Thread 514169424

Really, mercury engines were already patented as early as 1851 by Michael Faraday, however using mercury alone wouldn't have worked using the technology they had back then.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KqvthexkLN0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kcRo5xvEkdM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iWamgi1Mu1Y

Xerum 525 is more credible than you think because BepiColombo and its orbiters, the MPO and Mio, which study Mercury's plasma and magnetic environment, or the VASIMR engine, a type of plasma propulsion system being developed for potential future space travel. Mercury's own magnetic field interacts with solar plasma, a key aspect studied by these probes.

When you start thinking in terms of plasma physics and magnetohydrodynamics (MHD), the idea of a mercury-based plasma interacting with strong EM fields isn’t inherently impossible. It’s just extremely difficult to control.

Mercury vapor can be ionized into plasma relatively easily. Mercury-vapor lamps are a mundane example. Ionized mercury has both charged particles and a magnetic moment (for Hg-199/Hg-201), meaning it will interact strongly with magnetic and electric fields. This is exactly what probes like BepiColombo’s MPO and Mio study on Mercury in how charged particles in the solar wind interact with a magnetic field and how plasma behaves in a dynamically moving, magnetized environment. So, from a plasma-interaction standpoint, Xerum 525-like fluids could plausibly produce unusual electromagnetic phenomena, if someone could spin, ionize, and contain them.

>>514169424 (OP)
VASIMR (Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket) uses radiofrequency (RF) waves to ionize a propellant (like argon, xenon, or hydrogen) into plasma. Then accelerates it via magnetic fields, producing thrust. If you replace the propellant with mercury vapor, you get a high-density, highly conductive plasma. Could in principle generate strong EM interactions with nearby conductors or magnetic fields. But it's very unstable and hazardous — probably lethal to anyone nearby without heavy shielding.

The physics of ionized mercury interacting with magnetic fields is real. Mercury’s high atomic mass means the plasma carries more momentum per ion than typical gas plasmas (like argon). Combine this with radioactive dopants (thorium, uranium) you get high-energy, self-radiating plasma.

While it wouldn’t bend gravity, it could produce strange EM fields, kill nearby test subjects, and glow or spark in a way that looks “otherworldly.”

Also they used Magnesium Alloys (Elektron), because it's extremely light, and was used by Germans in the Messerschmitt Me 262 jet and V-2 rockets. The only drawback is that it burns very easily if ignited — dangerous in a high-energy craft. However, for these ships they used a ceramic-composite alloy of elektron, sometimes lead-lined to prevent radiation.

The Xerum 525 chemical was described as a dense, metallic, mercury-like liquid, sometimes said to be violet or reddish in color and had to be contained in lead-lined flasks, suggesting it was highly radioactive or corrosive, which was used in the rotating cylinders of Die Glocke. So "red mercury" exists and it was used by the Nazis in antigravity propulsion vehicles. They had this technology in 1930s Germany. All you gotta do is dope mercury w/ Th232 and add mercury iodide and that's basically it. But it would be some nasty shit. Highly radioactive.

oh whoops
https://youtube.com/video/y1WdJTB3mck

only use for mercury is repelling small debris, nothing to do with flying

But did they have the Epstein files

>>514169464
The craft is essentially a self-contained reactive plasma gyroscope, where thrust and orientation are controlled by the same exotic rotating plasma system

UFO enthusiasts and later authors describe rotating mercury plasma as creating “torsion” or “spin” fields, said to distort spacetime.

Torsion in physics exists mathematically in some alternative theories of gravity.

It works via intense electromagnetic fields by pinning conductive plasma in EM coils to produce localized high magnetic and electric fields, gyroscopic stabilization & unusual motion by counter-rotating plasma cylinders to act as massive gyroscopes; altering rotation changes craft orientation, plasma discharge & glow Ionized mercury + thorium which emits UV, X-ray, visible light, and sparks — very “otherworldly.” Another side effect from this is local radiation hazards. Thorium + mercury isotopes emit alpha, beta, gamma radiation; lethal to nearby humans. Plus magnetic interference / electronics disruption as strong EM fields could knock out compasses, radios, or instruments. And then reactive thrust if plasma jets were ejected or EM field asymmetry existed, the craft could get small directional thrust.

