Thread 514777666

Wstched too many Shekelberg movies instead of reading a book?

kek it'd be a nazi world order without us satan.

>>514777666 (OP)
Japan surrendered because soviets were steamrolling Manchuria even harder than we rolled in Poland. They saw Korea and Manchuria as core Japan and believed surrendering to the USA would be better since soviets killed all royals everywhere and Japan did not wanted to give up their monarchy.
USA fucked up their navy and stopped them from getting resources to fuel their war. USA did not had great battles in Asia even the UK did more in that regard in Indochina. So yeah everyone did their part and no one alone is the one who did everything alone. But it's funny that commie China larps as victors when in the war they were hiding like cowards in the mountains and did nothing against Japan at all.

>>514778060
>But it's funny that commie China larps as victors when in the war they were hiding like cowards in the mountains and did nothing against Japan at all.
Some of them helped dull Japanese bayonets with their bodies.

>>514778060
>USA did not had great battles in Asia even the UK did more in that regard in Indochina.
Iwo Jima, Battle for Manilla, the Solomons Campaign, Wake Island, Midway.
Nigga are you retarded?

>>514778357
>mfw a pole knows the pacific campaign better than I do.

>>514778357
I've already said their navy did good work including navy battles but they never had anything even close to something like battle of Stalingrad, Moscow and Leningrad

>>514778357
>Iwo Jima, Battle for Manilla, the Solomons Campaign, Wake Island, Midway
All pointless battles. The only reason these islands were fought for were so America could claim most of them after the war. Taking Iwo Jima is irrelevant when the US was producing more ships in a single month than Japan could in 10 years.

>>514777790
Yeah it would

>>514778542
Stalingrad would have been an L for Ivan without lnd lease.
US' own fault for starting cold war to stop the stache

>>514778060
I think the nukes made them ultimately surrender, the soviet threat, I personally believe, only forced unconditional surrender. The emperor of Japan was ready to surrender after the first bomb, but they had a coup attempt from the hardliners who'd rather die to the last person. Even after the 2nd bomb, I think if the coup attempt was successful, the invasion of Japan would have happened. Again, this is just a personal opinion.

>>514778560
It was relevant if you wanted to invade Japan, we needed airfields near their country. If we were going to invade Japan, we couldn't launch bombers off of aircraft carriers...

>>514778357
We had larger battles in Finland and that was an insignificant corner of the eastern front, Iwo Jima sized battle would have barely made it to history books at in the real active parts of the eastern front desu, those naval battles might have been pretty major I'm not too knowledgeable on those

>>514778932
All they wanted was not executing their monarch. And the bombs didn't do much. The firebombing of Tokyo was much worse. It was the Soviet invasion of Manchuria still.. It only ended when USA gave a promise to not destroy their monarchy that they were ready to end the war.

China was an interesting battleground because there were numerous Chinese political factions fighting for their visions of the future of China. The Communists were a very treacherous and cowardly lot in WW2, who tended to backstabbing other Chinese and tended to hide rather than confront the Japanese Tojos.

>>514777790
You just had to meddle didn't you

>>514778060
The soviets only lasted as long as they did till they got the upper hand due to America's supplying them. Remember while everyone else was facing Germany. Only America was facing Japan and Germany. Russia just threw bodies at Germany and act like they were powerful. Had America never enter the war, Russia would have been slowly but surely overwhelmed by Germany.

>Soviets show up at the last second and take credit for everything
The irony

The Chinks were a fucking joke and sideshow to the actual participants in WW2...and we supported the fuck out of Chiang and the nationalists. Stupid fucking Chinamen are about to have their assess kicked by the Japs all over again and nobody will save them this time.

>>514779136
Ironically it was Germany who build and teached the Chinese army to modern standard as best at we could hence why they did much much better than decades before.
Stuff like breaking dams which flooded their own people too were German ideas.

>>514777666 (OP)
I read the books.

>>514779262
>Chinamen are about to have their assess kicked by the Japs all over again
No they wont, japanese culture was completely neutered by the US, they dont have any fighting spirit anymore

>>514779106
fire bombing campaigns lasted months, the nukes took a couple of hours. Yes, fire bombing campaigns were more lethal but when you compare taking out an entire city with 1 plane and 1 bomb, vs days to weeks to months of using fleets of warplanes and many more flight personnel to take out a city, the escalation is far more significant with nukes. You won't convince me otherwise of this, and I don't know why you are stuck on this argument.
Also the U.S decided not to prosecute the emperor after the war ended and even after investigating Japanese leaders and had evidence of the emperor's role in atrocities. They did so to keep stability post-war Japan, as prosecuting would have completely destabilized the country.

