Thread 514783084

>>514783084 (OP)
She's right, who would contest that.

All of that is feminist roastie bullshit. There's no free housing in Afghanistan or childcare services, only patriarchy and their women are popping out 4~5 kids on average.

>>514783084 (OP)
countries in africa where nobody even knows how to read don't have this problem

>>514783084 (OP)
>the Patriarchy made women stop having babies!
Seems like something a bunch of Patriarchs would do!

>>514783084 (OP)
Denmark, Norway, etc all have these socialist things and still decreasing births. Before you post about how great socialism is check Canada, Scandi countries and communist shitholes like Laos because whatever you claim has already been done

>>514783084 (OP)
>mentions the word "patriarchy"
>stop reading right there
>Opinion IMMEDIATELY discarded.

>>514783084 (OP)
billions must die

>>514783084 (OP)
Not even close.

>>514783084 (OP)
Or maybe lets zero in on the real culprits: The welfare state, Jewish corporations, and the kike bankers who prop it all up. Inflated housing costs and monstrous over-taxation are the reasons why child-rearing is expensive. Shitskins can pump out 4-5 kids because the government subsidizes them while robbing YOU.

>>514783084 (OP)
Just delete endless mass immigration and look at the modern problems disappearing in real time rapidly in real time.

>>514783084 (OP)
Poor countries and poor people have more children than rich countries or rich people, so this isn't true

>>514783203
Me faggot
Countries that have this don’t have high birth rates

The issue is and always will be birth control pills and contraceptives such as condoms
Monkey brained whores of all colors can’t resist getting fucked and will get pregnant if you take away their kill pills, estrogen pills and sperm holders

End of story
I don’t care about culture or feminism or whatever stupid shit you think is the reason
It’s birth control and contraceptives

>>514783213
>>514783263
>>514783408
Large broods of offspring are a survival mechanism.

She thinks feminism will cause more births. She lives in opposite world

>>514783084 (OP)
If women simply left the workforce (or didn’t enter it to begin with) all of those problems either wouldn’t exist or would be curtailed significantly

>>514783715
>Large broods of offspring are a survival mechanism
Correct, that is how a species survives.
You cracked the code.
Now the question is how we manage it for ours.

>>514783084 (OP)
>Give me infinite obedient workers and consumers or I'll import infinite jeets

>>514783960
Its kind of cute seeing a naive pleb feminist that doesnt understand that destroying the family was the goal. The higher iq jewess feminists will get caught saying that part out loud.

>>514784022
It is how insects survive.

>>514783084 (OP)
>patriarchy
This is bait

>>514783084 (OP)
Oh shit we just got blown out by some literally who on Twatter! How can we even recover? But seriously, fuck off with your screencap threads you 1post faggot.

>>514783084 (OP)
>Patriarchy and unequal distribution of labor in the home
Well, you have to have fathers, and only mothers go through labor and you feminist cunts hate those things, so that's a big reason the birth rate is declining.

>>514783637
non subhumans actually require proper parenting.

>>514783084 (OP)
>The Patriarchy
Wasn't the birth rate exponentially higher when the patriarchy was explicitly legally in charge?

>>514783084 (OP)
Weird, because if you go to countries where all of that shit is free their birthrates are worse.

>unequal distribution of labour in the home

Yeah women do fuck all now.

>>514783084 (OP)
>feminists create problem by trying to institute feminism
>feminists come with solution of more feminism
why do kikes and communists always use this tactic ? is it really that effective ? how would decent people be able to use it if they ever did ?

I give such good dick that my wife wants me to impregnate her on that alone.

Just fuck women harder, its that easy.

>>514783715
>Large broods of offspring are a survival mechanism.
surviving is good though

>>514783084 (OP)
That can't be right because poor oppressed women have a lot more babies.

>>514783637
What an idea.
Let's all go live like niggers in africa (or in your case just be yourself) instead of fixing the structural issue that led to the problem arising in the first place.

>>514783084 (OP)
The thing that worsens all those predicaments? Immigration, which she daren't mention.

