Thread 514805273

The Democrats can take this one to court and fight it. I'm all for more legal precedents that support the 2a

>>514805273 (OP)
Why not just ban guns for everyone? You dont need a gun.

>>514805273 (OP)
How is selectively banning an entire group of Americans from owning firearms "Pro Second Amendment?" Do you not realize they'll just keep expanding the groups that can't own them until you're one of them if this passes?

troons ARE mentally ill they deserve gun bans

Why not ban niggers from owning them too?

>>514805372
And you don't need to be a cuck faggot, but here you are.

>>514805273 (OP)
>to prevent mentally unstable individuals
poltards on suicide watch

>>514805372
You don't need one. I won't fight for your rights. Do it yourself.

>>514805273 (OP)
Kek. Troons lose again!

>>514805372
>don't need a gun
Jewish hands typed this.

>>514805273 (OP)
Makes perfect sense. We shouldn’t give guns to anyone with a known, severe psychiatric disorder.

/pol/ loves red flag laws and bump stock bans

>>514805497
Republicans have been fighting red flag laws for years

Based poos next
https://youtube.com/shorts/PMOm1PVNlos?feature=share

Reminder that Trump has passed more anti-gun legislation than Biden and Obama combine

Nope not for it. I don't really care if crazies have weapons, because the moment they make it illegal for crazies to have weapons then everyone will be crazy.
>>514805372
go back, or rather stay wherever you are and rot

There is no real way to word that law that wouldn't allow the government to basically take anyone's guns
It would be a federal red flag law and they would also link that with their supposed crackdown on "antisemitism" once they also call that a mental disorder

In an ideal world, only normal cisgendered white men would be allowed to own and use guns, but since we live in a jewish world that seek to ban guns outright for everyone, I cannot support a troon gun ban cuz jewish lawyers will use such a legal precedent to slowly crawl towards a total gun ban.

>>514805416
They have been doing that anyway. Pro gun groups have been fighting to keep their rights tooth and nail.

This won't stand up in court, but the troons and Democrats can spend their money and time on this particular one. And specifically "I" can't do anything, because I wouldn't have standing in court anyway.

Nice to see many japanese east asian men fuck blonde white women

>>514805416
We already have roadblocks in place for certain mental illness diagnoses that prevents them from passing the background check.
I imagine what he means is, adding trans to the mental illness list.
Which, like, I agree that its a mental illness - but idk that its one that's so inherently dangerous that anyone with it should be prohibited from owning a gun.

>>514805273 (OP)
>I can't legally sell you a gun if you're trans, do you like cock?
>no
>alright here's your AR15 for school

>>514805590
Because they are a trojan horse to broader restrictions. It's a shame neither party cares half as much about protecting the 1A

>>514805273 (OP)
Hey, let’s not jump the line. There’s tens of thousands of school shooter phenotype anons they need to red flag before they get to that point.

>>514805590
>>514805769
democraps will fight this in court. if they win, they set the legal precedent that would make it harder for them to take guns when they're in power. it's a beautiful lose lose for them

>>514805902
>Do you like "your" cock?
Fixed.

>>514806014
Nope, just troons. You lost, tranny :)

>"We can take guns from the mentally ill"
>Next president comes in
>"Anyone who voted for my opponent is mentally ill"
Interesting

>>514806037
That's what I'm saying.

>>514805273 (OP)
>democrats forced to choose between supporting transgender rights or anti-gun measures

They'll choose the first because primarily their identity is to oppose whatever the republicans want whether it be public safety, a secure border, fiscal responsibility, etc.

He just needs to mention suicide to make Democrats look ridiculous arguing to make it easier for trans to kill themselves.

>>514805416
Felons are already banned. Why shouldn't the mentally ill, considering their overrepresentation in mass shootings? If you are going to shill for trannies at least try to make sense

>>514806065
Kek

You know that when the federal government passes shit they know is unconstitutional it is your tax dollars that go to the lawyers to fight the challenges?
Trump is the biggest kike lover on planet earth he is just funneling your tax dollars to lawyers for losing cases

Rightoids get real uncomfortable about guns when the wrong people have them

It won't be long before a tranny shoots up another school and Democrat supporters start bragging that they can still get hold of guns, at which point it's check mate.

>>514806037
They’ll fight it as discrimination based on sexual orientation not 2A violations. Now more legal precedent for protecting trans folks. Get better at 4d chess maga

>>514806296
Yes Reagan banned people from walking around with loaded rifles in response to the blacks doing it. We know.

the rainbow flag for the LGBTQ political movement needs to be treated like the Confederate flag

>>514806468
That'll lose. Gender dysphoria is on the medical books

>>514806014
Not really. The school shooter phenotype de jure is the tranny. Before that it was the social reject male (or goth kid). Before that the deranged psychopath.

>>514806125
Antisemitism is a mental illness

>>514806272
They'll consider everyone under 80iq to be mentally ill too, then they can legally ban you too, dumb jeet fuck

>>514806724
It would still be unconstitutional to ban all blacks from owning guns

>>514805273 (OP)

Miga crave jew cock, and troon out when the ear da list, no guns for yall miga

>>514806468
>trans folks
did you get lost on your way to reddit?

>>514806645
>de jure
du jour
>social reject male
vast majority of mass shootings are still (You) guys, I’m afraid

>>514805372
Found the guy I need a gun for

>>514805273 (OP)
>>514805416
>>514805423
>>514805473
>>514805497
>>514805590
Most mass shooters are cisgender. Only around 0.11% are trans. And trannies are about 1% of the population. This means they are underepresented in mass violence.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/majority-of-us-mass-shooters-are-cis-men-not-transgender-or-non-binary-people-idUSL1N363273/
https://archive.is/afQqP

>Of those, “the number of known suspects in mass shootings which are trans is under 10 for the last decade,” which translated to “1:880 [or 0.11%] of the 4,400 shootings” they recorded, he said.


https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/

>>514806553
>The American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed it from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) in 2013

>>514805273 (OP)
>ban guns
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

>>514805372
Just because you want to sperg out after having your dick cut off doesn’t mean everyone else should have their rights taken away.

