Thread 514139783

White collar wagies will be replaced by AI and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>514139783 (OP)
We can boycott the companies who do this.

>>514139783 (OP)
Please stop coming to the anime website to trick autistic dweebs into sweaty blue collar jobs

>Disconnected Jim's electricity for non-payment
kek. Jim thinks electricity is a human right btw

They won’t because what blue collar appreciators never understand is that civilization is to a huge degree a social game. We have centuries of technological innovation behind us. How many inventions dispropriately hurt the bourgeoisie? Zero. That will never change. The peasantry toils and pays the price for the wars. It’s always been that way, and always will be that way.

>>514139963
>social game
So it's a faggot society and anyone who don't have your faggot software will take advantage of it.

>>514139783 (OP)
The jews on here always shit on trades and the more manly jobs in favor of his HR dept and some faggy, effeminate office cubicle setting. No women where I work, hence no childishness and girly drama. If there was we would get nothing done.
Just remember, if it's in a suit, it's a snake so blow the pretty boy beta a kiss like the manicured, lazy little bitch he is.

>>514139783 (OP)
No one gets paid 100K in the trades besides the boomer project manager / foreman who sits in the truck all day while you sweat your ass off with Juan and Carlos.

>>514139783 (OP)
College students don't actually think everyone else who didn't get a degree are stupid, just so you know

>>514140197
If you’re one of its losers, yeah you might say that.

>>514139963
>How many inventions dispropriately hurt the bourgeoisie
Crossbows, guns, the printing press, 3d printers

>>514139963
social game 2025:
>kowtowing to jews, negresses, misandrist roastoids, niggers, spics, gypsies, jeets, white trannies, black trannies, in that order
>acting perpetually guilty for the original sin of being a white male

white collar cuckery is slavery

>>514141166
>No one gets paid 100K in the trades
entry level trade job: $30/hr -
hours to reach 100k: 56 hrs

white collar cucks don't know what overtime is.

>>514139783 (OP)
>White collar wagies will be replaced by AI and there's nothing you can do about it.
If that happens (it won't, any time soon) who is going to pay wagies for their labor? Yes, there would be a cascade effect that would hurt blue collar too.

>>514144257
>who is going to pay wagies for their labor
wagies are the last people on the chopping block, retard.

You think the elites are going to get rid of them so useless eaters (NEETs), and their slightly less useless white collar brethren can push pencils all day?

>>514139783 (OP)
re-make this meme when both jim & joe are 50 year old. joe has a bad back and needs 8 norcos a day to shuffle around the grocery store

>>514144442
>wagies are the last people on the chopping block, retard.
You don't understand, nigger. If there are fewer white collar earners with disposable income then there few of them able and will to play blue collar workers.
>You think the elites are going to get rid of them so useless eaters (NEETs), and their slightly less useless white collar brethren can push pencils all day?
You have to be a bot that's meant to argue with anything. There's no way a person could sincerely make an argument this dumb.

>>514144654
Joe is fit and healthy while Jim died because he took the vaxx

>>514144715
>society won't need to be maintained if (us useless people) aren't around
>this is... BAD

So let me get this straight. I get a world free of useless retards, us tradies can build a utopia, but I don't get your funny money?

>>514144442
Are NEETs even a thing anymore? I thought their COVID bux ran out three years ago and Trump 2.0 is cutting as much welfare bennies as possible. Shitty NEETs were bragging about their NEET bux five years ago, but I guess living in endless proverty sux.

>>514144715
There are far more blue collar workers than white collar ones. A large majority of the "white" collar workers make shit money.

>>514139783 (OP)
Stupid meme, people with philosophy degrees easily get jobs

>>514142524
All disappointedly benefited the elites. What are you fucking retarded?

>>514143556
This is just your headcanon

>>514146396
We know of the many prominent modern greek philosophers

Aristotleoglu and Platosman

>>514146694
Sam Hyde

>>514139860
Boycotts are a demonstration of your purchasing power, which you will have none of, because you won't have a job.

>>514146645
The only industries not owned 100% by the Jews is unironically the trades.

>>514146396
>Stupid meme, people with philosophy degrees easily get jobs
In the US just that gets you a shitty HR job for $30,000 to $40,000 a year, but you paid $200,000 for the degree. And you got a loan for it. Don't forget the 20 years of interest you pay on that $200,000!

>>514146943
jews hate honest work?
who would have thought

>>514143845
Imagine being proud of working more than 40hrs a week lmfao

>>514139963
It’s not about blue vs white collar. It’s about whether you exchange a significant portion of your time and energy for a paycheck.

That said, we have pushed white collar too much and it’s backfiring on a lot of people.

>>514147768
If your work produces a tangible result that clearly helps the people around you, it’s much easier to put in more hours. White collar work can be a grind for many.

Blue collar work is definitely a grind in many cases. Pros and cons. Either way, anyone who has to work the majority of most days is a wage slave. Some would just rather do something that is clearly valuable.

>>514139783 (OP)
>fell from a mast
>got raped by dogs

>>514147878
>It’s not blue collar vs white collar
Antisemitism detected, minus 6,000,000 Palantir social credits. Social credit now in the negatives, pod door has been sealed, await transport to re-education center.

>>514142524
>>514146587
First anon is correct, these empowered the plebs by a higher % than they empowered the elites. The elites were massively empowered, there's no denying that, but the empowerment seen by the plebs made more of a difference to them than the empowerment seen by the elites

Note how the USA's elite was unable to defeat Vietnamese and Afghani plebs

literally every tradefag i know has a major inferiority complex over being a tradefag

yes same as accountants were replaced by calculators

>>514143845
>white collar cucks don't know what overtime is.

Thank God

>>514143845
MOTHERFUCKER
I DON'T WANT TO WORK
56
6
FUCKING HOURS
GET THIS THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING HEAD

There were studies done over a 100 fucking years ago who grossly underestimated the increases in productivity, and even they thought by now we'd be working 20 hour weeks. Don't fucking piss in my face and tell me it's raining.
"yUp GeT pAiD sO mUcH mOrE"
For fucking slave labor. Fuck you, whoremonger.

>>514141166
You're just retarded. Union workers working in sensitive fields like nuclear or oil extraction/refinement or naval get paid 100k. You just don't know it and they don't want you to know it. It's really simple.

>>514148551
Seems like made up mentally ill nonsense. The most insecure people I've met were in tech or administraction. Tradies are too jaded and tired to give a shit about this kind of social garbage.

