Thread 514851735

Conservatives: muh second amendment! shall not be infringed!

Also conservatives: wants targeted disarmament of a persecuted minority

I just can't emphasize enough how massive an escalation this is.

Open the history books (that conservatives haven't banned yet) and find out for yourself where this leads.

But troons *are* mentally ill. They shouldn't own cars either or be allowed to operate large machinery.

>>514851830
Trans folk are the group that NEED to be arming themselves the most. Way too many people are buying into the propaganda, and it's created an unsafe environment for trans folk.

>>514851735 (OP)
you lost tranny lol

>>514851735 (OP)
now just ban black people from getting guns and we should be set.

>>514851869
>Way too many people are buying into the propaganda

im only half j00 and I'm fucking loaded with 2a shit. Come at me niggers

>>514851735 (OP)
this will get overturned on 2A grounds immediately. courts drag their heels for literal decades on AWB, mag bans, quasi-registries, etc., but the second someone they even SNIFF something anti-trans, anti-black, anti-etc. you can bet your ass even the 9th circuit will become strict constructionist

>>514851735 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcAQLWb1XJ8

Makes sense. Mentally ill people shouldnt have their hands on guns.

Nooo you can't just kill the mentally ill pedos who cut their dicks off and groom kids into cuttings their dicks off

>>514851869
You mean the people who get tricked into thinking they could change their sex and ruin their lives in the proces need guns so they can take revenge on the people who misled them.
I guess you got a point there.

>>514851895
>countries subjugated by us hegemony
>russia

>>514851735 (OP)
live in a country ran by jews.. that's how genocides start.

>>514852064
>average zigger shill doesnt know russias history

zanks for the thozzle

All it does make banning guns easier for legal buyers. Anything can be tacked onto that law later which is obviously the plan.

>>514851830
>operate large machinery
Kek. You are german.

>>514851735 (OP)
i hope leftoids run the next elections on the right for faggots in dresses with mental illness to own rifles in order to own the repubs

>>514851735 (OP)
>I HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS YOU MUST RESPECT IT BECAUSE IT IS VERY VERY REAL AND ABSOLUTELY NOT JUST A MASTURBATION ADDICTION
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
stop killing and raping kids troon trash

Are gun store owners going to have to check if they have a girl penis?

>>514852548
obviously a proxy if as an american you never had penis inspection day before getting to CC a glock

Total khokhol death

>>514852543
>MASTURBATION ADDICTION
Funny that you say this knowing that red areas consume not only the most porn, but by far the most tranny porn in the country

>>514851735 (OP)
You're not wrong, but not in the way you think. Trump is looking for a loophole to ban guns altogether, or at least to give the next administration a legal basis to do so. The noticing has become too intense lately. (((They))) want to abolish free speech and guns.

>>514851869
Get in the trenches faggot

Conservatives are just borderline evil at this point
Arm up

>>514851869
>folk
You have to go back

>>514851735 (OP)
>Ukraine flag
>tranny advocate
Mentally insane people shouldn’t have guns.

>>514851869
You’re the one the one creating an unsafe environment.

>>514852548
>go to buy gun
>fill out form
>question number 2: Gender M or F

>>514851735 (OP)
Troons don't have genes to even be genocide since they don't reproduce. They are basically already dead, non-humans, so what's the problem with just finishing what they themselves started, and doing it on an industrial scale?

>>514851735 (OP)
You have been visited by "joker"
This is a confusion thread.
Op is a tremendous faggot and doesnt have what it takes to cause the "shock" in "shock and confusion".

>>514851869
You're making me REALLY support what Russia is doing when you make posts like that. I supported it before, but now I support it even more than that.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED means SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, this is really not a difficult concept.

>>514851735 (OP)
Aren't troons your national animal?

>>514852985
How many draft officers did you shoot today, you worn-out cock sleeve?

>>514851735 (OP)
LMAO SEETHE

>>514851735 (OP)
If he does this, even if he's just a jew puppet he will be the best President of the USA ever

>>514851869
Transgenderism is a transmissible mental diseas, just like anorexia. No one becomes transgender unless they are convinced (groomed) by another afflicted individual, the exact same mechanism as anorexia.

I feel like OP is trolling but then I remember this

this will make it easier to exterminate them. project 2025.

>>514851735 (OP)
I hate trannys fuck them .

>>514851735 (OP)
>leftist jews pretending to love the constitution now
called it

>>514851869
>propaganda
"Pride" had been the most visible propaganda operation in modern history, MAGA is just the most recent and most people don't buy into it because they're closet-liberals who happen to hate annoying trannies.

>>514851735 (OP)
>disarming transvestites
>This is how genocides start
hopefully
but its not really a genocide, a genocide implies a genetically unifiable group. these are just mentally ill people who are statistically more likely to do harm to the innocent in society due to their mental instability and perversions.

>>514851735 (OP)
hunter schafer doesnt need a gun to suck on my fat cock!

>>514851735 (OP)
Nigger they were declared mentally ill until the DSM changed it to spite Trump

>>514851735 (OP)
Mentally ill freaks can't own weapons, they shouldn't be allowed to operate any kind of machinery or ever drive a vehicle ever.

>>514858941
How fucking retarded are you

>>514851735 (OP)
We need to be allowed to have 30mm full auto cannons if this happens. I don't know if we should have civilians with Javelin systems like you Holo FAGS ... but the 2nd amendment was to help us defend out selves against the GOVERNMENT not hunt or domestic intruders.

But where do we draw the line? Should Elon and Gates be able to buy nukes? This is kind of were I bow out, but I know our walmart bargain basement house and senate isn't the one to choose either.

>>514859109
Around a solid 7, why?

>>514851735 (OP)
This is a brilliant move by Trump. He's going to make the Democrats support the second amendment. Incredible.

>>514859109
yes

>>514851735 (OP)
>This is how genocides start

>>514851735 (OP)
>>514851869
Trannies should be sent to probe the frontline, and for that they need to be armed when they arrive there, yes

>>514851895
Lol how was Bohemia/Czech Republic ever invaded by englishmen? This map is nonsense

>>514851735 (OP)
MY SOUL IS PREPARE DR. JONES, HOW IS YOURS?!

>>514851735 (OP)
> muh bad nazis

>>514859341
Thats like saying people with down syndrome should be sent to the front. They are all seriously mentally ill.

>>514851869
get into the meatgrinder already and off this site hohol

But if you're a white male incel and want to gun down schoolchildren, you go on ahead

>>514852420
Amazing how many problems the government created and perpetuated, just to later come through with solutions that are all perfect templates for stripping everyone of their rights. Before any anons accept this as a good solution, remember it's from the same people who intentionally created those problems in the first place.

>>514852149
>homosexual intervention
>bolshevik victory

>>514851735 (OP)
>buying guns legally

Lmao why don't I just kill myself and save the glowniggers a bullet?

Fuck that. They can learn about my hollow point and high caliber AP rounds as they bust in through my door.

>>514859490
>Thats like saying people with down syndrome should be sent to the front.
And thanks to Robert McNamara, we essentially saw how that worked out.