>>514805416
>Right wingers fighting for trans rights to bear arms
Did not expected for this to happen in 2025, to be quite honest.

>>514806978
Oh ok. It's not real. We can stop worrying about it then.

>>514806963
Has nothing to do with my post. My post is about Trump's declaration about taking gun rights from trans people. Has nothing to do with him being justified or not.

>>514805372
Because not everyone is mentally unstable and law abiding citizens must be able to defend against illegal gun owners. Simple as.

>>514806873
Thank you. Law fag here shitposting to fill the hour. The legalese flows from my thumbs more naturally than French.

>>514807148
Do blacks next

In the States mentally ill people are already banned from buying guns so this is just redundant. The problem is some people (Democrats/Liberals) don't acknowledge trooning out as a mental illness which it clearly is to anybody with functioning eye balls and a brain.

>>514805273 (OP)
>gun ban for transgenders
>prevent mentally unstable individuals from committing acts of violence
Daily Wire not giving a fuck

>>514805273 (OP)
>antisemitism is a mental illness
I see where this is going...

>>514806963
why not point out the real problem anon?

>>514807066
Anyone who can't see the writing on the wall here is in for a rude awakening

>>514805273 (OP)
schizos shoudln't own guns, that's pretty straightforward
troons always say that slippery slope argument is a fallacy, so consider it a fallacy here as well. They totally won't grab guns from everyone

>>514805416
Felons are already disqualified for gun ownership, many diagnosis of mental illnesses also disqualify you for owning a gun, and since being a trans-anything is an acknowledgement of having a mental illness that marks ones mind as extremely out of order it would by objective reasoning be a disqualifying factor as well

>>514805273 (OP)
What's the matter I thought Dems supported gun control.

>>514808231
There's always writing on the wall. Gun control never ends. But you can only fight for gun rights in court if you have standing. So if you want to be a troon, then you can be the guy.

>>514805273 (OP)
>mentally unstable individuals
Yeah, this totally isn't going to blow up in your face. Just wait until the definition of that gets expanded to being antisemetic under republicans then racist under the next democrat president.

>>514805273 (OP)
>protect troons and gun rights
>admit we have gun problems stemming from certain demographics just to dunk on the 2A
The left is gonna sweat when making this decision.

>>514805273 (OP)
Terrible idea. Not only is it unconstitutional, its the precedent the gun grabbers need to push even more draconian (((gun control)))

>>514805273 (OP)
oh vey, why stop at transgenders
should ban guns for anti-semites and nazis

>>514805416
yep, paid shills are attacking you

>>514805687
But the laws are already in place, Federal law prohibits the possession or purchase of firearms by certain individuals who have been adjudicated as mentally ill or involuntarily committed to a mental institution. As of January 1, 2024, 35 states and the District of Columbia have laws restricting access to firearms by individuals with specific histories of mental illness. It adds a specific thing, that of trans, which in effect is just gender dysphoria, to the lost that already includes schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, or anti social personality disorder.

>>514805273 (OP)
>trump issues red flag laws with flexible interpretation
>all antisemites fall under this interpretation
>maga jeets cheering
lmao

>>514805416
> How is selectively banning an entire group of Americans from owning firearms "Pro Second Amendment?"

Because the sign says red

Civilians should not own firearms.

You need to ban NRA and abolish second amendment.

>>514808231
I am not saying that it is not warranted. It is more that this turn of event is completely UNEXPECTED. If someone asked year or two ago, would not believe. But now here we are.

>>514805273 (OP)
The left should support this. After all, trannies don't NEED guns, right?

I told you trump would abolish freedom of speech and gun rights in these four years. The american empire has enforced this in all its provinces to protect jewish power. Now it's the homeland's turn.

>>514806724
I don't live in the US so it's literally not my problem. I wouldn't mind if you explained why you're having a hysterical gypsy spergout about it though

>>514806834
as we all know, criminals respect gun laws

>>514806272
Nice try chud but the DSM does not classify gender dysmorphia as a mental illness.

Let trannies keep their guns. If you take their gun rights away, they'll take everyone's guns away.

It was probably a false flag crafted to get conservatives to support a gun ban

>>514805273 (OP)
IQ test to own firearms next? We'll set the limit at 95IQ to guarantee 99% of spics and niggers can't exercise 2A rights.

>>514805273 (OP)
why do blacks get a pass for being mentally incompetent

>>514805416
the mentally ill are ALREADY banned from owning guns. They removed transgenderism from the list of mental illnesses, and courts wont enforce it on trannies because they’re full of activist kikes, so an EO is necessary to specifically ban trannies (TraNnies specifically, and trannies only) from owning them.

I won’t support it unless it’s sometbing the DOJ is going to do regardless. Then if they forcefully want it i’m just going to let them do it since they are eventually banning all our guns anyway one way or the other.

>>514805888
It’s definitely enough. They’ve killed scores of little kids now

>>514805754
That’s very true.

>>514806037
I agree 100%. It’s good bait. The left will lose a lot of face if they don’t fight it. And if they do fight it, they create for themselves yet another roadblock to banning guns for the rest of us.