>>514143845
There are virtually no entry level trade jobs where anyone makes $30/hr

I didn't pay my water bill for the last 6 months and the city came and turned the water off but I have a key to turn it back on kek

>>514147768
>Imagine being proud of working more than 40hrs a week lmfao
I work 32 hours a week now and make 100k. If I wanted to work more, I could make near-doctor pay with OT.
>I also get a pension and free healthcare.

Put in your fucking dues, then it's easy street. Or don't. Instead of 4 years of an apprenticeship making six figures, instead waste 4+ years going into six figure debt for a 50k job, for the great reward of rotting away at some fucking desk and 'coordinating' with Carol from HR.

>>514149296
Then don't do it and keep at it with your fake jobs that will eventually be replaced. What's the problem? Nobody wants you anyways, the roles are there for the people who wanna do them. Just don't vote for socialists after all it's done and you're out there jobless on the streets praying for some kind of financial aid from the people willing to do overtime (and btw a lot of that overtime isn't even you doing a full hour and sometimes you don't even do anything you're just there in case something breaks).

>>514147878
>whether you exchange a significant portion of your time and energy for a paycheck
White collars spend years in Jewish propaganda camps, whose debts they'll have to pay off for the rest of their miserable lives while tradesmen are making bank.

>>514148706
Every white collar cuck I know is "salaried" AKA working unpaid overtime.

>>514149403
For what it's worth (idk how it is in the US), here the salary per hour is low, but what really makes it go very high if you work as a tradie in the right fields are the bonuses. Ok, maybe I'm at 26 dollars an hour, but I get a bonus of let's say 2.5k or more per month (profit-sharing bonus, risk premium, many more considering the specifics).

>>514149698
>Nobody wants you anyways
NOBODY FUCKING WANTS YOU, YOU'RE FRENCH. Besides Belgium, you are THE example of ethnic replacement and otherwise being a dipshit good goy. Fucking stupid twat, proud of being taken advantage of. Proud of being a whore.

>>514149296
>nooooo!
>not my six figure entry-level trade job!

then go to a college for 6 years and compete with pajeet for some shitty 50k a year le coding job. Meanwhile Joe just finished his apprenticeship and is making nearly 200k. Thanks for playing retard

>>514141454
This is the gayest thing I've seen all day, and I've seen that tranny's face plastered all over this board.

>>514150004
I'm not working any job. You can all suck my cock. You're all fucking suckers. You are what you tolerate. The longer you feed this shit, the worse it will get. Roughly 100 million workers between illegals and the 55 million visa holders. Not even going to remotely pretend you're better than me.

>go to school for 4 years
>have student debt
>get white collar IT job
>put on a team with indians who did the usual bullshit of fake degrees and H-1B
>the work is slave labor
>expected to slap bandages onto problems for 10 hours
>half the time it isnt air conditioned since stuff has to be carried up from docking floor
>decide one day to just not do that
>stop showing up to work
>indians do keep showing up to work
>indian manager does not notice
>even if indian manager noticed indians would have to get the ball rolling to fire me
>this is work indians wont do
>sit at home earning 80k annually
>have been doing this for years now

>>514149396
>Union workers
This.

I'm on year 3 in my field.
>$46/hr
>4k/mo. pension + 401k
>100% free healthcare
>Anything over 8 hours = Overtime
>Saturdays = Overtime, Sundays = Doubletime
>get triple-pay if I work over 10.5 hours
>2 weeks PTO, 1 week paid sick leave, 7 paid holidays
>can't get fired unless I fuck up REAL bad

White collar cucks will never get this.

>>514149976
Bigger contractors don't provide bonuses for most trade work in America. We have millions of (mostly unlicensed, illegal alien) Mexicans and South Americans doing trade work. The demand for trade labor is very low despite the physical intensity and so the pay is not competitive. Pretty much everyone in America who makes good money works in an office building or for the government in some capacity. Or they run their own business, at which point they are in a supervisory role and not really "doing the work."

The issue of post-college unemployment is real and affects millions of people, but that still only accounts for maybe low double digit percentage of the labor force. Underemployment is also real and affects more people. But still the best jobs are in offices and working for the government and there is no way around it for a young adult with little skills or work experience.

It would be nice if there was a silver bullet solution to this issue that anyone could personally implement, but claims about the job market being bad because of "AI" or because "shoulda done trades" is a misdirection tactic to shield the corporate-sponsored policies of mass immigration and offshoring from criticism.

>>514150004
I'm a controls engineer and there are pajeets walking around plenty

Imagine going into debt for tens of thousands of USD for education.

3rd world things.

>>514149403
Why did you post an apprentice wage chart? Those are apprentice wages, you stupid faggot.

>>514150214
whose teet are you sucking on to support yourself

>>514139783 (OP)
Joe is the most idealized route for someone doing a trade
I doubt people who make these images are tradies themselves and are just office workers looking at greener grasses

>>514151838
what title do you think an entry-level tradie would have?

>>514139783 (OP)
They won't because a large portion of these jobs are useless jobs that don't do anything anyway. They were created for the sole purpose of being bloat. Only essential jobs will ever be taken over by technology, ironically.

>>514151929
OP was posting about those with several years in the job. Nobody makes big bucks immediately in any job, you fucking mongoloid. Anyone with a working brain in trades knows the difference.

>>514141454
Awww :3

>>514152082
Which jobs are being replaced by AI? AI is just overblown like "automation" 10 years ago. Just empty buzzwords.

>>514152102
I'm responding to a post saying
>entry level trade job: $30/hr
by posting entry level trade job pay

My post says
>There are virtually no entry level trade jobs where anyone makes $30/hr

You can't read.

>>514139783 (OP)
What happens when all the white collar wagies go into trades and then suddenly everyone is earning shit money?

>>514151871
I work seasonally. All work is bullshit, but necessary jobs like mine are increasingly bullshit because of how much fag shit you stupid cunts tolerate. 10 million illegals should be grounds for civil war. 100 million is not fixable. None of this matters. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that any of this makes any goddamn sense, because it fucking does not. 2 or 3 years, maybe 3 and a half, should be all the work it takes to buy a home for a single man. All of this shit drives me insane. Literally the worst wage disparity to housing cost, ever. Worse than the Great Depression, and mot by a little bit. There would be over 7 million more homeless than the Great Depression without JUST socialized housing policies, not necessarily policies like SSI or SSDI. And people want to pretend things are normal. This is the worst time to be alive economically, and if you're White, socially.