>>514859226
Only because it supports their narrative and agenda in this instance. Understand, anon, both democrats and republicans are absolute hypocritical jews who will argue out of both sides of their mouths. democrats will scream how the second amendment needs to go and especially for head cases but suddenly be staunch defenders when it comes to disarming trannies, as much as the republicans will ree that social media is the new public square and must be held to upholding the first amendment but then they'll support age-gating social media and much of the internet and demanding IDs for it. They both are different sides of the same coin that is a giant shit on your liberties.

>>514851735 (OP)
Yay. The left is now pro-gun.

>>514851735 (OP)
So military veterans, who are also mentally ill, will be next?

>>514860793
Yay. The right is now pro-ban.

>>514851735 (OP)
Cutting your dick off and going crazy isn't a genome.

>>514851735 (OP)

Fuck off, Hohol.

>>514851869
>Way too many people are buying into the propaganda
Agreed there's way too many kids that got psyopped into being trannies.

>>514861475
>veterans use guns to shoot themselves
>trannies use guns to shoot schoolchildren
“This is actually completely the same.”

>>514851735 (OP)
>Fri
About time

>>514861475
We can only hope dead to the troons

>>514862120
They both do a favor to the society.

>>514851869
/thread

>>514851869
>"The other side is gonna kill me!"
Most gun owners just want you to fuck off, even if they met a troon, they would look disgusted and move on. Now niggers... that's a group of people who can't be trusted with a gun

>>514862285
i always wondered what these conservative folk would do if a totalitarian fascist government came to power

>>514851735 (OP)
Is whoever wrote that article also an advocate of guns being made legal in European nations where the populations have always been disarmed? Or just for mentally ill troons?

>>514851735 (OP)
>ban trannies from having guns
>ban niggers from having guns (not that they get them legally anyway but fuck em)
>ban jews from high powered positions at banks
>ban women from voting
Its literally that simple

>>514851735 (OP)
He does this and the Assassination attempts will increase 10 fold. One Troon falls another will take its place. You heard them They are ready to die for this shit. And I for one welcome the violence regardless who wins.

>>514851942
Making the left defend the 2 a is the plan. More precedent.

>>514851735 (OP)
Donald "Grab the Guns First, Due Process Second" Trump. Hopefully the courts fuck him on this and we fortify the second amendment as a result

>>514851735 (OP)
They’re at least as mentally ill as anorexics, probably a lot more.

>>514851735 (OP)
The same Jews that created trannies
Now discard them like a used paper tissue
The irony
You all deserve it

>>514851869
This is why your country is getting raped and no one cares.

you were never a real woman to begin with, so nothing is being genocided, your delusions are just being stripped from you

>>514851735 (OP)
Nice strawman there. Which side regularly cries about disarming the population, refunding police, abolishing prisons, "equitable" criminal justice reform (releasing all violent niggers), etc? If your answer is still conservatives you are quite possibly the dumbest motherfucker ever

>>514851907
*ban non-humans from getting guns and we should be set
Ftfy

I am pro arming trans people because it would get their success rate a lot closer to the 41% attempt rate.

Make it so they can only get pistols though, so they can't do the female "wah it's too long to shoot myself" cop out pretend suicide attempt

>>514851735 (OP)
>targeted disarmament of a persecuted minority
constitution was written by white people FOR white people.
get fucked, obvious shitlib who uses r2ddit spacing
>Posterity
POSTERITY
>POSTERITY
POSTERITY
>POSTERITY
google what this word means, faggot

>>514851735 (OP)
kikes should face the wall and niggers should be sent to africa
all of them

>>514851735 (OP)
>post defending the heckin transfolk
>flag
Oh my goodness can you actually get out of here to die to a Russian airstrike you stupid hohol.

>>514851735 (OP)
Lol this guy thinks that conservatives have morals or principles. What year do you think you're living in?

>>514851869
Trannies literally view others not constantly playing along with their sexual fantasies as a threat to their life. They are mentally unhinged and definitely should not own firearms.

>>514859636
Stop noticing that filthy goy

>>514851942
If they add trannies to the mental illness banned list then it isnt mich of a change, but it forces the dems to fight for the 2A unlike their usual MO thereby either one being a win because it might go to the courts faster thereby cementing a decision either way

Taco will make it so only tranny's can have guns.

>>514851735 (OP)
>leftists come up with the idea to frame their opposition as mentally ill to take their guns away
>when their side is the one with actual mentally ill freaks
It's unfortunate that you guys want gun control but if normal Americans can't have them then you shouldn't either

>>514851735 (OP)
holy fuck republicans are owning themselves. Say goodbye to your guns in ~6 years.
Everything used by mr. orange will be also be used against you all later on

>>514851869
I'm all for arming the troons as long as they only kill themselves which is the most likely outcome.

>>514851735 (OP)
you can't mutilate your genitalia and then complain about genocide
that's just too retarded, even for this board

>>514851735 (OP)
The right warned the left about passing things like Red Flag laws.

We told you faggots that these laws will end up being used against you.

You faggots should keep pushing for restrictions on speech too.

Also, fuck ukraine and fuck troons

>>514851942
It also violates the 5th Amendment. Honestly, a federal red flag law might end up being good for gun owners in the long run. It will force the Supreme Court to get involved and put an end to this nonsense once and for all.

I mean, you'd have to be retarded to think that there isn't rampant mental illness within the trans community. Even trans persons know this. It's dysphoria taken to extremes.

>>514851735 (OP)
I can genocide a transgender by using the "wrong" (right) pronoun.

>>514864795
>I can't tell the difference between the word citizen and the word people
It doesn't say "the right of the CITIZENS to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed", now does it?

>>514851735 (OP)
I wish

Leftists: The second amendment is wrong. We should ban guns.
Also leftists: How dare you ban trans’ guns?

Fucking hypocrites!

>>514851735 (OP)
Well the jews did kill 2 million ethnic Germans in 1918-1919 so it's not like they could be trusted with guns or anything.

>>514851735 (OP)
No. I do want trannies to have guns. The thing is I want the common citizenry to have guns too, so that when another troony toon goes on another psychotic killing spree we have a justification to start shooting them all.
Also, get back to the front fucking hohol.

>>514870385
Right so it should only apply to people, not blacks or trans.

>>514851830
>they shouldn't drive king tigers
no shit

>>514851735 (OP)
Still not fighting for you muslim loving paki simping nigger apologists.

>>514870757
>Right so it should only apply to people, not blacks or trans.
Just follow the instructions in the Constitution to make that amendment and we're all good. But you can't make that change because it's dumb. Just like the rest of you anti gunners.

>>514851869
i wish i could get a gun... even if i never used it i just think they're cool

>tfw no luger

>>514851735 (OP)
That they are profoundly mentally ill is not even controversial
XY are you such a faggot, OP?

>>514859109
it was in 2012, peak king obama BS, but otherwise he is right, DSM4 had it and dsm-5 does not. (published 2013)

>>514851735 (OP)
Maybe the trannies shouldn't have started murdering people.

>>514871282
>i wish i could get a gun... even if i never used it i just think they're cool
Luty was from your country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YE9J7qcj0c
Luty had a cool solution to the problem your country is facing.

>>514851735 (OP)
the only weapon a tranny is allowed to have is a rope and a chair.

>>514851735 (OP)
First we came for the second amendment to ban guns, but I didn't speak out because I'm not cisgender and I don't like guns.
Then they came for guns from trans people, and there was no one to speak out on my behalf.

