Thread 514222392

>>514222392 (OP)
It won’t.

Dubai implodes and countries with a large landmass start making biofuel.
Green energy is a pointless meme.

>>514222392 (OP)
It never will. God made oil infinite

>>514222392 (OP)
burgers start dying off

>>514222433
>>514222482
based

>>514222392 (OP)
Build nuclear reactors, turn water into hydrogen and oxygen, and burn the hydrogen with charcoal made from Miscanthus × giganteus to make oil

>>514222392 (OP)
that's the neat thing: it doesn't

>>514222461
The only real problem with renewables is their intermittency. Nuclear is the solution to the intermittency problem but leftys hate it.

You will walk to your job picking apples

Or you could go with the Fischer–Tropsch process. That's what Germany did during the war and the embargo.

>>514222392 (OP)
We will have to find other ways to make all of the solvents, plastics, and medicines, etc... that require byproducts of oil refinement, or either find new ways to live without those things

We turn all jews into coal and use to power everything.

moving goods around becomes prohibitively expensive, the end of urbanization and globalization

>>514222392 (OP)
Oil is made by the earth it is not a product of liquified lizards.

>>514222548
You can store other oil just as easily. Sure, nuclear can power cities but you still need energy-dense oil for other things like transportation. Electric is a meme because batteries are non-sustainable.

>>514222392 (OP)
water can run cars. they killed the dude who found the secret for it.

>>514222697
Batteries can work but theyre currently only about half as energy dense as they need to be which is why theyre better than gas now in some applications but useless in others. Only 1/3 of the energy in gasoline is actually moving the car, the rest is wasted as heat so batteries only need to be 1/3 as energy dense to compete.

Billions starve to death as civilization collapses. There is no replacing oil without completely retrofitting our infrastructure. Ironically, there is not enough oil left to do so.

The plandemic was necessary to cull the herd, which is why everyone signed off on it. We shall see if enough useful idiots in the 1st world (highest oil usage per capita) took the bait.

>>514222392 (OP)
It probably never will. The rumor that oil is running out was spread by the oil industry since the very beginning of it. It's just a way of elevating prices for the entire economy. They use oil to also mass produce the pharmakea they call medications. It is not gonna be even an inch closer to running out until the very last day.

>>514222392 (OP)
>what happens when oil runs out?

trucks and farm equipment stop running and we die

>>514224438
>It probably never will.

it already is

>>514222658
>Oil is made by the earth it is not a product of liquified lizards.

its a product of liquified plankton

>>514224438
Ask yourself why one of the most oil rich countries on the planet would be currently building a car free, oil independent urban framework (The Line) if they thought their oil was in infinite supply.

>>514222392 (OP)
it's never running out, retard

>>514225566
>why are modern slavers creating an extensive all encompassing slave infrastructure
Big think time.

>>514222392 (OP)
malthusians are always wrong

>>514222392 (OP)
Oil companies can no longer pay to suppress the competition.

>>514222604
FT Synthesis powered by a landfill and a thorium reactor? Priceless.

>>514222392 (OP)
no one currently alive on the planet would have to worry about it.

>>514222392 (OP)
The oil will kill us long before it runs out.

>>514222392 (OP)
Oilseeds and diesel. Gates knows.

The browns die

>>514222392 (OP)
It's not even close. But theoretically you'd either have to burn more coal, or take the intelligent solution and go nuclear.

>>514222392 (OP)

the world will be polluted by broken propellers and people will be subsisting on shit and piss.

>>514226138
>It's not even close
Isn't it? I haven't followed it in a while. How many barrels do they need to produce 100 barrels these days?

>>514222392 (OP)
People dig up landfills to harvest old plastics and burn them for heat like they live in Afghanistan's mountains. All remaining virgin stock will be used for specialty products like epoxy, makeup and other high value stuff. Because transportation costs will skyrocket and there's no asphalt being made from three distillation towers' leftover bitumen, all roads will turn into muddy paths. Sheep herders and cotton farms will see a boom because there's no more polyester clothing. Wars will be continental in nature because there's no fuel for jets or ships and supply trains will rely on trains and donkeys again.

>>514226275
There are massive untapped reserves everywhere.

>>514226334
>There are massive untapped reserves everywhere.

oh sure there are sweaty. name a location.

>>514225994
>The oil will kill us long before it runs out.

we will be dead in about 3 weeks once we cant run farm equipment and trucks.

