Thread 514797825

Really gets the noggin' nogging

Because when other countries vote that food is a human right, they're saying the US is obligated to feed them

instead of declaring a right to food we should declare a right to immortality
that way we won't even need food because nobody will have to eat

>>514797825 (OP)
Who are the other 4 countries that didn't vote?

Anywho, fuck authoritarians.

>>514797825 (OP)
it isn't. Only societies who provide for themselves should have the privilege to eat.
I'm not feeding no fucking darkie nigger, would unironically rather burn the money.

>>514797825 (OP)
If food and housing were human rights I would never work. I would just make useless websites, write about philosophy and politics, and shitpost all day.

>>514797825 (OP)
Let's start by making water free in restaurants. Europe's reply: Crickets.

>>514797825 (OP)

As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market-Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

...

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew,
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four—
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man—
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began:—
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

The full poem is absolutely worth a read, and is some of Kipling's best work: The_Gods_of_the_Copybook_Headings

>>514797825 (OP)
You LITERALLY cannot have a right to a service that someone else has to provide.

Its like saying everyone has a right to their own personal Sun

>>514798735
retarded analogy.

>>514798650
That's why you're a subhuman nigger.

>>514797825 (OP)
aren't we one of the largest exporters of food? Isn't our entire relationship with japan and taiwan based on us feeding them? I actually don't know just, seem to remember that's how shit works.

>>514798732

4chinz broke my link, but just search for The Gods of the Copybook Headings by Kipling

>>514798826
>flag
hypocrite

>>514797942
This. I don't see the other countries making a pact to feed the world. They don't need the US if they all band together to feed the poor.

>>514797825 (OP)
pussy a human right when?

>>514797825 (OP)
Food can't be a right, it's a resource. You aren't entitled to the labor of others.

>>514797825 (OP)
We make all the food so the world is voting for the right to all our food.

>>514797825 (OP)
You don't have the "right" to other people's labor, commie scum.

>>514797825 (OP)
Cool. I love codifying slavery under the guise of "human rights."

>>514797825 (OP)
The idea is to make it some kind of violation for international corporations to do things like owning all the food production in a country or continuing to export food during famines.

Monsanto and similar firms make a lot of money by taking over the food production of a country in various ways. When any local action is taken to do something about this, the country gets sanctioned for violating international business arrangements.

>>514799181
>The idea is
you know niggers and commies will just twist it into
>I have to right to eat for free
as niggers and commies do

>>514798893
I am a proud owner and a landlord with 100000k in investments and gold.
The vast majority I've inhereted.
I don't need to work.
I still do.
Because I'm not a nigger like you who says there's a certainty he turns into a nigger the mooment he doesn't have to work for food.
You are inferior to me.

>>514799181
>sell your farmland and food rights
>don't have food
This is like selling your people into slavery and then whining to the UN to save you from slavery.
Maybe countries that are whining about it can send their own food. Oh wait, that won't work because those countries will just make more short sighted decisions.
Let's just make the whole world brown people proof and make everything free to protect them from the consequences of their own actions, until they multiply enough to drain all the resources.

Nothing that requires the labor of another is a human right.

>>514797825 (OP)
Cuz we produce shitloads of food and u want it for free
We already provide mad aid
Not that it usually helps

>>514799422
oh no some poopygeese guy thinks he's better than me.

Imagine an image making the USA and Israel look good. This is what you've posted

>>514797825 (OP)
America sends the most food aid already and by quite a lot actually. Like all of Europe combined times two a lot.
But gotta give it up to euro fags to never follow though with their beliefs

>>514799624
>I would just make useless websites, write about philosophy and politics, and shitpost all day.
>think

>>514799727
jealous much?

>>514799686
too bad the only image that would make bulgaria look good is a nuclear crater

>>514797825 (OP)
Wow.
EVEN North Korea voted in favour. That tells a lot about society.

>>514797825 (OP)
Yeah, because we're the ones everyone would expect to pay for the food ans farm it and use the military to deliver it.

>>514798800
I have a right to an enchelada.