>>514851735 (OP)
I'm kind of against this because it will lower their suicide rate :(

>>514871609
seriously cool what the heck

honestly i think if i tried i would probably end up blowing my self up or something, but its interesting what people can do!

ive been interested in guns ever since my grandad took me shooting clays with his shotguns, they were good times

>>514851869
>The propaganda in question

>>514851735 (OP)
The Soviets first began disarming people by claiming they were 'mentally ill'.

>>514852985
That's right. States will just have to flag their trannys as dangerous my dear Russian occupier.

>>514851735 (OP)
>Ukrainian flag
Why don't you stay in /uhg/ or /k/ my little Ukrainian transvestite. Mentally ill people already don't have the right to own guns anywhere in the world.

>>514851735 (OP)
it's not a persecuted minority, it's a mental illness. which is already a disqualifier for firearm ownership.
if you don't get this you're a retarded faggot.

>>514853020
pass over
is that for trannies who get to 30 when they don't look cute anymore?

>>514872538
oof
just turned 30 the horrible reality is crashing home

>>514872620
its okay girl you still matter xox

>>514871884
I will argue that ropes and bridges will pick up the slack.

>>514872719
thanks anon

sucks getting old

>>514851735 (OP)
any and all gun laws are wrong in my view.

>>514851869
go die for jewlensky already faggot

>>514851735 (OP)
Crazy how suddenly gun control became a bad thing.

>>514872460
>it's a mental illness. which is already a disqualifier for firearm ownership
If the purchaser hasn't been involuntarily held, then no.
Prolonged sadness is a "mental illness" even if it is right after a death in the family. Mental illness isn't the magical disqualifier you're looking for.

>>514851735 (OP)
Trannies need to be locked up or banished to enemy states.

>>514873451
whys that?

>>514851735 (OP)
I believe freedom and human rights are only meant for people exactly like me, both in mentality and skin color. When our ancestors wrote the Declaration of Independence, they specifically excluded women, shitskins, and dysgenic freaks because they knew they didn't deserve rights.

I support this because we need to get back to that. Not everyone deserves rights. Nobody ever intended for our system to be applied equally. MSM and feminist teachers will tell you its always been this way and thats a fucking lie. People want to live by the original spirit of the constitution and I agree.

>>514851849
Thankfully, predator bots will only hunt and kill hominids based on their programming. They won't try to become educators or pedos that groom children.

>>514851735 (OP)
>>514851830
>>514851869

Trannies need to be locked up in insane asylums for the safety of themselves and others

>>514851735 (OP)

There really needs an educational system where they tell it how it is rather than psyoping the sheep to slaughter

>>514851735 (OP)
This isn't the same unless there's some kind of secret historical subtext that Jews were also randomly shooting up civilians, it also falls into the problem that needs to be addressed with SSRIs that many mass shooters have been known to be on, not just trannies
Trannies are often also on SSRIs, but anyone on SSRIs should also not be allowed to own guns

>>514873128
>has a court determined you crazy or have you been in a nut house
The real issue here is that only congress has the power to fuck with your natural rights, but instead we get a federal agency that decides what goes on the form, and some of the shit on the form is legally defined by a psych manual a bunch big pharma and social engineering kikes write as they see fit. If any right needs to be regulated, then congress needs to alter an amendment with enough votes to do so, then legally define what the fuck they are talking about rather than leaving it to some courts opinion of what some psychiatric manual that can be changed at whim says.

>>514873670
>When our ancestors wrote the Declaration of Independence, they specifically excluded women, shitskins, and dysgenic freaks because they knew they didn't deserve rights.
They also deliberately added a way to legally change the Constitution. And that happened. You can change it back but you might want to have more than your sad bullshit reasons otherwise you won't be able to follow the process as outlined.

>>514851735 (OP)
Realistically speaking this wouldnt change much. Currently speaking the only way you can be barred gun ownership on grounds of mental illness is if you present a clear and present danger to yourself or others as adjudicated by a judge. A simple diagnosis (or in most cases even a 72hr involuntary hold) wont count against you

>>514851830
They qualify by their mere existence for every red flag law that Democrats have been ramming down people's throats at the state and local levels. That's all Trump's saying - you wrote those fucking laws, and if you don't enforce them where they obviously apply, we will.

Whats the problem exactly? Democrats said the mentally ill cant have guns. And red flag laws. Troons are turbo mentally ill and turbo red flag. You voted for this!

Trump is saving troon lives with this, stats show 63% of transgender gun owners use the weapon to take their own life. You're getting what you voted for AND someone in power finally values trans lives : Donald J Trump

>>514851735 (OP)

>first they came for the trannies...

no one who enjoys he 2A should be celebrating this suggestion

>>514874008
>If any right needs to be regulated, then congress needs to alter an amendment with enough votes to do so,
The other path is using text, history, tradition. Which is problematic because a felony conviction wasn't a prohibiting factor when it was written. Also, prohibiting weapons used by the military wasn't a thing.
And now that both rights violations are commonly accepted, non violent felonies are becoming normalized as well as bans on "fully semi automatic assault weapons" whatever that means.

>>514874170
>Democrats said the mentally ill cant have guns.
For the 1000th time, this is not true. You are only banned from purchasing guns from an FFL if you have been involuntarily committed to a mental institution. Mental illness alone is not enough.

>>514851735 (OP)
Turning leftist policies on themselves os peak irony.
They tried to ban guns, so we ban them from owning guns due to mental illness.
Win-win!

>>514851735 (OP)
Still supports my theory that reverse psychology is one way to build bipartisan support.

>>514874785
>they didn't succeed so we helped them. That'll show 'em!
So you are a gun grabber posing as something else. How novel. Unique even. Unprecedented. Never seen that before.

>>514851735 (OP)
He's got a point. Would be way safer to just ban being a tranny.

>>514874229
>they work for 50 years to disarm us
>we work for 5 seconds to disarm them

NOOOOOOOOOO OMG MUH CONSTITUTION MUH PRINCIPLES MUH HYPOCRISY MUH SLIPPERY SLOPE

Nigger just stfu. If you haven't bought and then lost a large stockpile of weapons and ammo in a tragic boating accident by now, you deserve whats coming.

>>514874545
Felon has morphed into any domestic conviction or any misdemeanor with a possible sentence of more than 365 days. If you do no time for a misdemeanor that had a punishment range of 0-366 days in jail, no gun for you. Some gun grabbing cunt just needs to go through state laws and make every misdemeanor have a possible punishment of 1 year and 1 day to widen the net.

>>514875070
>Nigger just stfu. If you haven't bought and then lost a large stockpile of weapons and ammo in a tragic boating accident by now, you deserve whats coming.
When it feels like it's time to bury a cache of guns, it's actually time to dig up your cache of guns. Because gun grabbers like yourself are coming.

>>514852698
>Democrats and blue cities don't exist in red states

>>514851735 (OP)
They are mentally ill.

>>514852985
You people are walking-talking hypocrites who only want power to further destroy and niggerfy my country so why would I let my enemies have weapons when you already do so in blue states that disarm conservatives stuck in them with their cucked gun laws? The Constitution protects citizens not fifth columnist Antifa commie scum.

>>514875655
>They are mentally ill.
Most gun grabbers are. Hoplophobia. It causes an irrational response to normal household items.