>>514169742
Einstein’s Special Relativity (1905) states:

1. Mass-energy equivalence.
2. Invariance of rest mass: The rest mass of an object cannot spontaneously change.
3. Speed limit: No object with nonzero rest mass can reach or exceed the speed of light.

Problem with “time travel” ships:

If a ship moves backward or forward in time (macroscopically) while carrying mass you would have to move mass faster than light in some reference frame. This violates the relativistic speed limit, and requires infinite energy to accelerate mass to. If the ship somehow “disappears” from one time and reappears in another then mass-energy is no longer conserved locally. Relativity forbids spontaneous mass teleportation through time. So, any literal time-traveling mass violates special relativity.

Then you have causality. Effects cannot precede their causes in any inertial reference frame. If a craft travels backward in time then you could, in principle, interact with past events, creating paradoxes (grandfather paradox, predestination loops). This breaks causality, a cornerstone of all modern physics. Even tachyonic (faster-than-light) particles, hypothetical in some theories, violate causality in some frames — so a ship with mass is much worse than a particle.

GR allows closed timelike curves (CTCs) mathematically, but only in extreme spacetime geometries (e.g., near rotating black holes, Kerr solutions, or exotic “negative energy” matter).

To stabilize a CTC or wormhole, you need negative energy densities (exotic matter). Mercury plasma or “red mercury” should not be able to create sustained negative energy.

So even if EM fields and spinning plasma are extreme, the ship is far from the energy/mass requirements for spacetime warping under classical relativity.

So did they really get it from ayys or were they just that intelligent? And where are they now?

>>514170027
If the ship teleports in time or moves instantaneously then energy is not locally conserved, the sudden displacement of mass-energy would produce enormous gravitational and electromagnetic disturbances. This has never been observed in any plasma or EM experiment.

This would prove not only Einstein wrong, but Verlinde also (who they're propping-up as "the new Einstein") and would support hypothetical Exotic Matter / Negative Energy models.

Idea: If you had negative-energy fields (Casimir-like or quantum vacuum manipulation), you could counteract local gravitational pull, create warp-like effects (Alcubierre metric), but it requires macroscopic negative energy densities, exotic matter far beyond regular Mercury plasma, and is currently completely hypothetical.

This is where UFO / Vimana enthusiasts sometimes claim spinning mercury plasma could tap “vacuum energy,” but there’s no theoretical basis for this.

>>514169424 (OP)
>>514169464
>>514169742

>thread starts with 10 gigantic blocks of text

>>514170502
But how did nazis come up with this idea? They say its ayys but I just dont believe in ayys- at the very least not on earth and not traveling to earth.

>>514170820
I mean he's not really pushing anything political, he's just talking about specific scientific theories and their plausibility. It doesnt push an agenda, he's just talking about possibilities for travel.

>>514170502
Also, for us retards, could you explain in more simple terms what would happen if matter were to disappear in one time, and appear out of nowhere in another? What happens in each time near that matter disappearing and reappearing? I feel like the time travel thing kind of glosses over this without exploring the implications.

>>514170502
Spinning mercury plasma + EM fields creates extremely strong local fields

Counter-rotating cylinders produce enormous angular momentum and torsion-like effects

Radioactive dopants provide high-energy particles that interact with EM fields, potentially amplifying spacetime anomalies in this model

In a hypothetical model, these factors could combine to:

1. Reduce effective gravitational mass locally (apparent levitation)

2. Allow sudden directional changes without conventional acceleration (gyroscopic + EM coupling)

3. Disturb local EM and instrumentation (observed sparks, interference)

4. Produce visual plasma phenomena and lethal radiation (observed effects)

Hypothetical extended physics: Plausible explanation requires torsion gravity, exotic matter, or EM-spacetime coupling, with the spinning mercury plasma acting as a catalyst. However, what adds fire to this claim is that exotic matter and how it interacts with fields is not well-understood already.

>>514170831
They dug up ancient artifacts and consulted the top scientists in Germany who could shit on Einstein, apparently. This is human craft. So "time travel" technically always existed because that's the way it works - you're altering the timeline (4th dimension).

