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Anonymous (ID: QcMyO4yW) Germany No.514928260 >>514928455 >>514930738 >>514931165 >>514931962 >>514932337 >>514932511 >>514933042 >>514933239 >>514933351 >>514933522 >>514933621 >>514934002 >>514934105 >>514934444 >>514935648 >>514935967 >>514937145 >>514937691 >>514937939 >>514938292 >>514938505 >>514940014 >>514940014
Why do people still believe Germany wanted to take over the world?
WW2 was literally Europe vs. Soviet Union

the only European country that stepped out of line was the UK and begging their golem friends from Oversee for help.

Otherwise it was literally Europe against Soviet Jewish Bolshevism. And there was a 90% win chance if Nigel and John just fucked off
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514928455 >>514931279 >>514934059 >>514935431
>>514928260 (OP)
Post a map comparing the British Empire, the French Empire, and then Germany in 1939 and tell me which country wanted to take over the world. For bonus points, highlight Danzig, which was a free city that voted democratically to join Germany, which was the source of the whole war. Germany even abandoned its overseas territorial claims lost in ww1 in an effort to appease the British, who annexed them all.
Anonymous (ID: PXxE+bis) United States No.514930738
>>514928260 (OP)
most those were trained on mass media prior to internet, when all anybody had was 3 tv channels for news (or printed journals). it's over for jews
Anonymous (ID: qpmgdPZW) Russian Federation No.514931165 >>514931676 >>514941846
>>514928260 (OP)
You've literally invaded and occupied 11 European countries, you shizo
Anonymous (ID: FU1jSl05) United States No.514931279
>>514928455
Pretty much this, was going to say look at who owned the world
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514931575 >>514931866 >>514931962
I imagine it came from Mein kampf where hitler describes the central goal of national socialism as large scale war and expansionism in Europe and killing lots of white people so Germany could become a super power.

people just extrapolated from that that Hitlers ambition would not end there since it rarely does "just end there" in these kinds of scenarios

theres also lots of room for misinterpretation where the idea of gemrany being the dominant power of a new world order and controlling the world is conflated with "taking over the world" which isn't thaaat much of a stretch, particularly given Nazi extreme militarism
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514931676 >>514932004 >>514932671
>>514931165
Which ones? Austria requested reunification. Sudetenland's Germans requested reunification. Czechoslovakia's Czech half and Slovak half both requested protectorate status after their government collapsed. Danzig requested reunification and was shut down by Poland, which started the war. After ww2, Germany occupied strategic targets but importantly never made territorial claims on regions which didn't have a German majority. He never demanded land from Norway, for example, and in countries like Denmark where the government didn't chicken out and flee, he even let their original government stay in power during the occupation, with minimal interference. If this still seems unreasonable then note that the British and Soviets did the same thing with Iceland and Iran, and also bombed and then invaded neutral (post-armistice) France. Britain even bombed neutral Switzerland.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514931866 >>514932264
>>514931575
When Mein Kampf came out, it was universally understood that Hitler was talking about intervention in Russia where there was widespread massacres, starvation, and human rights abuses going on. This was an idea pitched to Hitler by... Russians themselves. One of Hitler's earliest backers were white Russian emigrees who were trying to get Germany to intervene against the communists.

Hitler's goals, stated numerous places, was to establish German villages in Russia, not to genocide Russians. He stated that the Russians would be given self-rule, and taught German. If anything this is a colonial settler ambition, not genocide.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514931962 >>514932261
>>514928260 (OP)
>>514931575

>the only European country that stepped out of line was the UK and begging their golem friends from Oversee for help.
>Otherwise it was literally Europe against Soviet Jewish Bolshevism. And there was a 90% win chance if Nigel and John just fucked off

so why did hitler decide to completely destabilize europe and basically lay out a red carpet for the soviets to invade?

youre not to far from the truth, virtually everyone in europe was preparing for conflict with the soviet union, but that all went down the drain when Hitler decided to chimp out

if course we know why Hitler chimped out, he literally wrote about it. Hitler did not just want to fight bolshevism, he wanted a metric tonne of land. if hitler just played nice with the rest of europe and fought a pan-european effort to de-communize the soviet union, this probably would have resulted in the soviets being balkanized and new west-friendly governments being installed which would then be supported by other european nations, which would have limited germanies ability to expand, so instead he sold off half of eastern europe to the soviets then kicked off war so germany would have a chance to swallow up as much territory as they could for themselves
Anonymous (ID: qpmgdPZW) Russian Federation No.514932004 >>514932599 >>514932872 >>514939487 >>514940044
>>514931676
>invades Austria
>invades Sudetenland
>invades Czechia
>invades Poland
>invades Denmark
>invades Norway
>invades Netherlands
>invades Belgium
>invades Luxemburg
>invades France
>invades Britain
>invades Yugoslavia
>invades Greece
>invades USSR
>Invades US

