Thread 514187349

So is being a skilled Artist basically useless now that AI can generate 1000 decent quality images even better then your typical Artist can scribble a cat. And before anyone mentions “Ai has no soul” nobody in their right mind is paying you to exist at this point when they can just pick and choose from millions of images instantly generated. I suspect musicianship\writing will be next to go and filmmaking after that. Only richfags with inherent wealth will have the domain of being mechanical artists selling their stuff for money laundering as it has always been.

>>514187349 (OP)
AI has a ton of soul, is far more interesting in output than 99.9% of what modern legacy artists do. AI beats the shit out of human made visuals. Period.

>>514187349 (OP)
Musicianship has already been automated away by Suno v4.5

>>514187349 (OP)

Can algoshit-I paint in watercolour or oil paint? Get back to me when it can

Sage

>>514187501
Someone will come up with a modular paintbrush program for a 3d printer pronto. Your shit is worthless.

>>514187349 (OP)
>Only richfags with inherent wealth will have the domain of being mechanical artists selling their stuff for money laundering as it has always been.
Checked.
I knew a guy who graduated from art school for painting large murals. He ended up being 40k in debt because it was a super prestigious art school.

He complained they taught him how to paint but never taught him how to get a job. That + AI revolution absolutely fucked him over

He's had to post his portfolio everywhere but to no avail (He'd be lucky to get a commission every 4 months).
He ended up working retail for a while for scraps, until he finally got a job as an art teacher.

It's still shitty pay, but at least his degree is being put to work somewhat.

So yeah, AI fucked over art students. And I agree that Musicianship/Writing are very close to the chopper now. STEM has become a meme at this point too.

>>514187349 (OP)
If it makes you feel any better, art will be made even more redundant in 10 years

>>514187405
You should have been aborted.

>>514187714
>He complained they taught him how to paint but never taught him how to get a job.

That's always been the problem with art school

>>514187714
Yeah STEM going away is pretty crazy. Ai is being implemented into every workspace from architecture to engineering. Sure you still need a human to go over everything but instead of 100 engineers designing something you have 3. I think truck drivers deserve a raise cause that shit ain’t going nowhere.

>>514187431
Thanks, I've been looking for a way to cut out the music Jew. This seems promising.

>>514187349 (OP)
Diffusion AI has only been a massive boon for artists world wide.
All artistic output quality improved immensely in past 2 years or so.
Just look at youtube's fanmade animation videos. They look near production quality now.

>>514187902
>That's always been the problem with art school
It has been rectified to the umpteenth degree now that AI is a competitor to literally every art student

>>514188023
>Yeah STEM going away is pretty crazy
I was taking a CS degree until AI came around, now I'm applying for apprenticeships in the trades.
I know CS isn't completely dead yet but I want to pull out right now while I'm still ahead of the game.
Soon the rest of lanky CS students will be trying to flood the trades and truck driving positions

>>514188161
Unfortunately from where I live the trades are completely flooded with migrant workers and apprentice workers. I figure getting a trucking job and listening to my fav jams and podcasts away from a stagnant environment is the way to go.

>>514188406
>I figure getting a trucking job and listening to my fav jams and podcasts away from a stagnant environment is the way to go
Just be careful about more desolate roads. I know it's harder to stop a larger truck but crazies will try and rob you if you go onto a dark, lonely road.

Otherwise that might be the way to go if the trades don't work out for me. Would love to custom fit some god-tier speakers and jam out

>>514187349 (OP)
no job is safe.
not even blue collar ones.

>>514188023
Truck drivers aren't going away but they have to deal with their market being flooded by jeets and South asians.

>>514187349 (OP)
Whats the difference between a professional fake and AI. There will always be a market for the real deal.

Produce lots of cuckolding art. This was considered so effective at ruling society that every business uses a logo which is cuckolding. Yeah people hate being cucked. It earns money somehow out of thin air. Worship the bbc, that’s natural anyways for a white person. White people wont do shit they’re total pushovers.