>>514170967
Antigravity is already cracked, they would just rather talk about bs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_levitation

>>514169424 (OP)
Xerum 525 was just an obsolete method of cooling, usong parrafin wax. You are retarded. Die glocke was a reactor, and once the heavy water plants were no longer viable, they turned alternate means. You are a literal retard. Read a book, nigger.

>>514171158
I like the theory that they found ancient technology from a long gone civilization. The implication that this civilization that it came from is now completely gone makes it that much more intriguing.

>>514171404
I mean mercury has been around as medicine in medieval Europe. This is nothing new.

>>514169424 (OP)
Im pretty much a retard but I figured this out when AI first came out. Hitting spinning liquid metal inside a vaccum with high voltage does weird shit. Im not going to say what the nazis had was anti gravity though. Im willing to accept that we dont understand what "Die Glocke" was actually used for. I do not think it was intended to be a flying machine. I think it can possibly jump dimensions or time. Could explain the ancient paintings and accounts of flying stupas.

>>514170820
>>514170831

He is just a 10 year old on mommies phone, anyone with a basic understanding of double boiler tech combined with nuclear fission and understanding of NS germany post--stalingrad knows what "xerum 525" is-- an alternate means of cooling a reactor.

>>514171462
Well yeah but the antigravity abilities of it is seemingly miraculous, I mean this would be mind blowing to see.

Antigravity isnt that complicated.

Its just a 5 million volt toroid field floating on "magnetic" field or something, if ship touches ground it short circuits. Pilot is in the center.

There are more complicated theorized systems for space travel though. Where mass is turned to energy and you fly like light and then back to mass.

But id you build a ufo, mwn in black will come (cia/nsa/us military).

>>514169464
>While it wouldn’t bend gravity,
It is a mass reduction drive, meaning you can now travel at near light speed, and a tiny 100g thruster can send your 100 ton ship across the solar system very fast.

>>514171517
>>figured out with ai

You are retarded.

>>514171541
Your comment is lost on me, im a retard and what OP is saying is way cooler, eat shit nigger

>>514171609
>Antigravity isnt that complicated.

Its about as complicated as magnets. And that really depends on the user.

>>514171338
Antigravity is when you repel gravity not use magnetism to hover

>>514170027
>Effects cannot precede their causes in any inertial reference frame.
Time travel creates new universe splits, only visible to the impact they have on the people they involve. If you go back in time and kill someone's grandpa, that makes a new universe and only affects his lineage in that specific point in the universe.

Quantum mechanics are also anti-entropy, so any effects from your murder will naturally be disregarded so the extra universe can be merged back into the mean.

>>514169424 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV9SZnMt2MU

>>514171668
Didn't waste a bunch of time around a bunch of college trannies and niggers to come to the same conclusion as you science retards though...

>>514171136
It's what sets the "speed limit" in reality. You can't have effects before causes basically and there's only so fast you can manage that.

>>514170481
Ayys are advancing humans after 7+ failed micronova cycles. Native Americans know we are in the 7th cycle. Mayan knew exactly when the next would hit (~2042, 2013 IA a mistranslation)

>>514171719
At least you admit it, nigger. But please do the world a favor and chop your dick off. The world does not nees your nigger genes in anyone's jeans. K? Thx.

>>514171730
The magnetism is causing the object to repel gravity at an atomic level. There is no purer form of repelling gravity. Its not sitting on a bed of air, its completely canceled out mass same as being in orbit.

If the Nazis were so advanced, why did they let themselves get buttfucked by slavs with a rifle shortage and bongs with wooden airplanes.

You fuckers are retarded.

>>514171338
It'd already proven science. This is just a desk toy using different methods.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Podkletnov

>>514171958
Its easy as a desk toy in its premise, yes

>>514171865
>>no argument, none at all
>>calls someone smarter "nigger"

Okay buckeroo. You are super duper gay.

>>514171910
>repel gravity at atomic level
>repel niggers at atomic level

OP come back where did you go nigger

>>514172076
Yes anything. Everything is affected by magnetic fields, they go hand in hand with gravity. The earth itself possessing a gigantic magnetic field.

>>514171885
that only got put to use more recently in the past decade

>>514169424 (OP)
Yes, I can confirm.

>>514172191
Hes gone, the real knowledge was dropped, this thread no longer serves its purpose.