>>514809935
no one cares that they largely kill other blacks, not even themselves

>>514809949
>Then if they forcefully want it i’m just going to let them do it since they are eventually banning all our guns anyway one way or the other.
So much for the right-wing cope that the Second Amendment is for standing up to government tyranny lol

>>514805273 (OP)
>>514805416
>Antisemitism is also a mental illness

What line do they have to cross before they get banned from guns?
Wearing make-up? Taking oestrogen/testosterone tablets? Watching anime? Having a tumblr account?

>>514808231
They’ve disarmed every other country on earth, they even require licensing and inspections for household clesning products that could be used to make black powder in some of the more jewish countries. Make no mistake they are wolves surrounding a lone village.

>>514805423
Only common sense take itt

>>514810115
I don’t consider banning troons as tyrannical. Also, guns make it much easier to deny an area to infantry than melee objects do, so I don’t know what this argument could even refer to.

>>514805423
They need an easy way to ACK
>>514805273 (OP)
Democrats are both anti gun and pro troon. How will they react?

>>514809592
It did once and it should again, though. Dysmorphia is literally a mental illness

>>514805273 (OP)
Na just expel the kikes

>>514810445
If the golems are allowed to control this case then they’ll tKe the bait and go to court. If the high echelon jews want sway over this they’ll likely let it memoryhole. Emotions are high so the upper kikes might not keep control over tbe rreaction

Next shooting it will be ban for straight white males if this passes. You are all goblins that like to hate on someone and celebrate this but troons are underepresented in shootings, so next time it will be a ban for you since gov will realize you are overrepresented.

>>514811178
Then straight white males will fight it in court like they have been doing all along.

>>514805273 (OP)
lol. Democrats have to support trannies or oppose guns.

>>514805273 (OP)
lmao this would be amazing

>>514805372
You lost, tranny. You missed and you lost.

Say it with me, chuds:
Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.

>>514805769
>Hurr durr it's really 4d chess
Or dems don't oppose it and it sets a precedent so they ban a bunch of populations from owning guns
>Sorry a Christian bombed an abortion clinic so Christians can't own guns
>Sorry a white male shot up a school so white men can't own guns

>>514805372
you dont need to be allowed to pretend to be a woman.

>>514810115
listen, if you want to lie to yourself its your God given right to but it is also our God given right to not fucking put up with your bullshit. if you dont need your dick you dont need a gun, simple as.

>>514805273 (OP)
So republicans want to ban guns now? Kek what an insane timeline

>>514805273 (OP)
>mentally unstable individuals
hmm why can't they just say people suffering from gender dysphoria
slippery slope that miggers will defend

>>514805273 (OP)
The law that keeps the mentally ill from owning firearms is already on the books amd had already survived numerous challenges.

>>514805372
Suck it up troon.

>>514805273 (OP)
>"actively considering a range of options to prevent mentally unstable individuals from committing acts of violence"
>Deliberates Over Gun Ban For Transgenders
Talk about a self report.

>>514808676
yeah this is exactly what will happen
its literally over for the muttoids

Conservatives are such hypocritical faggots

>>514805273 (OP)
If you ban troon guns then only criminal troons will have guns. This will eliminate good-troon-with-a-gun scenarios.

Cross-dressing is proof of mental illness. The mentally ill should not own guns. Red-flag every tranny, confiscate their guns and assault knives.

>>514806272
>>514805273 (OP)
antisemetism is considered a mental illiness

>>514805273 (OP)
you are a retard if you dont think trannies are mentally unstable

>>514805273 (OP)
I never thought I'd be fighting for trannies rights to own guns, but here we are
Fuck this orange nigger kike

>>514811372
And they'll lose in court just like they have been doing all along

>>514805273 (OP)
Fuck them extra laws, nigger

>>514817069
>The law that keeps the mentally ill from owning firearms is already on the books amd had already survived numerous challenges.
So have "assault weapon" bans. Doesn't mean they are constitutional.

>>514805416
Leftists should be banned from breathing. You don't need air. You're already braindead.

>>514806272
>Why shouldn't the mentally ill
Most Trump supporters would overwhelmingly lose their guns overnight

>>514817147
If you read the psychos journal he was considering shooting up a tranny furfag music gathering called doghouse but he was legitimately worried about a tranny having a “ Gucci Glock” shooting him. You may have a point

>>514817612
You think they've been losing in court? Which cases in the last year are you thinking of?

>>514805273 (OP)
>>514805372
>>514805416
This debate has already been had over and over and the conclusion is always the same. You can make a bomb out of very basic products that you buy from a store. You want them to have access to guns so they don't look for other ways. They tried regulating guns once and the mass killers fill up a van full of literal horse shit and blow up a building.

What about cars? Without access to a gun you know what they'll do? They'll fucking plow over a group of people with a Truck. Or how about poison? What if Muslims start giving the troons access to anthrax? How about arson? They are already planning to commit suicide after they do it. That means they could literally set a hotel on fire and block all the exists. Thats not even that hard to plan.

>>514805642
I AM A SINGLE-ISSUE VOTER: DESTROY TRANSGENDERISM AT ANY COST
I FUCKING VOTED FOR THIS

you ALREADY can't get guns if you're mentally ill.
this is just about making troons officially mentally ill and a by product is they can't get guns
no new laws are needed

>>514805416
Yeah, exactly. It's fucking stupid. Great precedent Trump, now they will ban you from owning guns if one time you got sad.

>>514818789
You can lie on those forms... it only matters when you get arrested. They don't require you to do a mental health evaluation to prove you can own one.

>>514805372
SHALL NOT (trans, gays and women shouldnt have rights to begin with)

>>514818939
This is mostly for people involuntarily committed for a mental breakdown or things like that. The latest tranny shooter had a mental health "visit" when he was a teenager but it probably wasn't actually followed up on because the mom was the one pushing him to be a tranny.
This shooting could've actually been prevent had gender dysmorphia been treated as the mental illness it is.