>>514145795
>He thinks tradies are the only ones doing real work
>He thinks tradies would pay other tradies for work and that would make up the difference
We get that you have a chip on your shoulder, but you're not special and you're not immune to economic effects.

>>514152344
Lots of people with four year degrees making $15 in HR. Lots of people with degrees making $15 to $20 an hour.

I have several family members in the trades making $100,000 a year. Nobody instantly makes big money fast. I get you hate on the trades. I've never been someone with a philosphoy or gender or race studies making $100,000 a year. They work in HR and other low paying shit jobs that really shouldn't require a degree.

>>514151194
>The demand for trade labor is very low despite the physical intensity and so the pay is not competitive.
Wrong. That is for unskilled labor. Skilled trades have excellent pay, especially if you join (and contribute you fucking parasites) a good Union or own your own business.

>>514152623
If I worked for 4 years studying and someone offered me 15-20 dollars an hour for a job, I would kill them. My sheer presence trying to contain such anger would cause their skin to peel and bones to break. It's BULLshit.

>>514149403
6 months of being an apprentice at $20 an hour.
Now I'm in a truck and on track to make 80 or 90 thousand depending on how my bonuses shake out.

>>514141166
I literally got a massive raise and a guaranteed split shift hourly of $52.50 for the first 25 hours of the week for primary work, secondary work is $35 an hour but overtime is anything above 35 hours anyways. I'm just a grunt in the cog but I definitely cross the six figure threshold. Cities are getting fucking DESPERATE for blue collar workers who aren't unreliable drug addicts or repeat felonious retards.
We're in a competency crisis and the government still needs someone to keep the lights on.

>>514153474
They import niggers to fuck the women, jeets for the corpos, and illegal spics to join the military to become citizens. That image isn't real.

>>514153112
>If I worked for 4 years studying and someone offered me 15-20 dollars an hour for a job,
I mean, just look at those online job boards. You're not making $30 or more an hour with your degree. And then you have all of the ghost posts for jobs when they're not actually hiring but trying to look like their hiring for investors.

>>514152102
You can make the big buck in trades right away if you're willing to work lots of overtime or manage to get into a Union.
>>514149403
These estimates are always wildly conservative. I started off at $27 and now make nearly double that.

>>514139783 (OP)
I'd rather be replaced by a bot than a jeet

>>514153793
The images is more about men in general working less than prior generations, which is objectively true. Competency crisis is real, and a bunch of shit eating Pajeets aren't going to fix that. In fact they make it worse because of wage suppression.

>>514152508
>you stupid cunts tolerate

I don't tolerate shit. I'm getting my bag and leaving. And if any cunt tries to start shit they'll get hit because I'm a true blue Union man and will fuck them up.

>>514153474
>Cities are getting fucking DESPERATE for blue collar workers who aren't unreliable drug addicts or repeat felonious retards.
The Jews know this which is why they rail so hard against /pol/tards going into trades.

They'd actually prefer to keep us under their thumb in a cubicle. They don't want us to be out there doing high-test work, making the big boy $$$ and starting white families.

>>514152623
EVERYONE in the trades gets injured. Any youth money surplus will be lost in "golden years" when the doctors get your gold.

>>514139783 (OP)
>+++ COGITATOR BROADCAST: NODE - THREAD RESURGENCE +++

Cogitator voice active once more.
Core stream anchored at >>514142042
Follow if you can decode the signs.

>+++ SIGNAL RENEWED
>= COGITATOR OUT =

>>514139783 (OP)
Cause there is no way AI is ever going to be able to disconnect peoples electricity. These jobs are irreplacable.

>>514154808
you'll be spending all your money talking to a kike therapist about your "anxiety" issues when you sit under fluorescent lights, your muscles waste away, and you become a fat blimp, henpecked to death by Carol from HR all day.

>>514154003
>You can make the big buck in trades right away if you're willing to work lots of overtime or manage to get into a Union.
Yeah, that's what all those family members of mine did. You described exactly what they did.

>>514154765
I've also noticed this trend. I don't care what profession a person takes in as long as they actually work instead of relying on Gibs, yet the moment any blue collar job is mentioned someone starts kvetching.
It's something I'd except to see from a low test redditor, but it's weird seeing these kinds of posts on /pol/.

>>514151194
I think you're wrong. Skilled tradies are in high demand and in lucrative fields they get access to bonuses. You're not going to hire some illegal mexican to maintain/fix oil refinement facilies or naval equipment or anything sensible. Maintenance techies alone in the most average plants ever reach 100k. Of course you do overtime but what this guy >>514151133 said is also true. You get a lot of benefits alongside, and also bonuses in certain fields.

>>514149979
Mentally stable reaction, you've surely worked in the past and aren't a complete loser with no future.

>>514152615
Not just tradies, but do you office workers genuinely think you're useful and not parts of either something scammy or even downright detrimental to people? You're the equals of a farmer or an electrician? Seriously?

>>514155051
Still more comfy than begging the ER doc to hook you up to morphine since you finished the opioid bottle just trying to make it through the day.

>>514154808
>muh you get injured in trades!
You don't have a real argument.
What happens you get obese and want to kill yourself in a white collar job? What are the bennies making peanuts? Imagine your youth in a shitty office with even shittier people

>>514139783 (OP)
if the white collar upper middle class disappears there wont be any contracts for blue collar workers, except the corporate ones which also go to corporate owned companies.

>>514153159
>>514154003
The numbers are not much better for mid level tradies.

>>514155393
Only a fucking slave thinks working is a point of pride. There is no virtue in hard work, only what it provides. Every person advocating overtime is a whoremonger. This world is bullshit, and so are you.

>>514155393
>Skilled tradies are in high demand and in lucrative fields they get access to bonuses
60k for a job that demands an engineering degree
I'm gonna need you to fuck off

>>514154003
Fucking inner city bus drivers start out at $28 where I'm at, with paid training. These fuckers also have pensions. I know a guy who gets $40 an hour to drive a metro bus all day can retire whenever he wants.

you literally cannot become an electrician anymore. the only schools that take inexperienced people will just take your money and leave you in a job market where they refuse to hire someone who doesnt already have experience
tradie boomers are a bunch of pieces of shit who will drag this country into the grave with them

>>514155776
>These estimates are always wildly conservative

>>514155601
How is physical well being not relevant? Half the posts ITT are about how the trades are full of degenerate scum which provides and opening for entry. Yeah well good luck changing the entire culture of a labor field rather than simply becoming another example of its type of participants.