>>514779197
Absolutely not. Their great leaders and generals said that too, without help they would have lost.
I trust the words of them who were actual leaders of the union and knew how the realities at those times were more than some retarded tankie trannies online generals.

>>514779467
Bombing cities only works against minor nations while Japan and Germany, soviets and england too made them only fight harder.
USA had their autism with muuh unconditional surrender but then quickly changed after realizing how important he was so it was unconditional surrender + the emperor would be safe. That was then a condition that the Japanese would accept.

>>514779299
They were made into Steven Shekelbergs the Pacific

>>514777666 (OP)
Damn, imagine sinking the entire Japanese fleet, killing millions, and dropping two nukes on their homeland only for your allies to say you didn't help.

>>514777666 (OP)
checked
The Great Satan won indirectly by propping up Russia to destroy Germany's military might.
as well as the might of the former colonial powers and become the World Police.
but Hollywood had a big impact on the collective consciousness of the American mind because they only showed movies where America did most of the fighting and the most heroic battles.

>>514777666 (OP)
It was Russia bodies and American shekels that won the war.

>>514777666 (OP)

it's one of the cringiest lies from those revisionist history mutts. nearly 30 million russians died during ww2. the internet was invented by tim berners-lee, not al gore. german brains and rocket technology put man on the moon. etc. etc. etc.

nobody can take these grotesque, mentally defective cunts seriously. their delusions are north korea tier. next they'll be telling us how they're "white", "not poorfags", and live in a "developed country".

>>514778504

fuck off, jeet/kike/nigger/shitskin. whiter than you.

>>514777790
It would have been paradise :(

>>514777790
And where is the downside?

>>514777666 (OP)
They have done more damage to krauts than POOLAKS, BONGS and other european sissy scum.

Burgers are based in my list.

>>514780152
>nearly 600 million russians died during ww2
What's with the inflated numbers buddy?

>>514777666 (OP)
Americans played a prominent role in WW II. But Americans themselves do not care much about the war anymore, so I suppose it doesn't matter if China wants to erase it. Japan and US are friends now anyway, so it would be disrespectful of them to brag about defeating Japan.

>>514778357
This. Americas were subject to the Death March in Asia

>>514780379
No wonder since they saved USSR from certain defeat, you should feel grateful to them imo

>>514780505
I was grateful in my fucking post, are you blind?

FUCK LENIN tho

They won the pacific war pretty much exclusively. Props to the british too, but they couldn't have kept the war going in Europe without the US, let alone in Asia.

On the European front. Lets do a little hypothetical, lend lease is a tired argument. Let's ignore the trucks, fuel, food, planes etc etc they gave the USSR. Lets pretend the UK wasn't supported by the US, they sue for peace. Now more than a million men in Norway, Africa, France and the rest of their fronts and occupations are freed up. All the tanks, planes and fuel capacity freed up. What happens to the USSR now? Even with lend lease to the USSR, they'd have been crushed. Fuel is what slowed down the advance. There's a direct correlation with fuel availability and advances on the eastern front. That capacity is being spent elsewhere and being destroyed by the US and the UK backed by the US.

>>514780496
ANZAC are also being written out of the Pacific War with that headline.

>>514777666 (OP)
Satan
The united states is the satan.
Always was
Always be.

>>514777666 (OP)
>why
jews made it our founding myth

>>514777666 (OP)
Talk is cheap.
China needs Russia's oil so they will humor Russia with hollow praise.
The military parade was to intimidate Russia, not america, imo.

>>514777790
No
>>514777666 (OP)
Usa joined in later part of ww2.

>But war against japan!

Japan hated Germany because H-er didn't listened to them or helped.

Many people even suspected that H-er was American puppet.

Anerican/jew goal was to destroy empires.

>>514780466
The united states literally nuked japan twice, I dont think there can be any way the united states could humiliate the japanese state/country any further

>>514780663
This is why I always held that its the UK that was actually the defining factor of the outcome of the war. Had hey surrendered to the Germans or at least peaced out with them, we could have been defeated too because the entire German war machine would be concentrated on US. So Brits did pretty good and even Germans knew they were going down eventually unless they find a way to deal with UK.