>>514851735 (OP)
> During WW2 nazis disarmed jews to render them defenseless
Is that why you want to disarm *us*?
To render *us* defenseless?
They are telling on themselves if you just listen.

>>514875813
>gun laws? The Constitution protects citizens
It says citizen in the 2A?

>>514859109
>Commie shit-libs are not petty and never do anything out of spite

>>514859249
Funny how they ignore numerous genocides that are happening right now worldwide and open slavery in Africa but only care about muh troons or Palestinians

>>514859490
It's happening right now in Ukraine you can look it up.

>>514851735 (OP)
homosexuals are next

>>514851735 (OP)
I don't think thats a good idea.
I think only those who have committed violent crime that caused direct physical harm to others and were convicted for that in a court of law may have their right to bear arms revoked.
Because if you take away the right to guns for those you deem "mentally ill", what prevents the next dictatorial asshole from either side just continuing.
>well unironic nazis are certainly mentally ill, they don't need guns
>proud boys don't need guns
>Maga ppl don't need guns, they are mentally ill, its for their own protection.
>desu there's gotta be something wrong with ppl who vote republican, take away their guns
>all americans who want guns are actually mentally ill, only those who truly need a gun (proffessional security, police, etc) need guns like the eurocucks.
Its a slippery slope.
How about anyone who is an adult and not a convicted violent felon can always buy a gun without having to state a reason, pass certain tests or checks or ask any quesstion etc. because its not the states business who and why an adult american wants to own a gun.
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>>514859570
>Calling troons incels
Racist

>>514875070
This misses the point entirely. True, nobody is getting my guns. But it's not about me, or you, or any individual. It's about reducing the amount of people overall with skin in the game by creating barriers to entry to the point that gun culture is lost and then sweeping away what's left becomes easy.

>>514861491
>We should allow our enemies to be armed because......it just says so okay!

>>514851735 (OP)
ATF Form 4473

Mental Illness is already on the lawbooks as a disqualifier of 2A Rights. Enforce the laws already established before pushing for more.

Personally, I don't think someone should own a weapon if they themselves don't know what gender they belong to.

>>514851735 (OP)
Oh no that sucks.

>>514852043
that could be based but trannies don't have the sentience to blame those who misled them. they just blame right wingers and Christians for "oppressing" them

>>514876250
>ATF Form 4473
>Mental Illness is already on the lawbooks as a disqualifier of 2A Rights
Go ahead and read the 4473. What it says is very different than "durr uhhhh mental illnesss huhhhhh"

Shadow projection by a man who has nothing to care about after giving up all chances at a future.

>>514876182
none of that would be possible if we just executed all leftoids and demoshit voters as the traitors they are.

>>514851735 (OP)
>be jewtrannyan
>instinctively identify with the mentally ill and the pedophiles
>somehow, also project about these vile, bloodthirsty and degenerated monsters somehow being persecuted when they start shit left and right
wew

>>514876250
Only if they have been involuntarily committed.

>THEY GONNA TAKE US GUNS WE GOTTA DEFEND THEM TRAINS RIGHTS
Probably the funniest, most unexpected turn things could take.
Trannies are mentally ill and as such should be locked in padded cells.

>>514852985
well regulated militia means no mental illness.

>>514876545
Where's the turn? I've been against all forms of gun control my entire adult life. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED has been a meme on this board for over a decade. And that's the real tragedy here. It's not the red flag law the government is toying with, the Supreme Court will just throw that into the trash if they dare try it. The real tragedy is the sudden loss of one of our best memes.

>>514876555
>well regulated militia means no mental illness.
Two dumb misconceptions, one sentence

>>514852726
You will never have free access to kids you troon.

>>514876709
what is a woman?

>>514851830
Fpwp jews invented trannies so bullshit like this can happen

>>514851735 (OP)
This nigga thinks paranoid schizophrenics should have guns

>>514876794
>what is a woman?
Yes, take this as the best moment to babble on about yourself. But show your tits first.

>>514851735 (OP)
I'm all for trans having guns for self defense but too often they've used them to murder Christians and children. When they snap under their demonic beliefs they attack the contrary, the Christians. And Christianity is the opposite of leftism in almost every way if you actually think about it.
Anyways it's been too much they only have themselves to blame at this point.
I do agree with taking guns away from them because they've proven they can't handle the privilege.

>>514851735 (OP)
Imagine being worried about trannies when jews are sending your countrymen into a meat grinder so they can steal your land.

>>514876250
>Mental Illness is already on the lawbooks
Incorrect, it is on a form written by an agency, with no legal definition of mental illness provided, rather deferring that determination to court orders. Meaning instead congress passing a law, they have made an agency that will violate your rights as they see fit based on a determination made by a judge, most likely in a county court.

>>514876907
>This nigga thinks paranoid schizophrenics should have guns
No, that's not what he's saying. You are just being paranoid. And possibly schizophrenic.

>>514877012
>doesn't answer
if you are prescribed medication that alters your brain and how it functions, you are mentally ill.

>>514851735 (OP)
Yeah but trannies are literally mentally ill people.

Sorry but trannies are the aggressors here not me. Pic related.
This is not an attack against trans, this is a retaliation.

>>514877248
See, the slippery slope has already started. Within a single thread. We start with trannies and now suddenly millions of non-tranny Americans are on the chopping block because they were prescribed anti-depressants or some other form of medication.

>>514877248
>doesn't answer
Oh, it seemed like you were starting a monologue. I didn't want to interrupt. I hear women hate when men just interrupt. What were you droning on about again? Something to do with you women I think...

>>514851735 (OP)
ukrainian "people" should be banned from entering the united states for being mentally ill faggots, i hope that nigger monke putin sends in a dedicated rape unit to your home town

>>514877392
people on anti-depressants should not be able to buy guns either.
because they are mentally ill.
>>514877398
>doesn't know what a woman is.

>>514877604
I think that's funny coming from a woman considering most anti-depressant users are women. So this isn't just about trannies then, this is a full swing gun grab aimed at a large swath of the American population. At least you're honest about that, an unusual trait for a woman. Anyway, you won't achieve anything with it because it's blatantly unconstitutional and will be thrown out, if they even try it. And all you'll be left with is millions of pissed off gun owners who you alienated because you tried to stab them in the back. Smart.

>>514877604
>I'm a gun grabber and I need you to know that I'm a woman
Now now dear, don't you have something else to do? Oh, of course not. My bad.

>>514877744
No, it won't. Red laws have survived and are allowed.
Trannies will be disarmed.

Thank the Minneapolis tranny

>>514877744
>So this isn't just about trannies then
see >>514877066
Being that trannys are now the most prolific mass shooters yea it's just about trannies.
We're getting pretty tired of seeing it.

>>514851735 (OP)
Right on fucking time. NOW they are against gun control. They will have all their talking points dismantled before 2026

>>514851735 (OP)
Troons who groom others into mutilating their bodies and have a bad tendency of shooting up churches and killing in cold blood are not going to use their guns for self-defense dumbass.

>>514851735 (OP)
>introduce problem -> offer solution
tranny spree killers -> gun control except BASED and REDPILLED

>>514877744
if you commit a crime with a gun while intoxicated it can become a felony.
SSRIs are a form of intoxication.
in many states it is illegal to carry while intoxicated.
I'm sorry you're mentally ill.
>>514877789
too much for you?
maybe pop another tranny pill?

