Thread 514854574

What are the truth behind the mass push on TRT, trenbolone, MK677 Etc?

They want your heart to explode at 40 for population control

>>514854574 (OP)
gay
testo enentat is the way
but still gay

>>514854574 (OP)
Zoomers are vain and want to look jacked without much effort. They're also stupid.

>>514854574 (OP)
just throw more plates on the bar/ dumbell, enough already with this troon chemistry posing as masculinity

>>514854574 (OP)
Trenbolone and HGH works, but it will negatively affect your body's ability to produce hormones naturally. If you get into it, be prepared to keep going for life. For many people it's a good decision to make. I would also recommend consuming nicotine either by gum, pouches, or vaping.

>>514854574 (OP)
Couple of things.
First, getting on Test will get you jacked like crazy, and make you super confident, and generally happier. You remember how good and awesome and self-assured you were when you were like 18? Yeah, test will do that to you when you're 35. Lot's of upsides to getting on even maintenance doses of test. But a 20 year old going on blast? Unless they have test issues, there's not much point. They're already redlining test at that age naturally.
Now trenbolone acetate. Fucking stay away, sir. That's for really serious users. Shit'll make you gay. Make you angry. Make your heart go wonky. Give you titties.
>Source: I've been in the gym/fitness industry for my whole adult life. Never taken the stuff. Seen what happens when people take the stuff.

>>514854574 (OP)
The bloodwork and medical care for chronic steroid users is crazy expensive and makes them lifelong patients. The steroids themselves aren’t that expensive but all the blood testing and arimidex and gyno surgery and shit that goes with it is a crazy benefit to the medical industry because it makes you a lifelong patient

>>514854574 (OP)
Your heart will explode once you hit middle age

>>514854903
Can confirm. I'm on TRT the past 4 years and my gym buddy convinced me to run some Tren awhile back too. Holy fuck does that shit work. Got strong af real quick, but the sides were crazy. I literally wanted to fuck any woman I saw above a 3, and beat the shit out of any guy that looked at me. Even the decent-sized niggers in the gym kind of shyed away, and yes I would have fought any of them and I was only 6'0", 220 at about 10% (ai do have amateur boxing experience and a little bjj). I was like the NPC that aggroed on anyone that walked too close. I had a moment of clarity and stopped before I killed somebody. I think this was only 3-4 weeks into a planned 8 week cycle.

Of course my gym buddy laughed at me and said
>dude just take less then
He has a point. I may hit it again at like 1/4 the bro-science dosage and see what happens. But it's no joke.

For you zoomer anons with low test and no aggression or motivation, I would recommend test though. Get your k vela checked. I'm at around 1,000-1,100 typically. Feels good man

>>514855170
I did have another gym buddy whose heart exploded at 48, but he was also a fat slob and did all kinds of recreational drugs too. For every one of him there are a dozen Schwarzeniggers and Stallones running around just fine in their 70s though.

>>514854574 (OP)
Don’t do it. You’ll develop steroid induced psychosis and suppress your test levels while looking like a Jersey Shore character. Youll develop pelvic floor dysfunction too and wont ejaculate properly again, ever. Then youll end up in jail or a psych ward after the juice sends you nuts. Think of Elliott Paige hitting the Trenbolone and frequenting a shooting range and thats how society will view you. Totally stable lol.

>>514854826
Whats the benefit of nicotine

>>514856614
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1859921/

>>514856701
Thanks, norbrom8fren

I use vapes, will i die of lung problems?

>>514854903
I do a crazy cocktail of tren+boldenone or deca+test while regulating with tamoxifen+cabergoline after the cycle ends I use HCG to regain my balls. I use mild doses and only before summer for 2 months. I'm 45 and never had a problem. and I've been doing this shit like forever.

>>514854903
>Test will get you jacked like crazy, and make you super confident, and generally happier
Except when you get horrible ache everywhere. That's not so fun.