Go get it for me faggit

>>514797825 (OP)
>Yes it's a right!
>*Proceed to feed the world with insect flour.*
Really nigga?

>>514797825 (OP)
guess which of those two countries feeds the entire world?

>>514797942
No. They are trying to argue that Monsanto should not own all the seeds and outlaw unregistered seeds. They are arguing that they should be able to grow their own food instead of be forced into IMF generated debt slavery requiring them to transfer production away from local food towards whatever bullshit widget the US wants them to produce so the financial system and silicon valley can scrape the cream off the top. They want to depend LESS on US food and more on local production.

The US doesn’t want to make food a right because then a sovereign nation could argue against IMF austerity terms, which will harm US corporate interests. Israel doesn’t want to make food a right because then they can’t genocide Gaza.

>>514797942
Exactly. Woah you mean some shithole African country filled with 60IQ barely sentient retards demands that the US feeds them? That's crazy...

>>514800278
Yes. And those other nations would like to be able to feed themselves. The US doesn’t want this.

>>514800208
no you.

>>514798448
Isle of men, Luxembourg, Vatican and Transnitria

>>514797825 (OP)
Glad all the African countries voted for themselves to get free food to continue their unsustainable population growth

>>514800378
It always surprises me how people on 4chan seem to be able understand the threat of the global banker elite, but utterly unable to see exactly how that elite wields its power.

I’m referring to you, btw

>>514797825 (OP)
You can't make something a right that forces others to work for you to have access to that right. I'm sorry but the world is cruel. This last century has been the kindest ever to disabled and niggers as far as food goes.

They're the same country. Food is a human right, not a dumb goyim right.

>>514799801
Ignore him he's from Spains vassal which is already the most forgotten western European nation. Spain, much less Portugal, contributes shit to the world. They caused mexicans.
The Portuguese currency with the boats is kinda sick tho ill give em that

>>514800502
You go work to grow food for everyone in the world then let me know how that works out for you.

>>514797825 (OP)
If the United States and Israel would disappear tomorrow we would have instant and perpetual global peace.. also the Uk should vanish

>>514800601
There is no such thing as a human right. Stop being gay.

How do you make food a right?
Does this mean that companies are not allowed to close store in nigger infested areas after they got robbed a hundred times with police not giving a fuck?
Does this mean the state has to feed niggers from YOUR taxpayer money?

>>514797825 (OP)
Positive rights vs negative rights. Only negative rights (such and such shall not be done) are universally enforceable.
Otherwise, say food is a right, that means that humanity is obliged to make sure there is food for anyone, anywhere, anytime, at other's expense. It's unworkable and immoral.

>>514799816
Moroccan hands typed this post

>>514797825 (OP)
>the world voted that the US has to pay for more of our stuff
pass

>>514797825 (OP)
Stop feeding browns so they create more browns that need more food.
Also, stop feeding libtards and jews

>>514799428

If it's like anything to do with slavery it's like the people who were sold asking for help.

Earlier governments sold people into slavery, specifically debt slavery in the capitalist world system, and current governments are figuring out that this was not even a good deal for the elites of the country that did it. The people who did the selling aren't involved anymore, and they're only a fraction of a percent compared to the people who were sold.

>>514800337
Was that what the resolution said? Or is that your headcanon?

>>514798800
It was a bad analogy but poster is correct. A right to a product or service is slavery for another.

>>514799015
Eh, there's a right to an attorney if you're destitute. It's not a stretch to say a government should be obligated to provide basic sustenance in the event of poverty. Kind of pointless though, as any government will do that by default if it can and doesn't want to fall.

>>514801276
No, in the UN vote, it's very much the same governments who sold their shit asking to get it back for free.

>>514800337
Found the commie.

>>514801289
When you try to destroy a resolution for food justice one thing you can do is load it up with more wishful demands so it won't get passed. And then if it ever does get passed they can try and make sure Monsanto will get the contract to actually provide food security, so they can continue their current policies.

The basic core of this whole 'food is a right' movement is a reaction against Monsanto and similar companies and how they've fucked us all over when it comes to food production for decades.