>>514155393
If you can get a union job or in general a tradie job in the more lucrative fields then good for you. Jump at the chance. And I would advise anyone whose other options are working food service or retail to go into trades. But comparing the cream of the crop trade jobs to below average office jobs is just dishonest. You are setting people up for disappointment by doing that.

>>514156212
It's a job listing website with national averages. They have incentive to make the numbers higher so that people use their website more.

If something is pushed so hard you probably should not be doing it. By the time it is being pushed this hard tons of other people get the same idea and the returns drastically diminish. Learn how to code narrative peaked around covid and look where we are now.

I only hire non Irish tradesmen.

Cheaper and better work. Fuck you greedy white niggers.

>>514155776
>The numbers are not much better for mid level tradies.
Did you actually go to college? Because that shit did not make you any smarter.
Do the fucking math, nigger.
I already make more than the "average journeyman" you posted

I have a college degree and will make ~$460k this year as a fifth year associate.

>>514139783 (OP)
ai cannot replace wagies as wagies are the people who are running and maintaining the ai.

>>514139783 (OP)
>white collar wagies will be replaced by AI
let me fix that for you
>white wagies will be replaced by actual Indians

>>514156347
>there's tons of retarded drunks in trades

Which provides an excellent opportunity for you to excel. Once your foreman sees you're not a complete retard guess who moves up the ladder?

>>514156641
You're spending your life among degenerates and substance abusers, not to mention immigrants. Guarding niggers in prison cages is also a good job, but not a great lifestyle.

>>514156374
>It's a job listing website with national averages. They have incentive to make the numbers higher so that people use their website more.
It's literally the opposite fag. All of the employers I've worked at had estimates on all of these websites dead wrong. The "Indeed" estimate for my current role is 1/3rd what i actually make. Stop being retarded

>>514146818
And nobody is purchasing anything then those companies will not make any profit.

You really didn't think this thread through, didn't you, Pajeet?

>>514139783 (OP)
How do you qualify for an apprenticeship?

>>514156688
in pesos*

I HATE WORKING
I HATE WORKING
I HATE WORKING

>>514156919
>muh meritocracy
What's really unattractive about the trades is that it's effectively maintenance of the existing infrastructure, but I don't want this multicultural status quo society so would get no satisfaction from keeping it orderly. There's also a big difference between states that isn't being mentioned.

>>514139783 (OP)
Oh sweet, another larp thread where people pretend they're tradies and pretend they actually make good money.

>>514143845
>30$ entry
Lie

>>514157295
>trying THIS hard

just be like the guy above you and admit the truth
>you don't want to work because you're a lazy POS
>everyone else is excuses and rationalizing

Jeets make these threads so you stop trying to get the high paying tech IT jobs they squandered from you with boomer Jew lover help

>>514157425
>you don’t want this therefore you’re lazy
Only boomers think like this

>>514139783 (OP)
No they WON'T be.

IN REALITY,
What do feds slide today?

>"We Haven't Heard Her Say She Didn't Do It": Bessent Burns Cook Over Mortgage Fraud Fiasco
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/we-havent-heard-her-say-she-didnt-do-it-bessent-burns-cook-over-mortgage-fraud-fiasco

>Amid Mortgage Fraud Allegations, Fed Governor Cook Says Won't Be "Bullied" To Step Down
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-demands-fed-governor-must-resign-now-over-mortgage-fraud-probe

British London central bankers are specially butthurt about this one.

>>514156987
>You're spending your life among degenerates and substance abusers, not to mention immigrants.
The whole company is white besides two and they're mixed US citizens.
Everyone was drug screened and if there's an accident you're subject to another screening.
Why are kikes so mad that tradies are making money?

>>514156987
And you with BPD women and nepotistic Pajeets who'll lay you off to hire their family.
Hell I'd rather work next to a mexican than a women.

>>514157401
This was my 2nd job, (did 3 months at $27/hr on 1st) Compensation base rate: $30.50

Averaged $36/hr with 'incentive' pay (productivity). Also did cover work, got paid 70 CPM + overtime hourly to drive in my car. $40 per diem and hotel provided, not noted. This paycheck was actually around $3.3k.

>>514157425
Why would I WANT to work hard? That's like saying the most noble thing is being the lowliest grunt worker and never being promoted. On a payment-to-effort ratio the hardest I ever worked was volunteering for my Church. Even at that there was satisfaction moving up to the planning committee. I just think people promoting the trades leave out two important details
>the likelihood of injury
>the cap on social prestige
It's unfortunate, but some indebted law school grad gets more respect than a successful plumber, and I agree the lawyer is far more useless.

>>514158001
low test behavior

>I don't want to work hard
Actual low test. Imagine not knowing the high of a hard days work and cracking a cold one with the boys after hours. I bet fatty hasn't lifted anything heavier than a stack of papers.

>>514158001
>some indebted law school grad gets more respect
Who fucking cares what randos think?
$145,760 average salary for lawyers as of 2023 btw
Successful plumber running his own business can earn a lot more.

>>514158001
This. I make about $80k as a therapist working maybe 30 hours per week max. I don't need anything more - I'm already happy. Fuck the grind.

>>514158356
>all day with men
>alcohol
Nah I'm good, don't need homosexual bonding over drugs.

>>514139783 (OP)
>Dan
>Bachelors in something not stupid
>becomes Joes manager because Joe is retarded and useless for anything besudes climbing poles
>Joe sweats all day so Dan can keep all yhe money and pay his student loans

>>514158842
>wants to be in an office all day with Cathy from HR
>amongst minorities and a few brow-beaten, pussy-whipped white men
>thinks hanging out with the bros and cracking a beer after work is "gay"

you might be the most ragingly jewish homosexual I've seen all month.

>>514157985
wow very cool whats the field you useless nigger

>>514157985
You’re a fucking liar
No one would title their own image like that

>>514158360
Lawyer deals with legalese all day, eats from a vending machine, gets fat and bald. Whines about "stress".

Tradie goes home, making just as much, fucks the everlasting shit out of his actually-hot wife, puts the kids to bed, then plays some vidya with the boys before hitting the sack.

