Thread 514224586

Is China communist or capitalist?

>>514224586 (OP)
Yes.

Socialist with a hint of fascism, and that's a good thing.

China is great. I love China and Chinese people.

it's china, it doesn't belong to the jews

it scarcely matters. what matters is living in a jew and nigger free society

>>514224586 (OP)
Who cares, they make amazing bridges

>>514224586 (OP)
Whatever Henry Kissenger shilled to mao.

>>514224586 (OP)
the only thing that matters is that they are nationalist

>>514224586 (OP)
Yesnt
"Alexa play red sun in the sky."

hopefully capitalist, but i think xi jing ping party would kill him if he announced that sooo soon to be communist. despite nearly every chink metric showing the special ecconomic zones dragging the rest of them up.

>>514224667
Their entire political identity is Jewish. Tf you talking about?

>>514224586 (OP)
language barrier is huge to understand it correctly, but the way they act/talk on forums & goytube alternatives I would say they're national socialist.

>>514224586 (OP)
"Capitalism" doesn't exist. It's a battle term coined by Communists in the 19s century. And Communist idiots still use it today.
>There was never a party with "Capitalist" in its name.

>>514224744
i have never thought this, bridges are a us thing, but there is stiff competition and us has not done a big one in nearly half a century.

>>514224916
I miss epic US bridges kind of

>>514224586 (OP)
ch*na isn't White. kill all non-whits

>>514224586 (OP)
"Market socialism with chinese characteristics"
It's just a fancy way of saying national socialism

>>514224586 (OP)
Economically fascist, socially commie

>>514224845
Is this fr? If so I'm actually gonna apply to start teaching English in China.

They enact policies like fascists, collect resources like communists and sell the finished product through capitalism

>>514224586 (OP)
fascist. It has been so for a while.

>>514224916
Right. Everyone was so excited about the Golden Gate bridge in San Francisco, but now that is a joke compared to the infrastructure in China. We need to catch up.

>>514224586 (OP)
The people live under strict communism.
The leaders are major capitalists.

>>514224586 (OP)
china is whatever the ccp says it is.

>>514224586 (OP)
Capitalist, unlike the west

>>514224586 (OP)
Dystopic.

I lived in China for six years,
it is definitely 'socialist'
in the sense that the government is in control of the economy
and not a group of capitalists.
When rich capitalists get out of line in China,
they simply disappear in some fashion.
Jack Ma made just a tiny hint at opposing the party line a couple years ago,
and his TV show was immediately cancelled (in Nov 2020).
Celebrities have it much worse,
their careers are simply over if they say the wrong thing publicly,
like even minor crap that we would think nothing of.
There are other things I could mention,
but if you want an academic source on this
I recommend China's Regulatory State by Roselyn Hsueh.
The Chinese economy simply isn't commanded by private capitalists,
and even doesn't respond to normal market forces at all.
This is most clear in the real-estate sector.
The government simply demands they keep building more and more crap,
I've taken a train across all of China,
and it is absolutely astounding how many apartment complexes are being built
in the middle of nowhere.
No capitalist would ever do this,
it is only possible to do this
because the State demands it
and doesn't care how unprofitable it is.
The Han are all unbelievably belligerent nationalists as well.
and teach it to the kids right in the schools.
Communism is just red nationalism to them,
and the gooks love it.
If someone overthrow the Communist Party tomorrow,
they'd just replace it with an even more nationalistic party
and call it the Workers' Fascist Party of China or something.

>>514224586 (OP)
neither dummy
have the means of productuon be redistributed to the proletariat classes and has the state melted awa in a communist utopia? No


Do they have an economic system in which private individuals or businesses own and operate the means of production and distribution of goods and services for profit, with minimal government ? No intervention. No

Silly question

Communists using capitalism

>>514225589
Hoi Henk. It's 'dystopian'.

>>514224586 (OP)
No one will read this or care...

Engels and marx, predicted the way to communism, was through capitalism. They predicted that capitalism had to reach max height, hyper capitalism if you will. Before its exploitative and societal effects were damaging enough to cause the people to demand more and more social reforms. As capitalism can only go up, and we live in finite space, initial socialist policies will momentarily quell uprisings and prevent complete collapse caused by capitalism. Gradually those socialist policies would creep in more and more till theyve replaced capitalist system entirely. Then you have communism. Russia (the USSR, stalin) attempted to bypass this by skipping the late stage capitalism / early socialism phases, and going straight into communism via revolution. Engels and marx could of predicted it to fail, which it inevitably did, but to many it also succeeded in a way no one thought would happen. Despite skipping maximal capitalist stages, they did surprisingly well. USSR went from third world poverty to top competitor with the worlds super power (the USA). They inevitably collapsed just as fast though. I believe China learned from Russia, and attempted a middle ground between suffering through capitalism (as engels and marx predicted) and jumping right into communism (as the USSR did). To achieve this, they opened China up to capitalism. This created their 2 system one cuntry design of Hong Kong and others. Over time they have been systematically phasing out capitalist aspects for greater communist goals. So far they experience a similar effect that the USSR did, by injecting communism it brought China from a third world to a leading competitor with the world super power (the USA) in a very short time period. The key to their success lasting will be based on if they achieved maximal capitalism to sustain a fully communist state. I predict the answer is no.

>>514224823
Same as how Armenia and Ethiopia's official religion is (((Christianity))) but that doesn't make them Jewish you retarded faggot. Vietnam and China don't bow to the Jews like the EU and America do.

China is the same as us. State capitalism.

>>514224586 (OP)
Technocratic totalitarian actually.

>>514224586 (OP)
Chang here. No matter what it is, it won't be communist. Chinese government doesn't charge you any capital gain tax (include dividen) and if you go on strike the police will beat the shit out of you.

The situation is,

> there is a market. so not Soviet style planned economy

> there are state owned companies, but these companies go public in stonk market. Government take shares in the state owned companies but individuals can also take shares

> government directly use tax money to invest in companies (industry) so you get world factory with mega ultra excess capacity and deflation. Downside is nation wide debt crisis if investment goes wrong.

> one party system so the government power is totally unchecked. CCP high officials do whatever they want. No 3 branches of governents and check balance n shit


that's it. No sure how you describe it.

But no matter what it is not communism. China probably has the biggest gap btweeen rich and poor and there is basically no social welfare.

>>514224586 (OP)
In China, the real estate bubble has burst, unemployment is high, and deflation has begun.
When Xi Jinping dies, their system of governance will end.

>>514224586 (OP)
Officially it’s socialism but with Chinese characteristics

>>514224823

Jews played a much more important role in the creation of the previous government before the PRC.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Borodin

>>514224586 (OP)
It's a yin-yang system

>>514229070
bullshit all China needs to do is start taking in migrants and refugees from Palestine and they'll be fine

let's make sure they do so they have a lot of empty real estate to fill. millions and millions of empty units.