>>514801591
Which shit did they sell? These are all democracies who have some kind of right to sell peoples shit on their behalf?

>>514801714
If you support one unelected corporation to control access to food for most of the planet, isn't that communism? Certainly when I hear people criticize communism they say they're concerned that some agency like this will come into existence. But when you oppose the one that does exist, you're also communist?

>>514797825 (OP)
Good. Stop feeding Africans.

>>514801435
Eh, right to an attorney is evening the playing field in a system governments themselves created. If governments have the money to pay judges and prosecutors, they should have money to pay for your defense. If the court system collapses it's moot. I see it as protection, a right to not get absolutely steamrolled in court by throwing money at you and making the courts too complex to navigate.
If the court system collapses and governments no longer have resources for it, it becomes moot. Meanwhile if the food system collapses, you still need food but it's not going to manifest out of thin air.

>>514801852
>If you support one unelected corporation to control access to food for most of the planet, isn't that communism?
No, this is based and redpilled capitalism because this corporation is dedicated to hoarding resources in order to maximize profits. Commies want to stop this.

>>514801952
What if a corporation is doing it's best to make sure that it's impossible for you to make your own food? And it's succeeded in doing this in most of the world? Should we just wait and see if that system collapses?

>>514802119
Cool. Some assholes who bribe and blackmail governments to favor and subsidize them to fuck over regular farmers so you have to pay orders of magnitude more for your food is based and redpilled.

What would be the term we should use if we think people should be able to grow and sell their own food without permission from these assholes? You're saying it's 'communism'?

>>514801289
Did the resolution say the US would be forced to provide? Or is that your headcanon?

>>514802256
>Some assholes who bribe and blackmail governments to favor and subsidize them to fuck over regular farmers so you have to pay orders of magnitude more for your food is based and redpilled.
Yes, capitalism is a good system.
>people should be able to grow and sell their own food without permission from these assholes?
Workers owning the means of production is literally communism.

>>514801762
>Which shit did they sell?
As I mentioned, farm land and food rights.
I would venture to say that every country on earth has government controlled land they can sell as farm land and food rights they can sell. It's not necessarily owned by other people. If they sold other people's land or food rights people were already using without compensation, that's a different story.
You have a case for misrepresentation of the populous in government. I would be much more inclined to accept the right of people not to be misrepresented by government. Right to a resource that is not always going to be available makes no sense.
>>514802256
>What if a corporation is doing it's best to make sure that it's impossible for you to make your own food?
I would question how they obtained those rights and why the government is failing to take them back. I would rather do that than make some kind of nebulous right to a resource that is not always going to be available.
I'm not saying you shouldn't have access to food, I'm just pointing out how this is doing it in a way that attacks a symptom of a deeper problem of corruption and ineptitude in government, probably isn't going to solve anything, and in fact is probably going to create more problems.

>>514802494
>Workers owning the means of production is literally communism.

Small businesses and generational farming is communism OK.

>>514802698
They sold other peoples farm land and food rights though. The government imposes taxes on farmers so they have to sell up, and then they subsidize the farming corporations that move in. This 'proves' that big farming corporations are more efficient, since they were able to survive in this 'free market'.

>I would question how they obtained those rights and why the government is failing to take them back. I would rather do that than make some kind of nebulous right to a resource that is not always going to be available.

When governments try to take them back, the first thing is the opposition is funded to win elections, the second thing is they get bribed or blackmailed to not do it, the third thing is targeted assassinations, and the fourth thing is the country gets invaded. This is obvious enough now that there is at least some kind of unified movement to sidestep it and tackle the issue at the core.

>I'm not saying you shouldn't have access to food, I'm just pointing out how this is doing it in a way that attacks a symptom of a deeper problem of corruption and ineptitude in government, probably isn't going to solve anything, and in fact is probably going to create more problems.
You are saying Monsanto or similar should control who has access to it.

>>514797825 (OP)
>you have to feed niggers like a slave its their right
Time to genuinely thank Israel for something.

>>514800412
i want one too. it's my right as a human so get to it you retard.

>>514798735
I have a right to the sun.
I know the guy that built it.