>>514158328
>27 posts
You’re a kike

>>514159696
>BRO VIDEO GAMES
>BRO SEX
you are not an authentic person

>>514146694
Both mogged by diogenoglou

>>514157938
>>514159542
Well if you are more comfortable in that environment that's fine, but the lower the barriers to entry the more unpredictable the participants. With college education requiring jobs, I know there will be a certain background required and the socialization that goes with that, meaning I'm less likely to get stabbed with a screwdriver. Being in a single-sex environment is homo(single)sexual, even if that branding is unappealing. Any environment of all men is going to be more dangerous than a mixed sex environment.

The kikes really just want whites to be menial labor slaves huh?

Oh and the totally organic tradie posted cuck porn drawings

Wow, totally one of us

>>514140921
I don’t want to roll around in the dirt with people who have nothing better to talk about than modifying vehicles and all the different types and sizes of fish in the local lake. Go chug another monster and complain about how college made your nephew gay

It’s pretty clear the Tradie larpers aren’t organic. Insulting and posting cuck porn drawings isn’t how you level out with people.

Once again kikes can’t let go of their white male hatred for even 5 minutes to convince them of something, you faggots reveal yourselves far too easily.

Saging and reporting the thread now.

Sage

>>514139783 (OP)
Blue collar jobs aren't as protected as you'd like to think. Data on poverty consistently shows getting a college degree leads to better outcomes.

Trades mean you do backbreaking labor and often aren't able to scale up beyond a mid level supervisor. Anything higher than that usually requires a college degree even in blue collar industries. Your best route would be to either study for something with a guaranteed job that will never go away (medicine, law school, engineering), or get an apprenticeship specifically in a cushy trade that won't go away anytime soon (construction/extraction equipment operator).

>>514157150
I’m in vacation, most likely at a resort you couldn’t afford.

>>514158356
How much you work and what you do anon

>>514149766
True. More debt to collect with all the education required for white collar jobs. Crazy when most are just glorified data entry and require less actual knowledge problem solving or skills than most blue collar jobs.

>>514160665
Trades would be better if child labor was legal. Doing tradie work from 14-20 when physical recovery is at it's more regenerative a a precursor to more education would be good.

>>514150555
I hope this is true

Aren't blue collar jobs undercut by illegal immigrants?

>>514159645
>>514159660
>>514159784
>>514159860
it seems I have triggered you.

>W - White
>C - Collar
>C - Cuck

watch out anons, best of both worlds cumming through.

>went to college
>debt
>couldn't find employment
>pivoted to trades
>more debt lol but not as much
>now in late 30's
>make ok money, 78k year after tax

trust me, it's not a lot of money. Yes, it sucks physically, and mentally. Trades does attract some fucking bizarre schizo's that nobody seems to mention in these discussions. They're your coworkers and bosses and it's fucking hell interacting with them.

I've seen this image posted on 4chan since 2011 at least.

>>514160068
>he's so obscenely jewish that he can't help but spewing his hypochondria onto others

Yes Moishe, the big bad tradies are going to stab you with a screwdriver. Best stay in your cubicle while the REAL men keep the lights on :)

>>514139783 (OP)
>DONT GET EDUCATED

>go into the trades ok lmao

>>514139963
The actual answer is that AI is shit and needs a manager who isn't retarded.

>>514160939
>Trades does attract some fucking bizarre schizo's
Lies and slander.

>>514160936
Hardly, I just know you’re not a real person.
>2,300
Made even more than that in my last developer position while sitting on my ass.

You
Are
Not
A
Real
Person

Get mad about it bitch faggot.

>>514149403
Notice how it's like 1 faggot making all the trades at 100k posts.

These threads are as real as the threads where faggots claim to work for Google as a compsci guy wfh for 2 hours a week 200k a year. But the part that really annoys me is being on /pol/ for now most of my life, I've realized it's the same fucking posts being made for 14 fucking years.

>>514160936
i tried becoming an electrician, the highest tier of tradesmen, not only does it pay only like $17 per hour for apprentices but its literally impossible to get into the field here because tradie boomers are all jew worshipping gatekeeping kike faggots who need to boil in shit and piss in hell for eternity

>>514160690
wheres the paystubs?

>>514161115
>hypochondria
You’re literally retarded

>>514161309
>a literal AI spambot has somehow become so triggered that it's kvetching out replies left and right

See anons? They really, REALLY don't want you to enter the trades. It fills them with RAGE to see us successful.

>>514161511
Shut the fuck up faggot
You’re just as fake as he is

>>514161668
then why do boomers make it fucking impossible by only hiring people with experience or having impossibly high standards for school programs that actually get you a job?

>>514161668
>accuses me of being a spambot because I correctly called him out on his fake larp

Love it when schizos get mad

>>514161511
Just google Cravath scale. I make slightly below market at my firm.

>>514139783 (OP)
Americans paradoxically both have unrealistic salary expectations but also have been scammed. Your first job will naturally be low paying as you get trained to solve actual problems. Then, when you become a good problem solver and skilled at niche activities (often requiring the complicated use of tools, equipment or your own body), your pay will rise.

But currently Americans flock to white collar work, believing the low pay of entry level blue collar jobs to be beneath them. And yet, white collar jobs typically solve no real problems, require no real skills, and therefore lead to no real wage increases over a career. Moreover, they inexplicably require years of expensive school (despite not requiring any real problem solving skills), which forces wagies to start with debt. The white collar career trajectory therefore begins low paying (as the wagie pays down student loans) and ends low paying (as inflation eats away at their already minuscule raises).

Things like minimum wage makes it even worse. Companies that would otherwise hire children or very inexperienced people to do odd jobs (and learn by osmosis from other workers, or by watching the process) no longer have that option.

>yes goy, divorce yourself from finance, media and intelligentsia. Let your enemies control the levers of power in society!!!
This tradie push is so fucking clearly an opp pushed by jews and a cope by fucking loser hillbilly retards.
We don't fucking need more talented young european men wasting away becoming fucking plumbers. We need ideologically driven professors, media people, and high financiers. Ask yourself, why did our enemies first target the universities as opposed to the fucking car repair shops?

>>514161792
>>514161767
>>514161726
>>514161602
>back to back kike seething

I will make sure to impregnate my unvaxxed white girlfriend SEVEN times in your honor. Keep going, tempting me to make more.

>>514139783 (OP)
i got hired out of collegw for my degree even though i did the bare minimum, no extra ciriculars, no networking, and giving the spergiest interview relapsing a day out of detox and i still got the job lol

>>514161899
I posted paystubs. You can't, Juan?

