Thread 514807555

>women cant be drafted
>women can vote

Explain how this is fair and why it isnt being changed.

just say no to the draft

>women don't want to be drafted
>men don't want women to be drafted either
it's very simple

>>514807555 (OP)
>men can't give birth
>men can force women not to get abortions
Life isn't fair.

>>514807689
No shit retard

>>514807756
Men and women force them, not just men.

>>514807555 (OP)
It's bad for national morale if our enemies start uploading videos of captured female soldiers being raped. Nobody would really care if they did the same thing with male soldiers but with women there'd be a national outcry. Women on the battlefield just create too palpable an opportunity for psyops.

>>514807714
Speak for yourself.

>women I like
should not be drafted
>women I do not like
should be drafted

It isn't fair but men made a huge mistake when they didn't kill the suffragettes.

>>514807555 (OP)
They're trying to solve it by drafting women too so we can all be equal slaves of the bureaucratic state

>>514807840
Ok so why should they fucking vote then

>>514807555 (OP)
You know she has the flat chest and no wait problem Michelle Obama has.

>>514807949
I don't see this happening

>>514807714
This. Imagine dying in battle because the 90lb, 5'2 woman that can barely carry her loadout is supposed to cover you while you're changing positions but she's failing to push her magazine in.

>>514808150
Imagine being sent to war by womens votes

>>514807978
Why should handicapped Americans who can't fight in a war be able to if "being able to be drafted" is your sufficient requirement for voting? Do you want to strip voting rights from everyone in a wheelchair too?

>>514807555 (OP)
checked
The solution is simple. Prohibit women from voting.

>>514808567
>changing the subject

>>514808850
You're the one arguing that the ability to be drafted should grant or not grant voting rights respectively which opens up a can of worms that extends far beyond just women.

>>514809002
>opens up can of worms
>these are your worms!!!

No madam. They are yours.

>>514807555 (OP)
>how do I pet the dog, explain!
you just pet the dog anon

There was a bill in the US a couple of years ago to make women register for the draft, but it got shot down unsurprisingly. Can't stop women having their cake and eating it too.

>>514810146
>Can't stop women having their cake and eating it too.

False, roe v wade being overturned was the hoeflation bubble popping. We wont get fooled again.

>>514809090
kek

>>514808192
If there was a vote to abolish the draft it would be the woman's vote that abolishes it

>>514807555 (OP)
Women suck at fighting so there's only one logical way to fix this.

>>514808567
Yes.

Also anyone who receives welfare. No rights without responsibilities.

>>514810690
Men can decide for themselves just fine. Its not about yay or nay, its about participation.

>>514807555 (OP)
We had a failed constitutional amendment that would have put declaration of war to a national vote and enlisted everyone who voted "yea". Sometimes we just don't get nice things.

>>514807555 (OP)
Just become a woman, simple as.

>>514807555 (OP)
They get bodily autonomy while we do not.

It's very simple really.

>>514811040
>he thinks trannies are exempt from the draft

Thats the answer to what is a woman question lul.

>>514807555 (OP)
>>514811254
You can avoid the draft by shidding and farding in your pants.

>>514807689
Would you like to know more?

>>514807555 (OP)
I thought we had this all figured out by 2016.

>>514807555 (OP)
Women are a race that crawled up from sewage.

>>514811219
>They get bodily autonomy while we do not.
Vid very much related. Moids can't even keep their entire dicks.

Don't worry I never vote
I know that it doesn't actually count

>>514807756
>Children and unborn children can't give consent or understand things
>Women should freely murder them
Keep your fucking pussy shut if you don't want to get pregnant then.

>>514810849
What about the elderly?

>>514811513
This. Fuck.

>>514809002
>>514807840
>>514808150
Fighting for a feminist country that openly hates men and wants to replace you with third-worlders is the most cucked thing any western man can do
The only war any self-respecting white man should fight is a civil war

>>514811513
Look at those eyes, so full of feminine love and maternal compassion.

>>514812150
And women wonder why they get raped during times of war and social turmoil

>>514807756
>women now have to be forced to not kill babies

Its grim bros.

>>514807756
>Life isn't fair.

It isnt fair that you cant commit infanticide?

>>514807555 (OP)
Women played a major part in Ukraine's euromaidan, which resulted in the invasion by Russia.

Subsequent to that, women ran to the back and pushed men to the front to clean up the mess they caused.

>>514807714
Women can be drafted for support roles. There's no way men should be sent off to die while women stay home painting their nails, eating hot chip, and making TikToks.

>>514813107
We really only need 1 vote per household.

>>514813107
Let me rephrase, should a household have 1 vote each, or should they be divided?

>>514813690
Women shouldn’t be allowed to vote, period (implying voting makes a difference)

>>514811662
Already covered. If they are net welfare recipients (yes that includes Medicaid) then no vote.

>>514813107

Yeah even if women aren't suited for combat they should be drafted to work in the factories or logistics or something.