>>514226284
>People dig up landfills to harvest old plastics and burn them for heat like they live in Afghanistan's mountains.

But there will be no food. They'll just die.

>>514226334
When they started, the oil literally seeped out of the ground on its own. The deeper they had to go, the more energy they needed to extract it.

>>514226410
The arctic, alaska, the Gulf of america, Venezuela. Literal trillions of barrels you dysgenic hobgoblin.

>>514226552
People will probably have to accept shrinkage. Many fields will probably be used to grow fuel.

>>514225734
Peak oil is the cause of all current global conflict. Israel is going for Iran's oil. Russia is moving in on Ukraine and Arctic O&G. Everything is a cover story for the real reason. OIL. The EROI of oil is unassailable. To replace the energy output of oil with any other source would require more oil than is currently left. The Plandemic was an excuse to mass implement everything meant to curtail oil consumption. From the mass vax poisoning of oil dependent populations to WFH and taking education to the internet and out of resource wasting commutes and buildings.

This genocidal and psychopathic power grab was fully justified in the eyes of those who knew they had no other choice. Saudi Arabia, ironically enough, is the only country with a plan that faces the reality of our global predicament without massive offensive military conquest of resources.

>>514222392 (OP)
>runs out
It won't because it will just get more and more expensive forcing people to use alternatives.

>>514222548
>>514222697
Hey retards, "nuclear" isn't a noun. It's an adjective. That means it needs a NOUN to go with it. Here's your "English for retarded ESL niggers" lesson of the day! Instead of saying "nuclear," say "nuclear energy."

>>514226275
the only thing keeping oil from being practically worthless from over supply is oil companies.

>>514226946
The market sees it differently. Saudi aramco is a slow seller.

>>514222433
This. It's expensive, but we can synthesize it from seawater if we have to.

>>514227145
>we can synthesize it from seawater if we have to
How much energy does this process require?

>>514226647
>The arctic, alaska, the Gulf of america, Venezuela. Literal trillions of barrels you dysgenic hobgoblin.

already been explored and drilled to buggery you dumb fuck.

>>514222392 (OP)
Nowadays governments are pushing for the electric powered engines but we have hydrogen and bio diesel as alternatives too, the best option for The West is ofc biodiesel, green plant based fuel that you can make from any shitty crop and runs in the engines that we know how to develop, electric is pushed mostly by the Chinese and it is dirtier.

>>514226694
>Many fields will probably be used to grow fuel.

Forget that.

>>514226946
The planet consumes millions of barrels a day. The only conspiracy related to oil price is that it's being suppressed and actively arbitraged via geopolitical machinations in order to maintain the feasibility of modern society.

>>514227348
>the best option for The West is ofc biodiesel, green plant based fuel that you can make from any shitty crop

good luck with that you fool

>>514227419
>>514227458
Give one argument against it or shut up.

>>514226924
Google zero-deviation nominalization, halfwit. Very embarrassing that an ESL has to teach you grammar.

>>514225760
This.

>>514222392 (OP)
You pillage It, thats your mastery

>>514222392 (OP)
AI will kill us all first. The easiest way to reduce the amount of man made carbon emissions is to reduce the number of men.

>>514227458
Good luck with what? it is a renewable energy that we can use now and it depends on the crops, ofc the oil producers killed it lowering the prices but in a time of scarcity it is the best alternative compared with to find rare earths and to develop a new fancy alternative made in China.

>>514222516
lol...

invade a new country

>>514222392 (OP)
USD hegemony is over.

>>514226698
Not allowing women to drive. Thus reducing oil consumption by half and reducing accidents thus less cars needed to produce. Based.

>>514222697
You can use hydrogen.

The world needs diesel to feed tractors and oil derived fertilizers to feed crops. Take these two inputs out of the equation and the human carrying capacity of the planet tops out at half a billion people. Solar wont fertilize fields. Neither will nuclear fission or even fusion. There is no way out aside from mass depopulation. Musk's ambition to colonize other planets makes perfect sense when this is taken into account.

>>514222392 (OP)
the oil never runs dry so long as there's jewish suffering

>>514227742
*derivation
Yes, that is a thing that exists, but that isn't justifying using "nuclear" as a noun. Historically, it's never been nominalized except by the uneducated. The only dictionary that might possibly recognize "nuclear" as a noun would be Webster, who now recognizes words such as "tebowing" and "lol" and "glamping".