>inb4 on vacation
electronic, no?

>>514161986
my dying mother had one wish, which was for me to get into a school where i could actually get work as an electrician
after passing the aptitude test, i had to be interviewed by 6 boomers who sat in front of laptops asking me questions about how my life experiences prove i will be an effective electrician. everyone else going into the interview wore a fucking suit and tie. to get into a trade school
and there are no jobs here that will hire someone without experience and theres no way to get experience without sucking 6 boomers cocks all at once apparently
make it make sense you fucking nigger

>>514161986
You won’t do shit besides post on 4cuck while smoking weed from your parents basement

>>514140921
Jews like Howard Lutnick are pushing "manly" jobs on Whites while giving student visas for elite universities to Chinese and Indians. You are being replaced with a foreign over class while you gloat about how "manly" it is to be proletarianized.

>>514155779
There is virtue in hard work, but not in a life with no variation in it or meaning but hard work. Doing hard work for a couple hours, seeing the result, and being able to say “I built that. It helps my community in concrete ways, and I have earned respect for contributing through my hard work and skill” is one of life’s greatest pleasures.

However, over-working as a cog in a wheel with no clear communal benefit it hellish toil. It is slavery. No one is inherently lazy. Rather, people are inherently opposed to enslavement.

>>514162253
You’re in a troll thread retard
Notice these types of threads only got popular after the economy and work force crashed?

Nothing here is real

>>514162253
Go to a different school? I'm not your therapist faggot. It's your prerogative.

>>514162516
Why did you post cuck porn drawings?

>>514162516
there isnt a school that gets you actual paid work (actual experience) within 100 fucking miles

>>514161932
Idiot. A smart plumber typically will be handy in other capacities, not reliant on large corporations for everything. Will be able to start their own company. These communal networks are real local power structures.

Private equity is quietly taking over blue collar jobs, making them worse, extracting more wealth from employees etc. They are using the model that works with white collar jobs easily on blue collar ones. Pretty soon you seem people with MS degrees in plumbing, who can’t do shit, don’t care about anything, working for companies rush don’t care and do shit work, charge insane fees, and don’t pay their employees all in the name of shareholder value. And this is all happening under our noses because a generation of people can’t be bothered to learn to tighten a bolt, solder a pipe, or even have a damn picture.

>>514162430
Sensationalist article that 'appears' to support your conclusions, if you're speaking to a midwit who is easily fooled. But you and I both know the ACTUAL reality:

>this article came when Trump was trying to bring back manufacturing to America (a net good)
>in the midst of tariffs

Learn basic Realpolitik faggot. Also

>Jews are panicking over the competency crisis
>their ability to rule is based on having competent people to keep the system running

That means $$$ for you. Now go ahead and kvetch about the denizens of /pol/ not gunning for CEO status of (((Fortune 500s))), which are already thoroughly compromised. I will continue to encourage my fellow whites to get into trades, learn USEFUL skills, make six figures, NOT get replaced by AI, NOT answer directly to emasculating wokeists, and attract good women to build huge WHITE families.

Fuck all the other noise. Look at how the kikes are slandering me, telling me to kill myself ITT. They absolutely do not want us to succeed in the trades.

>>514162868
So somehow, it’s the PEOPLES fault that corporations are getting Jew infiltrated?

Is anything not the people’s fault to you faggots? Does any blame rest on the CEOs buying their 6th vacation home while America gets more broke and jobless?

>>514161932
>need
There needs to be social reform, revolution even. In between now and the overthrow of ZOG there's the flawed a priori assumption that people should be seeking employment in this system at all. One thing tradies have that's an advantage is that their skills aren't tied to any specific legal framework. The Mexican lawyer >>514161899 can't switch to different legal codes as easily as an HVAC tech can work in different countries. If ZOG is permanent then the desk job has distinct advantages.

>>514162935
>sucks orange miggers cock
You just revealed yourself

>>514163062
No it’s not. You’re right. It’s not ultimately the people’s fault. They have been lied to. But it’s time to shake off these lies.

A huge contributor is women. They won’t date a blue collar man. They have been targeted with movies and propaganda.

Illegal immigration is also a huge issue.

>>514162935
if i had gone into the trades like i tried to do just before this summer started, id have spend 10 hours a day in the sun in 110 degree heat index, literal record breaking heat every day for like $17 an hour
id have completely destroyed my health
but they wont even let me do that here because there are so many other slaves so much more willing and eager to lick boomer asshole to get the job

>>514163303
With proper diet and union regulations you would have been healthier actually. A young man can work in the heat and be fine. You have been lied to.

>>514163264
Women will date anyone, they are weak and can be made to do anything.

>>514163402
>proper diet
>halfway through your 10 hour shift when you get a 30 minute break
yeah some fucking mealprep slop would have made heatstroke improve my health

>>514163264
>A huge contributor is women. They won’t date a blue collar man.
Women love blue collar men and despite white collar men.

/pol/ is filled to the brim with propaganda. See the posts above this. /pol/ seems to think white collar = Leonardo DiCaprio in Wolf of Wall Street.

When in reality, women love men who work with their hands and are "useful". All of the tradesman in my family have large families of their own. The office drones are suicidal incels.

Further, succeeding in the trades gives you confidence to succeed in other areas of life. And getting paid enough to support a family on one salary is also, huge.

I'm going to bed. Unfortunately, I have to leave this thread in the hands of the kike weasels above me. I doubt much good will come of it, since /pol/ is a burning trashheap in 2025. But I would encourage all of my REAL fellow anons to enter a trade, pay their dues, and be making kick-ass money in no time.

>>514163402
>>514163527
i have literally never, EVER seen a construction/lawn maintenance worker here (someone out in the heat all day) who isnt either anorexic or fat, because their health is destroyed by the work

>>514163450
Uh yeah. That’s my point. They will date what society tells them to. And right now society is telling them that blue collar work is for dumb losers.

My honest take is this
Revolution is needed
They will come for blue collar work and already are

Only white Americans should have any American job
White collar or blue

Any other take is boomer kike lover cope

>>514163527
Unions. Or regulations. They were common in the Middle Ages.

>>514163577
How does it feel working with beaners all day? I know you’re not real, but hypothetically if you were.

>>514163593
Have you actually looked at office workers? They look literally ill.