The way Ukraine is drafting men and letting their women run off the Western Europe and start a comfy new life while their men get blown up by drones is disgusting.
The women should be ashamed and the men should be furious.

>>514811838
Hear hear

>>514807978
Because bigger men like me said so, go be a wimp faggot somewhere else

>>514813962
I think women had more influence when they had strong families and husbands anyway. Instead of on their own.

>>514807555 (OP)
because women are in charge and women in fact do not care at all about men

>>514814133
Work on that bait

>>514814027
>The women should be ashamed and the men should be furious
Women don’t feel shame and they like it when men are forced to die in wars
And men are effeminate cucks who are just going to keep taking it instead of rebelling

>>514807555 (OP)
Women haven't been invented yet.

>>514807555 (OP)
Here's how the rules should be:

All men may be drafted for military service with two exceptions:
>(a) those who pay $10,000.00 are exempt for one (1) year;
>(b) those who are unfit for military service and also unable to pay $10k are given the choice to be ground up into hamburger meat or deported to a randomly chosen african state or the state of israel;

All women may be drafted for military-support* service with two exceptions:
>(a) those whose fathers or husbands pay $10,000.00 are exempt for one (1) year;
>(b) those who are unfit for military-support* service and also unable to pay $10k are given the choice to be ground up into hamburger meat or deported to a randomly chosen african state or the state of israel;

*: Women drafted for military-support* service are assigned to one of the following roles:
>(a) designated wife assigned to a particular and carefully selected military serviceman for life;
>(b) general breeding cow to produce children according to a sophisticated breeding program, with each viable offspring providing a 50% for the breeding cow to become exempt for life;
>(c) "comfort women" a.k.a. prostitutes made freely available to servicemen;
>(d) non-sexual support staff, such as secretaries and call center operators;
>(e) extreme bulldykes and amazons who qualify may be assigned to a special all-female "furies" or "valkyries" direct combat arms unit used for parades and as shock troops cuz yas kween

There, now the draft is fixed in the most sane & healthy-for-the-nation way possible.

>>514814206
Be quiet queer, your opinion doesnt matter. You minimum bench 220 to reply to my posts

>>514807555 (OP)
If men can be drafted to give their lives to save the country, women should be drafted to pregnancy to save the country.

>>514807714
I want only women to be drafted, since they can do anything a man can do and in high heels.
Nigga supreme said so.

>>514807555 (OP)
You fucking retards advocate for a trad wife society and then at the same time hate women so much that you also advocate for them to be drafted to the front lines. You have no actual moral compass or values, and you dont even see the contradiction. What a bunch of weak, pathetic cowards.

>>514815220
the time for trad wives is over, incel.

>>514808150
>the only position in the military is frontline infantry
found the 70 IQ retard

>>514814716
The beauty of the United States is that we can be isolationist. We would never need a draft for anything except national defense in the case of a massive invasion. This should be a wonderful land of peace, opportunity and civilization. Name the last time the US went to war to defend itself? Even the last draft was for a war thousands of miles away the US staged an attack on itself to join. The US wasn't even attacked, as if the severity of the claimed event warranted some east asian quagmire that lasted 10 years and killed 70,000 Americans.

But it's inverted, a travesty. Rather than secure our nation and border, the US has a wide open southern border with literally millions of people flooding in. Jewish traitors who hold the border wide open intentionally. Nobody is prosecuted. The taxpayer is squeezed to fund instead, the security of Israel. Jews use this country to wage wars all over the world that result in the deaths of whites and Christians. Jews are raping this country to death, they are the external threat and no draft is required for that.

>>514814716
>Chatgpt doesnt suggest women simply not voting

Curious

>>514815220
trad caths are pathetic ohh hur durr need woman in sundresses flowers and shit in actuality they're kissless virgins who larp as wignats online im so glad that phase on pol is over

>>514815220
>>514815303
>the old women in question calling you retarded incels online

>>514814753
see
>>514811838

>>514815220
Nice white-feather post hole. You just don't get it. Refer to my other post, we've been disenfranchised and hated for decades, and the same cunts who disenfranchised us will get to relax at home while we'll be forced to die and replaced by migrants as a final insult to injury... And i just know that the cunts will be happy about it too
I made it clear that I'm not a coward, I'm not afraid of violence. I just hate the people I'm expected to defend and I'd rather kill them instead of whoever they'll be sending me to kill

Answer my question hole, why the fuck should I do my traditional gender roll if the holes won't do theirs?

>>514815220
>>514815303
>the old women in question calling you retarded incels online

>>514807555 (OP)
>Explain how this is fair
It's not.
>Why isn't it being changed
Because the powers that be are satanists and don't care about equity/fairness.
On the other hand, you are not a citizen by birth, you must choose to accept citizenship; it is a voluntary servitude to the state that affords you certain privileges while sacrificing your life, liberty and happiness.
That only winning move is not to play.