>>514856797
Probably not, but who the fuck knows at this point, I just use snus (pouches).
On topic, would not consider straight up roids today, not when SARMs and peptides are available.

>>514854826
I use pouches and have done since i was 15, quit smoking ciggs and switches over to pouches but i doubt its healthy as in norway they need to put small amounts of tobacco in it, also considering the microplastics in it but i will use it until they day my heart stops so good to see some benefits

>>514856701
>>514856797
Nicotine isn't bad for you, the byproducts of its various delivery systems are what's bad for you. Take cigarettes and cigars as an example. With vaping in particular, most problems come from the flavorings themselves, but if you use unflavored e-juice that is just vegetable glycerin, polypropylene glycol, and nicotine, it's perfectly fine.

There's also good evidence to suggest that nicotine increases your testosterone levels, though in many studies it's admittedly unclear whether it's caused by the fact that high T men are simply more likely to consume nicotine.

>>514857051
ekte

>>514856865
Are you on TRT? Or do you just cycle the test? Also how's Uruguay? I have a financial advisor trying to get me to buy property down there. I hear there are a lot of White people but I'm suspicious, having been to Argentina.

Just got my first blood test results back, how fucked am I? 33, natty. Everything else was all good, overall very healthy but im stressing about the Free T, im going to make some lifestyle changes and bought a load of vitamins today, will retest in 8 weeks, any advice ?

>>514857259
>white people
if you consider me white, then yes, most people have my tone of skin since we didn't have slaves and we killed all the indians in the "Massacre of Salsipuedes" look it up. we descend from spaniards, swiss and italians mostly.
>Are you on TRT? Or do you just cycle the test?
I only do one cycle per year and only use very mild doses, I do it for recreational purposes and I like to be lean and cut, I don't like the bulk look.
>buying property here
buy a flat or a house in punta del este or near punta del este, it's good and very posh and fun in the summer.

>>514857414
Fuck i thought this was a /fit/ thread, sorry

>>514854574 (OP)
I don't want to go bald cockless and die of a stroke at 35 just so women still dont like me

>>514854574 (OP)
It sterilizes you and makes you a tranny

>>514857414
Boron is one of the best ways to control SHBG anon.

>>514857577
Skinny but ripped, not bad, I'd totally do you (no homo). I don't know if I'd be chopping wood with a watch on though, great way to pop a link.

I've been to BA, Salta and some other city in Argentina that I forget. Didn't do it for me. Iguazu Falls was fantastic though. I'll have to check out Uruguay. I'm fairly swarthy and 20% Italian so I should blend in, other than being 220lbs. Are the women sluts and whores there also?

>>514857414
Bro get on some test and see how you feel, those numbers are lowwwww. Does your dick even work?

>>514858335
If i take boron i get big puss lumps in my ears and nose. Ive noticed it multiple times. Now iver stopped completely and no problem

Gay coded

>>514856865
>>514857577
What does your diet consist like in terms of macros? How much protein/carb/fat do you consume daily?

>>514855646
Took rad160 for a month and had 1200mg/dl test and agree with the rage you get from it. Took Mk677 with it and it was funny the amount of people saying hello and me taking it like a fucking schizo.

>>514854574 (OP)
They want to destroy your natural testosterone production so you troon out when you go off them.

It's a psyops to get people to kill themselves faster. Gym culture is very toxic and they've got you exercising too much like a slave with very little recovery. The training methods and diets they teach you in gyms are made to weaken you and kill you. If you cut out carbohydrates, you will be weak. If you workout high rep and high intensity for 5 days a week you will burn out and get yourself very hurt. The goy cattle are doing too much at the gym! Just stop, learn to be infrequent and only be intense while doing low reps and 1 set.

>>514858285
ok I'll stay away

>>514858429
this Tissot is pretty sturdy I never take it off, I even train with it, row with it, etc.