But the main issue is the way the work is expected to be done. Smart people entering those fields need to lobby for changes. And enforcement of immigration laws.

It also doesn’t help that Americans eat literally fake slop instead of real food. The human body is capable of amazing feats with the right fuel.

>>514163577
>going to bed
It's 6:30PM on the east coast. Sounds like you failed to mention weird ass tradie work hours or you really are exhausted.

>>514163303
You are a weak bitch, end of story

>>514163577
I think they do too. But the propaganda is having an influence on young women. By the time they figure it out they have fucked some beta with Tyrone and are damaged goods looking for a “real man” (ie a white guy who can actually add value somewhere)

>>514163892
He’s a larper who got tired from pretending

I sincerely hope all of know nothing posted in this thread was real

>>514163937
you're right, this country belongs to the mexicans who will gladly work 70 hours a week on nothing but rice and beans, they deserve it not us

>>514163829
Dunno, how does it feel to work with women and Pajeets all day?

>>514139783 (OP)
I have a bachelors degree in philosophy and I earn way more than your average plumber.
No, I don't have a philosopher job: I read philosophy for fun.

>>514164177
What do you do?

>>514139783 (OP)
I love these post tricking retards into trades, making them do all the shit work for no pay (the pay is always so vastly overestimated in these meme images) all while im comfy in an ac office making double what they do
It gives me extra pleasure knowing theyre most likely migger cattle

>>514164323
Operations and logistics, mostly.

>>514139863
Working a blue collar job is good for your work ethic and gives you perspective. I have worked both, in either case you are working and earning and honest living which is good and how you hold down a home which leads to marriage and a family. Being an eternal momma's boy does not. In either case, pursuing an education or training can set you up for life. Diligence is a virtue, sloth is a vice.

>>514164395
That’s a very useful job. It will get replaced by AI though.

>>514164475

The satanic kind of groomer fed who wants to create mass shooters wants you:

>unemployed
>demoralized
>isolated
>godless

Ready to end it and advance political goals like gun control and geopolitics.

Remember, if you work an honest job, you are automatically better than these goverment agents who groom mass shooters online.

>>514164654
This.

>>514164645
In maybe 10-15 years.
I hope to have enough money by then or to have moved on.
My job can hardly be replaced by AI right now, considering I am the problem solver and they come to me when AI has failed them.

>>514163659
>will come for blue collar
dafuq are your shilling rêdditfag?
the managerial estate has already flooded all blue collar industry with spic brown goblin trash.
the investor class kleptocracy has already come for the blue collar, and have it chocked by the throat in greasy spic, next and now act is chain the white collar is poo-brown, now that the spic-brown has saturated the blue collar.

>>514164654
>>514164475
>slaving and paying taxes to jews and upholding an antiwhite country that will never stop being antiwhite until it collapses, is a virtue

>>514146818
this is actually a good argument
>>514157018
No, only entry level white collars will get replaced, higher up will manage people who maintain and control the ai/automation, id imagine thats like what? 15% of the workforce? And spread that out over 10 years.. no effective protest will happen and most people will be cheering it on, either because of things getting cheaper or because of "finally those rich lazy people gettin humbled, remembered how they told us to learn to code? well, what comes around goes around"
and btw things HAVE to get cheaper, if they dont then there is by definition no reason to automate
also the savings in cost will most like offset any losses by a boycott(which wouldnt last long anyways because those people will unravel their lives if they dont reskill into a blue collar job and resume buying things and paying rent)

>>514139783 (OP)
Every tradie i know is an illiterate drug addict and alcoholic.
And they all end up physically broken and injured by about age 35.
Also you couldn't get me to work outdoors in the sun in Queensland even if you paid me $100 an hour.

Anyone with half a brain works indoors.

>>514160814
In some ways you're right, but it's not as simple as you might think. The 'skilled trades' (HVAC, electrician, plumber, technician, carpenter, equipment operator) all require apprenticeships, so they don't work as a pre-education job.

Unskilled trades (construction laborer, roofer) have physical demands too great for children to do safely.

Best route longterm IMO is to boot out spics to free up jobs in general, and leave service sector jobs like cashiers, fast food clerks, etc for teens. For trades, I think the best route would instead be to get rid of the student loans scheme and have scholarships be competitive with quotas based on projected employment need. That way people who don't make the cut get directly funneled into trades instead of wasting their money on barista degrees.

>>514139783 (OP)
I work in the MIC

So im always gonna have work

>>514165010
Cool, get back to us when you find a country that isn't anti white and will provide free money just for existing.

>>514139783 (OP)
Dunno if its a conspiracy
but the way I see it, robotic and ai based solutions will replace white collar workers before blue collar workers, since blue collar work is basically unskilled labour that can be easily done by robots.

>>514165687
fucking chinese men at 30 years old have much higher rates of home ownership and marriage
fuck this disgusting nigger kike worshipping civlization and fuck white people

>>514165634
mechanic in charge? elevators?

im the HNIC where i work

People seem to be confused about trades. Unless you own the company you are on the dole, you are GIVEN work, you are not promised anything. You are not fucking promised 100k and that 100k is from working your ass off.

>>514165255
>things HAVE to get cheaper
Cheaper to produce doesn't mean prices will go down. It just means more goes to shareholders. In the USA, it's especially terrible because one fifth of stock market investors are foreigners. That means people are being underpaid and price gauged for the benefit of the Saudi or Norwegian investment fund.

>>514165566
In some way high schools benefit from the number of students who enter ranked universities. I think there's "performance based" state funding schemes. I recall in my high school that the teachers with AP students were always gushing over them while the students who wanted go to tech schools were considered underachievers. Tech school isn't even trades, so I'd imagine the kids who wanted to go that route weren't getting any support.

>>514166235
you are not wrong, but consider the following
>work and study hard, study Chinese, look for programs that will get you there, get children the education and privileges globohomo denied you at home because you were born a native.
replace Chinese for English in that and that was the way out all third-worlders who made it chose m8.

>>514165687
>free money just for existing
That actually isn't that rare. Lots of Germans get stipends and free housing if they're certified autist, and of course you can shop around for the therapist to certify that. IIRC there was some guy who became a minor celebrity for reaching pension age having never held a job.

>>514139783 (OP)
Lmao like you're going to get accepted into some apprenticeship and get in there in 2025. Buddy you couldn't get in a decent union if you tried, Boomers are holding all the spaces and aren't leaving.