>>514187349 (OP)
>So is being a skilled Artist basically useless now
No, upper middle class/rich people will absolutely pay money for good human-made art. They buy the art not just for the art, but also for its artisanship. They buy it because it was done by a skilled artist.
It's just a cheap piece of shit with zero value if some GPU draws it. You'll never find a snapshot from Skyrim hanging on somebody's wall, but you will find a hand-painted landscape of Skyrim hanging on somebody's wall. Many people in fact, I bet thousands of people have Elder Scrolls paintings on their walls, all hand-created by artists. Why do that if you can just screenshot the game and turn the shot into a photo?

>>514188532
It’s funny cause many people were predicting blue collar would be the first to go and not white collar. Remember the “learn 2 code shit” a while back? Now every office manager is looking at ways to downscale and replace his workers.

>>514187501
>Can algoshit-I paint in watercolour or oil paint? Get back to me when it can
So in like six months probably?

>>514187349 (OP)
AI cannot surpass or even match the human spirit, human creativity, human drive, ect.

>>514187349 (OP)
Bro everyone hates AI Art and just says its for Indians already. I don't even know if AI Movies will ever play at theaters nobody likes it.

>>514188745
Simple cope

>>514188766

Anyone with a computer can make art now

>>514187349 (OP)
Not one AI that exists today can produce a Bob Ross. Even one he has already created.

>>514188688
So the real art demand market is now down 99% to just rich people who can or want a custom commissioned art painting for 10k. And I assume they have to contend with a generated version for free

>>514187349 (OP)
>>514187405
>>514188090
>>514189363
SAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>514189363
You're not making art. You're making a picture trained on art. You're essentially just choosing an art randomizer to GPU a picture you like.
The true value of the art is completely lost, and no one with money would buy whatever bullshit you tell your image gen to make, because it has zero value.
It doesn't even blend color correctly. I've never seen an AI art piece with natural blending. Computers don't understand color grading.

>>514187349 (OP)
you still need artists to generate new original content or you'll be stuck with AI slop forever

>>514189618
There’s was a picture in my art class in highs hook that said “Art is what you make it” so I made it with a computer and edited myself to my liking, see what I did there?

>>514189618
Its just variations on a theme. This has already been in literature about AI. And Star Trek TNG covered it in "Elementary Dear Data"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LgwAD-IioY

>>514189466
None of the artists painting commissioned landscapes/portraits/etc are out of a job. In fact none of the better digital artists are out of a job, people will still commission them because of their name. It's the name that makes fame. That's why the furry community whining about AI art was so funny, any talented artist in that community has fans that commission a piece specifically because it was created by the artist. The artist could use AI and save a ton of work. It's completely stupid to be a digital artist and whine about AI. You've essentially been given a tool to cut 4/5ths of your workload without your customers knowing. If you're a digital artist and you didn't increase your profits by 50% over the last 4 years, you're a retarded communist. Such an easy exploit.

>>514187349 (OP)
>be jidf psyop shill faggot with dildo stuck up your backend
>shill stupid shit threads on image board for minimum shekels
>jobs now taken by AI

eat shit moshe, you've been outsourced too

>>514189895

>didn't increase your profits by 50% over the last 4 years, you're a retarded communist

None of that even makes any sense from a libertarian standpoint, as I’ve stated worthless. The market already decided and the invisible hand has spoken. Most art schools are emptying out now as we speak.

>>514189956
Says the poorhouse sharecropper that’s been replaced by a tractor/ machine.

>>514187405
AI art fucking sucks mate. You have terrible taste.

>>514187349 (OP)
Bob Ross already gave you the answer. His show was called "The Joy of Painting". It wasn't called "The Joy of What I Painted". The point is to create, not to manifest a creation. Bob showed you how using a simple technique he learned, you can complete a painting in less than 30 minutes. But he wasn't doing it for speed or to show off what he made. He was doing it to encourage you to learn how to paint, so you can paint as a betterment for yourself.

