Thread 514806082

does anything?

>double slit experiment
If you catch my drift

>>514806082 (OP)
I want to take my dad with me to trace back our heritage around the world, 3 month vacation.
mientras le puede hacer huevo.

>>514806082 (OP)
>muh simulation
then just kys and wake up, retard

>>514806082 (OP)
If anything, the idea that human perception directly affects physical reality REFUTES the idea of a simulation, retard.

>>514806082 (OP)
Even if we are in a simulation, as far as we know, there's no way out of it (even death is no guarantee) so, yes, politics would still matter. If anything they'd matter even more on the off-chance all of us are constantly being recycled and living our same lives over and over again without realizing it for record keeping purposes (so as to preserve the memory of the human it is we're based on who is probably long dead). Even if we're not based on anything eternal recurrence could still be true for us. We don't know how the simulation works.

>>514806270
>human perception directly affects physical reality
that's not how it works

It's not a simulation because i refuse to believe there's something that Inteligent that created us.

>>514806270
how so?
Reality literally isn't being rendeded without an observer, just like bideo gayms

Politics aren't even real period regardless of that. This is literally all a divisive tribalist larp the parasite pedophile class uses as theater.

>>514806082 (OP)
If I don't look at OP is he still a faggot?

>>514806082 (OP)
>burger still doesn't understand why the double slit shenanigans happen

>>514806082 (OP)
>Do politics even matter if we’re in a simulation?
nothing matters if we're living in a simulation or not
because you can't affect the simulation
so it doesn't make any difference whether it's 'real' or 'simulated'
it's all the same to us

>>514806376
>because you can't affect the simulation
he doesn't know

>>514806082 (OP)
science communicators misconstrue the double slit experiment to the public and pretend it's some spooky magic. the interference pattern disappearing is a result of how they measure the particle. it's called the observer effect. the measurement tools themselves are disrupting the results, not human consciousness

>>514806082 (OP)
>I'm 13 and this is so deep
kys

>>514806328
Seems unlikely we are base reality though, doesn’t it? Turtles all the way down.

>>514806449
sharting yourself while manifesting your will REAL HARD doesn't do anything, you woman

>>514806082 (OP)
does it matter if it's a simulation or not?

>>514806502
>Seems unlikely we are base reality though, doesn’t it?
this.

>>514806082 (OP)
I don’t see how that being in a simulation changes anything at all.

>>514806223
>>514806341
>>514806493
Let’s maintain some level of decorum here.
Thank you.

>>514806270
>certain wave-particle interactions only occur by (not) measuring
if anything, it's a pretty strong indicator of culling, honestly.

>>514806223
That's why suicide doesn't work.

>>514806490
not to overplay it, but it is still bizarre how particles behave like a wave when unmeasured though. it's a very bizarre phenomena, like wave-particle behavior as a whole.

>>514806546
>manifesting your will REAL HARD doesn't do anything
wrong we're in some kind of "be careful what you wish for" monitored "reality" and whatever is running it has a sick sense of humor. Go ahead and try it

>>514806336
that's not what the experiemnt means retard
in order to measure something, we need to bounce waves off it, to do the measuring
the act of bouncing waves off the measured thing alters what it does
that is all
no metaphysics, no simulation, no esoteric bullshit
just our crude instruments that ham handedly affect the measured phenomenon

>>514806502
>>514806328
>>514806082 (OP)
the universe isn't a simulation. it's just paranoia brought about by the recent widespread adoption of computers. when you have faggots like elon musk playing video games all day of course he's gonna assume real life is a simulation too. it's just more death-cult shit ("the world is fake and society is gonna collapse any moment!!!")

>>514806803
nah, you're just a schizoid type personality prone to magic thinking
sad, many such cases
you'd be a great witch doctor somewhere in africa though
or an protestant pastor, same thing

>>514806823
you're still missing the point, no matter how measurement changes some theoretical hidden variable or otherwise, particles (electrons) are still behaving like a wave and "interfere" with each other in a wave like fashion, which is incredibly strange.

>>514806082 (OP)
No. Also voting is fake so even if we aren’t in a simulation, it’s a placation activity to allow you to believe you have any say in what happens. But arguing about politics is fun for midwits like me so here I am

>>514806082 (OP)
I think what normies mean by "simulation" is essentially a confused version of Plato's allegory of the cave. If Plato's allegory is true, then nothing in the world matters. All is vanity.

>>514806823
No, it's not that simple. Even a perfect, gentle measurement that leaves no disturbance still destroys the interference. What matters is whether the which-path information exists at all, not how roughly we measure it.

>>514806920
you're just a faggot who thinks they are a lot smarter than they actually are. Probably some college know it all

>>514807134
> Even a perfect, gentle measurement that leaves no disturbance
at the single-particle scale it is impossible to measure without disturbing
there is no gentle measurement, at least not with the technology we have today

>>514807207
now tell me how you'd kick my ass if you ever met me, Grug

>>514806082 (OP)
>simulation
It is what Jews want you to believe.

I always look at the clock at 11:11

>>514806082 (OP)
Does wherever things are "real" or not matter if virtue exists?

