Thread 514770647

National Socialism was the same as what we can call National Socialism. Capitalism was preserved but prevented from going international at the expense of the home nation of the corporations and that nation's people. So, there was a mild socialist side involving regulations and state direction of what industries need to accomplish, but private ownership of industry remained intact.
So, National Socialism was just National Capitalism. They called it National Socialism in the 1920s because that name appealed to the workers of the time. Nowadays, American workers are ideological capitalists and hate socialism, as they have been taught to do for more than a century. They are "ideological capitalists" because they are not actual capitalists with huge investments who make their fortunes off investment returns, but they do believe strongly in the capitalist system.

Which means, if we want to bring back Fascism of the National Socialist variety, we'd do well to adopt all of Hitler's policies and just rename the system "National Capitalism" for the American working class audience.
>The National Capitalist American Workers' Party, or NCAWP

>>514770647 (OP)
>National Socialism was the same as what we can call National Socialism.
*the same as what we can call National Capitalism.

>>514770647 (OP)
>but private ownership of industry remained intact.
At gun point, and Aryanized

>>514770647 (OP)

Capitalism is the base model needed to fuel socialism. Socialism builds communism. You cant skip them. Thats why USSR, cuba and the others failed and possibly China will fail the same too, though they seemed to have taken the time to develop their two system hybrid model which could possibly keep them accelerating past stagnation point and inevitable failure like the rest. You cant have capitalism without industrialization, you cant have industrialization without slavery, each step is a natural progression as a society develops.

>>514771074
>You cant have capitalism without industrialization, you cant have industrialization without slavery, each step is a natural progression as a society develops.
Yes, I know. And we can have National Capitalism now because we are in the capitalist stage of history.

>>514771235
We are very clearly in the late capitalist stage. The societal progressions happen from problem and solutions. Slavery solved the problem of needing cheap manual labor but caused the moral issues with it, then industralization solved that but later caused the poor work and living conditions, then capitalism allowed more production by more people, cars didn't require a factory walking distance, communication now allows many jobs to be remotely international, entire sectors of jobs are being replaced by AI and jeets, these are good things for capitalism, but like every phase causes new problems, obviously jeets, but also dissolving of borders and culture. Engels and marx both said that would happen in late stages of capitalism 150 years ago. Just like every other phase creates a new problem that will burden people enough to solve it, capitalism is doing that atm. This is where accelerationist come from. They believe since its inevitable, which is true imo, we should rip the bandaid off by doing everything to make the burden and strain of capitalism as great as possible to force a solution sooner. This may be necessary, idk, but it could also cause the same downsides of forcing communist phases, like USSR and the others. If you dont hve the base sufficent, it will stagnant later. The suffering of capitalism may just have to be felt without rushing it. In any case, capitalism is on its way out bro.

>>514771074
Marx plz go

>>514772042
IM NOT A MARXIST FAGGOT! Read a fucking book you retarded MIGGER!

>>514770647 (OP)
Any form of capitalism will always kill any nation that hosts it. It's literally what happened to Rome. Almost every collapse in human history appears to have been caused by economic bullshit (capitalism). Money is fake.