid, at this point your intentions are quite clear.
>hurrr only the top of the top should reproduce, but i cant really define what being top means, but it has to do with how many shekels you made for shekelberg your boss
fucking end your life lmao

>>514119549
here's a fact for you: its easier to convert a new generation, than to try to convert the aging population. A fact the nazis understood quite well (Hitler Youth). You really havent thought this through, smartboy

>>514110356 (OP)
society is marked for destruction they want their ai overlord prison to come. anyone with atleast 25% real brain tissue and not just shit should know this by now.

what you see now is just accelleration to the bitter end.

>>514110356 (OP)
dude, op is a fucking woman and she folds herlsef into an origamie trying to cope with being a childless feminazi that hates men, babies, plants, animal, EVEN CLOUDS...
the only thing these fucking losers love is hell. the devil, death, destruction, murder, lies...

these women are in a hard place right now but fuck them theyre all idiots and cant listen to mansplaining.

>>514119661
It's kind of strange that you started shitting up at the thread at the same volume as the other nigger right after he left for whatever reason wouldn't you agree?

it's the most basic biological function yet you can't do it OP
curious

>>514120928
I noticed that as well
They both come off as larpfags too young to even be here
I've noticed an uptick in memeflags posting leftytardation this morning, not just in this thread
Saw an antifa memeflaggit in another thread straight up tell an anon who claims he doesn't do drugs that "right wing Nazis are using you man"

>>514119661
you found some of these khazar milkers swastikafag?!

>>514111204
Is that what you guys think when you die for a twerking Jew as the internet watched?

im at work faggot
i canbe in the thread 24/7

>>514121200
Sell them cigarettes and beer rankesh

>>514113453
lol what a pussy

>>514120956
half of the people are childless, were finished. have to import more rapitsts now to make the wahmen happy.

Wow so many people seething on this thread
It must be hard to deal with.
>>514112560
Yes I am greedy. That's probably why I'm worth more than a majority of normies who have families and dual incomes despite my income being from one person (me)

>>514121711
>I'm single alone and childless but at least I have my career
Kek you sound just like a reddit feminist

Meh, society can deal with the consequences of their greed.
Me or my non born children, will not.
I'll survive on the scrap I can gather and enjoy my own pennies before I die. Don't need anyone to inherit this nightmare so I'm being anything but selfish when I can barely survive myself right now and I can only imagine what the future will hold.

>>514110781
the game is rigged against you
you are a tard for playing the wagie game
find a natsoc girl and become a high class sophisticated homeschooling teacher
use the neetbucks to start a family owned business
stop wageslaving