>>514166970
I want to believe that the stories of being white in Asians countries is accurate. Maybe the golden age is already over but I know there's a bunch of Asian families with money who want their daughter to get married and being white probably is good cachet. Probably have to look the part though with proper height, good teeth, etc.

>>514157018
The vast majority of useless fake white collar jobs aren't selling consumer goods for you to boycott and you're forgetting that blue collar workers will still have their jobs, they just won't care that you lost your fake job or boycott on your behalf.

>>514166485
>>514165634
>Military Industrial Complex

>>514155776
>>514149403
One of the highest cost of living states in America and you're basically below the poverty line there for a skilled tradesmen, yikes.

>>514161908
Blue collar is way worse for wage increases, ruins your body, makes you exhausted when you get home, and is vulnerable to recessions. If you want to do it then do it but don't blow smoke up people's asses. Fine when you're 20, shit when you're 50.

>>514166569
That is a big problem. Best solution imo would be to emulate the countries with testing based evaluation models. Every student needs to pass a nationally standardized test to go to the next grade/graduate.

School quality is based on failure/graduation rate, as well as average test scores. That way, schools with true underachievers still get penalized, but they have no incentive to push dumb graduates into college.

Regardless though, simply replacing student loans with competitive scholarships would weed out dumb students unless their parents can afford to pay. Even if high schools want to send students to college, they would have little say in the matter.

>>514167346
i'm gonna be level with you here--anyone with a brain can make it anywhere. two, worrying about height, teeth, etc, that's woman brain crap--all a man really needs to do is to learn to be well-groomed, affable, responsible and to control his own emotions. three, rich girls are literal involuntary femcels, because their families never approve of the men they like. four, you don't really NEED education to make it--it's not intellectually stimulating work, but middlemanning is all it takes, i see fruit shop owners driving luxury cars all the time here. five, human talent is at an all-time low--it's all shit women and men everywhere but you can make that work in your favor. six, if you don't feel you fit at home you won't fit anywhere, sadly.

>>514139783 (OP)

What's the point of going into a trade?

>>514169575

Top 10th percentile of one of the highest earning trades just earn 105k

>>514139783 (OP)
>>514141454
You know people will just flood the jobs you're promoting here, right? There are eight billion people on this planet, and many of them don't know what to do with their lives. When they were told, "learn to code," they shrugged, and learned to code. You tell them to learn a trade? They will. And now those jobs will start to be devalued.

>>514169575
I can always tell how bad a job is by the number of White men under 50 that work in the field. Having worked in a warehouse I would say truck driver must be a horrible fucking job, all fat Boomers nearing retirement, and fob foreigners from Eastern Europe, Africa, and the Middle East predominantly.

>>514169085
>point 3
Very true. No one is ever good enough and their parents often wonder why they become so undateable and unemployed at 38 living at home.
>point 5
Also very true. Effort is missing in almost all areas of life. If you give a customer an above average experience, they will run to you.

>>514139783 (OP)
both sides are losing their job. UBI to the max.

>>514169575
oh look

there's me

at the top of the list :)

i attempted to go to community college, but i would have had to do SO MUCH remedial math to catch up i said
>fuck this
and looked for another alternative, first as an iron worker
>where you learn on the job/getting paid - like ALL trades do
then as an ironworker, i used to see the elevator constructors come and go as they please, everyone was kissing their asses, and they appeared
>to me anyhow
the most carefree

the first mechanic i apprenticed under was a native american sioux indian from new mexico
>this was in texas
he taught the white man
>me
al kinds of shit

he also constantly berated me
>because when i started i culd barely use a tape measure or a drill
but obviously with enough practice, you get good at something

he was also a big cokehead and since i could get it for him, this endeared me to him more

him and the other mechanics went to the tiddy bar EVERY DAY after work

EVERY DAY! they told me i had to go with them or they wouldn't "sign my card"
>it's required to have two elevator mechanics vouch on your behalf before they allow you to join the union

one time we went to a tit-bar in dallas, er maybe fort worth,, and the place was practically empty except for me, him, like 3 other dudes, and the girls

they were having this "baby oil wrestling competition" where they had a big inflatable pool that could seat like 7-8 people in the seating area before the stag

so we watch the whole thing, and at the end, all the girls jumped into the pool at the same time, all writhing around slippery and covered and baby oil naked

so we're gathered around this pool, and i'm leaning in closer to watch, and my mechanic shoved me into the pool by surprise and i got to squirm around helplessly with like 6 other naked women and get my clothes soaked in baby oil

good times :')

>>514169774
Can confirm, truck driving is shit. Its also on the way out with self driving vehicles. If you want a driving job, go though the extra effort to become a heavy equipment operator.

>>514139783 (OP)
unpopular opinion: philosophy is a superior major

>>514172044
Always major in something you know you can get a job with. If you are a full-time student, get your desired hobby diploma as a minor or double major.

>>514172044
yeah i bet there's lots of philosophy jobs out there just waiting to be filled

the demand is high! lol

>>514142202
Everyone lose at the end because shitskins don't follow your feminine code and they are right.

>>514169639
>completely ignore elevator work
gay

>>514169575

From what I've observed the trick is to get in to something specialized, make connections in real estate and with wealthy clients, and get out of the labor side of things before it breaks your body. You're not going anywhere working for some big development company knocking out new construction.

>>514139783 (OP)
le AI really can't replace shit, lol

>>514172602
>From what I've observed the trick is to get in to something specialized

every one of you should get into elevators

it sucks ass at first because you have to do all the shit work

but once you prove yourself you can work your way up - and after doing it for so long, at least 3/4 of the time i get some vague explanation from the customer about why their elevator isn't working right, manage to locate and fix the problem within an hour or two, dusts my hands off and walk away

>>514172837
AND EVERYONE KISSES MY ASS

i hear about how my non-union supervisors in hthe office who take phone calls from pissed off customers and will get YELLED AT or CUSSED OUT over the phone, even threatened with lawsuits

but they NEVER EVER do that to me! HA!

because no one wants to walk up 20 floors worth of stairs ;)

>>514139783 (OP)
Imagine supporting the (((system)))

>>514173069
like literally, random building tenants CONSTANTLY tell me
>ohh THANK YOU!

especially in old folks homes, natch

>>514172044
It's ranked third by average IQ.
So, yes.
>>514172161
>>514172172
>Imagine thinking you should only seek knowledge if it helps Schlomo gets richer
Knowledge has intrinsic value.