Women are the consumers of the system.
Women need to be controlled otherwise they overspend money they don't have, they don't have children and they become soulless subhuman baby killers.

Your DUTY as a woman in the west is to do whatever the fuck you want, consume as many products as possible and whine like a retard that it isn't enough and that you want to be MR big time CEO to consume even more.
It's fucking pathetic.

African niggers have no food, no water, no tenable civilisation and yet will actually have children.

The problem is staring at women in the face when they slap on their $500 ofmakeup everyday infront of their mirror, absolute fucking retards.

>>514783084 (OP)
Stupid cunt lol

>>514783084 (OP)
>muh costs
all of those are alleviated by having a partner. stupid bitch.

>>514783084 (OP)
student debt is effectivley just a higher tax rate because you pay $X a month forever. it should not prohibit you from doing anything besides some discretionary spending. if having kids is something you consider discretionary spending then you have the wrong priorities because those women are still buying pointless shit to fill their apartments and doing frivolous activities.

>>514784907
The point of the strategy is that most of the offspring do not survive.

>>514783213
Brilliant! We just need to turn every white country into a third world Islamic shit hole!

>>514783084 (OP)
It's feminism.
Next question.

>>514784062
There is a hierarchy within feminism that even most feminists are unaware of, but it's there. Feminist Jews are of course on top within the feminist movement, but just beneath them are the lesbians with a little bit of overlap between the groups. The unspoken agreement between the two groups is that the femjews funnel money and support from the Jewish banking establishment to the dykes so they can practice political lesbianism and in return the dykes only disrupt non-Jewish family life. The lesbians want to destroy the family and heterosexuality in general to try to maximize their sexual opportunities, reproduction and the survival of society be damned. Rank and file white and brownoid feminists have no clue that they're just meat for the lesbians. This is why feminist Jews always end up married and pumping out a few kids with a beaten down cuckjew husband and why middle age white roasties own cats while the lesbians silently rage that even now they won't munch their cunts.

>>514785104
>taxes are good
Lol

>>514783263
Brilliant! We just need to turn all white countries into Africa! Time to import more BBC!

>>514783203
> women make up over 55% of active voters in every election.
True, except for why those things are the way they are?

>>514783637
But its only money for me why.

>>514785254
>Elections
The slave suggestion box has nothing to do with actual policy.

>>514783084 (OP)
>proves you wrong
we are just degenerates who have given up even basic social reproduction

>>514783084 (OP)
Like 80% of this shit ramped up in the last 4 years but it's been an openly and widely discussed concern or problem for at least two generations now. Birthrates are low because women have rights they don't need or want because whoever controls womens' feelings controls half the population

>>514784033
**enslaves their children and children's children to jews**
> Actually I got infinite obedient workers and consumers BUT I'll import infinite jeets ANYWAYS!

>>514784965
>>514784533
>Implying that all the white people will stop acting like white people because you take away their brain altering hormone drugs and baby murder pills
>Implying that they won’t import niggers, mudslimes, poojeets because of the lack of births

This is your brain on faggotry and brainwashing
>They just won’t take care of the baby and parent them because…. I say so?
>Because they have the same birth rate they will be like niggers because… I feel like it and want to win an argument??
Kek
You’re a retard

Niggers will birth niggers and will be niggers and retards because of genetics
No amount of parenting will make them whites equals despite your tiny brain thinking as such

>Whites need proper parenting or they’ll be like niggers
They will be much more intelligent regardless
You stupid nigger but a forced raising by women and forcing them to stop being sluts and taking responsibility will 100% change culture

You’re both retards

Lower birthrates are only a problem with unchecked immigration. Line isn't always going to go up unless you cheat to make it you stpid nigger (woman is the nigger of gender)

>>514783084 (OP)
Obvioualy the patriarchy, and not radical feminism and/or hypergamy, is why birth rates are cratering.
t. Radical Feminist Woman

>>514786004
>woman

There are no women on /pol/, just men and troons.