220 lbs seems like a lot, I'm 165 lbs@5'10''. but maybe you are taller than me or really bulky

women are sluts everywere, but maybe here less slutty than europeans or americans. we used to be very conservative only 3 decades ago.

>>514858581
I just eat clean. homemade meals consist of grilled meats and salads. I mostly drink uncarbonated water and skimmed milk. keep it under 1800 kcal except on weekends when I drink a few shots of scotch and maybe eat a pizza. I don't use any supplements like vitamins or whey prot or minerals. just gear and food.

>>514854698
This is SPIC gets it

>>514854574 (OP)
gay

>>514859061
>220 lbs seems like a lot
Yeah I'm fairly bulky I'm only 6'0" but still fairly lean. I was smaller when I was younger but between the TRT and years of lifting I've gotten a lot bigger. I live in a big liberal shitfuck of a city too and we have jet black retard gorilla niggers to contend with. No joke. I have a warehouse deep behind enemy (nigger and spic) lines and being larger and meaner than average has probably saved me a handful of times. Had guns drawn on me, lots of threats, typical chimpout stuff. Even though you're in great shape you would be what we call "victim weight" over here. My Dad has dainty little rich Spanish business partners that weigh about 150 each and they always trip out on my build when they see me lol Little mincy faggots. Just wait until you get more niggers, you'll see.

>>514857705
no worries

>>514858153
lmao very real

>>514859400
I don't really mind being lean, I never leave home without my trusty beretta 75. It's not easy to get a carrying permit here now, but I got mine back in 2005 when my country was less cucked and I just renew it every 10 years. poor millenials and zoomers are fucked.

>>514859651
I meant CZ 75* I don't have a permit for the brwning

>>514859651
Do you need the handgun? What's the crime rate like down there? I just assumed that with no niggers and few indios it would be relatively peaceful. Maybe it's just in case of vacationing brazilians

>>514854574 (OP)
there isn't a mass push it's just in your algorithm

>>514859755
I don't NEED a hundgun but it makes me feel safer when I'm on the road. it's full of crazy motherfuckers out there like everywere else, you just have to have enough bad luck to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

>>514854666
holy trips of truth

If you want to roid rage you will and if you don't you won't. Doesn't change anything

>>514859837
Based. It's getting late for me, I'm out. Nice talking with you, urubro. Leave me some tips on what to see and do in Uruguay, I'll leave the tab open and check tomorrow unless a jannie gets to this thread first. Adios

>>514854574 (OP)
>be me 33 year old skinny fat taco
>been taking this vet juice 3ml a week for 3 months already
>first roid cycle ever
>seen good results, mass and stamina increased but i stopped 3 weeks ago, go to the gym 5 days a week/2 hours per day
>i've never been this strong in my life and i feel great but i stopped 3 weeks ago because a buddy told me i should be mindful of my kidneys and liver
should I continue or stop for a year like the uruguayian anon said?
is this juice dangerous?

>>514859990
Peak performance in sports is almost always debt to the future health. Prolonged increased methabolism indeed wears off your organs and tissues

>>514854826
>HGH works
elaborate on that, Im getting mixed responses on that, kinda strongly polarized. Even the internet schtizo's opinions are divided

>>514859990
never listen to an uruguayan
trust me

>>514857224
>There's also good evidence to suggest that nicotine increases your testosterone levels, though in many studies it's admittedly unclear whether it's caused by the fact that high T men are simply more likely to consume nicotine.
I really dislike this argument, if you want "high T" just hop on TRT, cut out the middle man

>>514860220
Increasing your test levels naturally is good because it signals your body to produce more. Injecting it signals your body to produce less since you have an external source.