>>514777666 (OP)
>The CCP, who did fuck all in WW2, write a self insert fanfic where they save the world

>>514780792
They were occupied for the first time in their history by a foreign power. so there's that.

>>514780752
Helped Japs with what? Our small navy which couldn't even handle the Atlantic?
Japs were the useless niggers who invaded china for no reason at all, never helped against the soviets and bought in the Americans to the war like the retarded monkeys they are falling for the American bait.

>>514780752
No, it was germanese ressentiment after the lost in the ww1 + expirience of victory in socialistic revolution from the our red pidorases.

>>514780792
Japanese are very sensitive about their loss. They seethe at China every year for celebrating their victory in WW II. For Japanese its an important issue still. They would be very upset if the US started emphasizing their victory over them, which would inevitable entail justifying the bombings as necessary too. America really doesn't gain much from highlighting their role in WW II, so it might as well be erased.

>>514780816
tankies will shove that boot all the way to the back of their throat.

>>514780880
Because Germany and Japan had completely different interests and objectives. There was really no good reason for Japan to invade USSR, their interests lay elsewhere.

>>514780907
the u.s always highlights their role in ww2, always
against The third reich and le "fascism"
but omits the japanese part very conciusly
WW2 was for the united states elite, the golden ticket to world order closer than any other empire was before, the french-british elites, the u.s elites and the soviet union politburo at yalta was the start of a new era, dividing the world in two sides, and this is the main problem that still drags on, Both sides were allies who destroyed the axis, But now one side wants to eat the other

>>514780810
I think the UK deserves more credit. Especially in terms of actual grit and determination, but the lend lease they received was magnitudes higher than the USSR, it was the defining factor in them being able to last that long. The UK was on it's fucking knees by the end. It's what caused the entire downfall of their empire. They had to go hat in hand to the US after the war to keep afloat and it defined the entire latter half of the 20th century. Eg. The suez crisis.

>>514778840
Stalingrad finished before any meaningful lend lease came in, as did Moscow.

>>514781080
The turning point the eastern front was Kursk.

>>514780976
They argued since Germany was the invader Japan had no oplication to join since we only had a defensive pact.
They were still retarded attacking the USA believing destroying a few ships in their attack will show the USA their place while it only awaked the gigantic USA industrial machine.

>>514777666 (OP)
kek the chink copium is insane
these bugs are actually fucked in the head, on top of all the devastation they're doing to our oceans. Fucking nuke these soulless monsters for the sake of the planet

>>514781144
The turning point was Stalingrad. The sign that this was a bad idea was Moscow.

>>514781066
Yeah, Brits did a good job. It was a sound strategy as well - they could just sit on their island and harass the German rear for as long as needed, tiring and entangling their forces there. They also managed to force them to overexpand their forces with Greece, North Africa etc. and eventually the island served as a base for the bombing forces of both the UK and US, which pretty much flattened Germany into submission. They could reach all the way to Kaliningrad and Germans could do fuck all about it.

>>514781167
Yeah, I never got the US part. However Germany was also giga retarded to attack the US, effectively both justifying the US participation and turning Americans' opinions about the war 180 degrees. Of course, the US was supplying materials to the Allies and denying access to German boats, but come on. Bringing them full force into the war was a suicidal idea.

>>514781225
Didnt the german high-commandment have told about that to the private Shekelgoober?

I sure i`ve read about from herr Junger and other smarties.

>>514781144
They'd already lost momentum by the time kursk happened. It was a flailing attempt to keep the invasion going. It was a less desperate battle of the bulge.
They'd already been encircled in Stalingrad by then. Also as I said in mu other post, fuel and advances were directly correlated. They lost momentum.

>>514781239
That was all thanks to the Duce Tortellini who wanted to recreate muuh Roman empire. Especially with Greece which were pretty neutral to us at those times.
And the UK one big part was obviously their navy making trade for Germany outside if Europe impossible and we needed resources,lots of them.
Bombing our logistic lines in the east to the ground helped the most.

>>514781167
They didn't want to invade because of the Army lost to the Navy's demands when they got fucked by Russians in Khalkhin Gol in 1939. So Navy's ambitions became the priority.
>>514781332
What

>>514781343
Kursk was pretty much Battle of the Bulge on steroids, yeah. They had more meat and were not sitting on their borders yet, but it was a desperate gamble to win something and try to at least make a separate peace with USSR. Ultimately, the war was lost in 1941, but strategically it was lost when the invasion of Britain failed.

board is nothing but turd worlders seething at america constantly. i cannot wait for russia to fall apart. such an annoying nigger country

>>514781427
German genereals have told to Hitler, that Stalingrad will be extremly painful before he started.