>>514805273 (OP)
It will be hilarious to see Democrats fight for gun rights.

>>514805416
Everyone is pre-trans. everyone with a brain knows this.
BYE,BYE GUNSIES!!!

>>514819114
We, even as a 2nd amendment society, understand that the mentally ill, who can't serve in a militia anyway, should NOT have guns.
Gender Dysphoria should be treated as the mental health crisis it is so these people get help.

>>514805273 (OP)
Y'know, first they ban troons, then they make you get a doctors signed paper to confirm you're not a troon, then they broaden the definition of troons so anyone can be called a troon (think about the gay spectre), and then you won't be able to get a gun.

>>514819653
Rooskie, these people go to doctors to get hormones, go to surgeons to mutilate themselves, and use legal procedures to change their names, they already do the things needed to distinguish themselves as insane.

>>514819531
>militia
It's the PEOPLE (not just MILITIA) who have the right to bear arms.

>>514819799
They are just #6 on the insane level, you post on the terrorist incel board, you will be #1 at the very least.

>>514805273 (OP)
If troons get their guns banned this will be used as pretext to eventually ban the troon equivlent of the right which is Nazi incels

>>514810098
Uh, dems don't use logical reasoning. They appeal to the feminine and the emotional.

They will twist it when they get back in power with, we wanted a blanket ban to protect our children, not singling out our brave transgenders. So we fought the Trump ban.

>>514819825
I'm aware, we still treat the mentally ill as if they're mentally ill and we're failing to HELP the people who have gender dysmorphia.
It's like we would allow actual schizos to get weapons while telling them their manic delusions are real

>>514805273 (OP)
>Ban trannies from second amendment rights
>Sets precent for
>Ban everyone with any declared "mental illness" from their right
>"Antisemitism is a mental illness!!!"
There is the sequence of events at play here.

Turnabout is fair play. Trannies need to start getting treated like the delusional, psychotic second-class citizens that they are.

>>514820179
precedent*

>>514805754
This

>>514808347
That just opens up the possibility of labeling any group "mentally ill" to take away their guns. And let's be completely honest, if there's one place where mentally ill people like to congregate, it's 4chan. How long until they say everyone who has used 4chan has to give up their guns?

>>514820179
shut up tranny you ARE mentally ill
you freaks did this with immigration saying they're going to deport citizens ffs

>>514805372
If you don’t that’s the slippery slope here then you’re a moron- can’t be a dictator if the citizens are allowed to carry

>trump is going to make demofats fight against gun control
lmao
Is this what they meant by "the parties switched platforms"?

>>514820104
>I want to HELP by removing the guns
And by removing all sharp objects and putting them in the care of a professional who is legally responsible for their safety?
>No just want to ban guns
of course.

>>514805416
They genuinely believe this cannot happen to them- you’re wasting your breath- let the show play out

>514820281
I know you think you'll get a click commission from me you faggot but your acting is bottom tier.

>>514805273 (OP)
>I'm all for more legal precedents that support the 2a
Unfortunately, this is opening the door for undermining the 2A and Constitution as a whole. As much as trannies shouldn't have guns, all it takes is one RINO or democrat to come in and do the same thing towards some group they don't approve of, and it rolls downhill from there.

>>514806481
You know this a glowiebait, right?

>>514820326
>And by removing all sharp objects and putting them in the care of a professional who is legally responsible for their safety?
They're mentally ill, they should be in mental institutions. I genuinely don't care about them getting guns but liberals are looking for a way to stop the mass shootings from trannys and that's an easy way (that they won't do btw).

>>514805273 (OP)
Its a trap! Dont fall for it! Once they are allowed to ban them, they'll keep extending who they ban from ownership until it encompasses anyone who expresses any dissatisfaction with any governmental policy.

DONT FALL FOR THE TRAP(in all cirumstances)

List of "mental illnesses":
>trannies
>antisemites and white racists
>anti-immigration people
>anti-government people
>neets
>

>>514806487
They are same as star of david.

>>514805273 (OP)
That sucks. If troons aren't free, no one is free.

>>514820497
>They're mentally ill, they should be in mental institutions. I genuinely don't care about them getting guns but liberals are looking for a way to stop the mass shootings from trannys and that's an easy way (that they won't do btw).
Hard to get into a gun store when you're locked in a room with just your grippy socks. Why are you really supporting what is clearly anti gun?

We're allowed to commit any crime we please as long as we're willing to suffer the consequences of doing so.

>>514820608
>>514820355
you DO think trannys are mentally ill though, right?

>>514820671
Obviously.
My point is they are giving you obvious bait.

>>514820617
So only the worst criminals will get them as tattoos in prison gangs like a swastika?

>>514820666
>>514820701
The mentally ill already can't get guns you stupid freaks.

>>514808231
Oh I can see the writing I just don't know what to do about it at this point. Que Sera, Sera.

>>514805273 (OP)
This is how they're trying to sneak in red flag laws, and makes me all the more suspect that last shooting as being a gayop. If they can set a precident that being trans means you're mentally unfit for your godgiven right to bear arms, then what about the dangerous antisemites? How do they even define who is trans if medical records are private? Its just an identity that they can give up at any time. If they took hormones or cut their dicks off, does the government know that? Do they just get unlimited access to all medical records now too? Miga fags will cheer for this because its satisfying to see trans fags get what they deserve, but its a very important fight to stop. Potentially the single greatest right now.

>>514820763
Being trans IS a mental illness.

>>514805273 (OP)
Beware: Slippery.