>>514851735 (OP)
I hope he succeeds. Also open the lunatic asylums and put all the trannies in there. Great solution, it's about time somebody does this. Trump is pretty cool.

>>514877966
>too much for you?
>maybe pop another tranny pill?
You are more knowledgeable than me about being a woman and taking tranny pills. Maybe you can educate us about your experience? Is it easy to give up thinking? You make it look so easy.

>>514877882
Wrong. Some have been thrown out already, and several cases are still pending. But that's at the state level. Once the feds get involved in this shitshow, the Supreme Court will be forced to intervene and there's no way this is going to fly with them.
>>514877888
But the other anon said it's not just about trannies, she wants everyone on anti-depressants banned from guns too. The slippery slope has already started. You're already sliding down it.
>>514877966
It's not a question about "committing a crime with a gun." Committing crimes is already criminal, that's why it's called crime. This is about being able to purchase firearms from FFLs.

>>514878171
>the Supreme Court will be forced to intervene and there's no way this is going to fly with them.
I heard the other day that there was a lower court split on the legality of "assault weapon" bans. Sad day for anti gunners.

>>514878145
it is illegal to sell a gun to an intoxicated person.

>>514878171
>But the other anon said it's not just about trannies, she wants everyone on anti-depressants banned from guns too.
Well that's not on the menu despite what a random anon's opinion might be. Already, if you're a felon, you can't buy a gun. They ask you if you smoke pot, if you say yes, the seller won't sell you a gun. Even though I have no idea why that's an issue.
But the fact is trans are going on killing sprees fairly regularly. Even the female to male trannies have done too much, and natural born females aren't usually apt to go on killing sprees. They're a bunch of psychos.

>>514878379
Currently it is not illegal to sell firearms to people on anti-depressants.

>>514878379
>it is illegal to sell a gun to an intoxicated person.
Is that illegal in the room with you right now?

>>514878408
>They ask you if you smoke pot, if you say yes, the seller won't sell you a gun. Even though I have no idea why that's an issue.
Still federally illegal for "reasons".

>>514878408
"Some people are criminals" has never been a good excuse for gun control. Aside from the fact that gun control doesn't work, it only punishes those who aren't criminals and have no criminal intent. Lots of groups commit crime and could, under that logic, be swept up in gun control schemes.

>>514878451
Under 18 U.S.C. § 922(d), it is unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person “has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution.”

>>514878574
Again however, trans now do the most mass shootings. So yea it's an issue. Honestly? Transgenderism should be illegal at this point.
If that was the case, we wouldn't need gun control for them, they wouldn't exist.

>>514878650
Yes. People who take anti-depressants but have never been involuntarily committed can buy guns. Because they have not been involuntarily committed. You seem confused. I will chalk this up to the birth control you're probably taking, another form of intoxication.

>>514851735 (OP)
>persecuted minority
No

>>514878738
>has been adjudicated as a mental defective

>>514878687
Then that is the policy you should be advocating, not gun control which at just the very suggestion of, in this very thread alone, has started us down an absurd slippery slope. Mass shootings are not a good reason for gun control. There are other, better solutions.

>>514878650
>has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution
>Suddenly means whatever it needs to for the anti gunner
Do you lack the upper body strength to look up what things mean? Poor girl.

>>514878810
Yes. That means involuntarily committed. You obviously have never purchased a firearm and read the 4473 instructions (no surprise there). So I'll post the instructions to the question you're citing for you. They are as follows:

>Question 11.f. Adjudicated as a Mental Defective: A determination by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority that a person, as a result of marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease: (1) is a danger to himself or to others; or (2) lacks the mental capacity to contract or manage his own affairs. This term shall include: (1) a finding of insanity by a court in a criminal case; and (2) those persons found incompetent to stand trial or found not guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibility. Committed to a Mental Institution: A formal commitment of a person to a mental institution by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority. The term includes a commitment to a mental institution involuntarily. The term includes commitment for mental defectiveness or mental illness. It also includes commitments for other reasons, such as for drug use. The term does not include a person in a mental institution for observation or a voluntary admission to a mental institution.

>>514851735 (OP)
>be me
>open history books
>mass exodus/persecution/expelling of Jews
I still don't see a problem.

>>514878810
Any diagnosis isnt enough to be "mental defective," the bar is "threat to self or others" which would get you involuntarily committed in the first place

Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.

>>514878975
trannies are a threat to themselves.
they cut parts of themselves off and use drugs to modify their minds.

>>514878922
a doctor is a lawful authority.

>>514879171
You are still missing the point. If they have not been involuntarily committed to a mental institution, then they are not barred from buying guns from an FFL. Why do you think the DOJ is even considering a red flag in the first place? If it was already the law, what would there be to consider?

>>514851735 (OP)
facts above feelings
troons are mentally ill
niggers are not homo sapiens and thus not people

i dont like gun laws

>>514879208
Lmao no they are not. And that is not an adjudication. Nor is it a commitment, the instructions for 11.f (or whatever the new question number is, I think it got swapped a couple years ago) is talking about commitments.

>>514879208
>a doctor is a lawful authority.
Be a good girl and read the entire passage

>>514879263
>>514879357
>A determination by a
>lawful authority that a person
>is a danger to himself
I guess SSRIs do not really qualify under this definition, but trannies do.

>>514879436
>I guess SSRIs do not really qualify under this definition, but trannies do.
Oh?

>>514879436
You're still not taking in the full context. It has to be a COMMITMENT upon the determination that they are a danger to themselves or others. In other words, a court has to sentence them to spend time in a loony bin.

>>514879485
voluntarily cutting parts of yourself off and voluntarily taking medication that alters your mind qualifies as self-harming mental illness.
>>514879566
"has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution"
>mental defective or has been committed
>or

>>514851942
>this will get overturned on 2A grounds immediately
scotus has already ruled that it is not a 2a violation to prohibit the mentally ill from possessing firearms

>>514879792
Your reading comprehension is a credit to women everywhere. It goes on to define what adjudication as a mental defective means:

>(1) a finding of insanity by a court in a criminal case; and (2) those persons found incompetent to stand trial or found not guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibility.

And what do you think happens to people who are found insane or incompetent to stand trial? They're let go? No, they get sentenced to mental facilities. It's just a mechanism (called diminished capacity) to keep the criminally insane out of regular prisons because they have their own prisons/units.

>>514879263
>they have not been involuntarily committed to a mental institution
they would be if transgenderism was not removed from the DSM

>>514879792
>voluntarily cutting parts of yourself off
First things first- Are you excluding ones that go to a doctor for removal because they aren't doing the incisions themselves?

>>514879915
No they have not. Once again, only upon involuntary commitment are they barred, and that is because due process is applied in those cases. Banning the mentally ill from purchasing a firearm without any sort of adjudication is bypassing due process.

>>514880050
Then how come your cause is gun control and not trying to get trannies committed to mental institutions? What good do you hope to achieve by pissing off gun owners by striking at the branches instead of striking at the root?

>>514851735 (OP)
Volodymyr, you are brainwashed by LGBTQ Europoor propaganda. Don't worry, your based Russian brothers are coming to liberate you.

>>514879291
Banning guns is never the answer. Banning troons and niggers is.