>>514781427
Yeah they couldn't and got their asses kicked in the skirmishes. Japan didn't even really had any tanks in significant numbers.

>>514781167
If Japan hadn’t attacked the US then Germany would have lost the war even sooner. America was already bankrolling and supplying the allies and handling all of their strategic logistics. They were only neutral on paper. If Japan hadn’t attacked US ships then Germany would have had to attack American ships sooner or later just like in ww1.

>>514777666 (OP)
What exactly did America do?
>take advantage of British victory in Africa to swoop in and clean up some Italian leftovers.
>invade Italy with mostly Canadian/British troops
>Invade northern France when the war was basically over, again with mostly Brits and Canadians
>Rush to Berlin as Germany is in total collapse anyway

>claim victory
Meanwhile in the east
>take some meaningless islands then drop a nuke on Japan before threatening more and forcing a capitulation.

Canada did more than the USA did, they were just the banker jews of the war.

>>514781239
I feel like they really get a lot more of the credit stolen than Russians. The debate always go muh US, no no muh russia, no no muh US. Atleast you guys have people arguing in your favour, while the UK doesn't get the same credit.
>>514781319
From what ive seen and read, he genuinely thought by pitting himself against the US, the Japanese would be proper allies and attack your boys. Which was a delusion, but i follow the logic to a degree.

>>514777666 (OP)
>Why do Americans think they won WW2??
American industry, resources, and financing won WW2. China and the USSR supplied the manpower/cannonfodder, but their manpower/cannonfodder alone would not have been enough without American industry, resources, and financing in their corner to back them up.

>>514780663
But in that case Stalin and the Soviet Union would have also not ordered the army to essentially stand down, so to not provoke the Germans to going to war. The Stalin line would have been completed and the Germans would have faced a mobilized Red Army in the East which is a completely different scenario for Barbarossa.

>>514781319
You don’t get it, the US being neutral on paper while in reality handling all the allies global maritime logistics means the allies had an untouchable lifeline. Forcing the US to actually shed blood was the only option

>>514777666 (OP)
"World" war 2 was largely a war between Germany and Russia. America only really entered the war once Germany started to collapse just to prevent Russia from taking over all of Europe.

>>514781543
Supply everyone

>>514778060

This is definitely that chinese chink tranny immigrant in Germany

KEK

>>514777790
Mutt moment

>>514781517
German generals were retards. Hitler had more sound strategic decision making than the glory chasing retards in high command who whitewashed themselves post war by blaming everything on Hitler because much officer prestige could never do no wrong. Prussianism is a mental illness.
The only other man worth a mention other than Hitler is Albert Speer, without him Germany would have folded much earlier.

>>514778060
>Japan surrendered because soviets were steamrolling Manchuria
Yeah, but there is nuance to that. The Soviets didn't steamroll Manchuria in a vacuum. Before it had even got to that point, the Soviets had to first win the war in Europe, which they would not have without enormous American lend-lease and a 2nd front against Germany to help them. That's the first thing. The second is, with this exact same lend-lease support, the Soviets were only able to steamroll Manchuria as you said, because the Japs were forced to deplete their Manchurian army in order to try to fend off the relentless American advance across the Pacific. Talking about New Guinea, Guam, Phillipines, and lots of various small islands. Many of these we just bypassed entirely but the Japs were still nonetheless forced to garrison. The totality of all this meant they didn't have much strength in Manchuria to defend against the Soviet invasion when it came.

>>514777666 (OP)
well russians had a fucklot to do with germany capitulation but japanese surrendering was mainly due to americans and the couple good reasons they gave them

>>514777666 (OP)
Without the US and the UK helping the russians we would have won the war.
You made your bed, sleep in it

>>514777666 (OP)
They made a movie starring Tom Hanks about that ship that was hijacked by Somali pirates, another one about the pilot that crashed his multi million dollar plane into a river. Can you imagine how much they embellished what happened in WW2 to sell movies?