>>514783084 (OP)
There was no low birth rate when we did live in a patriarchy.
We didn't have an equal distribution of labor either

>>514786135
>We didn't have an equal distribution of labor
We did but now they want to switch jobs.

>>514784246
And every other damn species you stupid fuck.
>but muh RK selection, Imma have 1 kid at 40 and overspend on them
Fucking retards man.

>>514783084 (OP)
>no mention on the degradation of male-female relations due to divorce laws, female cultural divides and open access to escapism, antidepressants and porn
>mention "labor in the home"
Opinion discarded

>>514783084 (OP)
We had no problem with those until kareens got the right to vote.

>>514783084 (OP)
All of which are caused by mass migration.
Which, of course, leftoids will never ever vote to reverse

>>514783084 (OP)
I’m sure if we import more brown people that will fix the problem. Especially male muslims

This goes without saying, most people in the U.S. can’t afford to have kids. In my state the cheapest house you can get is still at minimum 330,000 dollars and that’s for a crackdown. Add car payments, student debt, and the ridiculous cost of living and then try to find a way to add kids into that. Just isn’t happening.

>>514786646
The environmental pressure to have lots of children doesn't exist for most people living in the developed nations of the world today.

>>514785219
>Brilliant! We just need to turn all white countries into Africa! Time to import more BBC!
yes, that is what is happening, nice of you to finally notice the consequences of feminism after it's too late to prevent them (as usual)

>>514786973
Imagine if we deported 100 million brown people

>>514783084 (OP)
fake and gay, doenst talk about how its the jews fault.

>>514783084 (OP)
poland had a higher birth rate under nazi german occupation than it has today

>>514783084 (OP)

Increasing public debt and bureaucracy isn't going to help

There needs to be mechanisms to make young men feel invested in the system or the system will break

>>514783084 (OP)

Osama bin Laden did nothing wrong

>>514785186
So everybody loses except the Jews?
Unsurprising.

>>514783084 (OP)
>patriarchy
yes, the problem is patriarchy. That's why more feminism increases the birthrates in countries.

It started with listening to women and it would be solved with not listening to women.

>>514783084 (OP)
Every single thing she just complained about was caused by mass-immigration.

>>514787559
yep, it's not even the Jews fault, everyone else is just so stupid and jealous they won't follow the Ten Commandments, and get BTFO as a result

Idk why anyone still believes women want kids.
They had to before as a meal ticket. The moment they can do anything else for a meal ticket they choose that over kids.
You are all sentimental sucks lol "hurr Durr women are da natural nurturers etc" no they slice up babies and then have to jigsaw them back together to make sure no parts were left inside them

>>514787559
Pretty much. One of the most frightening aspects of Jewish culture is their ability to weaponize failed human beings, even from among their own ranks. Most cultures would have shitcanned the likes of Karl Max or Andrea Dworkin but the kikes took their toxicity and turned it into poison for the goy.

>>514783084 (OP)
As if fixing any of that would magically undo decades of social programming and make roasts want to have kids. If you gave a roastie 5 million bucks she'd hop on a plane to go to 8 different foreign countries to get railed by Chad

>>514783084 (OP)
Birth rate increased during patriarchy, no college for girls and no one listing to them either

>>514783084 (OP)
Funny all that is a direct consequence of unchecked turd worl immigration.

>>514783084 (OP)
birthrates...were...increased...before all that????

>>514783606
"Poor countries" tend to have affordable housing for poor people

>>514783084 (OP)
What a stupid whore.

>We need more feminism to improve the birthrate, much inequality in the home

Never has anyone been as wrong as this bitch.

>>514783084 (OP)
>distribution of labor in the home

Women are just mindless herd animals.

>>514783084 (OP)
Leftists trying to rewrite history again.

>>514783084 (OP)
Why does the line need to go up?

>>514783084 (OP)
Fertility rates were at their highest when women did all of the housework and weren't allowed to vote.

>>514783084 (OP)
>If you fund these social programs birth rates would be booming
Yeah, just look at Sweden and Norway while seeing the collapsing birth rates of Nigeria.

>>514784965
>instead of fixing the structural issue that led to the problem arising in the first place.
Women's rights, birth control, and over education?