>>514805273 (OP)
I doubt this is anything. Standard politics where doing superficial motions to make headlines is more effective at earning voter approval than actually doing something. Doing something is hard and time consuming and the the voters dont understand how laws work anyway so they couldn't appreciate it even if it did happen. /pol/ is a very good example of this.

I dont think anything will happen because transgenders firmly have protection from laws that would treat them different than anyone else in line with the 14th amendment and civil rights act. And if regulation based on mental health could accomplish anything the Democrats would already set those laws in motion 40 years.

>But what about this and that. Trannies get this but I don't get his. I dont want trannies to get this but do want my team to have this. Everything is unfair.
If you want to know the intracies of US law ask an ai but you probably don't. See paragraph 1.

>>514820740
That's untrue.
It is temporarily banned for those that have been in an institution within 5 years.
They're trying to set a whole new precedent here, genius.
One dictated by the psychiatric industry. One that you can bet the ADL will be pulling hard on.

>>514820740
That's not even true. You have to be involuntarily committed to a mental institution. That is not the same thing as having a mental illness without ever having been committed.

>>514807066
Oh please, indulge the rights of owning youths in basements.

>>514818789
Nothing about being trans meets the criteria of you image, you illiterate freak.

>>514805273 (OP)
Slippery slope, but fuck it. Ban the Blacks also.

Its funny that others call trans people "mentally ill" but it isnt
In order for it to be mental illness it needs to cause you distress, which in almost every case it doesnt
Its like saying /pol/ posters that seethe at everything are mentally ill

>>514820740
>The mentally ill already can't get guns you stupid freaks.
As long as they haven't been "adjudicated as a mental defective OR have ever been committed to a mental institution", they actually can.

>>514805273 (OP)
good, trannies need to fuck off and die

>>514820848
>>514820859
>>514820896
Trannys are mentally ill, just because you faggots think it should be embraced and not treated is because you're faggots. Gender Dysmorphia is a mental illness and should be treated as one.
>>514821007
>t. mentally ill tranny

>>514821038
Ok fag

The 15pbtid is looking good, guys!

>>514821038
I'm not a tranny. I just support the Second Amendment, unlike you. Hell, red flag laws violate the 5th Amendment too. You don't even have to support the 2A to oppose them, you only need to support the 5A.

>514821038
Defining trannies as mentally ill does not, and should not, be attached to a slippery slope precedent that a corrupt, war-mongering government full of pedophiles will take advantage of.
Oh, and no click commission for you.

this is stupid because you can't prove someone is transgender. all the DIY trannies who smuggle and inject estrogen, they have no medical records or anything to prove they're trans. they will be able to buy guns just the same.

>>514821154
People that cant reply are so weak as people
How much of an actual pussy do you have to be, to not even talk man-to-man with another anon?
The fuck? How old are you? Thats some real insecure shit

>>514821181
>this is stupid because you can't prove someone is transgender.
Another potential slippery slope in this is they could try to attach it to estrogen levels(which are increased in younger generations due to the amount of poison in the food.
Or maybe they go by low T levels. Also afflicting younger generations.

>>514821008
>>514821121
>>514821089
Big pharma doesn't want gender dysphoria classified as a mental illness so they can keep profiting from it and jews don't want gender dysphoria classified as a mental illness so it can be popularized as a depopulation scheme.
You fell for a depopulation psyop you fucking freaks.
>>514821181
>they have no medical records or anything to prove they're trans
>memeflag

>>514817591
Kek this. The trump betrayal arc continues on full steam. I had big extreme doubts after his first term pardons and his awkwardness in talking about and showing his ear to joe rogan. The latter sort of proving it was fake and making it sound like the head of the beast that suffered a head wound that miraculously healed and caused the world to follow him.

I didn't think fags support gun ownership anyways

>>514821303
>Big pharma
Ignored
Your conspiracies aren't reality

Hey guys, if you have claustrophobia, that's a mental illness, as classified in the DSMV. Since you're a mentally ill claustrophobe (who I'm totally not obsessed with), then I support total gun control! Can't wait for RFK's antisemitism epidemic to get added too. MIGA!!

>>514821359
>>514817591
no one cares trannys, you lost and are mentally ill

I literally chuckle at how government niggers are still thinking it is business as usual.
You're done!
There's no going back!
Nothing you do is going to preserve your future.

>>514821406
>tranny support big pharma
no shit

>>514805416
The mentally ill shouldn't have access to weapons, if you have a mental illness that compels you to mutilate yourself or others you belong in a mental ward.

>>514821121
mentally ill people shouldn't own guns, would you give a 10 year old retard a a shotgun?

>>514821303
I can change my name and it doesn't mean i'm trans

>>514821494
>would you give a 10 year old retard a a shotgun?
Who gave you the gun, anon?

>>514821466
You should calm down, youre getting upset

>>514821478
>>514821494
this is only controversial to trannys and their cuck allies
>>514821503
his mom stated the reason for pushing her MINOR child into changing his name was being trans memeflaggot.
The mother should be charged with child abuse though desu. Munchaussen by proxy from mostly crazy women is killing people.
>>514821548
>t. ranny

>>514821494
10 year olds cant buy guns retard what the fuck kind of argument is that lel
Are you stupid, bubba? no write or read well but watch tv good right?

>>514805416
This isn’t an expansion at all. Mentally ill people were already banned

>>514821494
>would you give a 10 year old retard a a shotgun?
I learned to shoot before preschool and I post here so.....

>>514805273 (OP)
Common sense troon control is just common sense. It's time we got these senseless killing machines off our streets. The founding fathers never could have imagined today's high hormone tactical assault trannies. They need to be locked up and kept away from children.
All men are CREATED equal...