Germany was just a hood nigger gutting Europe
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514932261 >>514932565
>>514931962
Hitler didn't destabilize Europe, the allies did after ww1 when they redrew the maps of Europe and left huge majorities of Germans and Hungarians outside of their homeland to reward their allies with land gains. The basis for this redistribution of land officially was "national self-determination". So, naturally these regions chose to exercise their own national self-determination and request reunification with their homeland, which Britain and France balked at, because this threatened their strategy of surrounding the defeated central powers with a ring of hostile anti-German satellites, and now these artificial states were becoming unstable and Germany's people weren't being good goy slaves and accepting their second class status in foreign countries.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514932264 >>514932871 >>514933375
>>514931866
except you are full of shit, Hitler did not write about "interventions" and "self rule", He literally stated outright that since Germany could not build a big overseas colonial empire to acquire land and resources, it needed to conquer and annex territory directly into the German heartland by attacking bordering nations, mainly, conquering the soviet union by first going through through Poland

the goal was conquering territories to take their resources,a nd the goal of "german settlements" was to germanize the territory so it could be annexed neatly and become explicitly german land.
Anonymous (ID: 6heT7y1m) United States No.514932337
>>514928260 (OP)
>b-but they were going to stop right after Poland!
The fuck they were
Anonymous (ID: dOf25Dil) United Kingdom No.514932511
>>514928260 (OP)
>And there was a 90% win chance if Nigel and John just fucked off
sorry about that
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514932565 >>514933681 >>514933814
>>514932261
>Hitler didn't destabilize Europe
fucking kek, pseud alert
>the allies did after ww1
not wrong but also not mutually exclusive to the point. Europe was virtually united in preparing for conflict with the soviet union, Hitler is the one who destroyed this by signing the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and dragging other euopean nations into war by attacking them,

also biggest issue with your shity argument is that you cact like hitler had no agency, like losing a bit of land in ww1 meant he had no choice but to start another war. Hitler had agency. hitler had a choice. he chose to attack other european nations while simultaneously selling them out to the soviets in the hopes that this would allow him to then move on the soviets and conquer as much territory as possible in one swoop from the soviet union. his idea was both profoundly stupid and immoral and the end result is that he dragged a bunch of european powers into war through his own aggressive actions and this allowed the soviet union to walk right in since germany had takes 100% of the aggro off of them
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514932599 >>514932770
>>514932004
>>invades Austria
They requested reunification and held a referendum to join Germany
>>invades Sudetenland
Requested reunification
>>invades Czechia
Nope. Never happened. They requested protectorate status after their government collapsed and Slovakia seceeded and Poland and Hungary invaded and USSR poised to invade.
>>invades Poland
This was over Danzig, which voted democratically for reunification
>>invades Denmark
A short term strategic maneuver. They made no claims on Denmark and they even kept their original government because they weren't chickens who ran away.
>>invades Norway
A short term strategic maneuver. They made no claims
>>invades Netherlands
A short term strategic maneuver. They made no claims
>>invades Belgium
A short term strategic maneuver. They made no claims
>>invades Luxemburg
This is a German-speaking microstate, not a real nation
>>invades France
France declared war on Germany. It was BRITAIN AND USA who invaded neutral France after the armistice
>>invades Britain
Britain declared war on Germany and refused all German efforts to negotiate a peace treaty
>>invades Yugoslavia
Yugoslavia's government joined the axis then their government collapsed. Germany liberated Croatia which remained a loyal ally.
>>invades Greece
This was Italy's doing, and it bears to mention that Greece feigned neutrality in ww1 then allowed British troops to land on its soil.
>>invades USSR
USSR was poised to invade Germany
>>Invades US
USA was engaged in an undeclared war with Germany and firing on German ships before Germany declared war on them
Anonymous (ID: VbsML2Sj) No.514932671 >>514936832
>>514931676
>Which ones?
Poland
France
Denmark
Norway
Yugoslavia
Greece
Belgium
Netherlands
Luxembourg
USSR
Basically Italy too, after 1943
>Britain even bombed neutral Switzerland.
And Germany bombed Dublin in neutral Ireland.
Anonymous (ID: vhYDTgH1) Germany No.514932769 >>514932841 >>514933307
British "people" hate whites. Look what they turned their nation into after "winning"
Disgusting subhumans.
Anonymous (ID: qpmgdPZW) Russian Federation No.514932770 >>514933069 >>514933662
>>514932599
>ayo, I be killin' those racist white crackers because they were getting ready to whoop my ass and sheit
>like that white cracker looked at me funny