>>514783084 (OP)
That's such bullshit. If this was it then rich folks wouldn't be seeing lower birth rates too. Not to mention we had high birth rates in times of mass poverty.

>>514783084 (OP)
And all of those only affect whites because...?

>>514783408
This. Europe has appalling birthrates despite widespread socialism. The problem is, and always has been, feminism.

>>514785335
This. The guy you're responding to is just bitter he doesnt have a girlfriend. Birth control lowers the birthrates of a whole country, but who we should actually care about are the people who should, and want to have children, but can't because of the fake and gay economy. Twitter bitch had a point for the first half of what she was saying before she devolved to feminism buzzwords.

>>514783084 (OP)
>Patriarchy
God women are retarded
Women's rights remain a civilization ending mistake
TKD
>>514785135
Islam is right about women and polygamy
>>514791651
Because otherwise the jews and their shabbos goys will be dragged from their homes and executed due to currency being tied to a system that creates wealth from nothing on the backs of the have-nots

>>514783084 (OP)
The birth rate didn't fall below replacement during the Great Depression. It's not about finances. Anyone who says it is just wants more gibs (and they won't actually have kids even if you firehose them with cash).

>>514791651
>Uh, like, why do you even NEED kids/a legacy/reason to work??
Highest T kafir

>>514783084 (OP)
The fact that “low birth rates” are shilled constantly everywhere makes me think it’s fake just like climate chnage.


It’s just yet another convenient excuse for infinity immigration, but this time for economic reasons.

>>514783084 (OP)
>patriarchy
how? men can't get pregnant nigga wtf is this woman on about?

>>514792176
No increase in birthrate will ever be enough for them, they'll just keep coming up with excuses to bring in migrants. The jew must be removed

>>514792338
>what is population stabilization
Highest IQ muslim

>>514783203
None of your problems are because someone else is white, a billionaire, owning multiple houses, or not having free healthcare.

>>514785135
It would be an improvement if it meant kicking out non-White kuffar.

>>514783084 (OP)
>student debt
College for most people is a scam, especially women. Still everyone falls for it, so ok fine.
>Untenable childcare and healthcare costs.
The woman can be a stayhome mom to cover childcare but healthcare, sure.
>housing costs
By far the biggest factor here. Houses should be for living, not investments.
>patriarchy
Lol wut? Patriarchy is what we had for 99% of human history when birthrates werent shit. In fact only muslims have decent birthrates now, and they are the only remaining patriarchy. Any western woman who unironically uses this term should be deported to someplace it is true.
>unequal distribution of work
Then stop working for shekelberg so you can buy all the retarded shit you cant stop buying. Women make 85% of household purchases. They cant fucking control themselves, and this is the only actual real reason they even work.

>>514783203
She's 100% wrong about everything you stupid retard.
The ONLY reason childbirth is low is that women refuse to have them, because whoring and working career jobs is more important to them than kids.

A 14 year old girl in Congo gets sold to her husband and immediately made pregnant. Women ONLY have kids when they have no other choice. If they have ANY other choice, they do that and abort kids.

>>514785848
The genuinely left wingers on here seriously need to fuck off or learn up. I am not going to seriously engage with these basic bitch discussions on free market economics or feminism. That shit was trite a decade ago.

>>514783084 (OP)
The good ole useful dobitocs.

Women are choosing not to have kids, and so we import third worlders who will vote to take away their rights in time. AND sex pest them while doing so.