>>514222433
fpbp/bread

>>514228154
>Good luck with what? it is a renewable energy that we can use now and it depends on the crops

You don't understand this, go and play with your toys.

>>514222461
I'm pretty sure oil is a renewable resource at this point.

Who tf did the math on oil being made of the very limited fossil sources underground? That idea doesn't even resist scrutiny, wth

Dried Oil wells keep refilling and no one is sure why

Retards thinking oil cannot run out never present a cohesive reason why that is the case.
>okay so theres these unlimited oil wells that work of magic they will never run out
Whenever I try to grasp how it is possible that we haven't ran out of oil yet anyway my head spinns. We cannot be that far off anymore.

>>514227523
>Give one argument against it or shut up.

do the math. it doesnt remotely work. do you have any idea of the absolutely colossal amount of oil we use every single day versus how little we could produce from growing crops?

>>514228896
>Dried Oil wells keep refilling and no one is sure why

no they don't.

>>514228915
>Whenever I try to grasp how it is possible that we haven't ran out of oil yet anyway my head spinns. We cannot be that far off anymore.

we're already in serious trouble, that's why the world is destabilising. it's not just oil, coal is perhaps even more of an issue and it's essential.

>>514222392 (OP)
Right-wing subhumans bought by kikes and corporations discover nuclear and left-wing subhumans bought by kikes and greens also discover nuclear. The future is nuclear, not renewables nor oil and gas

>>514229046
>The future is nuclear,

nope. nuclear power can be viewed as an accessory of a fossul fuel powered economy, just like wind turbines and solar panels. it can't exist on its own.

>>514228919
So you're saying we had to stop importing shitskins, waging wars, flying halfway around the world, and consuming crap? A nightmare scenario.

>>514222392 (OP)
Either we have fusion reactors all over the world or we suffer a bronze age collapse.
All the money go to wind and solar, so we won't have fusion reactors.

>>514222392 (OP)
I won't live to see it happen. No one living today will see it happen.

There are already plenty of alternatives to oil, we just don't use them because oil is cheaper. If oil runs out, we'll have to switch to the more expensive alternatives.Oil is the largest cost for the supply chain for everything, notice how when the price of oil goes up, the price of everything else goes up to. Switching to the more expensive alternatives will cause a large increase in prices of everything.

>>514228896
They just drill deeper, or more common, drill elsewhere or use fracking.
In the case of OPEC countries it's very simple, they keep the supply low so the price can be as high as possible so they can milk what they have left for maximum price.
There are still enough reserves for at least half a century, but after that the power balance will shift completely.

>>514229143
But it can. You produce more than what you need at the peak of consumption and use the excess of energy to create hydrogen to power the cars.
What is the problem? The initial investment?
Have you seen what we are wasting on greens?

>>514225566
>oil independent urban framework
you're so fucking retarded, oil countries entire electric grids are powered by oil power plants.

>>514229394
>But it can. You produce more than what you need at the peak of consumption and use the excess of energy to create hydrogen to power the cars.

you just don't understand this. not worth talking to you.

>>514222548
>he doesnt know oil is a renewable resource
This is a good litmus test for how new to 4chan you are as this is fairly common knowledge among board regulars at this point

There is no escaping the brutal reality of increasing oil scarcity which arguably is the leading cause of inflation. Sure, there are money printing communists and bolshevik grifters all the way down the chain of control but you can reliably predict the decline of civilization by simply following the decline of global oil supply. The peak was in 2008 and it's all just a controlled descent into chaos from here on out. Your mission, survive.

>>514229399
>you're so fucking retarded, oil countries entire electric grids are powered by oil power plants.

yeah they have some plants like that but also use a lot of local gas for power.

>>514229456
>This is a good litmus test for how new to 4chan you are as this is fairly common knowledge among board regulars at this point

the facts are completely against you on this stupid theory since oilfields decline in production all over the world.

>>514222392 (OP)
What happens when oil runs out? Stupid question.

The better question is what will all the idiots (like Canada) think when oil gets replaced and they were too stupid to sell their and make some money while it was still valuable.

>>514229394
Nuclear power requires extreme cross-subsidies. Study the energy situation in your country, and you'll see why this doesn't work.

