Thread 514132773

They got all of this land without starting a war. How was this not enough?

>>514132773 (OP)
Kills the brownshirts instead.

>>514132773 (OP)
all this land is barely anyhting comapred to other empires, whats your point

>you won't do shit.
Adolf Hitler, 1939

>>514132773 (OP)
Meth turns you megalomaniacal.

>>514133178
Mexico is ltierally bigger than Germany was at that point, you stupid nigger

>>514132773 (OP)
They entered into the war under the rather childish delusion they were going to bomb everyone else and nobody was going to bomb them

>>514132773 (OP)
Hitler wanted an empire to rival Great Britain. He conceived of a world in which there was the British commonwealth, the americas and the German empire. In order for that to be true, Russia had to be subdued and managed by Nazi Germany.

>>514132773 (OP)
The land they really wanted was South East of there.
Their economic system need fresh conquests to get hard currency. It was horribly mismanaged even by socialist standards. Goring was an Idiot. Had a chance to build Coal to Oil conversion plants but screwed up the math.

>>514133334
it would be helpful if british would have ever opened a history book and they would have known all of these are ancient german lands

>>514132773 (OP)
Compared to Texas, would you say that’s a lot of territory or not much at all?

>>514132773 (OP)
Nazis were just "what timmy gonna do, 1940s edition".

>>514133266
>at that point
And now it's half of that. Moral of the story: don't do meth, kids.

>>514133534
>all of these are ancient german lands
"Ancient German land" means between the Rhine and the Elbe.

>>514133593
its not, Anglos just have a natural obsession with Germans
I guess because we are too pure

>>514133397
No he didn't. He did want some former colonies but his real goal was Ukraine and Caucasus Regions of Russia. A union of nations that included Poland, Hungry, Ukraine, and Caucasus would be a super power. Plenty of food and resources.
Only a few german heavy regions of France, Belgium, and Netherlands were on the menu.

>>514133411
>invades the same number of countries as Germany in the pre-WW2 period
>doesn't get war declared on it by the West
>invades Poland for territorial gains
>doesn't get war declared on it by the West
>invades half of Europe for territorial gains
>doesn't get war declared on it by the West
>calls the Nazi invaders and pretends the West is its enemy

>>514132773 (OP)
a war start cuz of this 2 lands, mainly that on top

>>514133266
>was
Lmao

>>514133725
and your "ancient land" is in northern Germany, anglo
creating your shithole was the worst idea we ever did

>>514133725
I think you mean between the Meuse and the Memel

>>514133266
skill issue

>>514133725
our response, churchill xisters?

>>514132773 (OP)
The Brits and French had no problem with Czechoslovakia being invaded, but invading Poland was going too far?

Poles deserve it.
Kinda like how anglos deserve their children raped and turned into kebab, since they love communism as they fought for it during WW2. Same goes for mutts lmao

>>514133760
>Only a few german heavy regions of France, Belgium, and Netherlands were on the menu.
IIRC he proposed to surrender the entire West back to a pre-war state in exchange for peace with Britain, so even that was not particularly important to him.

>>514133947
this map is pure fanfiction

>>514132773 (OP)

Because they needed to reconnect Prussia to the rest of Germany. And as a result this would have landlocked Poland. War was effectively inevitable. It was basically built into the way they drew the borders after WW1.

>>514133075
>nothing ever happens
Polish guy, August 31, 1939

>>514134160
What kind of banker goblin are you? New York or LA?

>>514133786
Hitler had been warned invading Poland would mean war and did it anyway. WW II is his fault.

>>514133397
That anglophilia was a big mistake. Should've wiped those faggots out at Dunkirk.

>>514134141
alsceloriane was definately on the menu. But most of lowlands and france would have been left intact.

>>514134904
Both Germany and SU deserved each other, and by that I mean the same firing range.

>>514134339
Do you really think almost all of Poland was populated by Germanic tribes?

>>514134904
>you've been warned that if you don't take the jab, you can't have a job, so your family starving to death is your fault
Your Nordic and subsequent jewish rulers have not managed to make you a particularly clever people, have they?