Sorry ladies, but you should have settled for a decent warehouse worker, instead of putting yourself in debt in uni and thinking that you're entitled to mr darcy

>>514783084 (OP)
Nations with strong patriarchal culture, bad medical services, low female education, and low female participation in the workforce have much higher birthrates

>>514783263
People work hard in any society to meet social standards. In most of the world you're considered a subhuman piece of shit if you can't afford a car, house and luxuries by the time you're in your 30s. Meanwhile in Africa and India you're considered well off if you aren't completely homeless so the bar is alot lower and people feel like their life is on track to have kids sooner

>>514783084 (OP)
>people aren’t having children because of the patriarchy
feminists never deserved to be taken seriously, not even for a second

>>514783084 (OP)
>patriarchy

>student debt
nobody forced you to take it
>untenable childcare
nobody forces you to send your spawn to be taken "care" of by strangers
>healthcare costs
nobody forces you to live unhealthy lifestyle in a country where you can't afford insurance
>housing costs
nobody forces you to live in an area you can't afford to buy a home in.
>patriarchy
nobody forces you to live with men in your life
>unequal distribution of labor in the home
nobody forces you to keep your house clean or maintain it

In the end, nobody forces women to have or have no kids. It's their decision and their responsibility. It's better this way than them parasitising on men who don't want kids. Men who want kids should just find a surrogate in the third world who'll do it for money if they're so keen. Unfortunately it takes two to tango. The least you can do is avoid dancing with a predatory cunt.

>>514789901
India, the Philippines, affordable housing. Right. They live in hovels and garbage.

>>514783084 (OP)
>student debt
don't get fake degrees
>childcare
stay at home and raise your child, cunt
>healthcare
don't eat goyslop, dumb bitch
>housing cost
buy cheap land and build your own place, faggot
>patriarchy
This is the solution, cunt
>unequal distribution of labor in the home
stupid bitch, chores are nothing since the evil(tm) patriarchy has relegated all the real work to MAN made machines, making your job merely taking things to the machines for the machines to do the work.

>>514783084 (OP)

I'm sure the Nigger&Jew and Mongreloid-Bigot Pimps played - "no-role-at-all"...

In precipitous decline in IQ & Births?

Just keep Pimping-Niggers...

Everything will be just-fine.

>>514793429

they're obsessed with comforting fiction. i don't know what else to tell you.

i stopped giving a shit years ago. let them bleat.

>>514783084 (OP)
>patriarchy destroys birth rates
You heard it here first kids. I genuinely have no words to describe how wrong and retarded she is literally 180 degrees from the truth. I'm not even gonna bother this thread.

Just remember the following: as long as """people"""" like her are allowed to express themselves and not immediately executed facing the wall, your fertility rate will never recover.
Don't worry Abdul is gonna take care of your country after you die out.

>>514783084 (OP)
So why is the birth rate declining in several European countries where all these cost and "unequal distribution of labor in the home" does not exist or is mitigated as much as possible?

>>514793847
Why is the birth rate so good in Afghanistan where people are starving in the streets? Lack of feminism.

Birth rates are perfectly inversely correlated with women's years in education.

My biggest curse in life is not being born 50 years later to see the collapse of this gay ass feminist dystopia. Literally drowned at the shore basically, the seethe on these people's faces as their garbage soiciety collapses would be hilarious.

>>514794034
>Birth rates are perfectly inversely correlated with women's years in education.
This seems to be the strongest correlations
The big question is, is there any country that had low brith-rates who were able to fix them and get above 2,1 kids per woman who did not roll back womens rights and privligaes?
Cause i feel like such a country does not exist, many countries have tried increasing birth-rates, mostly the results have been marginal
So maybe its not just a correlation, maybe its a causation
I dont know im not a science guy

>>514793627

SAFE-&-EFFECTIVE!

>>514783084 (OP)
>patriarchy

>>514783084 (OP)
Female arguments are so stupid, it really is pointless trying to argue with them.

>>514783084 (OP)
WOMEN ARE ALL ON MOTHERFUCKING BIRTH CONTROL IT'S NOT A FUCKING MYSTERY WHY

>>514783084 (OP)
The actual things explaining low birthrates:
1. Girls' education
2. Equality
3. Contraceptives

>>514783084 (OP)
>if your "why is the birthrate decreasing" story doesn't talk about the experimental gene therapy we convinced retards to take from 2021-2022 its not a good "why is the birthrate decreasing story"

>>514794966
4. Atheism

>>514783084 (OP)
Ahh on the right track until her old jewish programing of man bad blinds her from the fact that it was all a ploy to make her from a women into an economic cog unit.