>>514228455
>oil derived fertilizers
Not that I know much about the chemistry but I thought the nitrogen fixing was the important part. Are fertilizers really derived from oil?

>>514222392 (OP)
What happens when the sun wont rise?

>>514222392 (OP)
Oil is not ever going to run out. It is a naturally occurring resource. The idea of "fossil fuels" and a finite supply was put in place to create a false scarcity and increase the price.

>>514229454
I just explained to you how it could work. Sun and wind only produce what it can when it can. wind can go off for weeks. Solar is shit in winter. That's why you can't rely on it.
Fusion, or even fission, you can. It's cheaper than all other energies, fission can keep going on for centuries, fusion for a hundred thousand years.

>>514222392 (OP)
Solar power and battery technologies have advanced a lot. Soon most houses, cars and stuff will mostly run on solar power and only use oil for emergencies and other critical situations.

>>514229664
>Are fertilizers really derived from oil?

ammonia fertiliser is produced from natural gas. without it we would be dead.

>>514228896
oil can be renewable but that doesn't mean it won't take hundreds of thousands of years to restore.

NGL you guys know I'm no hippy but we need to perfect and streamline our SOLar tech. The gift of light is given freely and reliably from SOL, it's up to us to take advantage of it. Obviously there are hurdles BUT it's also a limitless source of free daily energy. That might not be EVERYTHING but it could the be the bedrock backup of something.

Praise SOL

>>514229656
Yeah? The only use we have for other energies is to balance the grid. If we use hydrogen production to regulate the network by having a consumption that we can pilot, instead of relying on energies easy to switch on and off, we can balance the network.

We don't need other energies if we balance the grid this way.

>>514222392 (OP)
i think if that happens we move to other sources of energy instead of oil

>>514229713
>Oil is not ever going to run out. It is a naturally occurring resource

economically extractable oil is already running out. most oil will stay in the ground.

>>514229806
I am 40 year old and I eared the exact same words when I was 10. How is it going?

Consider the following: there is a limited supply of rare earths which mean that there is a limited number of solar panels that we can build.

>>514222392 (OP)
We drill in america and sell it arabs.

>>514229946
>i think if that happens we move to other sources of energy instead of oil

name one.

>>514230107
>We drill in america and sell it arabs.

but you're a net oil importer because fracked oil is no good for the two primary oil products, diesel and jet fuel.

>>514229766
>Fusion
60 more years.
>>514229924
50% of your nuclear power plants are always shut down for maintenance, and blackouts threaten every summer. Costs are exploding and can only be financed by selling energy stability to germany and the uk.

>>514230386
It just so happen that 60 years is the lifespawn of a fission reactor. We can build EPR and AP1000 right now and we have free, safe, carbon free energy until the fusion reactors are here.
We have already lost 40 years because no one want to study it, and we are going to loose the other 60 years we still have before oil run dry.

>>514230386
5% of our reactors are. Gravelines had to shut down because of a jellyfish problem but it's back on.

>>514227458
It would work, you can turn any plant matter into alcohol and then turn that into gasoline. The Model T was actually designed to do this from the factory.

>>514230744
>It would work, you can turn any plant matter into alcohol and then turn that into gasoline.

You are mentally a child. Not worth engaging with.

>>514230032
And those rare earths all require massive amounts of oil to extract. We are at the endgame. Modern society has literally paved itself into a a corner. We could use the rest of our oil to build out an oil free infrastructure and then billions still starve to death. Who is responsible is no longer important. Even those with the foresight to plan ahead and live off the grid will be overrun by the hungry hordes. This is why the billionaires are building bunkers.

>>514230854
You dont even need to grow crops, grass clippings and weeds will do. Sneed oil can run diesel engines and you only need a press to make that.

>>514222392 (OP)
Coal gasification

>>514230854
>he hasn’t heard of fungus

I thought britcucks were well educated
I guess you are a paki

>>514230682
>As of early September 2022, 32 of France's 56 nuclear reactors were shut down due to maintenance or technical problems.
>In 2022, Europe's driest summer in 500 years had serious consequences for power plant cooling systems, as the drought reduced the amount of river water available for cooling.
But then your situation improved dramatically. Where did the money come from to make that possible?