>>514859960
If you decide to come here, maybe you should consider renting a property for a year or 2 before buying, just to see if you like it first.
Avoid the capital at all costs, we have a lot of good places here but Montevideo isn't one of them.
I recomend visiting: Punta del Este, La Barra, Cabo Polonio, Colonia del Sacramento and Minas.
Buy a kayak and fishing gear, we have a lot of good rivers.
use Antel provider for celphone service and starlink for internet access if you are in the countriside.
don't trust immigrants if you go to the capital especially venezuelans and cuban niggers. there are not so many but there are some in the capital.
if you buy a car buy Mazda or Honda or BYD if you are on a budget.
If you meet a good woman you may shack up but don't marry, the family laws here are terrible.
nothing futher occurs to me to add.
good luck burgerbro.

>>514860321
>Increasing your test levels naturally is good because it signals your body to produce more. Injecting it signals your body to produce less since you have an external source.
Im not saying to, but my understanding is that your body cannot really discern between a natural test, and synthetic. They way it happens is your test is independent of other variables, and once it gets high for longer, your body starts to down-regulate within the same dimension. Someone with a proper knowledge could back me up tho

>>514857577

Damn you really need to lift heavier. Your steroid gains are extremely weak.

>>514854574 (OP)
This and hormones to troons is the exact same thing.

>>514858498
This is the weird thing, i have an extremely high libido, I have no issue getting or maintaining an erection, maybe I do find myself feeling tired sometimes but im thinking maybe my work life has taken a bit of a tol recently, before the blood test i was working 14 / 15 hour days on the mines in Australia, after reading all afternoon today about lifestyle effects on test i am hopeful that reducing stress, getting better sleep and taking vitamins / eating better will have a positive effect. Otherwise i will consider TRT, im definitely not a typical low T guy. I'll be honest the results have caught me off guard and im a bit gutted

>>514860458
if you use artificial test your hypothalamus decreases the production of LH and FSH those are the hormones that signal your balls to produce testosterone. you can correct this after the cycle by using HCG which emulates FSH and LH effect giving your body to recover to normal testosterone production and testicular volume by stimulating the Leydig cells.

>>514860660
time to recover*

181cm 63kg, my dick stands whenever i want but im skinny as fuck, idk what could be the issue but i want hop on test while not drying my balls, i heard 200mg test a week is safe with no side issues

>>514854574 (OP)

Trenbolone is a veterinary medicine. They used it on horses and cattle. Human consumption can lead to psychosis and major organ failure.

Any thoughts on reducing male pattern baldness?

>>514854574 (OP)
dont be a bitch put in the work

>>514859960
oh, for personal banking you use Itau bank and for health insurance use MP (Medicina Personalizada) or Blue Cross & Blue Shield.

>>514860767
200mg per week is very reasonable, you can go up to 350 even. just don't do it for more than 10 weeks and use some estrogen blocker like tamoxifen just in case. you don't want bitch tits.

>>514859990
don't use that for more than 8 weeks a year. also take clomifen or tamoxifen while on the cycle. after the cycle use HCG 3 shots of 1500 UI one every 3 days for a total of 9 days.

>>514861137
Tamoxifen is for your PCT, not while you're running a cycle. Stop giving bad advice.

>>514861756
I use clomid through the cycle and start with increasing dosage of tamoxifen 3 weeks before the cycle ends. but you do you by man.

>>514861928
of course I keep using tamoxifen for a few weeks after the cycle. for tren users I also recomend Cabergoline, which diminishes the overproduction of prolactin.

>>514855646
Schwarzenegger had his heart explode multiple times, but was rich enough to get surgeries

>>514861756
tamoxifen and clomifen are similar in their effect (reduction of estrogen, preventing aromatization) but they work a bit different. basically clomid prevents you from producing the estrogen while tamoxifen prevents it from binding to the receptors.

>>514854574 (OP)
Fry your brain dont they? Then you crack and beat a 135 lb woman to a pulp on camera

>>514860458
>>514860660
Interesting

>>514860572
don't forget that E is also essential for your libido, so it could be that you are basically making a lot of that

>>514860880
Microneedler, infrared light, minoxidil, RU5888

>>514863078
>RU58841
Have you tried it? It sounds good and not likely to mess up hormones like finasteride.