>>514805273 (OP)
>legitimizing trannys forever as an oppressed class
>further eroding gun rights to own the troons

and you’re all fucking clapping along

>>514821121
If you support the second amendment you should see how pushing the libNPCs who've been trying to dismantle the second amendment for decades to argue against their own work is a good strategic move

Give a retard a 1911.
He'll never figure out where the safety is anyways.

>>514821594
You cant hurt me anon, seems like all youre doing is hurting yourself. You should drink some water and calm yourself

>>514820268
Well it requires no expansion of the language or intent of the law that is already present. Thus this extrapolation that you theorize is irrelevant because it is already present as several mental disorders/illnesses already deny someone a gun if they have them, painting this as uniquely evil is a complete misrepresentation

It must happen and it’s staggering that mentally sick people who belong inside lunatic asylums where they cannot be used to harass and murder the sane havr access to firearms in the same way as mentally competent people do.
A good first step, they need committing or jailing. Not for THEIR treatment but rather for the protection of the sane from the mad. The mad will NEVER stop harassing the sane of their own free will because (dah) they are mad.
I really like the President he’s such a good egg.

>>514821625
>Mentally ill people were already banned
Its:
"Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?"
not "have you ever been mentally ill"

Dems will use this precedent to prohibit anyone who votes R from gun ownership. Way to go imbeciles, this is what you get when you chug Orange Blumpf cock.

I mean, we should give mentally ill people the right to guns.

Now, using those guns in a way that violated a Non Aggression Principle is a crime.

>>514821494
I'd give a gun to everybody. I don't view firearms through a lens of fear. I can't relate to your POV.

>>514820666
If only we could forcefully induct anyone into those now closed insane asylums instead of doing the simplest thing and realize if they call themselves trans then they are unfit

>>514821818
Same with republicans lock them up

>>514821594
>hello I'm no longer transgender, god bless America, I'll be having my gun now thank you
>goes home and injects hormones and continues being a tranny

it won't work anon, I'm sorry, there's no definite proof that someone is trans

>>514821007
41% of trans people die of suicide, you dont get those kinds of numbers if they dont show a pre disponsition to self harm like that if you are at all mentally sound

Anyone with a triple digit IQ should be asking themselves:
"Why are they trying to use this to justify a gun ban when they could just lock up trannies as mentally ill which would already ban them from owning guns?"
The laws are already there.
This isn't about safety or going after the mentally ill. It is PURELY about setting a precedent.

>>514821181
Well believing trans is an actual thing and claiming yourself as one is a mental illness, best described as gender dysphoria

>>514821731
Anon is too blinded by his autistic tranny hate fetish to understand basic words and ideas like that. "Mentally ill" is such a loaded term. The 4473 only prohibits those who weere forcibly locked up and declared a danger through some legal due process. People who just have occasional anxiety, fear of heights, gender dysphoria, or anything else outlined in the DSM are not disqualified from exercising their God given right to bear arms. Anyone shilling for the 2A to be neutered is a bootlicking goy cuck of the highest degree.

>>514821818
>If only we could put some group that I don't happen to like into confinement involuntarily...
Some might consider your nonsense to be signs of mental illness.

>>514820268
Not at all, just a mad group who are clearly out of their minds and are extremely dangerous. The manipulative pedophiles being labelled “trannies” have been responsible for mass murder after mass murder and are literally MAD.
>didun du nuffin
Except all that mad stuff. And all those murders. And all the never ending harassment.
>you can’t lock bank robbers in prison or anyone could be put in prison.
Yeah, more mad talk from the mad lad.

>>514805416
>How is selectively banning an entire group of Americans from owning firearms
You have to be human for human rights to apply to you. These things are humanoids, know the difference.

>>514821948
Well yeah people like you that spread so much hate, fear, and celebrate their deaths literally make it so they killed themselves
You add to the hostile world they are in and theyd rather not live in it, because of people like you
People like you arent a factor for distress, its the person themselves that is hence why it isnt a mental illness
Id say celebrating suicide is a mental illness

>>514821675
>>514821910
Trannys ARE mentally ill, they should be treated for their mental illness not encouraged to act out their mentally ill fantasies.

>>514821948
Lol he believes the 41% meme. I would ask for evidence but he will just try to shift the goalposts

>>514821647
Miggers don’t have the ability to see long term effects

>>514821647
They arent a class, but mentally ill people whose delusions are being encouraged and even further pushed onto kids by adherents to it being natural. They need serious psychiatric help or to be locked in a padded cell to stop hurting themselves and others

>>514822142
>not encouraged to act out their mentally ill fantasies.
Like locking others up and killing them/celebrating their suicides?

>>514822171
>liberals don't think trannys are mentally ill
oh my 4chan, that's breaking news

>>514822209
>I need to lock people up because im a s-s-s-cared of trannies!!!

>>514805416
If your a Marxist you're already a mental defective.

>>514822215
>>514822251
why can't you just admit your position? larping as if you don't think trannys are mentally ill is just silly and performative.
the problem with you liberals coming here to shill is that you don't argue your beliefs, you just pretend you fit in so you don't get mocked and laughed off the board. stand up for your positions you weakling.

>>514820354
I know but it is pretty depressing regardless

Here's more big-brained logic floating in here
>I hate trannies so much that we must disarm the trannies that mostly use guns to kill themselves!
We now have tofu-brained idiots advocating to save the trannies through gun control.

>>514822321
You can be evil all you want I dont care
I just know youre shit and not worth respect

>>514822209
>They arent a class

yeah and judaism is a religion AND an ethnicity right?

the inevitable pendulum swing is lining them up to deny YOUR gun rights claiming racism is a mental illness and we’ll just do this back and forth forever until only jews can own firearms

>>514808110
Hey Elliot Rodgers (Supreme Gentleman) was white!