>>514133876
"You" and even your ancestors didn't do shit.
Old Anglos were their own peoples that all migrated here eons ago. Even larping as antique people they were more related to the present day Dutch than to "Germans". Modern day Englishmen are almost a third old Briton Celtic, a third Gallo-French and a third old Anglos with slightly different ratios depending on method of study.
This island was a total shithole nonentity until well into the second millenium anyway, and its history comes from its internal development. If Frenchmen said that they created England it would be simplistic but at least make some sort of sense (any semblance of civilization in Germany is also from there btw). Goymans trying to claim that is total delusion.

>>514135564
>stop defending Europe against me!
Nigger

>>514133804
Hitler already had Slovakia.
I think what he should've done probably was offer to swap Slovakia and possibly offer Lithuania to Poland in exchange for danzing and perhaps include that in some kind of deal where Germany would give security gaurentees to Poland should the Soviets ever do anything shifty (I'm aware Germany didn't have control over Lithuania but I'm sure Poland could've taken it themselves quite easily without anyone intervening especially with germanys blessing).

>>514135527
Likely, yes.
>>514135571
The Franks and Normans were Germanic people too.
>>514135686
>no argument
You are a perfect serfgolem. You crave the limitations placed upon you by your betters. You want to be told "Don't do this!" and "Don't do that!". You know that you were told not to stand up straight, so it is only right that you are flogged for doing it. You were warned, so you should have known.
>jewish commie slaves invaded Europe to defend it from European rule
Oh gee thanks shlomo!

>>514133786

>invades Poland for territorial gains

lol I think it’s pretty obvious why the world saw the what the Nazis and Soviets did in “Poland” to be very, very different

>>514135209
>>514133760
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskommissariat_of_Belgium_and_Northern_France
We don't even have to do what if, nazis just claimed they annexed all of Belgium and the Netherlands and parts of northern France.

>>514136063
Also the main reason why I think it would've worked out if Lithuania could be included somehow is because they wouldn't be landlocked after all then plus due to the historical ties with the polish-Lithuanian commonwealth and all.

>>514136215
ok, nigger

>>514136223
>we must exhaust our global empire's ressources completely to bomb German population centres to rubble so as to defend the national sovereignty of the Polish state
>but if a bunch of commie jews wants it, who are we to argue
brah

>>514132773 (OP)
they did.

>>514133075
aren't your kids getting stabbed in their schools right now?
at least they're not speaking german.

>>514136223
Poland's sovereignty wasn't the point. England wanted o stop the Reich which was on a quest to conquer Europe. And it was a success.

>>514136796
Yes at least kids were not being stabbed in 1942 like what happened under German occupation everywhere.

>>514136215
>Likely, yes.
Germanic presence in ancient Poland was always exaggerated by German anthropologists including to this very day. There weren't any Germanics in the Bronze Age in Poland, only Proto-Slavs that came from Corded Ware and some Celts. Germanics only came in the Iron Age like the Wielbark Goths and they were not all over the place, and then they left. The map you posted is coping probably from a German ultra nationalist.

>>514137192
>let me tell you about your history
>map says 50 BC to 300 AD
>let's talk about the Bronze Age
hobbyist retard
>probably from a German ultra nationalist
I'll trust him on my people's history over some random tunneldweller from the upper east side.

Hitler says in Mein Kampf that the long-term sovereignty of the german people can only be assured through global supremacy. A key aspect of that is expanding the Lebensraum as wide as possible. Because there is no unclaimed arable land on this planet it neccessarily has to be taken by force from someone else. He explicitly dismisses the idea of simply working with the borders you already have, because while you're busy minmaxing some bullshit tiny territory in central europe, the anglos, frenchies, commies and burgers (all under kike rule, of course) are making mad bank simply colonizing shit and splitting up the rest of the planet between them.