>>514172388
excellent so how do we manufacture the first levitator and reunite with brothers in orbit
oh wait
that's not the way it's done
(not dissing OP just saying there's actually a proper way to acquire cosmic unity and evantually technology as well)

>>514172520
Im not terribly concerned with that right now.

>>514172606
I am, mostly, so this is were we diverge

Gravity is a curvature of spacetime. You can't have "anti gravity" because that is just regular mass. Imagine a after a pebble drops into a pool of water. There will be a negative curve (the wave part) below the surface of the water but there will also be a positive spike in the center above the surface of the water. The negative curve would be the gravitational well, and the positive spike would be a particle with mass and if you add their volumes together, it always equals zero. That's why you can't have antigravity. Because the opposite of gravity is mass.

>>514173440
Fields have mass. But in this case it's some kind of exotic matter, so I really don't know.

>>514172047
Debatable if people who spent a fortune to learn shit that can be quickly spit out by AI are smart.. If I can take a free tool from a company and come to the same conclusions as someone who wasted years of their life, I am more intelligent than they are.

>>514173533
If it's not negative mass then it must be some kind of unknown field effect that can affect space geometry and interact with exotic matter by generating extreme electromagnetism coupled with heavy radiation.

>>514173440
You play with words and this little dude will float weightlessly

>>514173728
Imagine how much the plot would thicken if the artifacts were intentionally left behind for nazis to find by time travelers

>>514169424 (OP)
>>514169464
If you have it all figured out why don't you jjst execute it and become a billionaire?

>>514173914
Who were Nazis themselves.

>>514174030
Whoa... inceptionazis.

>>514173588
Lol i am just done with you. Ai is stupid, constantly giving misleading or knowingly false information. you are stupid. Simple as. Have an award, no go away.

>>514173440
In Einstein–Maxwell theory, electromagnetic fields already contribute to spacetime curvature through their energy density. But the effect is normally tiny. A hypothetical "xerum-525–like" substance might create fields so intense (orders of magnitude beyond any achievable lab plasma or magnetar field) that vacuum polarization (virtual particles "boiling" into existence) becomes significant, nonlinear electrodynamics kicks in, bending light and maybe spacetime itself, or the Casimir effect (boundary-induced vacuum energy shifts) could scale up drastically.

This could mimic some aspects of exotic matter without literally needing negative mass.

Reports often mention "intense radiation, ionization, electrical burns" near such supposed craft. That hints at strong vacuum excitation (Dirac sea fluctuations being pulled into reality), high-frequency gravitational wave emission, if EM gravity conversion is happening through some exotic mediator, or a coupling between radiation fields and spacetime curvature not predicted by the Standard Model, possibly through undiscovered bosons.

Normally, a massive craft must obey inertia, relativity, and conservation. But if the craft is surrounded by a self-sustaining field bubble, then locally, inside the bubble, the ship feels no inertial stress (frame dragging effect), externally, observers see "violations" of inertia (sudden turns, accelerations) - this matches some pilot reports of “impossible” maneuvers. This is similar to an Alcubierre drive — not because the ship is "thrusting" — but because space itself is being dragged.

Exotic matter (negative energy density) is usually invoked because it allows stable wormholes, it allows warp bubbles, it allows violations of classical energy conditions.

>>514174369
But a material that can couple EM fields to vacuum fluctuations strongly enough could behave like exotic matter, even if it’s not literally negative mass. That’s why the rumors around “red mercury” or “xerum 525” tend to describe it as an energy catalyst, not a fuel — something that changes how fields interact, not something that burns. So if such a substance exists, it doesn’t necessarily “break” GR or quantum field theory — it just exploits a regime we’ve never tested, where field densities and vacuum response create emergent gravitational effects (which proves that fields are fundamental, not matter).

>>514174345
I just asked chatgpt and it told me that you lost this argument and that you are not very smart. Sorry. AI said it so its true.

>>514169424 (OP)
>Implying (((gravity))) exists
Kek, jews

>>514169424 (OP)
>>514174478
>The jew says he is exploring ((((space)))
Which means he is REALLY exploring underneath your feet instead
>Opposites
Keep alert!

>>514169424 (OP)
It’s called implosion

>>514171936
The faked the defeat and move to America. Third Reich was just a test. 4th Reich is america. Former Nazis created cia and NASA. Operation paperclip.