Get DRESDENED, nigger
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514932841 >>514933178
>>514932769
meanwhile hitler literally wrote that the entire point of his ideology was to invade and kill white people so Germany could have access to their resources, and then actually enacted this plan which got tens of millions of whites killed
Anonymous (ID: OIMTIOvC) Canada No.514932871 >>514933200
>>514932264
And thank GOD none of that worked out, right?
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514932872 >>514933139 >>514933221 >>514933317
>>514932004
Let's see what USSR was up to since the 1920s:
>Invaded Ukraine (still doing that to this day lmao)
>Invaded Belarus
>Invaded Estonia
>Invaded Latvia
>Invaded Lithuania
>Invaded Finland
>Invaded Kuban republic
>Invaded Don Republic
>Invaded Georgia
>Invaded Armenia
>Invaded Azerbaijan

Etc. I am sure there are a few I missed. Then during or after ww2

>Invaded Romania
>Invaded Hungary
>Invaded Bulgaria
>Invaded Czechoslovakia
>Invaded Germany
>Invaded Poland

Not to mention all the shit they were doing with the third world.

Russia was way more rabid and invaded more countries than Germany. Many of these countries they permanently annexed or installed puppet governments.
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514933042
>>514928260 (OP)
Ww2 was Germans trying to rule over others, steal the land of other white people, and create an insurmountable lead of other nations using non German Eus as slave labour in this war machine. It was never about stopping communism, as Shitler own words show, it was purely a land grab by Germans, and nearly all of Europe had far higher volunteer numbers fighting against Shitler, including and especially the Germanic countries.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514933069 >>514933139
>>514932770
You're acting like the soviets didn't bloodily invade about a dozen or so independent declared states from 1920 to 1939 and then another dozen or so after. Not to mention genociding half of Ukraine.
Anonymous (ID: W1eyFF17) Hungary No.514933098
Germany did not want to take over the world, but rather Eastern Europe. They treated it the same way Anglos and the French treated their colonies a few decades earlier. The only problem with this was that this threatened to create an extremely powerful state, essentially a European Union with Germany at its head, this is what Anglos and Americans couldn't let happen. At the same time, they also did not want the Soviet Union taking over Europe for the same reason. So yes, the reductionist view of "Hitler wanted to take over the world" is of course incorrect. But he did want to take over Eastern Europe as a colony.
Anonymous (ID: qpmgdPZW) Russian Federation No.514933139
>>514932872
>>514933069
>but what about Ukraine????
Back to the trench, pigger
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514933178 >>514933363
>>514932841
>meanwhile hitler literally wrote that the entire point of his ideology was to invade and kill white people so Germany could have access to their resources, and then actually enacted this plan which got tens of millions of whites killed
Please provide a direct quote. Mein Kampf was released to the public and circulated in numerous languages and was not seen as genocidal or controversial in the years leading up to ww2.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514933200 >>514933274 >>514933358 >>514937600 >>514938180
>>514932871
> you dont understand this random webm of a petty crime in north carolina committed by a negro whos family had probably lived there for generations since they were brought there by force by whites, means it was ok for germany to start an all out war of;large scale conquest against Europeans which killed over a 100 million white people

im really in awe of the mental gymnastics. youre really banking on people having an emotional reaction to a random unrelated video and not thinking too hard about this, aren't you?
Anonymous (ID: iXqDFj3s) Australia No.514933221
>>514932872
Ussr isn't Russia faggot, nice cope
Anonymous (ID: Ytk5oC2W) Finland No.514933239
>>514928260 (OP)
Anglo propaganda. They are powerful
Anonymous (ID: OIMTIOvC) Canada No.514933274
>>514933200
Everything is connected
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514933307 >>514933510 >>514933593 >>514937539
>>514932769
British are the only Europeans that will fight wars to protect other European nations, even modern surveys now show this. We have a continent that hasn't changed much in a thousand years, yet you wanted to transform that into your land and dispossess others of nations and cultures older than your own, and you're naturally pissed that we stopped it. We are the most pro-white people in Western Europe.
Anonymous (ID: de+GYWND) No.514933317
>>514932872
It's worse. It also involved ethnic cleansing and replacing local population with hordes of russkies so that they could pretend that those lands are "ethnically russian". This is what's going on in the occupied territories of Ukraine.
The Baltic states were really, really close to being completely ethnically cleansed, especially Latvia. Glad the bros are actively getting rid of zigger AIDS.
Anonymous (ID: a8unDkpP) No.514933351
>>514928260 (OP)
>Why do people still believe
Because jewish news said so.