>>514222392 (OP)
COAL

>>514231184
>COAL
Truth. Bongs and krauts have tons they dont want mine at the moment.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vJnbAUAD2qk&pp=ygURb2lsIGluIGFudGFyY3RpY2E%3D
Lol. There's still enough in Saudi Arabia to last anchor 1000 years. Still a lot in the golf and Greenland. Plus
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hu_R3gp84TY&pp=ygUWb2lsIGlzIG5vdCBmb3NzaWwgZnVlbA%3D%3D

>>514222392 (OP)
we will take all the labubus and convert them back into oil so the world has another 120 years of oil to contemplate on how to oil scarcity

>>514222392 (OP)
Oil isnt real. Its a lie made by the jews for a variety of reasons. Think about it, many here are convinced that the USA covertly goes to war for a black substance found deep underground on the other side of the world. Get real. Its just another cover for Israels war. There is no mention of oil before Israel was made, all else is rewritten history after ww2. Check old photocopies of medieval books, oil is never mentioned. Get oilpilled.

>>514222697
>batteries are non-sustainable.
97% of car batteries in california arecycled.,
,,melt lead,plastic and reform., electolize fluid pulling lead back out., New batterie.
,,,first electricars ran on Edison batts,, working today 100 years later.

>>514231167
>2022
Damn, that's old. Do you know why so many of them were down? Because EDF knew that they had a corrosion problem and tried to hide it. When the glowies found it, they forced EDF to inspect every primary loop of every reactor and they were present when they did, and then they prevented them from starting the reactors before it was fixed.

That's one issue, and caused by human action.

>>514222392 (OP)
Go nuclear or go to hunter-gather society.
Those are the only two options.

>>514229664
No, they are made from natural gas which is actually more abundant than oil
>>514229143
wind turbines have been around for thousands of years. All we do now is connect it to a ball of copper wire spinning between two magnets. They had both before oil was discovered too
>>514229039
Coal is actually way more abundant than oil and its the easiest fossil fuel to replace since its only used for making steel and generating electricity.
>>514231445
edison batteries are neat. The secret to their longevity is the noncorrosive electrolyte they use. The only issue is the energy density is even worse than lead acid but for stationary applications that doesnt matter

>>514222392 (OP)
You have no idea how enormous the mantle of the earth is and how little human civilization actually occupies in terms of mass, Oil won't run out even after we find more efficient ways of fueling.

>>514231699
>Coal is actually way more abundant than oil and its the easiest fossil fuel to replace since its only used for making steel and generating electricity.

do you understand how important those two things are? of course you dont. how is virgin steel production going there in the US? it's at essentially zero tons here in the UK.

>>514231782
>You have no idea how enormous the mantle of the earth is and how little human civilization actually occupies in terms of mass, Oil won't run out even after we find more efficient ways of fueling

You're a halfwit.

>>514222392 (OP)
Oil isn't made from dinosaurs you idiot, it's produced naturally by the earth.

>>514231947
>Oil isn't made from dinosaurs you idiot, it's produced naturally by the earth.

its produced from plankton.

>>514231699
>wind turbines
I still think they're causing global terrestrial stilling. Texas and Germany have experienced quite a bit of "climate change" since they started operating so many wind turbines. Besides, its electricity has little value without storage options.

>>514232038
>Besides, its electricity has little value without storage options.

Thats correct, it's practically worthless.

>>514229872
Except processes like bio fuel don't take millions of years.

It is more likely that oil reserves have remained 'saturated' for millions of years, rather than being in production for that duration.

And the reason they are so deep, is because you need the heat, pressure, and surrounded by impermeable rock to contain it. But that doesn't mean it takes millions of years to form, all it means that the conditions are found underground sites buried millions of years ago.
By draining it, you are creating space for new oil to be formed in those sweets spots with anabolic organic matter, heat, tons of pressure and cap rocks layers to seal the reserve.

And of course this is no secret. But they call it fossil fuel so normies think it's dinosaur oil, so it's very scarce and valuable.

>>514231829
Theyre important yes but theyre also the easiest to wean off fossil fuels, same with trains. Cars and trucks are challenging but its possible, airplanes will probably keep using jet fuel for the forseeable future.
>>514232038
For electricity, the ideal solution is to use renewables with battery storage, flywheels to provide inertia during power switching and a nuclear baseload. Deep geothermal is looking extremely promising too, it could also play the baseload role.
>>514232263
Oil reserves are bullshit, maybe 10% of whats actually there. Oil will become more expensive to extract however, which will lead to it being phased out in applications where its the least necessary freeing up supply for where its most necessary.