People thought photography would kill painting too. Why paint something fake, when you can take a photo of the real thing?

>>514190104
says the master pedo who pontificates from a foreskin cult

reminder you need to wear your yellow star when always posting on this board

its time for another corporate psyop anti ai thread. because you arent supposed to see the benefit of technology.

>>514190045
Genuine artists don't go to art school. I'm telling you that no one selling physical art are fine, and digital artists who know how to min-max are fine too. If you're any kind of decent digital artist, you still have value because you're the one that can make the best-looking AI art generally. You're the one prompting until you get the perfect gen. A company will still value your ability to understand anatomy and form. You're trained in anatomy and form. Photoshop just got better, that's all.

>>514190357
shut up woman, dont you have a nigger dick somewhere to suck

>>514187349 (OP)
The very nature of AI training degrade AI image generation itself. At some unknown point AI will peak and then it will unavoidable degrade due to be training with their own ai slop.

Also AI cannot deliver if you have an ultra specific image in your head, however as many have said before corpofags don't care that the result is shitty or mediocre as long as is cheap

>>514190398
Yeah but your not gonna be making any money off it… it’s just worthless

>>514189895
>>514190357
SAAAAAAAAR

>>514189363
>Anyone with a computer can make slop now
Fixed

>>514187349 (OP)
aren’t rich fags generally already the only ones who have actual art (as opposed to prints) anyway?
I’ve yet to see any AI art I’d hang on my wall, but I’ve seen a lot that would be just fine for stock photos or paperback novel covers. Which I’m sure sucks for whoever was making rent that way.
Some things I have seen that were pretty amusing: that impressionist comedian who does celebrity voices and then uses deepfake software to put their faces over his. His dead Jedi reacting to Star Wars vids are kinda amusing.
I don’t think it’s going take over film completely, but it does look like it can be a good tool for creatives.

>>514187349 (OP)
I heard he was a Navy Seal with 13 confirmed kills.

>>514187349 (OP)
Being a skilled artist has always been useless. Starving artist trope has existed for centuries for a reason. Even Mozart died a broke penniless bitch

>>514190469
You know what hallucinations are? Getting worse.
You know why companies need more and more GPUs to run? Mostly to repair those hallucinations. And the more GPUs you add to the system, the more hallucinations happen, because of THIS fellow right here-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy

The technology won't go as far as people think, because unlike the normal healthy human brain, AI is susceptible to exponentially worsening entropy owing to the nature of electricity and electrons.

>>514190704
his dad worked at nintendo too

>>514190411
>>514190537
t. soon to be homeless trannies

>>514190966
>imagine being a minimum wage jew
must suck hard knowing you're also the worst yidshit in the tranny bunker

>>514190506
>>514190966
SAAAAAAAAAAR

>>514187405
YOU'RE GOING TO REGRET NOT DELETING THIS!

>>514187349 (OP)
ai cannot produce the exact image you have in your mind
if you want to get a specific thing out you have to learn to do it yourself

>>514187349 (OP)
Use AI to make pic related, let's see if it can do it. I don't want photos, I want a drawing like this.
Also, there's no way AI can make a proper song. It can put together soulless slop but it won't be anywhere near Voodoo Child.

>>514191261
Your hand cannot produce it either

>>514191261
Good point as well.
Both have uses. And both have value. Right now. I personally think AI programs are doomed overall from the laws of physics.

>I want to be special and talented without doing the work, challenging myself, which enables me to make my own style
>Ill just let a tool do it for me!
Just pay a painter and say its your work if you want to feel special by doing nothing faggot, ai art still looks like shit anyway

>>514191261
just keep pretending i2i and controlnet dont exist.