Beyond that, if you're going to preach the whole "might makes right" and warrior-ethics thing, you better actually do some fucking war, otherwise you're just a hypocrite. Imagine a 4th Generation Nazi state which talks a bunch of shit about the eternal struggle of the aryan against the eternal jew, but all you really do is exist and no one cares.

your country is irrelevant

>>514136856
but your pic shows that it was NOT about "conquering europe" since the soviets did that and nobody wanted to stop them.
since its not about "stopping somebody from conquering europe"

>>514132773 (OP)
Because all conservatives are retarded, OP.

All they had to do was mind their business, and this glorious empire would still exist today.

>>514133266
Everything's bigger in Texas.

>>514138578
Britain wanted to stop USSR. Even asked US to help them in an invasion of the Soviets. But US refused.

>>514138756
no they did not.
If they wanted to stop they would have declared war in 1939, stopped all resource shipments and doomed the soviets to failure

>>514132773 (OP)
it was enough. Uncle Adi just wanted to build an extraterritorial motorway over the corridor and settle all the problems with Poland, in favour of Poland btw. Ofc Poland wanted war, being pushed by the jews in england in order to grab territory from Germany and refused even to talk to Adi. Very disrespectful. Result: war.

>>514137659
>minmaxing tiny territory
Is how wealthy places usually happen, Switzerland, Benelux, Singapore, as well as metropolises like London, Paris, Hong Kong, etc. Meanwhile giant landmasses under one political regime and relying on resource extraction over giant areas like Russia or Brazil have always remained shithole.
Nazi politico-economic doctrine based on owning vast agricultural lands is genuinely retarded (as I mean retarded as stupid but also as late, this sort of thinking was already discredited in the second half of the 18th century).
Germany after the war was contained in narrower borders than before (especially considered the ethnic cleansing of German enclaves in the east) yet became much richer than before and certainly much richer than what hitler could have done sending endless agricultural and coal mining colonies over the eastern half of Europe.
>making mad bank simply colonizing shit and splitting up the rest of the planet between them
Most colonies were a money sink done for White man's burden and other ideological nonsense. All of our non-dominion (Canada, Australia, SA) oversea land was a net money sink. The entire French colonial empire was aside from one region in Vietnam. The Dutch empire in the east Indies was somehow worse. We were suddenly able to afford welfare state bullshit AFTER starting decolonisation because the budget for it got shifted.

>>514138840
>no they did not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable

No oil or gas, not enough food

>>514133619
>Nazis were just "what timmy gonna do, 1940s edition
you need to be 18+ to post here. Even if you are older you are functionally a child so you can't post here anyway.

>>514138969
>1945
thanks for proving my point
they are sending only complete retards here now

Hitler tought that the industrialization of the colonial world was a "jewish plot" (since in his mind, only aryans can produce industry).

He tought people capable of making their own industrial commodities would no longer need the industrialized countries thus they would no longer export food to Grrmany & Europe and this would lead to social unrest and chaos, all of which would unfold into marxist revolutions, the aryans would be executed and the "jewish bolsheviks" would control the rest of humanity as civilization declines.

His crusade was precisely to turn back the wheel of time in Russia and bomb their industrialized cities.

He was completely lunatic but was able to convince millons of germans into his madness

>>514132773 (OP)
I hate to niggle but you've added Danzig on the map. They didn't have Danzig.

>>514139064
when they are sending them, they are not sending their best. some of them tho, I assume, are good people.

>>514139064
>Britain defeats Germany
>Wants to fight USSR

How does this not make sense? Were they supposed to be fighting both at the same time?

>>514133804
>>514136063
Unlikely as Danzigers voted join Germany.

>>514133411
This isn’t accurate

>>514139290
You bring drugs, you are rapists. you have to go back.

>>514132773 (OP)
Because jewishcommunism was coming for them and forced their hand in a grand act of self defense.