>>514231545
The only realistic way out is either massive depopulation or a hail mary moonshot into colonizing space and extracting exo-planetary resources on a massive scale. And you can plainly see the political divide between the two strategies.

>>514232451
>battery storage
It's already completely uneconomical. And if demand increases, it will be unaffordable because production expansion is limited by resources.

Hydrocarbons are just hydrogen and carbon, if we can't make designer molecules from attotech in the next century, we NGMI.

>>514232639
The best solution is pumped storage hydropower but it would essentially require an authoritarian government to implement.

>>514232681
Today, we can even produce gold artificially. But the crucial factor is how much energy you have to put into it. If you put in more energy than the combustion will later yield, it's not productive. Which is also increasingly the problem with oil production.

>>514232639
Then why is it rapidly growing everywhere? The materials batteries are made of arent scarce, especially not the ones used in LFPs which are what grid scale batteries use. "rare earth" minerals arent actually rare, theyre extremely abundant but the ore has very low concentrations of them which is where the name comes from

>>514232821
There are only a few places suitable for it. But yes, it's one of the better storage options.

>>514232946
Depends on where the energy comes from. If its solar, wind, hydro or geothermal the energy source is inexhaustible and free, its the equipment costs that matter. Oil doesnt need to be energy postitive to make petrochemicals either. Theres a lot we can do to buy ourselves a couple more centuries.

>>514232821
>Efficiency of 50%
It's not a magical solution.

>>514233048
In a decadent society, many things grow cross-financed by still-cheap energy. But the question was, what makes sense when cheap energy disappears. And the costs of battery storage are simply extremely high. And the more expensive our energy becomes, the more our standard of living will decline.

>>514233400
It wont suddenly disappear though and it isnt a limiting factor yet.

>>514233049
It's possible to build one on flat elevation by digging down and creating the lower reservoir but it would require a lot of earth moving. Certainly not profitable in the short term but over the long term it would still be more efficient than the other options.

>>514222392 (OP)
Peak oil is the issue that plainly and and clearly explains every current trend in the world, from collapsing global birthrates and mass immigration, to every current armed conflict on the planet. The spice must flow, but the tap is going dry. Everything else is just noise created to obfuscate the truth and to keep all the plates spinning.

>>514232946
Im well aware of this.
I've seen things maybe 7 or 8 people (mainly in japan) have ever seen about phase changes and molecular recombinations at smaller than nanoscale technology techniques. Im telling you we can do this, but we must go smaller.
However, there is a severe, crushing lack of chemical engineers trying to solve this. Or perhaps a new type of engineer its just alchemy is closest to themes as it stands.
Too many kids want to be coders or wfh minimum effort jobs and not enough want to actually do theoretical yet practical physical work.

Either AI or the Chinese solve this if it does happen though and we are slaves to either or both.

>>514233213
Perhaps if you built one in your back yard using a pool pump.

>>514222392 (OP)
>what happens when oil runs out?
it won't run out.
it will be depleted, and become scarcer as the reserves are used up.
traditional market forces will make it more expensive compared to other resources.
regular consumers will likely look for alternatives, as is already happening, where possible.
eventually this planet will be devoid or resources and there are a lot of big questions facing humanity if we ever get to that stage.

>>514233212
This, too, would only be economical if the generating plants ran continuously. But with wind and solar power, these plants would often be idle or only run at half capacity, but would still generate full costs all the time. I'm not saying that something like this isn't possible, but the less economical it is, the more it lowers the standard of living.

>>514233592
For anyone who's even cared to read my posts,
Im not even larping rn im published in 2d plasmonic heat arrays and im telling you now there is hope.
Get your kids in science and "save the white race" by actually pursuing higher education to fix real problems not gay shit like decarbonization, alternative fuels and other pedestrian ways of skirting the real issue

>>514233576
No, Israel is. We are in the middle east because AIPAC pays our politicians to send our army there. Ironically the things that nobody can afford anymore(housing, education, healthcare) have the least to do with oil.
>>514233805
Most materials can be recycled, circular economies form naturally as a response to scarcity. 99% of the materials in a lead acid car battery get recycled. Energy is the hard problem to solve because you cant unburn stuff. Asteroid mining *might* work for the really rare and expensive stuff like gold and platinum.