>>514781600
>UK doesn't get the same credit
I suppose WW II is just not that big even in UK's own narrative. When I lived there, they talked much more about WW I and their role in it than WW II. Probably because ultimately it didn't work out as planned - they had to bring the US in and their role in post-war Europe got overshadowed by the struggle between US and USSR. But then again, WW I was sort of a failure too for everyone involved, so not sure why they dedicate more attention to it.

>the Japanese would be proper allies and attack your boys

Which is weird, because the Japanese had already failed to honour the alliance almost a year prior. And with them being stuck in a multiple front war already, Japan hardly could afford getting tied up in another one.

>>514778504
>>mfw a pole knows the pacific campaign better than I do.
There's a stick thread on this board about logical fallacies, but most anons seem to ignore it. You're guilty of one of them right here. The genetic fallacy. Just because you're American doesn't mean you know more about the Pacific campaign. You probably weren't alive then, and if you were you're old and senile.

I'm American, but I know fuck all about American nigger ball sports like Basketball. Me being American doesn't mean jack shit about my knowledge of American sports, which I have zero interest in.

On the other hand, some Mongolian shaman living in a yurt who has an intense autistic level interest in Basketball might be an expert on the topic even though he's not an American at all.

So stfu with your gas ass genetic logical fallacy. Where someone lives has zero correlation to what their knowledge on a topic may or may not be.

>>514781875
Probably because WW1 was the last war where they were the cutting edge industrial power that came up with things like tanks, while in ww2 they were way behind Germany and the US in innovation and industry.

>>514781875
Because a lot more of our men died in WW1 than WW2. The war where more of your people die is the most remembered. It's why it's understandable when your country or China remember WW2 so much, even if you have retards telling you that
>WW2 was so long ago who even cares lmao

>>514777666 (OP)
>Erase importance of Russia from WW2 for almost 100 years
>Get mad when somebody else do it with you
Female thinking

>>514778060
Every Jap poster will tell you they lost to China.

>>514782056
Yeah, but WW I was a miserable experience for everyone. Nobody won in that war really by any merit. Everyone just exhausted themselves without getting much in return.

>>514778542
>I've already said their navy did good work including navy battles
These naval battles did not count for nothing. Japan's navy and their army were separate entities and rivals with one another that had to fight over Japan's scant resources. The Navy ended up getting top priority as the Japanese government understood a powerful navy was the only way to defeat American Britain. The Japs built a lot of very large and powerful warships, including the largest battleships ever built. The amount of steel these required to construct and the amount of fuel they consumed to operate was enormous. With those same resources, Japan count have built thousands of tanks instead and would have been strong enough to knock China out of the war and perhaps also fend off the Soviet invasion when it came, but because so much was diverted into their navy, this meant they weren't powerful enough on land to do these things.

Your country's approach was more the complete opposite. Hitler's main focus was on the land army, so German naval strength was far too weak to win the battle of the Atlantic. You could have had the Panzer divsions which you did have, or you could have had powerful battleships and carriers like Japan did, but it wasn't possible to have both.

>>514781746
Yeah whatever, Academia is full of retards but the home-painter from the streets who was blaming DA JOOS on everything like million niggers before and after was right.

>DEUTCHLAND BETRAYED HIM.
Ye?

>>514781465
Why do Americans live in this fantasy land where they are the most important nation in existence? Like the entire world would stop if they didn't exist. So many Americans I actually respect are completely tarnished by their American hubris.
>>514781640
Look I know i started it. But the problem with hypotheticals is one of timing. Its a very different hypothetical if the UK capitulates before Barbarossa versus if they do it after. And even those two hypotheticals have their own branches.
>>514781875
I think on some level it's an embarrassing moment for the UK. The downfall of it all, RIP the empire. But a lot of them get pretty patriotic about it still.

My favourite part about the Japanese is the Admiralty basically being like do not fucking fight the US and them doing it anyway. It's interesting to think about a second world war without Japan attacking the US.

>>514778560
>All pointless battles. The only reason these islands were fought for were so America could claim most of them after the war.
Most of these islands are uninhabited, and even if we claimed them, they're not used for much other than nature preserves. They were taken as stepping stones, since the eventual objective was going to be to launch an invasion of Japan itself. But you can't invade mainland Japan without first securing a route to it. That was what the island hopping was all about.

And even if the invasion of Japan never did happen, these islands became unsinkable aircraft carriers from which the bombing of Japan (including the atomic bombings) were conducted.

>>514777666 (OP)
>>514777790
>>514778060
Why do russians and chinese pretend they could have won the war without the US's military and manufacturing?