>>514138880
Nothing of this was in favour of Poland. Cutting Poland out of the small amount of sea connection it had - yeah so favourable.
Hitler wanted a war because he had to pay off global bankers who gave him money to keep his economy afloat, and sacrifice people for his jewish masters so Israel could be established. Also he had debt in USSR for training his officers and pilots which he paid by making Ribentrop-Molotov pact. HE LITERALLY ALIED HIMSELF WITH JEWS AND COMMUNISTS.
But yeah it is Poland that was at fault.
You are exactly as retarded as russian supporters who think Russia is trad christian country, when they have the most muslims in Europe and more strict antiracist and antimuslim hate speech laws than Europe.

>>514134160
>fanfiction
That israel

>>514132952
Yeah because they were wignat retards there leader was also literally a pedophile

>>514139184
blah blah blah. Adi wanted an extraterritorial motorway and a partition of the independent state of Danzig in which Poland would have grabbed more than its fair share. the package included the resettlement of germans living in Poland into Germany. In other words all problems solved and zero crisis whatsoever possible in the future. But Poland slammed the door in the face of Adi and started to greenlight the thugs who were murdering ethnic germans in the corridor. Poland, instigated by (((britain))), is 100% responsible for the war.

>>514133619
implying Italy could do anything of matter to support an ally. my gramps said Italians are like cats, always hidden, always in the background and rarely seen. They have heels under the front of their shoes so they can run backwards faster.

>>514132773 (OP)
because the goal was always war.
Germanys "secret rearmament" started before long Hitler, like with Krupp who continued making weapons after the armistice, they never stopped.
Same Krupp that financed and supported Hitler.
are you connecting the dots yet?
This was all a result of Germany having been only defeated politically during ww1. with their military and industry remaining intact. though they did try to dismantle the much of the military after the war, it only could disperse them into para-military elements. Those elements were still present in german society.

>>514139558
>Nothing of this was in favour of Poland. Cutting Poland out of the small amount of sea connection it had
All of it was in favour of Poland retard. Poland would not have lost a square km.bThe motorway would have been built underground or on a viaduct so there was full north south passage for Poland. Plus Poland was granted the use of the port of Danzig for free. Really conditions for going to war, right ? Give me a break.

>>514133266
But it's not the point though. The point is why fuck about when you don't have too.

>>514132773 (OP)
Still dependent on imported food and fuel. This was a critical weakness in WWI.

>>514140259
your granpa is a retard but Uncle Adi was not. 'it*ly' diverted the equivalent of an army in may 1940 just for the fact it existed. Without it: no smashing of France in a month. It also provided the chance of winning the war in case of conquest of Suez and grab of the oil of the Middle East. Adi was a genius and did everything right.

>>514132773 (OP)
Westoids let Hitler/Germany integrate Austria with Germany and rebuild army against all the post-WWI agreements and treaties. If brits/westoids actually cared about keeping the German post - WWI restriction they would've stopped Hitler way sooner. Meanwhile they were all pandering to Hitler letting him do whatever the fuck he wanted. I think the final ego boost for Hitler was when westoids allowed him to annex whole of Czechia for free even if westoids recognized Czech gov and had pacts with them, they ditched Czechia and let Germany take it over in the same manner as if they were discussing swapping colonial territories in Africa. So Hitler had all the reasons and proofs westoids wouldn't do shit if he carved Poland with soviets too, but unlike Czechia Poland actually had a geographical importance and brits couldn't let it happen. I'm aware brits/westoids didn't give a fuck about Poland, it's just that Germany carving us up and having good relations and border with USSR was making Germany too powerful compared to them while czechia was just some small landlocked country.

>>514132773 (OP)
Moot question, because the Nazi puppets would never have gotten any of that clay so easily if they hadn't gone to war afterwards

>>514139290
How can this be true when I have spent thousands of hours of my life studying natsoc twitter memes and they all say Churchill hated whites and especially Germans and that he wanted Europe to fall to communism?

>>514140441
Danzig was an international city

>>514132773 (OP)
>czech lands
Its called Bohemia fucking retard map maker.

>>514132773 (OP)
Hitler explains everything in his book anon.

>Czech Lands
Fake country created in Washington. Just like Poland and Israel