>>514233839
Solar panels and batteries dont really have operating costs.

>>514222392 (OP)

It won't run out. Worse case scenario you could make artificial diesel fuel out of coal.

>>514234228
>Most materials can be recycled
Which often costs significantly more energy than mining the raw materials. All these inefficiencies add up. But I'll stop now.

>>514234493
we dont need to stop mining the raw materials, it doesnt have to be all or nothing

>>514234297
Sorry. I thought it was about energy to oil or energy to hydrogen plants.

>>514222392 (OP)
niggers and other shitskins will migrate back to their homelands because otherwise they would have to do real work - like whites had to do for centuries to build their society. society will fall back on some quasi 19th century with some solar and windmills here and there. but these will break down at some point to.

so the niggersgo back to their tribal shitholes living day to day, just like now in the west on oil based gibs.

>>514222392 (OP)
Oil will not "run out". Earth produces oil as it produces water.
Neither of these are finite resources, you anti-car bicycle riding nigger.
Please stop believing all the nonsense spouted by our enemies. You can be a bro, come over to my side. Embrace your manhood, learn basics of automotive maintenance and know the freedom, the sweet feels of driving down a stretch of highway in the beautiful hills or the desert.
It's not just a car, mate... it's FREEDOM.

PS,
Sorry about the "bicycle nigger" thing. I hate this gay century so much. I have anger issues. Apopolologies.

>>514229258
>Either we have fusion reactors all over the world
dont u know the "fusion contante"? its just 10 more years!

>>514222392 (OP)
It doesn't

>>514233861
No one is saying that there isn't hope. The main issue will be, as you said, having the courage to meet the challenges of this predicament. On one side you have the malevolent opportunists who are using this crisis to their own ends of global domination and on the other you have benevolent, and perhaps naive, idealists who believe that we can save our current standards of living without a massive reorganization of our societies. I predict that future civilizations, if we survive, will look back our current car-centric era as dismissively as we do at the times of slavery in the west.

>>514234822
Maybe if we researched it, we would make progress on it. The entire world give less than 10% of what Germany alone give to solar power to develop the only alternative to oil.

>>514226605
Oil still seeps out of the ocean floor in the Gulf of Mexico. It's why the Deepwater Horizons' wellhead blowout underwater oil plume disappeared so quickly: the indigenous bioeme in those waters includes microbes that eat oil.

>>514235069
Fusion has been chipped away at so maybe a breakthrough will happen but normal nuclear has a LOT of room to improve and its much easier to do

>>514234228
No one on /pol/ is oblivious to the Israel issue. But the current US geopolitical stance regarding Israel has more to do with OIL than anything else. Money printing creates inflation for sure, but the money printing serves mostly to subsidize cheap oil either directly or through funding military action and international subsidies. Most of the rent seeking parasitical forces in the housing market are just necessary strategies for maintaining 401k and boomer retirement "line go up" in the age of energy scarcity. An age we entered in 2008.

Muh Iranian Nukes are just a cover story for OIL. Same goes for Muh Venezuelan Drug Cartels.

You can reliably predict the escalation of either "issue" by looking at the depletion of oil reserves.

>>514222392 (OP)
It can't run out
It's biomuck that keeps digesting matter around it
The lie is that it's a limited commodity

>>514226924
I think there's value in the brevity that the omission provides
It's fine to omit words in informal conversation

>>514235444
Checked and keked. I didn't know about the microbes. Really interesting.
Btw I just checked. Producing 100 barrels of oil today costs 15 barrels on average. In 1920, it was one barrel.

>>514235739
We use it at a far higher rate than it replenishes
Something is unrenewable when the resource can't be replenished quickly (e.g. 100 yrs)

>>514235789
No.

>>514235692
We dont subsidize oil, The moneyprinting is primarily due to social security, foodstamps, section ape and medicare. Without them wed have massive budget surpluses every year and no inflation

>>514222392 (OP)
One thing I can tell you for sure is that it won't happen all of a sudden. We will slowly move on to alternative technologies. It's probably gonna get hard, but not impossible. Maybe it's for the best. We need some hard times here in Europe to shake off the stupidity we mistake for compassion.

>>514236121
Business fuel costs are a write off, why do you think every gas pump prints reciepts? Oil is massively subsidized by taxpayers.

