Thread 514723717

Do you think these two people are war criminals? Both are wanted by the International Criminal Court.

>>514723717 (OP)
Yes, they are both war criminals

>>514723717 (OP)
Who isn't a war criminal in the Middle East ?

>>514723798
I thought /pol/ would say they aren't

>>514723812
My position is that Hamas's attack on Israel in 2023 was horrific and things like that shouldn't ever happen, so I understand wanting to dismantle Hamas, I think that makes sense.

But I don't think Israel's current actions in Gaza are justified, because Palestinian civilians are being bombed and starved to death. Those civilians are not to blame for what Hamas did in 2023.

>>514723717 (OP)
>these two people are war criminals
These two people are war criminals

You said so yourself.

>>514723717 (OP)
So was Bush but he threatened to invade the netherlands and arrest the ICC
the haugue ain't shit

>>514723717 (OP)
There is no crime in war. Because there are no rules in war. These two are just waging regular old normal war. Countries that adhere to any rules during killings are not waging wars.
Are they monsters? Yes. Zelensky is too.

>>514725244
I'm asking if that's an idea you would agree with

>>514725530
Yeah maybe Bush was

>>514725712
How do you think the Russian-Ukrainian conflict should be resolved?

These two people are war criminals

>>514725879
>How do you think the Russian-Ukrainian conflict should be resolved?

Fairly simple. Nobody should intervene. Nobody should send money. No trade restrictions. Just fair play. Let the blood flow until a natural border is created. This is why stable countries exist today. They were able to end their conflicts in one way or another. The entire Urkaine shit (and also the Israel shit) are the result of outside intervention.

>>514726368
So when Russia kills Ukrainian civilians with drones, and when Israel kills Palestinian civilians with bombs and starvation, that's okay in your view? If you were being bombed/starved/droned, you might have a different view.

>>514726607
>So when Russia kills Ukrainian civilians with drones, and when Israel kills Palestinian civilians with bombs and starvation, that's okay in your view?
It's a completely normal war horror yes.
>If you were being bombed/starved/droned
I would desert to the stronger side asap. Or run to a different country altogether.

>>514723717 (OP)
Thats not George Bush and Dick Cheney
Think you are mixed up

>>514726607
It was Zelensky who cluster bombed a beach on a christian holiday and killed 2 babies playing in the sand

>>514726826
>It's a completely normal war horror yes.
There are lots of things that have happened many times (like murder) but they are nonetheless undesirable, surely.
>I would desert to the stronger side asap. Or run to a different country altogether.
Running can work. I don't think people in Gaza can run though. I think Gaza is basically blockaded on all sides - the border with Israel, the border with Egypt, and the sea.

>>514726904
Bush may also have been a war criminal

>>514727013
I think you're referring to the time when Russian air defences caused a Ukrainian missile to change its flight path; the Russian air defences blew up the missile over a beach, which caused debris to fall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2024_Sevastopol_missile_attack

Of course this situation would never have happened if Russia had never invaded Crimea. Ukraine is legitimately attacking Russian military targets within parts of Ukraine (such as Crimea) which Russia has invaded.

>>514723717 (OP)
>War Criminals?
Under what article is Putin being tried, remind me? Oh yes, genocide, of course. According to the ICC, moving Ukrainian children abandoned by their parents from the ruins to the elite Crimean camp Artek, with five meals a day and the best teachers and doctors from all over Russia, is genocide. I would like to remind you that Crimea is considered by European states to be part of Ukraine, so in fact there was no “abduction.” Meanwhile, Zelensky is abducting Russian children to Ukraine, but the ICC remains silent. They exchanged almost all of them for their prisoners. But the ICC remains silent.

Europeans cannot judge anyone because they have completely discredited themselves and their institutions.

>>514727557
>they are nonetheless undesirable, surely.
They are necessary to form stable borders. Look at all the african hell holes. They too exist because of outside intervention. They had stable borders before new, nonsensical borders where imposed on them.
> I don't think people in Gaza can run though.
The jews offered them time and time again to integrade into the jewish kingdom, they didn't. They fought for their ideals with outside help and this is now the result of this silly behavior. And it will keep going until the money flow stops.

>>514727557
>Of course this situation would never have happened if Russia had never invaded Crimea.
None of this would have happened if the British and their American friends had stayed at home and dealt with their own problems, rather than acting like a world dominon, interfering in the internal politics of other countries and staging coups there.

>>514727557
Fuck off Troon shill. They could have bombed the base at night when the beach wasnt packed with families.

>>514728196
Whats funny is ukraine could only produce the names of 320 children.

>>514723717 (OP)
They are both bums and should be killed. Along with zelinsky. Here is some of the cost the cost of the continued failed attempt to take Pokrovsk.
https://files.catbox.moe/abdadl.mp4
One of the worst roads of death I've seen, even for the russians.
>just a sample of what that PR stunt towards Pokrovsk cost russia.

>>514723717 (OP)
and both came from Siberia, and both are communists

>>514723812
Russia sells arms to Middle east and niggers in Africa, Pissrael wage war against muslims and send the arms back to Russia to be re-sold.. both win...

Pissrael is just a state created by communist jews from Russia

>>514727557
Ukraine is a criminal enterprise coopted by CIA and MI6. Parubiy who was organizing the Maidan snipers in 2014 rightly got murdered the other day. The rest of scum will get the same treatment. Then the anglo-western colonial criminals will be next.

>>514723717 (OP)
nah, you have to be a nigger to be criminal

>>514723717 (OP)
where are the videos of Putin bombing thousands of children like bibi and trump are? is Putin a pedophile child trafficker like them too?

>>514730033
>Putin a pedophile child trafficker like them too?
considering he's a jew probably yes

>>514730033
I saw those kids dancing in the street when they dragged dead jews through the streets.
The're not dancing now....