>>514880029
>>Question 11.f. Adjudicated as a Mental Defective: A determination by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority that a person, as a result of marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease: (1) is a danger to himself or to others; or (2) lacks the mental capacity to contract or manage his own affairs. This term shall include: (1) a finding of insanity by a court in a criminal case; and (2) those persons found incompetent to stand trial or found not guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibility. Committed to a Mental Institution: A formal commitment of a person to a mental institution by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority. The term includes a commitment to a mental institution involuntarily. The term includes commitment for mental defectiveness or mental illness. It also includes commitments for other reasons, such as for drug use. The term does not include a person in a mental institution for observation or a voluntary admission to a mental institution.
1) is a danger to himself or to others
>>514880058
a doctor does it for money and because there is nothing legally preventing them from preforming the surgery.
i see them as mentally ill victims.
the doctors are their enablers.
destruction of form is obvious mental illness.

>>514851735 (OP)
>find out for yourself where this leads.
Stopping the mentally ill from harming themselves and others makes perfect sense.

>>514880294
>the doctors are their enablers.
and rapists.
by definition.

>>514851735 (OP)
>flag
Get vanned, faggot.

Leftists wanted red flag laws and the ability to take people's guns. Being a troon or a leftist is a red flag and a mental health issue. Leftists made no attempt to defend gun rights previously.

>>514851735 (OP)
>0.11% of mass shootings done by trans and non-binary identifying people
Really makes you think

>>514880294
>A doctor gets paid for their work and that makes a difference
So anyone who gets a surgery or does it have to be elective to count?
Your anti gun shit is, as always, so hard to pin down. It flows randomly like the feminine mind.

>98% of mass shootings done by males
Should we ban men from owning guns?
Surely mass shootings would stop overnight?

>>514880294
And? What's your point? We've already gone over this. A court or other lawful authority has to do that adjudication. And no, doctors are not lawful authorities, they are experts that can be used by lawful authorities as witnesses and that's different. Once again I'll ask you, if, according to you, this law is already settled, then what is the DOJ considering? What would there be to consider? Can you give it a name?

>>514851895
Gimme that list
22 countries you say?
We'll sort this out now......
Stay tuned.

>>514851869
>Trans folk
it's folkx you fucking NAZI BIGOT

>>514851735 (OP)
They are mentally ill and they shouldn’t own guns until they are declared mentally healed. If you can’t manage your affairs and confused about gender you are. You’ve completely lost your mind. Trannies also want to kill themselves. So yeah they should forfeit their rights to own guns. Veterans have been attacked in the past over PTSD. They’ve had their 2A rights trampled on. So it’s only fair to do this to insane Trannies.

>>514880588
Fuck off retard

>>514863735
No - why should we nkt disarm our opponents?

Thinking that the left won't try to disarm us if we dont disarm them is lunacy. Either they get with the program and come around to 2a rights, we disarm trannies so it will be easier to eradicate them or the left continues trying to take guns from whites so we can be eradicated.

We fight the enemy. Don't be a bitch.

>>514851869
Lol

>>514851735 (OP)
You're right. Troons should be locked up instead.

>>514880624
>They’ve had their 2A rights trampled on.
And that was wrong. But in your mind, it means that it was right.
Interesting to see how anti gunners prefer to not think.

>>514880686
You're a gun grabber. YOU are the enemy.

>>514851895
And what's more, I see the Ukraie is one, well in the 1850's we fought the Russians in the Crimean Penninsula, wasn't exactly a fuckin invite was it?
So that makes 21 for starters and I'm not even off the fuckin sofa, pffffftttt this is gunna be easy.

>>514863611
Exactly. Banning trannies from owning guns is a huge win. Either the left defends the 2a with us, or we succeed at what they try to do to white people- take our guns to eradicate us.

>>514880686
>we disarm trannies
Who is this "we", gun grabber? SHALL NOT

>>514880799
But you're not defending the 2A.

>>514880785
Ukraine

>>514851735 (OP)
Уpинявый жидoпидop, ты нaдeюcь c фpoнтa пишeшь, paз тaк зa ЛГБT кoпpoтивляeшьcя?

>>514851869
You'll regret coming for our guns immensely. Try and take them.

>>514880470
the self-harm is always elective.
you've removed a function of your form for no reason other than mental illness.
>>514880542
they write prescriptions and preform surgeries.
the DOJ is most likely considering harm.
that's what scotus considers.
is permanently removing a function of your form harmful?
and that's pretty much the definition of harm.
doctors have harmed a mentally ill person.
the name is
harm.
and it is in question 11.
#1
harm.

>>514880744
OK tranny. Say bye bye to your guns. I will continue to buy better equipped ones than you can afford.

Do you think we should have let Japanese people livinh in America during ww2 have guns? If you do - you are a traitor. You dont let your enemies kill you.

Do you think that George Washington let British loyalists have guns? No.

>>514851735 (OP)
Why do Ukrainians even think about this stuff. Aren’t you guys broke?

>>514851735 (OP)
Bold of you to assume they would open a book LOL

>>514880959
>the self-harm is always elective.
>you've removed a function of your form for no reason other than mental illness.
So any elective surgery then. How about self harm like when you and the girls got your ears irreversibly modified by a piercer? Or the time you got that tramp stamp?
It seems obvious that your opinion should be thrown out because you are by your own definition crazy.

>>514880959
Writing prescriptions and performing surgeries does not make you a legal authority. Doctors cannot unilaterally commit people to mental institutions, they need a court order to do that. They can only act as witnesses when called by the court to do so. And you didn't really answer my question. If, according to you, this is already the law, then what is there for the DOJ to consider? They are considering something that already exists? Obviously not. They are considering making a federal red flag law that doesn't already exist. And what the Supreme Court will consider is that this is a blatant violation of the 5th Amendment's Due Process Clause, because it is. Which is why the DOJ won't even do this, they're just A/B testing.

>>514880828
We is the united states government. If you think that allowing your enemies to be armed is a good thing, you care more about guns than white families and you are mega cringe. Lmao "shall"... I bet you cant even afford nfa full auto guns you broke ass.

>>514851869
>folk
*folx

>>514880197
my cause is getting rid of jews and right now jews are pushing trannies so this hurts jews

>>514881193
>If you think that allowing your enemies to be armed is a good thing
But you're against the constitutional amendments, anon. That makes YOU the enemy.

>>514880960
I'm not a tranny. And actually, as part of the Treaty of Paris that ended the Revolutionary War, it was stipulated that we would treat former loyalists lawfully and integrate them into American society, and we did. In the end, you're just a gun grabber. You have the mentality of a liberal yourself, as you rail against liberals. The very fact that you even think gun control works is a left-wing POV. They have captured your mind.

>>514851928
You are a nigger yourself you swarthy kike

>>514881193
Yes, I care more about firearms than kike dogs like you who act no different from progressive lunatics simply because your kike daddy is in office.

>>514881274
Has it not occurred to you that they pushed trannies (among other things) to sow precisely this sort of discord so they could introduce policies that they have long lobbied for, like gun control? Has it occurred to you that you're being their useful idiot?

>>514851735 (OP)
Shall not be infringed is correct. Everyone should have a firearm, and there should be stand you ground law across the nation, federal conceal carry reciprocity, and no more gun free zones.