>>514782266
>Ching chong fong dong nong fong

>>514778060
>soviets were steamrolling Manchuria
And with what were they steamrolling? USA equipment, USA tank parts, USA trucks, USA food, USA clothes, USA medicine, USA oil, soviets without lend lease would be riding donkeys like they do now in Ukraine, know your place - "victor"

>>514782266
I suppose he Empire was unsustainable in the long run. There is a reason why decolonization happened and while WW II certainly accelerated it, the process was inevitable. For the UK WW II was a tragic misfortune - even before the war broke out they knew it would likely end ugly for them regardless of what decision they take. They really hoped they could appease Hitler with concessions and he would just stop, but alas. After realizing he only expanded his ambitions they reluctantly turned to war which they weren't fully prepared for.

>>514782310
everyone has their nationalist bias. the chinese happen to be pants on head retarded in this case.

>>514777666 (OP)
They unironically did win the pacific. Most kino part of the US war effort by far. Absolute total gook death

>>514778840
>Stalingrad would have been an L for Ivan without lnd lease.
Not only the Lend-Lease, but people often ignore the fact that Operation Torch was unfolding in North Africa concurrently with the battle of Stalingrad. Rommel was probably the best general the Axis had, but he was tied up in North Africa, as was the Afrika Korps. Italy was almost completely useless, so the Germans had to send an entire army corps to North Africa to carry the weight the Italians were unable to.

When you look at just how close the battle of Stalingrad was, there is no question that had Rommel and that entire Afrika Korps been available there instead of being tied up in North Africa, the Axis would have won Stalingrad easily.

So yes, beyond just the lend-lease, this 2nd front we opened was also critically important.

>>514777666 (OP)
>americans
>think
pick one, youre talking to kallergi-mutts here. these people like torturing and murdering everyone lol.

>>514777666 (OP)
China wasn't even in WW2.

>>514777666 (OP)
>destruction of the founding myth
you're better off attacking jews and letting it destroy itself
it'll backfire if you actually attack the myth

>>514779106
>And the bombs didn't do much. The firebombing of Tokyo was much worse.
The levels of destruction were comparable. What's notable with the Atomic bombs is that this level of destruction was achieved with just a single bomb, that would otherwise have required thousands.

>>514779162
They wouldn't have if Japan hadn't aired their petty grievances at not getting muh machine parts, oil, and rubber with a childish attack on a massive neutral force.

>>514777666 (OP)
Why do foreigners keep thinking that when it is said we won wwII this means we exclusively won wwII? People know about Soviets role but there are way too many complexities beyond the eastern front to pretend that the one defense won the war, or that barbarossa would have been repelled alone without aid or other fronts covered, or that the Soviets would have handeled the pacific too
Like listen to how retarded OP the faggot is
>Why do Americans think they won WW2??
Did we lose WWII?

>>514782266
you're a fagstralian. you have no history or culture and if you're the chang micro penis i'm pretty sure you, all your chinnk history is fake

>>514779299
>Ironically it was Germany who build and teached the Chinese army to modern standard as best at we could hence why they did much much better than decades before.
This was because of the previous German government before Hitler took power. Hitler continued those friendly ties with China for awhile, but eventually he recognized Japan would be a more useful ally to counter Britain's naval supremacy since they had ships and China didn't. He wasn't wrong. Japan surprised the whole world when they managed to take Singapore, which was thought to be an unconquerable fortress. Churchill fell into a deep depression over the loss.

>>514782266
Americans are mentally stuck in the era where US manufacturing was larger than the rest of the world put together. They don’t understand that the US now is literally the UK from the 1920s/30s. Has all of the cash, owns the whole world on paper but doesn’t actually make shit and is reliant on an increasingly obsolete and ill-equipped navy for global force projection.

They solo carried ww2.

>>514777666 (OP)
jews convince every country they were the ones who won the war as a segue into talking about it constantly as their "greatest victory" subtly enforcing that their greatest acheivement was "saving the jews" and that White people like them are the most evil people who've ever lived. Then they find some inane bit of your country's history to start acting like is the second greatest evil so they can convince you that there's people in your country that look like you who are just as bad and if you don't stop them it's all for naught! Then it gradually escalates as you age into: "You need to lay down and die or you're evil."