>>514807294
No, you are incorrect you pretentious fuck
https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.84.1

>>514806920
all gnosticism is a schizo-babble.
I met one one high-functioning schizo, and he was constructing a world very similar to what gnostics believe, yet he was saying he never read about gnostic doctrines even in the previous live, where he was a woman on a distant planet, more technically advanced than Earth.

>>514807456
>The which-path or both-path information of a quantum can be marked or erased by its entangled twin even after the registration of the quantum.
so there might in fact be hope for whores to unfuck themselves...
best not tell them

>>514807456
the act of measuring in of itself is something you're imposing... so how is it NOT leaving a disturbance?

>>514806082 (OP)
simulation poopenstation

>>514806628
Stop parroting shit you just learned, zoomer faggot. You have to be 18 to post here.

>>514807901
we hebben een serieus shartje probleem?

>>514806799
>not to overplay it, but it is still bizarre how particles behave like a wave when unmeasured though. it's a very bizarre phenomena, like wave-particle behavior as a whole.
it's because it isn't truly either of those things, they are just mathematical models that try to describe it. In my mind I view it like a branching lightning bolt of probability, hitting all possibilities at once

>>514807812
In the quantum eraser experiment, nobody ever touches or bounces anything off the photon at the slits. Just the fact that the path could be known makes the interference vanish. When that info is erased, the pattern comes back. That shows it’s not clumsy measuring — it’s whether the path information exists at all.

>>514807456
>>514808280
>search for 'quantum eraser experiment'
>this is first result

kek even sabine doesn't like it

>>514806082 (OP)
GAMERS PLAY TO WIN

>>514806337
Why... the FUCK is "right" wing on the "left" side and "left" wing on the "right" side?!?!?!? GODDAMMIT you "people" make me sooo mad!

>>514810062
It's for engagement farming. Once you know this, you'll noticed they ALWAYS do this.

>>514806223
If life is a simulation so is death.
Death is part of simulation.
Suicide doesn't solve shit.

>They still believe the double slit experiment isn't just a thought experiment
>They still believe light actually travels, that "electricity" even travels.

>>514810103
It has to be non-whites, likely asian, but possibly a brown. No white (non-retarded) growing up in America would get such an instinctual/natural layout so backwards.

>>514808069
but lightning doesn't hit all possibilities at once, if you watch a slow mo version it kind of zig zags around

>>514806823
Midwit take
Not every measuring needs to throw waves over stuff. Actually most quantum experiments are done in a way that's zero influence over the particles being measured.

>>514807669
>schizo has tranny fantasies

Pottery.

>>514810103
>>514810062
No it is because it is a humorous meme image mocking politics and thus is reversed; it also heightens the comedy especially with the white and brown masks.

Hope that helps.

>>514806082 (OP)
How does the double slit experiment prove a simulation?

>>514810378
And you're still mentally ill

>>514806082 (OP)
Oh yay, a thread with a bunch of midwits trying to clumsily apply ontologies to quantum mechanics based on a half-baked (mis)understanding derived from pop sci youtube videos

>>514810420
maybe that's the point, lightning spreads out everywhere before it collapses into a single line

5:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQKhIK4pvYo

>>514806082 (OP)
Simulation is belief in god. What are we simulating? Heaven or hell.

>>514810939
It's not only just a thought experiment, the bongo beating nimrod who conjured it up specifically said it wouldn't be reproducible.

What collapses the wave function?

>>514814147
The description collapses but the actual system doesn't

>>514814147
My massive penis.

>>514806183
would

>>514806082 (OP)
Everyone is living in their own simulation, several layers deep. As children, we have no sense of "self" are not calibrated with reality. We are in a state of superposition with infinite possibilities on who we are and who we can become. Its only until we ground ourselves in reality and are observed, do we become a fixed thing. Its the collective consciousness, endless potential, a dimension of being.

>>514814147
The infinite selves become too much, possibility narrows and we become what the world reflects back at us. To undo, we have to consciously enter the warp and reclaim lost possibilities.

>>514806219
You will never be American, mexcreant

>>514815194
"Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."

>>514806082 (OP)
To understand the double slit experiment, imagine dropping a stone into a pond so that ripples radiate outward. Now, imagine you're tasked with measuring the precise contours of those ripples, but the only measurement tool you're allowed to use is to physically touch the surface of the water and feel its position. You know intuitively that by touching the water, you're going to create further ripples wherever you touch it, so measuring the original ripples from the stone in this way is impossible.

The double slit experiment is similar, in that because of the scale of the interactions, the act of observation directly influences the system. If you're still struggling to understand this, take a moment to remember that for your eyes to be able to see light at all, photons have to physically hit your retina. For you to see an object, photons have to physically hit both that object and your retina. If the things you're trying to observe are themselves photons, then no shit your act of observing them is going to cause them to move differently.

The only reason people find this hard to understand is because they either forget or are ignorant of the fact that seeing is a physical process.

>>514806223
suicide is fake!

>>514816634
Yes, my friend, yes!