It's another childish MIGA chud screeching that
>everything I don't like is mentally illness

Simple 5D shit posting from Trump.

Enforce the law because all trannies lie on the 4473
Force the Democrats to support guns along with killing the Gun Control Act of 1968.

>>514822148
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5649411/
Second paragraph, 3rd sentence.
That is the closest to an official report on the matter that you can get

>>514822371
>>514822375
>>514822411
men/women who think they can unironically be women/men just because they think so are genuinely mentally ill.
you understand that right? you support playing along with the delusions of a manic schizophrenic too?

>>514822036
Only nutters like you. You see the difference is you’re dressed in womens clothing, refusing to accept objective reality, doing mass murders, being a manipulative pedophile and harassing the sane.
You need to be committed. We don’t deserve this harassment, it’s abuse. Nobody should have to put up with you anyway and you are committing mass murder after mass murder and grooming the vulnerable for extremist violence with your never ending “incel” projection, searching the internet for victims to groom to use for mass shooting attacks.
You are not even careful about it because you are used to happily being used by political and financial corruption as s weapon against the people.
>I don’t accept that reality is real
You don’t have to accept it, what you do or do not accept is irrelevant just get in the padded cell you evil, twisted psycho.

Holy based! Libshits owned again. I voted for this.

>>514805273 (OP)

Thank you, Trump. Trans shouldn't have guns. They're unstable, and they're not fit for the military either. No guns for Trans. Democrats campaigned for this

>>514822471
Sea-lioning wont get you anywhere
You're getting gender mixed up with sex btw, theres a reason why theyre called trans but you no use brain good

>>514805416
Anyone wearing a red hat and bib and brace overalls is next.

>>514822417
They don't lie on the 4473 though, you obtuse dumb nigger. Holy shit, you fags cannot read. Fucking illiterate NIGGERS.

>>514822483
You had that whole imaginary conversation in your head? Wow.
Maybe you should alert mental health experts.

>514822471
Don't try to equate my calling you an idiot as advocating for trannies.
You morons are the ones trying to save trannies lives through more gun laws when the laws for the mentally ill are already in place.
Put them in an institution to break their conditioning.
They will then be disqualified from ownership.
Your problem = then solved.
But that's not really the "problem" you want to solve. ;D

>>514822534
>You're getting gender mixed up with sex btw
wow, I never saw it like that before. thanks anonymous liberal, I am now a proud ally of trans folx.

>>514822389
They had the "pendulum swing", the last several years of feeding into this lunacy has led to this. Ultimately they are mentally ill, because by their very nature they believe they are a different gender/sex and thus try to change it, however those are immutable characteristics that cannot be changed and only serves to fuel their delusions

>>514822572
They're men and they mark down that they are women.
That's a felony.

>>514805273 (OP)

>>514806071
You have to be over 18 to post here.

>>514820268
Exactly this. Just wait until MIGA retards declare "antisemitism" a mental illness.

>>514821614
adults that think like 10 year olds can still buy guns retard.

>>514822620
Actually reply, dont be a bitch

>>514822621
Only graduate from 7th grade?

>>514822525
>and they're not fit for the military either
anti gunners still confused about the word militia and compound sentences.
You go back to your anti gun roots with that comment.

" First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me "

Ignore the people used for examples, the point stands.

>514822681
Can you almost taste the click commission, nigger?
You need it don't you?

>>514822678
Yeah, the right-wing. We know bubba
Not the same as being ten btw, thats not a good argument

>>514805273 (OP)
>The Democrats can take this one to court and fight it. I'm all for more legal precedents that support the 2a

The way to do it is to define transsexuals as dangerous schizophrenics not to expand gun laws.

>>514822758
Your conspiracies arent reality
But whatever makes your feelings feel better

>>514822644
That isn't what occurs. They legally change their gender marker on their ID, following the requirements by their state. The information on the 4473 has to match their ID. If anything is off, it has to be corrected. Tell me you've never bought a gun before or worked at a gun store before.

>>514822681
It's fine.
>>514822672
>>514822719
you do know gender dysphoria is already a mental disorder though right? it's treatment is just what is controversial.
encouraging and promoting the delusion isn't the right way to go about it.

>>514805416
The problem with this thinking is that troons, felons, niggers, autists, and nut jobs have access to firearms. You might think your right to firearms cancels it out and you can defend yourself and everybody else has that right too but that’s not how it works. It might be a slippery slope or it might really be a way to disarm these nut jobs. I don’t think felons or troons or niggers should have access to guns. Your reasoning is “shall not be infringed” means that they should have access and if we start making exceptions they’ll make exceptions for everybody. But this way of thinking arms troons and niggers and gets lots of people killed so it’s a no bueno, I’d rather gamble with the slippery slope. Most of those who don’t agree probably fall within one of the above groups (felons, troons, niggers, retards, etc)

>>514822796
>The way to do it is to define transsexuals as dangerous schizophrenics not to expand gun laws.
EXACTLY
This has absolutely nothing to do with the issue. This is about disarming everyone they will later classify as mentally ill.

All you are doing is giving them the grounds to call everything mental illness.

Give mentally ill people guns.

>>514822741
motherfucker do you even live in america?

>514822841
I just replied to someone but not you.
How does that make you feel?

>>514822850
That's a felony. They're men and they're checking female.

The States individually might allow trannies to change their genders on their ID but the 4473 is a federal form. They don't recognize that.

>>514822880
you understand defining transsexuals as dangerous schizophrenics not to expand gun laws is what is being discussed right?