>>514187349 (OP)
At this point I’ve been rendered obsolete by AI and by industrialization. There is quite literally nothing I am good at that cannot be done by an AI, or physical craft that either can be mass produced by machine or is something people will pay what it is worth for my time. I’ve put in enough years of work to retire soon, but the PROBLEM is inflation is not slowing and that social safety net I paid into all these years was squandered on generational welfare leeches and immigrants. If I do retire, and I still need to work (I will) I’m looking at probably very low paying and toxic retail.

People lower their standards to “good enough” so long as it is cheaper. We are staring down an extremely dire competency crisis in the near future. If you stop hiring beginning-level workers as writers or to code websites, how are you going to replace your management when they retire? You will have nobody to choose from. Some industries, like food service, are already having this problem. How do you find a decent manager when your lower staff is a constant churn of turnover because you won’t pay them enough? There’s nobody to learn the ropes. Management has to start SOMEWHERE. If you’re replacing your entry-level workers with AI how will anybody advance anymore in anything?

>>514187349 (OP)
It's slop with no artistic value. Might be useful commercially, but people that enjoy art will keep looking for real art created by humans.
Also AI generated slop isn't gonna be truly innovative stylistically.

>>514192268
>At this point I’ve been rendered obsolete by AI and by industrialization.
>At least I can still suck on a pretty mean boy penis

the thread kikes itt are so fucking obvious

>>514187349 (OP)
Generative AI has a great future in advertising and porn, That's it.

>>514187349 (OP)
Ai steals. It can't make it's own thoughts and never will.

>>514187714
as somone in STEM i both hate and love it, I hate that i dont have a job but i also love that people i dont like, like troons and pajeets and niggers also dont have jobs.

Here is the low down
>Those that hang posters, prints, printed canvas on their walls will buy AI generated art
>Those that buy real art, will continue doing so

>>514192658
Advertising yes. And it won't be much different than what they already have. Because in the end advertising is not predictable all the time. It is sometimes. But it will help them in the long run.
>AI porn
This is going to fail miserably. Its crap. porn done by humans will always be worth more.

>>514192661
>own thoughts

You can get surprisingly far with permutations of previously existing thoughts. Much of "original" human thought is like this as well.

>>514187562
>>514187501
It’s called a print of an original painting and it has existed forever

>>514191261
It will get better but right now you’re limited by using language to describe an image
If that problem isn’t obvious then I don’t know what to tell you

>>514191414
Not true
So many artists prove this wrong working in realism purely from the mind without models or pinhole cameras or other tricks
Hurts to hear I am sure

What everyone misses here, because you’re not artists or you consume only garbage from modern sources and mostly things from the internet only I am guessing, is that AI stylistically can be pretty easily identified
Exceptions to that would include a good imitation of another artist’s existing style

Telling it to compose a new image that looks like someone else is nothing
Ultimately it only knows what it has consumed

Many artists bring completely new styles that are completely from left field and seem like magic because they are not apeing any previous artist or combination of artists

Maybe someone already said this but it should be repeated to end these meaningless threads
It’s just more demotivation content to try to keep people from trying at all
Just look how OP, a gaywad, wrote it’s message
The thread itself is AI generated and it’s weak unoriginal posts and arguments reinforce my thesis here

Sorry lol I am just going to keep making art I know I know I just won’t stop

>>514187821
DR lol

>>514193370
Dude.. People jack on Brony.. AI pron will be the shit..

>>514187349 (OP)
Art is about expression, not necessarily the ability of the artist.

people who act like they know how ai art works while they speak against it always pretend the only way to get images is from talking to chat gpt or dalle. thats how you know theyre corporate shills.
theres shit thats 3 or 4 years old that completely dismantles their arguments. you know, the open source stuff.

>>514194008
What really comes down to is having an actual skill and being original. The era of bullshit abstract splatter and 0 effort is done.

>>514187349 (OP)
I’m an artist and ai is an awesome tool. Shitty I creative art will drop out of the market, but it’s just another tool. Can’t replace creative minds.