>>514777666 (OP)
>>514782310
Because if they looked at history from an unbiased position, then they would realize that they had nothing to be proud of.
The USSR forced tons of young men to be a meat shield for no good reason when their generals had no strategy other than to throw tons of young men to the frontline.
Also, even Stalin admitted that without American steel and land leases, they would 100% lose the war.
That's said. WW2 was a gigantic mistake.
The US should've allied with the Nazis.
I fucking loathe kikes.

>>514782655
You can`t speak ITT, cause you`ve fallen in two months. Go be a cuck somewhere else.

>>514782681
I always found it interesting that the "death camps for Jews" were the ones discovered by the Soviets. The "concentration camps for Jews" were the ones discovered by the Americans.

An elderly Pole once told me that at the end of the war if you heard the Germans were coming, you hid your jewelry. If you heard the Soviets were coming, you hid.

>>514778060
>Japan surrendered because the soviets were steamrolling Manchuria
You are a stupid fuck. The USSR could not even invade Hokkaido because it didn't even have an amphibious assault boat. The US had to lend boats to them, and they failed to invade it.
That's why we had to resort to nukes to defeat them.
Read history before you sprout something stupid.

>>514782179
I didn't say Hitler wasn't a schizophrenic, but even as a schizophrenic he was more strategically sound than German generals. His ideas led to quick victory over France, something that should have not been possible which is exactly what his generals were telling him, saying to call off the attack. After Hitler's success, this blitzkrieg idea got to German high command heads.
Hitler's immediate goal in Russia was to secure resources which is why he pushed for the Caucasus. German high command retards saw blitzkrieg and wanted to apply it to Russia, which is why they pushed for and got their three army groups going north, centre, and south, reasoning to Hitler that capturing Leningrad, Moscow, and Kiev would make Russia surrender like Paris made France surrender.
Hitler trusted his retard generals rather than insist on pushing for the Caucasus. German high command of course fucked up army group north and centre, south barely succeeded and that's when Hitler took over and told the retards to push for the oil in the Caucasus. They did but failed because the retarded generals wasted the vast sum of resources on Moscow and Leningrad already and couldn't build logistical lines worth a shit. Hitler in a schizophrenic mania refused to believe his Ubermensch generals were that retarded and believe the 6th army could hold, ultimately leading to their extinction and the forever anticipated counter attack by Steiner to defeat the Russians.

>tl;dr the profound mental retardation of German generals led to the mustached former artist corporal's full blown manic psychosis

>>514782796
>I always found it interesting that the "death camps for Jews" were the ones discovered by the Soviets. The "concentration camps for Jews" were the ones discovered by the Americans.
Yes, picrel.
>An elderly Pole once told me that at the end of the war if you heard the Germans were coming, you hid your jewelry. If you heard the Soviets were coming, you hid.
Yeah, that's why I am 100% sure that Patton was talking about the USSR and kikes. That's why he was killed.
I wished that the US had never gotten involved with the European frontline, even if the Imperial Japanese Empire had attacked us.
Unfortunately, the Nazis declared war on us.
Though that's why America joined with war late, because the majority of Americans at the time didn't want to join the war.
I blamed FDR and kikes

>>514782885
I`ve heard you from the start, m8:
Shekelgoober > Academia
I DISAGREE.

Our Churkashvilli Sralin was a same level retard, gopnik from the streets.

>>514778060
Manchuria isn’t Japan though.

>>514780379
no we did

>>514780152
30 million dead in the war? Sounds like they’re terrible at it.

>>514777666 (OP)
Satan lord of lies.

>>514783275
Vivaldi > Mozart anyway...

>>514782796
>I always found it interesting that the "death camps for Jews" were the ones discovered by the Soviets.

Why would it not make sense. The people Germans wanted to exterminate were located almost entirely in the East. So of course the death camps were built there as well. Why would they build death camps for Poles in Paris? This makes no sense logistically. Plus Poland and territories to the East were under very strict military administration and were practically almost a war zone. It would be much easier to maintain them there when compared to their deep rear.

>>514778542
>wipes out entire cities in a single blast.
>most other cities burned and reduced to rubble

The fuck are you on about? We didn't kill enough American soldiers? That's the opposite of strategy.

>>514779106
Japan's surrender was unconditional, and letting the emperor live wasn't determined until after the surrender.

I agree.
The USA should never have gotten involved in WWII or WWI, even from a supply line front.
Complete isolationism is needed.