Its too bad democrats with the help of the nra created the background check system for all firearm purchases.

Trump is just enforcing what's already law at this point. Its up to congress or a supreme court ruling to end background checks.

On the bright side, ropes are still legal for trannies

>>514881119
>>514881119
>ears irreversibly modified by a piercer? Or the time you got that tramp stamp?
does that remove a function of your form?
>>514881163
can you choose to self-harm and not be mentally ill?
not if it permanently inhibits or destroys a function of your form.
Doctors have a duty to report.

Those hormones fuck with your head. It can take time for a person to mentally restabilize to where they were before the treatment. This is what they are considering. Troons are the craziest during a transition. There would have to be non bias research on tranny mental health to regulate when can a tranny be considered sane enough to buy a gun.

>>514877066
christcucks deserve it for praying to sky santa i hope u get shot by a troon in the next shooting

>>514881511
>does that remove a function of your form?
Some guys prefer piercing free non tattooed girls without your body count so yes.

We'd love to see you try. Never forget that Luigi printed his own weapon.

>>514881511
That depends on how you define self-harm, I suppose. Are athletes mentally insane because injury is inevitable and they know that when they sign up to be athletes? Is that the next stop on your slippery slope? And doctors have a duty to report, but they have no power to commitment. A doctor can't say, "ah, my patient, I am putting you in an insane asylum today." He has to get a court order for that.

>>514881274
This. Hopefully you also care about protecting white families and children.

We dont allow POWs to have guns. Low IQ right wingers who have no critical thinking besides shouting "SHALL NOT" think that restricting our enemies (jews, trannies, etc) from having guns is bad.

Either thr left will be forced to defend the 2A and we win or we take our enemies guns before they can be taken from us. The left is hellbent on taking our guns to eradicate white people.

We didn't allow German POWs in WW2 to keep guns in America. Why? Allowing your enemies to be armed is foolish.

>>514881300
George Washington disarmed his enemies you fool. Blinded by your fear of winning, you will be destroyed.

>>514881319
If you think taking guns away from a population to disarm and destroy them is impossible - then there is no point arguing with you. Gun control works lmao. That's why you are afraid of it :)

>>514881666
POWs are prisoners. We already disarm prisoners because they have gone through due process. This is about BYPASSING due process and allowing the state to say "an entire group of people can be banned from buying guns because we say so" without any sort of due process. And if you think that wouldn't come back to haunt you, you're crazy. Not that it matters, this will never hold up in the Supreme Court. And I doubt the DOJ will even go through with this anyway.

>>514881658
slippery slope is logical fallacy.
it doesn't say you must have been committed it says it includes being committed, and self-harm, which a doctor is already required to report.

>>514881454
This is a possibility. As of now you have to be adjudicated mentally unwell to be denied a firearm. Could change if nics is ever linked with your medical history. Right now they are just reacting to the latest headline news shooting and trying to enforce what's already on the books. A tranny would have to commit a crime first and then a judge would have to send them to the loony bin

>>514881858
I'm actually not afraid of it, I know how this will end. My concern here is actually about you sneaky little weasels pretending to be right-wing and infiltrating our space.

>>514851735 (OP)
Body dysmorphia is a mental disorder. The recent peak of trans mass shooters are evidence.The 40% suicide rate on MtFs should be enough to get everyone on this group locked up for their own safety, but here we are.

>>514851735 (OP)
Rather than put on a show of logic, let's cut through the posturing.

Transgenders are being abused by liberals to act as suicide bombers. They have a high suicide rate and that's not implicitly Republican's fault.

Transgender rights means homosexual rights, an issue that is phony from both parties who use homosexuality to drive the public away from issues that they don't want to get close scrutiny.

Transgenders are seemingly an invented thing to keep people hidden in their bedrooms and not trying to engage in our society. This is likely because society can't stop valuing their dog pack mentality and this particular group isn't coping with the bullying that goes along with being vulnerable.

I'd love to talk all day about it but I'd rather drown in a vat of acid....pretty much like everyone else. Can we just get past this and say that liberals and conservatives are very close to the point of a shooting war, so why doesn't someone man up and pull the trigger rather than fuck over everyone, themselves included, with their sneaking around in the shadows trying to castrate people in a chimp effort to become an alpha?

>>514872110
Even the right wing has fallen in love with bolshevism and the soviet union. The only thing that can pry humanity away from its love affair with bolshevism (satanism) is, in all likelihood, simple hunan extinction. Notmgroids have made the rndevil their god and it is only a matter of time before tbis world is completely transformed into hell.

>>514881948
It requires an adjudication and doctors are not capable of adjudicating anything because they do not have that authority. And it's not a fallacy: You yourself have already gone down the slippery slope when you said people on anti-depressants should also be barred from buying guns because they are mentally ill too.

>>514852985
I look forward to shooting you in the street

>>514881433
If you care more about inanimate objects that are tools to defeat your enemy than about defeating your enemies - you won't win.

Why do you think the left wants to take your guns but not criminal blacks? Because they want to disarm you.

We are going to ban trannies from having guns and if your blind ideology doesnt see how this aides the cause of protecting white American families - you are blind. They are already coming for your guns. If you are too weak to win and turn the tables on your foes, you won't win.

>>514881454
oh we get to speculate on the jews and who might be their usefuoll idiots? ok!
it is equally possible that he jews are using you as a useful idiot, hijacking your love of the constitution to extend terrorism firepower to a group that will never respect the constitution
if we went back in time and asked the founding fathers if troons should get guns, without giving any more information so as not to upset the timestream, what would they say?
>a man that rebels against america shall not have guns, but i guess if you only rebel against yourself and cut your dick off you are perfectly fit to carry my boy!

>>514874700
Normies are absolute retards anon

>>514882214
I'd love to see you try. More of us are getting armed every day. Rest assured we're ready.

>>514867497
Lol cope, the ledt won't fight it on 2a merits and you know it. The whole discourse will be about troonism ans if it is a mental disorder or not. Wildly shitty take anon.

>>514882220
We already know what the founding fathers would say, they wrote it down and made it into law lol. They would say: A well-regulated militia, being necessary to secure a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. That is what they would say. If they intended to say something else they would have said it. Your entire concept of gun control would be alien to them. It is a liberal invention of the 20th century that you have adopted for yourself.

>>514881738
>George Washington disarmed his enemies you fool
I'll remember that when those of us that enjoy the constitution have to deal with your ilk.

>>514882363
all the founding fathers were alive for shays rebellion and all the founding fathers were alive for massachusetts 1786 gun control law so you obviously never cracked a history book in your entire life

>>514875070
>>514875301
Guns don’t matter at ALL. Naughtygoy science projects we can’t mention here are what matter. Ask yourself why they meticulously purged all old chemistry books. Ask yourself why they come raid your house in england if you grow tomatoes.

>>514851830
>>514874157
>>514852985
Alpaca Auschwitz run by trannies

>picrel
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw597xbZVcY&pp=ygUYVHJhbnNnZW5kZXIgYWxwYWNhIHJhbmNo2AYS

>>514881923
Then Great if it doesnt hold up! Then we win for gun rights!

But if you think for a second that supreme court rulings will stop the future young extreme left from trying to disarm YOU - or other white men - you are mistaken.

>>514882008
I care about white families and the expulsion of jews. I dont care if you think Im a weasel for promoting the disarmament of my enemies.