>>514222392 (OP)
it literally refills

>>514236401
every business related expense is a tax writeoff. companies only pay tax on gross income.

>>514236401
That’s ridiculous. You should kill yourself for making such a stupid analogy.
Business expenses for gas sold is a fraction of a fraction of all gas sold in the US.

>>514235739
Even more retarded than the "abiotic" oil theory, and equally wrong.
You think the US invades oil-rich countries just for fun?
Or because we believe in "democracy"?

kek.

>>514236639
We do it for Israel.

>>514222392 (OP)
When current oil sources dry up and supply drops, people will have an incentive to look harder for new oil sources. Once we can't find any, the price will end up increasing. However this makes certain previously unprofitable oil sources profitable. So the whole world's oil supply gets topped up albeit at a higher oil price. Few decades pass, the sources dry up and people move onto more expensive sources.
At each price ratchet fragments of society switch away from petrol. First is cars, then boilers then maybe industrial equipment and then finally airplanes. Each price ratchet will also exacerbate inflation.
It will be a gradual decline.
Of course it all boils down to the parameters. Can companies react/predict oil shortages and exploit costlier sources in time? Will the inflation cause by the ratchets be catastrophic? Do these costlier sources exist in enough quantity and variety that we are granted that soft landing?

>>514235973
fair enough

>>514229046
>discover nuclear
Discover nuclear energy?
>>514226138
>>514231545
>go nuclear
Become small like ant-man?
>>514232451
>nuclear baseload
A really small baseload? Or perhaps a baseload at the nucleus of something else?
>Deep geothermal
Deep geothermal energy*
>>514235531
>normal nuclear
normal nuclear energy*

Learn. To. Fucking. Write.
You guys give yourself such a bad reputation with how uneducated you sound. How could anyone take you seriously when you don't even understand the difference between a NOUN and an ADJECTIVE. You would lose if your opponent was a first-grader.

>>514236507
Indeed, parking lot construction is a business write off too. The entire system is built to subsidize oil. Look at State and Federal highways. Everything is channel for printed money to flow into oil. either via the taxpayer or directly from the Fed. This is why oil is the most economically consequential commodity in this country and on the planet. Oil eclipses every other economic quotient by a massive margin. The fact that so many are oblivious to this fact just shows how effective all the political distractions really are.

>>514222461
Oil sales contribute only 1% to Dubai's overall economy. It has the world's biggest drydock and most of it's wealth is derived from wholesale/retail and logistics.

>>514222392 (OP)
limited and ending oil is a hoax and absolutely false, but youre so brainwashed, its beyond saving

>>514238319
>Muh GDP
Their sovereign energy reserves are still the lynchpin that holds the entire thing together.

>>514238535
It can end , energy is used by cars - planes ...and whatever oil you consume never comes back , it will end but the question is , how much oil do we have in earth ?

>>514222392 (OP)
It won't in our lifetime, but hopefully we develop a backup fuel source, maybe biofuels like Algae based or going full Ethanol.

Only reason we should be against green energy (at least for now) is because it can't match current conventional sources of energy and fuels, more should be put into R&D than implementation until we can make a better fuel than what we have now. We WILL have to go to alternative sustainable energy sources eventually, but we should not go into it until we can confirm it can be a suitable alternative to what we currently use.

>>514238757
Fair point. It's what made these things possible in the first place. But they have managed to successfully branch out from being a single export only emirate. Which makes them attractive to investors.

>>514222392 (OP)
We start eating eachother.

>>514228610
I do believe that you are now coping.

>>514238757
They'll just keep buying more and more assets ro diversify over time. The thing about Saudi oil is its not going to run out anytime soon. Same with every other oil rich nation.

>>514222392 (OP)
You keep spamming this thread.
Jannies keep letting it happen

>>514237741
The Fed has never been audited, so we have no idea if or how much money they print subsidizing low oil prices. So if there is a peak oil crisis then we have little to no way of knowing if it's being concealed or not besides the actions of our leaders. All of which point to real scarcity.

>>514239423
>empty response
Here. Have another empty response.

>>514222392 (OP)
Nothing

>>514222392 (OP)
never will, oil wells refill themselves fast than we can ever empty them.

>>514222433
fpbp "peak oil" was first claimed in like 1860.

>>514228232
What, like vegetable oil?

>>514239011
Can but won't. There more oil than humans can consume and is probably being renewed through some unknown process.