>>514782373
I've never looked into it but it wouldn't suprise me if the US was involved in further exacerbating it. They clearly wanted it.
>>514782589
Americans will continue to burn every bridge around them, until one day they fall and they're all alone because of their own arrogance. Good luck mate.
>>514782624
Based american. I know you're not all bad, there's just so many loud arrogant cunts it's hard to remember that sometimes.

>>514783420
Because the Red Army didn't "liberate" concentration camps. They finished off anyone they found there and called them death camps. They committed what became called the Holocaust. The Germans, in their very German way, kept records. The Soviets exterminated anyone they found in the camps they "liberated" in the same way that they pillaged the countryside leading up to them.

>>514782820
They still managed to steal some of the islands after the war ended and inexplicably have been permitted to keep them.

>>514783699
Why would the Soviets do anything like that?

>>514777666 (OP)
Lmao the chinks, who were getting their shit pushed all while Mao hid in some mountains. Compelling.

>>514783699
everything is much simpler. Germany became a de facto ally of the United States immediately after their surrender, and the United States began to defend them in every possible way. Americans learned about the camps later from Hollywood films.

>>514778542
Those are all literal meatgrinders du voll Arschgeige

>>514778560
It’s clear the rapefugee haplogroup admixture is strong here because you have no clue what naval strategy is

>>514778060
You need to hit up some history books or a couple youtubes.
The navy didn't fight the Marines did and they were the most vicious battles of WW2. Against a enemy that was always fight or die. You are on a island, no way to retreat. You win or you die.
The fights with Russia was just fucking stupid, a waste of resources and life proven by Napoleon. You just don't fight in Russia.

>>514780466
And it’s been your only win in 80 years

>>514783795
Why not? More mouths to feed is more resources to expend. Better to just kill them off and claim the Germans did it.

>>514778060
Japan was defeated by USA. By the time USSR started destroying japs in Manchuria, US already de facto won war, so what it affected is Japs abandoning hope to keep any mainland territories. And even with that, fighting with Soviets lasted for almost a year longer than official end of war.

We killed over million japanese troops and were ready to invade hokkaido, but even if we didnt - it woudnd change fact that Japan basically lost at that point.

As for USA war in China mainland in WW2 - people forget USA actually occupied parts of china for 4 years after 1945 and even fought with PLA at some cases. So while China recognizes US role in WW2 Victory, its not exactly "oh thank you saviors!" kind

>>514783699
>They still managed to steal some of the islands
With our boats that we gave them.
We were way too generous for our own good.
That was a costly mistake.

>>514784207
People are a resource themselves. A resource that can work, fight and produce. Its nonsensical to just destroy it for no good reason.

>>514784219
The only thing which i really, really do not understanden SHEISCSEE, why do whiteys keep watch ANIME, product of the untermenschs who`ve been at war against two powers which where more powerful than 10000 Japans?

>>514779378
Based

>>514777666 (OP)
They had a Normandy tour guide on Al Murray's podcast. He said despite travelling all the way to France specifically to do WW2 battlefield tourism the Americans are surprised and sometimes even angry to discover Gold, Sword and Juno beaches existed. Because Canada and Britain didn't take part in D-day.

I reiterate, these are the "history enthusiasts", god knows what your average Bumfuck Idaho resident thinks.

>>514784620
You know as well as I that Jews will never be subjugated.

>>514777666 (OP)
Chinks have been funding the Shekelberg movies for decades now.

>>514777666 (OP)
Im fine with this.

I love my Japbros. They are honorary Aryans. If people say that us killing them is a jewish lie then I believe it because I want that to be true.

>>514779106
>And the bombs didn't do much.
Tokyo was worse but was also a huge operation that was never replicated while the nuclear bombs presented the possibility of an unstoppable systematic destruction of the entire country in a very short period of time - bear in mind that the Japanese had no way of knowing that the US only had two bombs and that it would be a fairly long time until they had more ready. The generals running the country were fine with that because they were all lunatics, but after the second bombing the Emperor basically ordered them to surrender because he wasn't willing to sit there and watch the entire country get bombed into oblivion with no way of fighting back.

The nukes weren’t for Japan to see and fear but the rest of the world.

>>514784944
Jews began and exist as a subjugated people.

>>514777666 (OP)
yeah, but what timmy gonna do? The victors write history.

>>514777666 (OP)
How true is it or just another meme article?

Besides, all nations are bound to be dogshit if their basic mode of thought is this sort of anti-facts cope.

>>514777790
Wow thanks mutts at least im not speaking german