>>514822313
If you're mentally retarded and don't know the difference between your and you're, you should be banned from owning a gun

>>514805273 (OP)
just fucking repeal the gun-free schools bullshit, don't give the government more power

>>514822850
>>514822965
It's sort of like weed legalization. States allow it but if you're caught in Federal jurisdiction with it then your ass is grass.

>>514822965
Idiot. Enjoy your redneck headcanon or whatever.

>>514822932
I live in the nation formerly known as America.

>>514823036
No it's actually nothing like that. But go off, queen. Illiterate moron.

>514822975
>you understand defining transsexuals as dangerous schizophrenics not to expand gun laws is what is being discussed right?
Not true.
There is nothing to "discuss."
They are unable to differentiate reality from fantasy. Textbook insanity.

>>514805754
TRVKE
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>>514822866
>The problem with
The problem is you're trying to extend prison rules well beyond the walls of a prison. And you want all of us to live in that prison.

>>514822853
Gender dysphoria isnt the same as being trans
You want to think that way, but youd have to hate your gender for it to be dysphoria. Transitioning could be a way to alleviate that but sometimes not
You do know the recent tranny shooter hated being trans right? Thats gender dysphoria, they hated the gender they became and detransitioned
People can hate the gender they were born with (gender dysphoria) and transition to something theyre happy with (not gender dysphoria)

>>514823047
It's not headcannon. It's reality.
Your State encouraging your retardation made you all commit felonies without realizing it.

>>514822965
>The States individually might allow trannies to change their genders on their ID but the 4473 is a federal form. They don't recognize that.
Not many people purchasing guns have a federal ID....

It's cute to see people so worked up about this though.
It's not going to happen.
As soon as their masters got a little breathing room from genocide protests, and one sliver of a break in the Epstein situation, the puppets in the country got back to hoax shootings with politicized details to get you going at each other again.
And when they don't forge ahead and take your rights away, you will see it as victory.
So fucking blind.

>>514823218
The 4473 is a federal form, not State.
It's not your State government that's going to arrest you for lying on that form. Hopefully you just get a court summons and not an ATF raid.

>>514822795
keep defending trannies you faggot, I don't care.

>>514805273 (OP)
based. insane people shouldn't get guns

>>514822609
Give me your address and I will alert them. The men in white coats with the butterfly net will catch you in the end. First they’ll take your guns.

>>514822866
Your mistake is assuming the government will stop once they're done targeting the groups you dislike. That's never been the case.

>>514822224
I’m not a liberal

>>514823406
Ok

>Trump wins this and trannyism is grounds for mental illness restrictions
>Trump “loses” this and gun rights become even more inalienable
not bad

>>514822853
No shit. The point is psychiatry isn't a science. Homosexuality was considered a mental illness until they just *decided* it wasn't. Even then, politicians and their peons don't always align the "experts" for better or worse. Watch as they implement mental health screenings as a requirement to own a gun and suddenly you and 99% of /pol/ can't get guns because of your autism or "antisocial" behaviour evidenced by your shitposting.

>>514823395
>The 4473 is a federal form, not State.
So your reading comprehension is really bad.
Really really bad.
You are confusing the 4473 form with an ID.
Please find your tard handler to complete this conversation.

When all else fails
>Threaten to take away from the servants.
>They will fight amongst themselves.
>Then let them keep what was threatened.
>The servants will feel victorious and see you as the fair overlord willing to compromise.
Such an easy game.

>>514805273 (OP)
>Guns for mentally ill people.
Don´t you already have laws for that?

>>514823783
Yes but the troon obsessed think they’re taking one for the team by supporting an encroachment of their right own guns.

>I’m not crazy I’m just ‘genders’ and stuff, whatever i make up.
>…no wait maybe i am crazy?
>one second i have to talk to myself about this.

>>514823885
Nobody's obsessed, ‘troon, so stop doing the manipulative pedophile thing we all know it’s you. You’re projecting, harassing the sane again.
Dangerous.

>>514823930
There’s already a form of fucking treatment for it. Good job for giving away your constitutionally protected rights to privacy, self identification, and fucking gun ownership to dab on less than one percent of the population.

You can't dorn the dorner

>Hey you know who’s sane?
>Those troons are.
>Fellow fellows.
>yah wanna have some caaaaandy, kid?

>>514824106
Nobody is giving any rights away. You are mad.

>>514824211
>muh headcanon
Nigger, what part of shall not be infringed does your ass not understand?

>>514823631
You're still lying on a Federal form with a State ID that say's you're a women when you're a man.

The records that the Federal Government has on you since birth say's you're a man and now you're telling them that you're a woman? Before Biden that would be a red flag on the NICS investigation

>>514805273 (OP)
the mentally ill are not allowed to own guns. Simple as.

Jesus appears to you:
>Hey anon my child, you haven’t been transphobic, have you?

How exactly would chuds respond to this?

>>514805416
>How is selectively banning an entire group of Americans from owning firearms "Pro Second Amendment?" Do you not realize they'll just keep expanding the groups that can't own them until you're one of them if this passes?
There should not be a federal law on this. Let the states use their already existing horrible red flag laws to stop troons at best.

>>514824482
>You're still lying on a Federal form with a State ID that say's you're a women when you're a man.
According to what ID? The state ID that says whatever the state wants it to say? Because as I mentioned earlier, not many gun buyers have a federal ID. If the state controls the ID and there is no federal ID, then as long as it matches the ID there is no lying involved. Even if it claims to be penguin gendered or something weirder. Because....... not many people buying guns...... have..... a federal..... ID.......
you low reading comprehension fuckers are so fucking annoying.

>>514824825
Let the states do what they do. When only blue states that don't flag troons as dangerous have troon massacres it'll be obvious troons and libs are the issue, not guns.