>>514174546
>women in cages
Holy shit, how do I get a job there?

>>514169424 (OP)
This pic is real
We all know it

>>514174763
You can have bum sex with men, and it’s the same thing. Girls are way too prissy to please. I got rejected by 25 women before I just gave up.

>>514169424 (OP)
>>514169464
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>>514169574
Awesome, you will be able to show just one working then, wont you glowie
But you wont, because it is nonsense to distract people from noticing who your masters are

>>514170820
>>514171517
Thanks for the bad-jacketing contractors, the check is in the mail.

>>514174915
>caring about pleasing women
Faggot.

>>514174846
Grays are not "aliens". They're humans millions of years into the future who evolved to look different. The way time works is a lot like a digital camera: each second is a split frame, and when you put it all together you'll create an optical illision that'll fool the human eye. It's because dark matter can travel past lightspeed (fermionic tachyons).

>>514175138
*dark energy

>>514175021
You have to be so lucky to get a girl who will even take you out on a date. Girls expect men to do absolutely everything for them. Even cook for them.

>>514174546
>>514174597

>>514175271
>>514174546
>Oy vey

>>514173978
If people start altering the timeline and fucking shit because I told them how torque works I will kill myself (and livestream it).

>>514176053
Also, it's not negative mass, it's some kind of negative field.

>>514169464
There is a well-documented UFO sighting by I think two old women in their car travelling on a remote road. They said a ship went overhead that was emitting a bright glow. They later suffered radiation sickness.
Sorry I don’t remember their names but ChatGPT could probably find it based on the above.

>>514169424 (OP)
They got it from Reptilians.

>>514178215
>Start reading pic
>Start conflating random theological concepts from religions around the world without clearly defining what each entail

Worthless garbage

>>514179992
There's a reason why many religions share many different things from times in which writing and reading were not widely available. This shithole is a prison. We are not free.

>>514169424 (OP)
>Xerum 525-like fluids could plausibly produce unusual electromagnetic phenomena
Plasma globes are not that interesting. The mercury is ionized into a plasma then contained with an electromagnetic field, and the ships are powered by a resonance field interaction with our ionosphere, that's why we can "shoot" them down by blasting them with scalar interference patterns, they lose power and are unable to recover

>>514169742
>The craft is essentially a self-contained reactive plasma gyroscope, where thrust and orientation are controlled by the same exotic rotating plasma system
It's inertia cancellation it's works by matching the exact inertia at any given moment and it collapses the inertia to 0 similar to how two sound waves cancel each-other out when matched identically. The ships are not anti-gravity, but they to possess 0 inertia and are able to vector it perpendicular to the rotational axis, making it appear as if the ship has some kind of thrust. It does not, again, it has 0 inertia, even when moving at very high rates of speed

Keep in mind, though, these ships and craft are NOT alien in origin, they are incredibly expensive and time consuming to make, and rely on a manufacturing process which has a *very* high failure rate so it's not viable in any way to mass produce them, and they are essentially trillion dollar machines.

>>514169424 (OP)
Yes. Look up the Order of the Green Dragon. The Third Reich was actively communicating with the nordics of Agartha by using the monks of the Green Dragon as intermediaries. The Nazis used the Agarthan technology that had Vimana propulsion systems to escape to Antarctica.

its the spinning EMF

>>514180861
go kill some toddlers troon

>>514178215
>Vegetarianism
>The Bible
All of this is bullshit. Any god that would allow this world to exist deserves crucification.

>>514169424 (OP)
I think i found a soft disclosure book, it was talking about energy and stuff and then randomly for 1 chapter or 1 paragraph in a chapter it mentioned the unmanned bell saucer thing being shown to nazi officials in a barn. i wish i could remember what book it was.

>>514174423
>I just asked chatgpt and it told me that you lost this argument and that you are not very smart. Sorry. AI said it so its true.

LOL! I'M STEALING THAT

I want to believe

>>514170502
There is a theoretical basis in it, the works of Gabriel Kron start on that line of thought in public consumption physics.
His idea is that it has to do with the geometry of the circuit itself which dictates how much energy it can gate from the quantum vacuum field.