>>514794258
Orthodox Jews are the exception to pretty much every rule about reproduction rates. It's really odd how that particular group is somehow exempt. Not even other Jewish groups are able to fend off social impacts on their birth rates. Put a bunch of Orthodox Jews into any environment, urban or rural, take away most of their money or give them lots of money, and they still reproduce like rabbits.

>>514785135
Europe and the US were patriarchal until the 20th century. You don't need islam for that.

>>514783203
Are you functionally retarded or trolling?

>>514793036
Feminists claim that some tribes in West Africa are patriarchal. Maybe they should go there? There is also an all woman village in Kenya. Maybe they should go there?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umoja,_Kenya

>>514795938
*some tribes in West Africa are matriarchal

>>514795610
Dont know much about Orthodox jews anon to be honest
Maybe its some deeply held religious beliefs that are doing an impact

>>514783084 (OP)
Scratch off the last 2 you faggot and im on board.

Why are you retarded niggers saying birth control?
>DURRRRR THE REASON I HAVE NO CAR IS CUZ I HAVE NO MONEY
Yeah why don't you have money?

You all literally worship women lmao "omg ah geez, there must be some super complex factors to override womens overwhelming selfless instinct to be housewives and ruin their bodies, which totally exists btw trust me bro"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>514783084 (OP)
>patriarchy stopped women having babies
Right that is why every society in the past 50000 years had a negative birth rate until feminism right? Oh wait

>>514783084 (OP)
> the reason why birthrate is dropping?
>> PATRICHARCHY!
so what did we then have the last 2000 years?

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that's op btw
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all those threads are made every single days by a criminal organization paid to abuse the 4chan.org platform and the 4chan LLC Community ownership protect help and enforce that group spam.
They're breaking the Cyberstalking and Harassment US Federal Laws.
They're provably profiting financially from that group spam.
The spam is targeting a vulnerable subsection of the 4chan.org user base.

>>514783084 (OP)
WTF does patriarchy have to do with any of what she said???

>>514783084 (OP)
The patriarchy seems to be what may have been the birthrate high.

Unequal distribution of labor in the home? Wtf, like women need to actually work more and men need to work less?

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here's their spam right now I don't doubt even one sec there's more
that criminal organization flood /pol/ with spam everyday since 2023 with the help of the 4chan ownership and moderation
they're behind several mass murders and killing
when is the FBI And CFIX going to arrest the 4chan Community LLC ownership for being criminal abusing their platform?

>>514783084 (OP)
Lazy bitch, if she can tweet, she can do the fucking dishes

>>514783084 (OP)
The matriarch of a cat colony is speaking, listen & learn

>>514783203
first post faggot post

Europe does not need more people, we have seen great loss of human life many times over our history and we've been fine regardless. Europe with 300 million white people is objectively better than Europe with 200 million white people and 2 billion africans/indians/arabs.

>>514783213
Unironically, based

>>514783084 (OP)
This is what a queef looks like when you type it out.

>>514783084 (OP)
these conversations stop when the jews leave the room

>>514783084 (OP)
they had a decent point until 'muh patriarchy' then i stopped listening.

no one cares about your genitals, really.

>>514783213
Are you a retarded Muslim?
I hope a Jew kills you soon.

>>514783084 (OP)
>>514783203
>>514783213
She is right until Patriarchy, which is in fact the solution. We live in Matriarchy.

>>514795610
So are the Amish (6+ babies per woman). Likely most religious communities which know to keep their women to the only productive work a woman can partake in, which is childbirth.

In Canada, broke ass single moms get $650 per child for the first 6 years of its life. Pop out 5 kids and she makes $3,250 completely tax-free (some incel slaving away at minimum wage makes $2,000 after taxes kek). Cash is being thrown at new moms and it still isn't enough for them to decide to have babies. Modern women don't want to take care of babies, breastfeed, cook, or clean.

He's right. All those high birthrate countries in Africa, SE Asia and Middle East have free college, abundant housing, gender equality, and a strong middle class.

>>514785135
Based.