>>514728196
Yeah I think Russia is kidnapping Ukrainian children and indoctrinating them with Russian propaganda. And Russia is murdering Ukrainian civilians with drones, missiles, shells, and bullets (e.g. Bucha massacre). And Russia has been illegally invading Ukraine for years (Crimea, the Donbas, etc).

>>514728524
>The jews offered them time and time again to integrade into the jewish kingdom, they didn't. They fought for their ideals with outside help and this is now the result of this silly behavior. And it will keep going until the money flow stops.
If Israel gets to be a state then why can't Palestine be a state? To say that only one of them is allowed to be a state doesn't make sense. What's the basis for that?

>>514728732
>interfering in the internal politics of other countries
That's what Russia is doing. Russia invaded Ukraine and is seeking to overthrow the democratically elected government of Ukraine. Russia meanwhile doesn't have democracy because elections in Russia are rigged.

>coups
Yanukovych fled Ukraine and then the Ukrainian government legally removed him from power. It's a bit like Congress impeaching Trump (though he wasn't removed from office). In democratic countries, there are situations where it is legal for the legislature to remove the head of state from power. I understand that democracy is alien to you though.

>>514724379
>I thought /pol/ would say they aren't
Go back tourist.

Putin isn't because Russians were attacked first. I think Israel funds Hamas so they have a reason to kill Palestinians and take their land so it is definitely a crime.

>>514723717 (OP)
The ICC is toothless and obsolete like everything UN related. They will never face "consequences" for anything. The UN is a worthless home for semi-retired politicians to get paid after their political capital is spent in their home country.

>>514726368
The propaganda psyop Russians did where they said they were killing Nazis said it all. It's really just scripted. Putin doesn't care about Ukrainian blood. He cares about Russia. He got bored and afraid of death and he and Zelenskyy set up a death match. It goes no deeper than that. It's to start killing off large parts of the population. All of this is acknowledged beforehand. If it goes on, millions will be killed or sent to Western countries, like the women. The Jews win, Russia wins while making it look like a war. It's all theater. If NATO joins, they go to their deaths also while migrants pour in to replace the natives.

There is no solution. That is why Trump could do nothing.

>>514730228
> Russia is kidnapping Ukrainian children
Zero proof, they cant even produce more than 320 names. The only source is Zelensky says so. They found orphans starving in a war zone because they were intentionally left behind by ukraine hoping for gore vids

>>514729046
Yes, they are all here, enjoying the beautiful sea view that no one will take away from them. Six of them were adopted by Maria Lvova-Belova, a Russian official responsible for protecting children's rights in Russia. She is a very wealthy, influential, and altruistic woman, which is why she is wanted by the ICC on the same grounds as Putin.

The picture shows a terrible crime committed by Putin.

>>514729281
The invasion of Ukraine is of course terrible. Putin decided to invade Ukraine and unleash all this violence. Many Ukrainians have died, and many Russians have died too. Putin's megalomania is responsible for this.

>>514729385
>Ukraine is a criminal enterprise coopted by CIA and MI6
Prove it. Prove that the CIA and MI6 are directing the Ukrainian government.

>>514730033
Russia has killed many Ukrainian civilians with drones, missiles, shells, and bullets (e.g. Bucha massacre). Drones and missiles are being used a lot on civilian Ukrainian buildings at the moment.

>>514730379
Russia invaded Ukraine first. Ukraine only entered Russia (Kursk) long after Russia had been attacking and invading Ukraine.

>>514730624
It is certainly a shame that international law is not being enforced. The person best placed to rectify this is the president of the US, but Trump doesn't seem very willing to support international law, even just verbally.

>>514723717 (OP)
I think they're all Team Jew scumbags playing their role in White Goy Genocide.

>>514731073
Trump is the type of guy who looks tough and strong but he doesn't stand by his convictions. He speaks a lot in strong ways and when opposition comes along that's not part of the script he backpedals and distracts.

>>514731073
Sorry fag shill
Ukraine started shelling Donbas 5 days before the invasion, starting the war. 20 days after Biden took office.

Cope and seethe

>>514723717 (OP)
I’m pretty sure Putin is convicted of crimes against humanity, not war crimes. Netanyahu is both.

Trump is essentially a strong yes man. He pours out power from his mouth but he does what everyone else wants him to do. The modern populist or fascist who tries to win over every single person. He's like Bush just with a louder mouth.

>>514731574
>fascist
You dont know what that word means

>>514730228
>Russia meanwhile doesn't have democracy because elections in Russia are rigged.
>Yeah I think Russia is kidnapping Ukrainian children and indoctrinating them with Russian propaganda.

Citizen, your television tax is OVERDUE, now you will be sent to prison for missing the BBC evening edition with a report on transgender exceptionalism and the ceremonial burning of the British flag. Now repeat after me: Slava Ukraini! Heroyam Slava!

>>514731708
Archie Bunker does

>>514723717 (OP)
THEUKRAINE IS A RECOGNIZED STATE WITH SOVEREIGN BORDERS

PUTLER CAN NOT ANNEX HIS NEIGHBORS CLAY
>>UN Secretary-General António Guterres called the referendums a "violation of the UN Charter and international law".[8] Some days later he said, "The Charter is clear. Any annexation of a State's territory by another State resulting from the threat or use of force is a violation of the Principles of the UN Charter and international law.
THIS IS HOW WORLD WARS START

BY COMPARISON
BALESTINE DOES NOT EXIST AS A STATE
THEY ARE GETTING AN ANTI TERRORIST CLEARING OPERATION OF KKKHAMAS MILITANTS DUE TO THEIR OCTOBER 7TH ATTACK