>>514797825 (OP)
Kongo's like
> what is food?
Gotta respect them for abstaining on issues they don't understand.

things that are not human rights:
food
housing
education

things you can get if you work:
food
housing
education

okay? hope liberals understand this going f orward...

>>514797825 (OP)
>it's our human right to demand your food

>>514797825 (OP)
evil empire

>>514803312
So what happens when your right/privilege to work and get food, housing, and education is under attack?

People will say it's fine to destroy those things or jack up prices, because you don't have a 'right' to them, but they do have a 'right' to set whatever prices they like once they've already gained control over them. And then the response will use language like 'we DO have a right to them' since the initial attack was framed as 'we DO have a right to control them'.

>>514797825 (OP)
Is this what /pol/ has been reduced to? Reposting low-effort slop from Xitter? Grim

>>514802993
>When governments try to take them back, the first thing is the opposition is funded to win elections, the second thing is they get bribed or blackmailed to not do it, the third thing is targeted assassinations, and the fourth thing is the country gets invaded. This is obvious enough now that there is at least some kind of unified movement to sidestep it and tackle the issue at the core.
Again I support people's rights to be represented by their governments, that means I would support anything that allows for getting money and foreign influences out of politics.
This even means that I would support any means necessary to get Monsanto out of any countries they've effectively taken over and remove any governments that are denying people their food.
What I don't support is right to a resource that's not always available, not because I don't believe it would be nice, but because I believe it's literally impossible to provide that resource sometimes and it will cause complications, including justification of depriving others of their liberties.
>You are saying Monsanto or similar should control who has access to it.
This is just reductive. What do you hope to achieve by misrepresenting and trivializing everything I've said? I'm sure you believe this is what I'm effectively saying but this is just refusing to engage on any of the finer points I've said and aggressively reiterating your point. You won't convince anyone by doing this.

>>514797825 (OP)

stop feeding the third world holy fuck get rid of the fecaloids

>>514803471
this doesnt happen under capitalism...free market will keep prices down like they always have

>>514803519
It’s all brown retards and Redditor trite high school bullshit and it’s so tiresome

>>514797825 (OP)
>you HAVE TO PAY TO FEED NIGGERS
God will these people ever shut the fuck up and get over their bullshit? Why are so many men woman-brained like this that they think food falls from the fucking heavens with no WORK put in?

>>514798691
I swear to god if they give me side eye when i ask for ice cubes one more time i will send my extended family there instead of america. Just cuz im a brahmin BVLL u ytoids think i dont deserve a cool coca cola?!

>>514797825 (OP)
>countries that rely on food imports vote in favor of making food a human right
Who pays for it?

>>514803613
>What I don't support is right to a resource that's not always available, not because I don't believe it would be nice, but because I believe it's literally impossible to provide that resource sometimes and it will cause complications, including justification of depriving others of their liberties.
The reason the language used is 'rights' is because the language used to destroy local food production was that people had a 'right' to buy every essential element.

What they WANT is to have the opportunity to grow their own food. They lost this because their governments and the international community supported the 'right' to buy every essential element of growing food out from under them. Even when it was very clearly the result of governments being paid off to undermine local farmers, this was all put down to 'bad governance' or even farmers being too stupid to stay ahead of it, but the right to keep owning these ill-gotten gains was upheld as beyond reproach.

>>514803787
It happens under the thing that people keep calling capitalism. Any attempt to either actually get a 'free market' or to improve the allocation that is being decided by big corporations is called 'communism'.

>>514800337
Except that isn’t happening at all, you embarrassing fucking retard.

>>514801435
You are a fucking dumbass. The right to an attorney is a LIMITATION ON THE GOVERNMENT. If you can’t understand this there is no hope for you, stop thinking about politics and become a die hard niggerball fan.

>>514797942
fpbp
but sadly finland sends billions to niggers every year

>>514802710
>2002
Outdated, but the majority still held true when the UN vote happened.

