Thread 514190482

thanks obama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg3_EzO26dQ

>>514190482 (OP)
good. they should grow something else or give the land over to someone who will

>>514190740
They will just switch back to corn and wheat. Redneck faggots refuse to grow anything other than goyslop

>>514190822
our previous policy was to subsidize basedbeans for export. that was a stupid policy and it is now being rectified. who cares if some guy somewhere loses some money.

>>514190482 (OP)
lmao, fuck my family. I was paid by a coop to larp as an environmentalist and protest Brazilian farmers reclaiming land for farming. Should have given me more while I was in school dad. Hope the Chinks wipe farm country out.

>>514190482 (OP)
good, now go for the corn farmers for ruining ethanol.

You'd have to be pretty dumb to be heavily invested in basedbeans since Trump's first term.
Any way about it, farmings a pretty rough gig. It's so efficient now with scale and tech that you need at least 640acres to be in it full time and profitable. We are a food exporter and without global markets, we produce far to much for our own economy to absorb. Weirdly, we actually need less farmers. And that's before we automate the mexicans.

>>514191081
we have plenty of markets just not for this product. this means you change the product.

>>514191242
Lol, to what? Do you have any idea what crop prices are like right now? Corn currently has a profit margin of 10% per hectare. Not a lot of room for fucking up or weather. All the grass seed guys just finished harvesting 25' crop and just started selling the 24' years. 23' finally finished selling about six weeks ago. They're literally a year behind. Nut prices are about 20% profit margin on average right now, which again, pretty tight. Spin up time on an orchard is 8 years. Switching what grass you grow is 3.
What would you like these farmers to grow to remain profitable?

>>514190482 (OP)
I love the way they think this is temporary. Its a national security issue for China and all tariffs did was make them think about being over-dependent. The good times are never coming back. Probably just sell your farm for whatever you can get and enjoy your DOGE checks and zero income taxes especially now medication prices are down 1400%.

>>514191242
Maybe they can grow robots and oil filters.

>>514191485
Livestock feed

>>514190482 (OP)
get back to growing sugar beets to get kosher coke nationwide, stupid fucking goy

>>514190482 (OP)
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FUCK THOSE DEMOCRATS

>>514190482 (OP)
they can grow other shit. cannabis is a growing industry

>>514191664
agriculture is one of the most important 'industries' in the world. For example, your shitty island imports like 30% of its food. You would starve if not for the excess production of places like our farms.

The good thing about agriculture is you can switch the product quickly, often in a single year.

>>514191681
That might work, of they ramped up the tariffs on south America.
Do you even have a clue how your food happens?

>>514191015

You’ll care when they don’t show up for Republicans next year in the midterms. You’ll care very much when Trump loses the house and senate and his presidency is virtually over

And it’s now too late to stop it. Momentum will carry the economy to its new lows even if Trump, Bessent and Ludnick reversed everything tomorrow

>>514191052
>and protest Brazilian farmers reclaiming land for farming
The Amazon is way more important than some shitty land farm tho. It has plants that could potentially grant immortality

>>514191485
>to remain profitable
not necessary on an annual basis. the way this is usually accomplished is you restrict imports of certain foods that you can produce domestically. then you have this excess land produce that product. USA imports huge quantities of many things that it can grow, but instead it made the policy of growing huge monoculture crops like sybeans for export markets. The enormous profits in the last 15 years for that will cover their future lower margins growing food people actually want.

>>514191942
>You’ll care when they don’t show up for Republicans next year in the midterms.
nigger i don't vote and am not a Republican. Trump's presidency is already over after he lied about israel/iran.

>>514191966
>Argentina scared of an even more powerful Brazil
It's going to be okay sweetie.

>>514192021
If you lose money on your farm for more than three out of five years, you lose your tax status as a working farm. It puts your water rights in jeopardy as well.
Does your calculations take the higher tax bill, no water, and growing for the good of the people into consideration about how these farmers are to stay in business?

>>514191015
Corn is extremely subsidized as well and that's what lead to the proliferation of corn syrup. Farmers in genera are subsidized by the government, really, which is why it's funny that they pretend to be some free-spirited "KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY BUSINESS" types publicly.

>>514192246
>Corporate farms take up 80%+ of subsidies
>All farmers are communists
Quite the leap of logic.

>>514192207
It's their job to manage their business, which they should have some expertise in. If the only way they can make money is growing sybeans for export to China then their land/business isn't profitable and should close down.

>>514192246
they shouldn't grow corn there is already too much

>>514190482 (OP)
hell yeah, fuck onions

>>514192207
Do you think any single one of these faggots actually knows or understands the issues they bitch and moan about? It's just sensationalism and impotent seething. All half baked knowledge and full arrogance

>>514192337
the issue is that we have problems with our agriculture policy. addressing that and changing how we do agriculture is good. it doesn't matter if a few people lose money.

>>514192434
we know quite a bit about it. Take India for example, - your farmers are protected via all kinds of schemes and it's still a huge problem and rice farmers neck themselves daily. This is because of global trade rules.

Increasing barriers on import/export of food is generally a good thing. The globalized food marketplace concept was always bad policy that primarily benefitted corporate interests.

>>514192416
>>514192456
This is why I have no sympathy for white collar jobs getting wiped out by shitty chat bots.
Family farms are a backbone of not just the American economy in the form of small businesses but national security. Did covid not teach you anything? 70% of your grocery store is from one of three companies. If any disruptions happen on a global scale, you face potential starvation. Egg prices are still triple what they should be because of a literally made up bird flu by the Biden administration almost a year ago.
This isn't a free market issue. This isn't a letting bad businesses fail issue. This is a matter of not starving to death. A matter of national security.
The last thing you want is the people who produce your food to be in financial trouble. I doubt you're capable of understanding this since you have a bullshit job that doesn't actually produce physical goods.

>>514192861
>family farms
shut up, faggot, we all know the breakdown. family farms aren't the ones growing metric tons of sybean for export to china. if they are, they are big rich corporate families who drive a nicer truck than me. I don't care, grow apples, nigga.

>>514191242
Based beans can be processed to be used in many products like plastic and some chemicals

>>514190482 (OP)
I don’t know a single person he eats basedbeans. Not a one.

Onions has a terrible stigma for being the bean of boys who are weak and frail. Nobody wants to be caught dead with it.

>>514192933
We should have domestic production capability of all goods needed for national security. Full stop. No compromise. I don't care if that means the feds have to pay coal miners and foundry men to stand by half the year. I don't care if that means farm subsidies for family farms. In the world america made we have enemies. Enemies that somewhat rightfully want us dead. Not all of us are dumb enough to rely on China for our well-being when they are self proclaimed geopolitical rivals.
Have fun starving. Don't ask me for a handout when it happens, I'll be to busy keeping my family alive to care about people who so eagerly sold us to a foreign power.

>>514190482 (OP)
GROW SOMETHING AMERICAN LIKE HAMBURGERS

>>514192416
It is such a jewish way to look at your country food supply as a "business". Death to America and their cancerous way of thinking

>>514192246
Agricultural is subsidized because if it wasn’t we could all starve you dumb nigger

>>514190482 (OP)
now replace the farms with hemp