>>514815715
My cousin is one of these hags, She belittles men for playing videogames because god-forbid we get to relax in the evenings after busting our asses all day... Yet they'll be the ones saying "off you pop boys, it's your duty" when the time comes.
Feminists and conservatives have more in common than they think, both think that men only exist to be workhorses and cannon-fodder for a gynocentric society that hates them

>>514807714
Fuck off, cunt. Voter registration should only be possible by registering for the draft with no age limit. Ukraine is sending old people out to fight and they should be the first to go.

>>514807555 (OP)
They can in Israel. The only true democracy in the world.

>>514815713
I am a 30 year old man you inbred fucking retard monkey. Pick an ideology and be consistent.

>>514816028
Have you told the demon to accept jesus?

>>514815715
how is it possible that all of them are fat? I fucking hate fat people.

>>514816176
>women voting
>true democracy

The houses are divided.

>>514816528
I just told you what mine is. If they won’t get back in the kitchen I’m not going to the front line, it’s really not that hard to understand
Are you going to enlist? Or are you “too old for that”

>>514816675
>how is it possible that all of them are fat?

Not all, just most

>>514807555 (OP)
It definitely isn't "fair" but western civilization worships women so what else do you expect.
Also /pol/ puts way too much importance in voting. Posting "she voted for this" is a guaranteed way to make tradcucks seethe (they have admitted numerous times that they search that term in the archives and absolutely seethe at any post that matches the term).
Voting gives the masses the illusion of choice. Meanwhile nothing ever improves and you get the blue zionist or the red zionist. /pol/ is too mentally retarded to comprehend anything I just said by the way.

>>514818466
>western civilization worships women
A common misnomer. We actually just decided they need to be forced to stop killing babies.

>>514815220
>You fucking retards advocate for a trad wife society and then at the same time hate women so much that you also advocate for them to be drafted to the front lines

That's not a contradiction at all. If they have equal rights, they should be drafted.
If they don't have equal rights, submit to men and make babies, they should be exempt from the draft.

>>514808650
yes.

>>514807555 (OP)
That American skank will never be queen.

>>514815406
I'm isolationist but just in the sense that I think a country does not have the duty to get involved in other countries' problems, which is the atlanticist and "USA as the policeman of the world" consensus . If a country is already involved, which is US' case, the matter is very different. The analogy is that you shouldn't stab others, but if you do stab someone, maybe the most moral option is not taking out the knife so that the wound doesn't open and bleed to death. In this context, it means that it isn't justified to prompt chaos all around the world if you have previously made everyone believe that they were safe.

>>514807714
men don't want women to vote either

>>514807555 (OP)
>women pay taxes
>women can vote
oh right muttoids are incapable of critical thinking, or thinking in overall

>>514821689
>if i change the subject it goes away
False

>>514821689
Men pay taxes too dumbass

>>514807555 (OP)
>>women cant be drafted
If conditions are so dire that all young males in the country need to get sent to war, then you'll want to keep the young women safe so they can have babies that replace the casualties.
Send the young women. Your country dies.
Not women's fault that their biology, makes them more valuable than men.
You don't send the highest asset your country has (fertile women), to be cannon fodder.

>>514823446
>their biology, makes them more valuable than men.

This is a misnomer of modernity, proven by the faltering birthrates that are putting the west below replacement levels, and being replaced by cultures which value men.

If you had a logic center in your brain you might understand this.

>>514824019
He's talking about biology, retard, your argument is sociological. If there were a war and men all across the country were drafted, that fact would obviously outweigh whatever sociological reasons drive women not to reproduce, and they would instantly revert to ape mentality and get pregnant.

>>514807756
>Life isn't fair.
yet

>>514824794
>>514824019

And I don't mean getting pregnant during the war but after it. During the war they won't obviously get pregnant because they think about saving their own asses first. But once the war is finished and there are less men to maintain them, fertility rates would skyrocket.

And that applies to our economy in general even if there is no war. Low fertility rates will lead to decreasing population eventually, less population means less productivity (not just less wealth as in GDP, but also GDP per capita), and people will slowly notice that and increase fertility rates again, so what we are experiencing is most likely cyclical.

>>514807555 (OP)
the 'draft' is a british territorial and vatican municipal corporate fraud
no living american man is obligated
what people think is a military is actually a mercenary force

>>514814716
Nobody should be able to buy their way out of a draft. I aint reading the other nonsense you wrote.

>>514823446
> then you'll want to keep the young women safe so they can have babies that replace the casualties
How many times do I have to say it? They're not having MY babies paco, they're going to have babies with the shitskin migrants we're going to be replaced with. This is exactly what is happening in Ukraine right now. And they sure as fuck will not stay loyal to me until I return. This argument will always fall flat on me for that reason
>Send the young women. Your country dies
This "country" is already dead you dumb spic, I'm not fighting for a decaying corpse

>>514824794
>>514825142
Biologically speaking, you will be sociologically subjugated. (According to current trends and historical baselines)