>>514797942
this
every fucking vote is like
>vote to give everybody a FREE puppy and kitten
>(to be supplied by the US taxpayer)
thanks to Israel for siding with us on this, u a real one

>>514797825 (OP)

Like, why are faggots such faggots?

Maybe you want to feed the homeboys in the ghetto rather than not but when there's droughts in Africa maybe you have to accept that that's how things are sometimes and maybe you want to mitigate problems where it makes sense and is workable but mostly I'd rather see a focus on giving young men a stake in the system before things get out of hand

>>514801591

It is a stretch because the government has infinity lawyers but does not have and cannot supply infinity food in the event that it's even an issue and agricultural collectivization has never historically gone well

>>514800337

Then why don't they fucking say that instead of gibsmedat?

Because when people say healthcare is a human right they typically construe that to mean the gubmint gibs faggots gibs until the end of time instead of anyone shoud be allowed to call themselves a doctor and practice medicine if they want to and caveat emptor since it couldn't ever be any worse than what w have now

>>514797825 (OP)
Can't those 186 countries make it a right in their own countries? Or will it not work without another country feeding them?

>>514800736

Time enough for peace in the grave

Do they need all members to agree?

>>514797825 (OP)
USA accounts for 60% of all the world's food.
Making food a human right means USA would just be forced to farm for every other country.

That's not how things work, bootlickers better start growing their own food.

>>514798448
They covered them up with the Israel flag

>>514797825 (OP)
Yeah we suck but the un also sucks and doesn't do anything anyway.

>>514802283

Since no one can agree on what the resolution even means it should be rejected on general principle

>>514802698

So you're arguing for agricultural collectivization as a bullwark against famine?

Nigger, read a book

>>514808876
Yep, the U.S. has veto power. It’s why Palestine never became an official country because the U.S. vetoed the motion when the majority of countries agreed to it.

>>514803312

Work only covers food, not housing, education, or heatlh care and that's IF you have a job

>>514797825 (OP)
Greatest allies

>>514797825 (OP)
It’s fucking based and I’m tired of pretending it’s not based to say that niggers don’t have a right to free food.

Keyword for dumbasses here

>means for its procurement

The main purpose of this resolution was targeting monsantos global monopoly on seed crops. Fun fact, you are NOT allowed to replant seeds purchased from Monsanto, they can and will prosecute you and raked in millions doing so. Monsantos agreement also says you agree to their contract simply by opening a bag of their seeds. Not that specific bag, ANY bags at any time and it’s retroactive.

If you don't work you don't eat.

>>514809243

The UN is so cringe it makes the League of Nations look like Mount Olympus

>>514797825 (OP)
Who pays for it and how much and what quality?

>>514809472

The main purpose for the 2nd amendment was making sure everyone had the means to fight back against the government and yet here we are

>>514797942
>food is a human right
>american taxpayer money is MY HUMAN RIGHT
first post best post.

>>514809490
Letfitsts can't understand the simple truth behind this statement.
You couldn't put the most basic notions of economy in their heads if your life depended on it.

>>514809233
No I'm advocating for governments that represent the needs and desires of their constituents. That does not include agricultural collectivization unless if it's the will of the people, I would argue to be truly fair it would have to be optional and voluntary.
Not sure where you got this from or if you're responding to the wrong person.

>>514797825 (OP)
The US pays for all the charity in the world and we’re sick of it
Jews just want everyone dead.

>>514809849
Have you ever worked around leftists.
They literally can’t work.
They are the elites that require others to work for them. Narcissistic, entitled they would starve if they weren’t hand feed.

>>514811757
>>514809849
It's always left or right, black or white, no grey.
The cognitive dissonance and lack of self-awareness from you miggers is astonishing.

>>514797825 (OP)
I'm trying to understand how this would even be logistically possible. Are the governments going to be paying for the increasing costs of fertilizer? Are all farmers now under their own respective government payroll? Can I walk into a grocery store and leave without paying? How will grocery stores stay open if food is a human right?

>>514797942
Americans could already feed every single person on the planet without doing anything extra, but they prefer to throw their surplus food in the trash or play with it like overgrown babies

>>514812239
>"Dude, this is heckin' morally grey!"