>>514882008
>My concern here is actually about you sneaky little weasels pretending to be right-wing and infiltrating our space.
This.
Gun grabbers need to invent new realities to push their anti gun nonsense.
>I voted republican my entire life but I want common sense gun control blah blah
Anti gunners have a long history of playing make believe to push their agenda.

>>514882436
Lmao, Shays' rebellion was a rebellion, and the series of laws (it wasn't one law, go crack a history book yourself) weren't about gun control, they were about controlling and preventing rebellions and punishing the rebels who participated in the rebellion. That is not remotely the same as preventing people from owning guns.

>>514881858
You most certainly could exert more control over a population with gun control. It also leaves the nation more vulnerable to attack from others. What gun control doesn't do is stop gun violence, especially USA. If the goal is to stop gun violence then gun control shouldn't even be considered. We have already tried it. Abolishing all weapons wouldn't even stop gun violence. USA has more firearms than people. Not to mention you would open up one hell of a black market through the southern border.

>>514882437
>Ask yourself why they meticulously purged all old chemistry books.
Is that why my personal library was so cheap?

>>514882463
I don't think it will stop them from trying, but it will stop them from succeeding, at least with red flags. Once the Supreme Court makes it clear red flags are unconstitutional they will have to pursue another avenue of gun control. And they will, and hopefully that too will be ruled unconstitutional.

>>514882550
You're a weasel because you have adopted a liberal mindset of believing gun control is an effective solution to problems and are willing to jeopardize what remains of our gun rights in the pursuit of gun control, all while pretending to be right-wing while you push leftism.

>>514882685
>they will have to pursue another avenue of gun control
And they will again pretend to be us to build a false sense of consensus.

>>514882155
doctors are a legal authority required to report self-harm.
I think people on antidepressants should not be able to buy guns because they are mentally ill but it is lawfully difficult for me at least to prove they are a threat, that is not the case with trannies, their entire state of mind is self-harm.

>>514882564
Yeah, it's pretty obvious there is another agenda here that isn't so much about "protecting" people from mass shootings as just throwing up more barriers to entry for gun ownership.

>>514882870
>I think
doubt.jpg

>>514882870
Doctors are NOT a legal authority. You seem to think a requirement to follow a law makes you a legal authority. If that were true, we'd all be legal authorities. You're just ridiculous.

>>514851830
...based

>>514852726
Do you live in a blue state? If so, might I have your address so I can report you to your state’s version of Daddy Newsom or Mommy Hochul?

I’m a good soeboy, I assure you. I trust the so¥ence.

I promise you’ll be rehabilitated. I’m only doing what I know is best for you

I even use Plebbit spacing.

>>514882617
I dont care about stopping gun violence. My enemies seek to disarm me and eradicate my people. Failing to return the courtesy to them gains me nothing.

My enemies understand that disarming me forces a position of violence or compliance. If you fail to see the implications of applying similar tactics to them, I fear we shall never agree upon this issue.

>>514851735 (OP)
>>514851830
Trump obviously doesn’t give a flying fuck about the constitution. He said himself he believes in confiscation before trial. Amazing that America is now a land of tyrants. The founding fathers would be sick. Half of them were tyrant hypocrites themselves though.

>>514878810
>adjudicated

>>514882971
you are legally required a prescription from a doctor to get opiate pills.
that's a legal authority that doctors have.
and my point was, like your "doctors can not have you involuntarily committed" was that they are legally required to report self-harm.
If you define body dysphoria as self-harm then it would only be one step from legal disarmament.

>>514883009
it's bonkers that you think establishing a precedent of allowing the state to categorically ban groups of people from owning guns will somehow prevent them from using that against you. Right over here you have an anon (granted, she's a woman, and so therefore her brain is not fully functional) telling you that she is ready to go with expanding this matter beyond mere trannies into all forms of mental illness. What's next? She even dodged a question about whether or not athletes should be included in this sweeping gun grab because they commit a form of self-harm when they sign up to be injured in sports. How long until it gets around to a group you belong to?

>>514883129
>He said himself he believes in confiscation before trial
I wonder what the founding fathers meant by having checks and balances. It's almost like our founding fathers previously dealt with a government that preferred gun confiscation.

>>514882998
Cope. Luigi armed himself. Expect more of that.

>>514883203
>was that they are legally required to report self-harm
So, back to piercings I see. Go girl!

>>514883203
That does not make them a legal authority, that merely means they have a legal privilege of writing prescriptions, a privilege that is entirely dependent on actual legal authorities approving it, and a privilege that can be taken away from them by actual legal authorities. Can one doctor take the prescription privilege away from another doctor that is not under his employ? No? Then how is he a legal authority? A court can do that. And one step removed is still removed. A doctor has to report harm to who? To an actual legal authority. That is the whole point of the requirement to report: Because he does not have the authority to act.

>>514882685
Ah. "Hopefully that will be ruled unconstitutional".

The court pack will occur the second the left has the power to do so. The constitution is powerful, but will only be relevant for so long as its followed. Relying on it to preserve human rights will only see failure in the coming generations.

You fight with what you have while you have it. I say disarm the trannies. They would surely try to do the same and worse to me should they be in power.

Failing to do so will not see the security of your rights as you seem to believe, alas the opposite.

>>514883246
All I know is they believed men had a right to revolution if they weren’t free. If they saw the modern police state that is now America they would immediately call for the arrests of those involved for treason. God gives free will and tyrants take it away. The founders believed in that right to resist tyranny.

>>514883383
Come and take it.

>>514883383
>I say disarm the trannies
Of course you do. Common sense gun control. For the children even. Fucking gun grabber.

>>514883383
You keep circling around to the notion that the left will always try to disarm us. Yes, we all know that. Of course they will. But if you give them the means by which to do that, you don't make that more difficult for them to achieve, you make it easier for them to achieve. If you throw up obstacles to them doing that you make it harder to achieve. Red flag laws make it easier for them to do it. Stopping red flag laws makes it harder for them to do it. I don't understand how this is confusing.

>>514883305
>cutting your dick off is just like getting your ears pierced UwU
>>514883372
so a court will bar gun purchasing on the report of the doctor.

>>514883528
Maybe. They will have a hearing and decide after reviewing the evidence in that hearing. We have a term for this: Due process. What you want to do is bypass due process because it is in the way of an agenda that you have deemed more important than your own rights.

>>514883528
>>cutting your dick off is just like getting your ears pierced UwU
Both qualify as self harm that doesn't result in being involuntarily institutionalized. Awwww did you think your self harm was special and therefore doesn't count?

>>514883212
You miss the implications I mentioned. Do you see a gun grab against you as a cause for anything? Any reaction you would have? How do you think they will react? How will that play out? I think favorably to my cause. Very favorably.

I see it better to force a reaction of my enemies now while we control the department of defense.

I agree though, should no reaction occur, that red flag laws could/would be applied to my group of people (white men with children). But they will try that anyway - so I say take the trannies guns and the die will be cast.

>>514883617
I described due process already in effect.
The only thing that need be done is doctors required to report tranny self-harm.
>>514883648
I have no piercings or tattoos so it wouldn't bother me but neither of those things disable or measurably inhibit any function of the human body.
Mutilation and sterilization do, not only physically but mentally.