Until faith becomes rejection
And rejection becomes belief
There will be no true believer.

>>514806082 (OP)
Simulation theory is more kike schizo tranny shit meant to direct your attention away from the fact you are a proto God like entity exploring God’s creation.

>>514810683
Tfw you will never have a sabretooth hunting companion

>>514806082 (OP)
Yes. Thought influences reality, and politics influence thought.

>>514818693
STOP CRYING ALL THE TIME NEWSCUM YOUR A TOUGHGUY NOW

THE FUTURE OF THE DEMOCRAP PARTY AND ALL THEIR ATROCIOUS LEFTOID POZ IS RIDING ENTIRELY ON YOU

>>514814147
At the heart of the observer effect lies that we don't know what constitutes a measurement at the quantum level.

>>514806082 (OP)
Simulation theory is retarded, and full on narcissistic.
Nobody is spending resources to put humans in a simulation.

>>514806082 (OP)
we are not in a simulation

>>514820467
The idea that god created humans in the image of himself is more narcissistic.

>>514806082 (OP)
theres no such thing as a simulation or physical reality, in both cases you are thinking about colors, that you pretend they are different things shows how deluded you are in lying yourself.

>>514806082 (OP)
If the point of the simulation is to collect data, then yes; politics and every other major decision are likely the entire point of this exercise in cosmic horror. Neat, right?

>>514810439
explain how a macaco measures a banana without touching it

>>514806082 (OP)
It's just that shrimple.

>>514822922
>Ken Wheeler
might as well quote a flat earther

>>514806082 (OP)
It's not a simulation. You'd require too much processing power to simulate reality to this level.

>>514806183
Guys,we are just playing thé game ...
Stop fucking it up with objectif truth, everybody knows... Thats not cool....

proving whether we're in a simulation or not is impossible from within the simulation

it doesn't matter anyway because even if we are in a simulated universe, it's still the real universe for us

>>514806223
>an hero
Do you want to risk respawning as a pajeet or Chicom?

>>514806082 (OP)
Never does.
But at least it's one of the few things that keep you entertained when facing the absurd boredom.

>>514806337
There's no thing as a centrist. Unless you're some milquetoast neutral tard that has no strong opinions or beliefs, in which case you're a leftist by default. Argue your position as a "centrist."

>>514823579
In fact.Yet you created Shnokia in your God forgotten swap...
I'm openminded Spik as far as philosophique théories are concearned...

>>514823579
How can one be so gorillaniggerbrained? How do you know what "too much" processing power is to the one simulating this reality in their context? If a being could simulate whatever it is we are doing now you think they would run it on an FX6300? Or that their "computers" would be dogshit tower PCs with electrical components similar to ours 1:1? They could have tech to make this whole 999 gorillion year experience in one nanosecond for all we know. lmao, insanely retarded comment

>>514823838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPcV9uIY5i4

coding pure machine code with specific move set while in game itself to write a program in the ram then executing it.

>>514824186
It's about information. To simulate the universe perfectly, you need a computer that is larger than the universe. If we are in a simulation, the real universe either looks absolutely nothing like ours, or this is an extremely crude approximation.
>insanely retarded comment
Your issue is that you're too ignorant to even know why you're clueless.

>>514824186
No même flag attackes based Swap Dweller!All he did is expressing his concearn about IA turning into Globohomo Talmudiques Machine....

I have a serious question for the non bots here.

I used to understand the concept of being in a simulation and related with people when they discussed it.
I no longer do for some reason.
Why do you people say this? Even if this is a simulation (which you can't even define so it's just a vibe for you people), how can it feel fake to you? This is the only reality you've ever known.

>>514806318
explain it then nigger

>>514806082 (OP)
whoever made this meme is a retard and doesn't understand the experiment
it’s about whether any interaction with the particle leaves a trace of which path it took, that’s what collapses the wavefunction, not someone looking at it

>>514824666
Ok, no insults this time. First of all how can you call me clueless when you yourself say that there is a possibility that the real universe outside of the simulation might be something completely different than our universe? But let's take that completely out of the picture

Why does the computer have to be bigger than our entire universe? And when you think "big" in distance for example in what context do you think about it?
I can open a space sim on my computer and "travel" millions of lightyears away with one screen swipe, if you populate this program with convincing enough intelligence in the sense that we mean it, they would think that travelling to the edge of the universe is impossible but to me it would be one swipe away. The only limitation is that you can't comprehend a computer that can run such "sophisticated" and big software but that's because we might think of it this way because we were programmed like this.

Your imagination goes only as far as the limitations of current technology or at best some scifi imaginations that we've created, but their computer could be literally infinite times faster than what we can imagine. Think about those redstone memory modules in minecraft, huge constructs that, from the pov of the villagers for example, are insanely huge buildings that go up into the sky, to emulate basically 1kHz or something and outside of that "simulation" we have something 5 million times faster running it. So the same could be true for those beings, maybe their tech is billions or trillions or more times better than the top tech we have currently so computations like simulating emotional functions for every single organism could be trivial from their pov

Btw I don't believe we live in a simulation, just talking hypotheticals