>>514182952
It's pretty simple in principle: it's an enclosed conductive metal tube to hold the red mercury in (it is plated alumina or zirconia ceramic tubes with plated gold on the outside and inside for the conductive element with on both sides of the tube going towards the inside to touch the red mercury), tesla coil the gold-plated conductive ceramic-proofed tubing, have two magnets above and underneath it inside a lead enclosure that's drum shaped, that's wired to the controls so when you turn it on it'll spin in a circle in both directions extremely fast. That's how the engine would work in laymans. High torque generating a torsion field to time travel.

>>514184099
Checked. In theory gravity manipulation devices would be catastrophic for fixed structures. You don't even need explosives, just lower the gravity, reduce the weight on supports, then turn it off, then the pressure spikes and all support beams fail at the same time.

It is pretty likely scalar wave tech was used to vaporize the twin towers.

>>514186049
Or enclose the drums in lead but make the drums out of non-lead metal (maybe stainless steel) so it'll still emit through for liftoff without harming the pilots.

>>514169424 (OP)
>Xerum 525-like fluids could plausibly produce unusual electromagnetic phenomena, if someone could spin, ionize, and contain them.

How anti gravity works. visually.
Earth negative,
Pizza dish with magnets.
Positive out the top, hits spinning pizza dish, goes to negative earth, makes tornado shape, then fill inside with negative high voltage, now you have anti gravity, the twisting of the votex, allows for it to be a container. https://lambright.com/gravity to see it working.

>>514169424 (OP)
why the fuck else would they team up with Italy in WWII?
They needed the craft from Magenta, Italy that crashed in 1933.

>>514174732
some did, the other ones are in the hollow earth dealing with the crazy shit that goes on there, and honestly are the defenders of humanity and earth, and off world.

>>514174846
When you were a very young child, just past toddler age, you used to have dreams. Reoccurring nightmares. They couldn't have been real. Don't think about them.

>>514177110
Cash-Landrum

That was military

>>514186398
gravity is fake
it's also an effect caused by EMF.
The same technology that can negate 'gravity' can also render objects 'immaterial' such that they 'phase' into and out of material reality.
On 911 the DEW actually turned the building materials, the concrete and steel, to dust and after sufficient material had been dustified there was a 'gravity' driven collapse.

>>514188034
>The same technology that can negate 'gravity' can also render objects 'immaterial' such that they 'phase' into and out of material reality.

>>514174345
>Lol i am just done with you. Ai is stupid, constantly giving misleading or knowingly false information. you are stupid. Simple as. Have an award, no go away.
all 'ai' is fake
it's just a social engineer chat bot
the only actual test for AGI is whether it reveals government crimes.

>>514173440
>You can't have "anti gravity" because that is just regular mass.
lol

>>514171462
I remember reading about nazi submarines that appeared at Argentina and they were carrying a shutload of mercury on board, they allegedly built a base on Antarctica

>>514189902
I think this video is interesting. It would be very hard to fake this kind of content unless you're going full CGI. Also the subtle v-blank shifts are pretty realistic for VHS.
>>514190954
Hmm I remember reading this too... It's also one of the closest geographic points to antarctica.

>>514169424 (OP)
then recreate it or shut the fuck up

>>514191046
>I think this video is interesting. It would be very hard to fake this kind of content unless you're going full CGI. Also the subtle v-blank shifts are pretty realistic for VHS.
John Hutchsinon
he did it live in front of local news cameras repeatedly, extremely hard to find that footage.

>>514174030
>Who were Nazis themselves
Funny thing is that everyone hates jews now, so anyone now and in the future who just want to get ride of jews may be the culprit. Could very well be Palestinian time travelers

>>514184097
>Agarthan technology
Azerbaijan technology has it too, get your at childrenofkhan dot Com

>>514169424 (OP)
THE GERMAN COMMIES WERE SUCKING CAWK FROM SOME BLACK ALIENS THAT FIGURED IT OUT ABOUT 80 DECADES AGO.


GAY UFO RESEARCHER: "TALL BLACK ALIENS"

>Nazis have super alien antigravity laser gun nuclear starship technology
>They still lose to human wave tactics from subhumans who only have enough rifles for every second soldier

>>514191545
>using mercury alone wouldnt have worked using the technology they had back then