>>514194176
Sure, it is about expression, but unless you are only making art to hang it in your living room, you have got to be more original and actually put some fucking skill. Lazy fucking dumbass

>>514187349 (OP)
Is there any demand for AI art or products? Who is willing to pay?

>>514194272
Agreed. And same here

>>514194311
Naw, conceptual art is a masturbatory circlejerk of funding that doesn’t seem to have an end in site. I have a lot of experience in that world and I don’t see it ending any time soon, certainly not to ai because it is out of its scope presently. What’s really going to die are deviant art tier shit, illustrators, low level design work etc.

>>514194420
Whoops, this was meant for >>514194265

>>514194317
A lot of bread and butter jobs will be gone, like designing the logo for bobs mechanic shop down the road, making a simple flyer etc. at this point, unless you are big enough to be doing it in house or tied to a major design firm, you are just going to get it for free from ai rather than paying someone to design it like you used to.

>>514192793
>i also love that people i dont like, like troons and pajeets and niggers also dont have jobs.

I swear for years I've heard people brag about tech being dominated by those on the left. They basically voted for their replacements.
A few years ago a University of San Francisco campus laid off its IT staff and outsourced the work to India.

>>514194551
I've seen punk venues get called out for making posters with AI to advertise shows.
Some think it conflicts with the DIY ethos, while even saying the venues shouldn't make the posters themselves but pay someone to draw them.

>>514194701
thats cause most "artists" are generally pretty useless people whenever needed outside their niche "talent". So they feel threatened by all this, they see their future as hobo's, which would be justice, hell they may even have to pick up a shovel or hammer, the horror!

>>514187349 (OP)
>>514187405
>>514188090
AI "art" will never be good at anything other than smut. In fact, many hentai websites now have an AI filter because the flood of slop pissed people off.

Keep seething, AI pajeets. Your shit will never create anything of value. Learn to draw and 3D model or fuck off.

>>514189610
>South Asia
Not a real place

>>514194926
Pepe made by ai ironic that those filters don’t wrok

>>514188625
>jeets and South asians
Are there any other South Asian significant migrant populations?

>>514191523
Ai is my fucking DADDY, nigga!!

Fuck ai slop, i'll dispose of technolgy forever before using it.

ITT Marxians
lmao

>>514194913
Agreed.

>>514188036
You'll get bored of what it comes up with eventually, you don't notice the small repeating patters at first but when you do it's all you can hear. It's built on an entire library of jewsic

>>514187349 (OP)
It's a tool. And for some types of "art," it is the end. Digital artists, illustrators, etc., bye-bye. Git gud.

>>514187349 (OP)
So how many AI art pieces have you bought? How many AI games? Have you paid for AI movie?
No? Why not?

>>514197342
Many movies are written by AI now. Probably the next gen of AAA games will use AI code and assets.

"AI" will have some value when it can ASSIST you in creating stuff. As long as it shits out its own slop and call it a day, it's absolutely worth shit.

>>514197090
you can easily recognize "AI music" because it sounds good on the first listen and absolute shit on the second one. disposable slop that can only be used once.

>>514195360
>PEPE made by ai
thats the point, i forgot to mention AI is decent at making low effort memes, but its never gonna be like the man made stuff.
example: pajeet toilet AI images, those were pretty funny

>>514187349 (OP)
>skilled artist
>paints stilleben
anon, i dont know what to tell you, but i will tell you this. in the art community these stilleben donkeys are the worst artists of them all.
>b bu but he put a banana on the wall and called it art
trumps stilleben still

>hitlers stilleben and illustrations
none of you has any fucking clue about art, just like hitler.

>>514189618
get off my lawn

>>514187349 (OP)
For the most part.
Humans still need to give directive and anytime a new creation is created it won't be by an ai. Ai only takes whats already been established. Its not stealing either because nobody owns anything. You can all share. Thank you for contributing to the index of art but now it's time to get a real job.