If people stop believe, lie would die. ... are you a murder?
Anonymous (ID: qpmgdPZW) Russian Federation No.514933358 >>514933652
>>514933200
Nazis are the Indians of the political spectrum
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514933363 >>514933432
>>514933178
sure, though all of the quotes will not fit in one post
>But we National Socialists must go further. The right to possess soil can become a duty if without extension of its soil a great nation seems doomed to destruction. And most especially when not some little nigger nation or other is involved, but the Germanic mother of life, which has given the present-day world its cultural picture. Germany will either be a world power or there will be no Germany. And for world power she needs that magnitude which will give her the position she needs in the present period, and life to her citizens.
>Germany today is no world power. Even if our momentary military impotence were overcome, we should no longer have any claim to this title. What can a formation, as miserable in its relation of population to area as the German Reich today, mean on this planet? In an era when the earth is gradually being divided up among states, some of which embrace almost entire continents we cannot speak of a world power in connection with a formation whose political mother country is limited to the absurd area of five hundred thousand square kilometers.
>The National Socialist movement must strive to eliminate the disproportion between our population and our area - viewing this latter as a source of food as well as a basis for power politics - between our historical past and the hopelessness of our present impotence. And in this it must remain aware that we, as guardians of the highest humanity on this earth, are bound by the highest obligation, and the more it strives to bring the German people to racial awareness so that, in addition to breeding dogs, horses, and cats, they will have mercy on their own blood, the more it will be able to meet this obligation.
1/?
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514933375 >>514933706
>>514932264
Nigger. Go read. Look up Hitler's connection to the White Russian Emigrees. They funded the early NSDAP. Did the Russians request for themselves to be genocided? Hundreds of thousands of Russians joined the Wehrmacht and even the SS. Did they genocide themselves? In Hitler's table talks, he even states he will not interfere with the Russians, just "set up a radio station for them to receive orders and schools for them to learn German in order to understand them". He saw the Russian people, after the Soviet collapse, as being a non-issue. He even set up the Lokot autonomy in the middle of ww2 (which had its own army and tanks and everything) as an experiment with Russian autonomy.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514933432 >>514934044
>>514933363
>Just as our ancestors did not receive the soil on which we live today as a gift from Heaven, but had to fight for it at the risk of their lives, in the future no folkish grace will win soil for us and hence life for our people, but only the might of a victorious sword.
>If the National Socialist movement really wants to be consecrated by history with a great mission for our nation, it must be permeated by knowledge and filled with pain at our true situation in this world; boldly and conscious of its goal, it must take up the struggle against the aimlessness and incompetence which have hitherto guided our German nation in the line of foreign affairs. Then, without consideration of 'traditions' and prejudices, it must find the courage to gather our people and their strength for an advance along the road that will lead this people from its present restricted living space to new land and soil, and hence also free it from the danger of vanishing from the earth or of serving others as a slave nation.
>>Much as all of us today recognize the necessity of a reckoning with France, it would remain ineffectual in the long run if it represented the whole of our aim in foreign policy. It can and will achieve meaning only if it offers the rear cover for an enlargement of our people's living space in Europe. For it is not in colonial acquisitions that we must see the solution of this problem, but exclusively in the acquisition of a territory for settlement, which will enhance the area of the mother country, and hence not only keep the new settlers in the most intimate community with the land of their origin, but secure for the total area those advantages which lie in its unified magnitude.
>At long last we break off the colonial and commercial policy of the prewar period and shift to the soil policy of the future.
Anonymous (ID: vhYDTgH1) Germany No.514933510 >>514933759 >>514934368
>>514933307
Such as when you helped turn Constantinople into Istanbul?
Anonymous (ID: mfBvgBxj) Netherlands No.514933522
>>514928260 (OP)
It was Hitler with an anti Slavic obsession while the rest of the imperial powers looked to curbstomp and castrate Germany forever. Weird obsession with ''lebensraum''. Especially since after the victory on France the Soviet Union was ready to negotiate and make major concessions to become a formal member of the axis. It had already dropped many bans on fascism the year prior.

> soviet jewish bolshevism
By the time Stalin came around most jews were alerady purged. UK and US were already the most jewish places on the planet and it was a joint effort to create and secure Israel for jews by these two countries.
Anonymous (ID: rSR0IQHL) Japan No.514933593 >>514933827
>>514933307
Is this post a joke? You can't be serious.
Anonymous (ID: 2QJBZCSG) United States No.514933621 >>514933772 >>514933980
>>514928260 (OP)
You're a retard. Fucked around, and found out.
Anonymous (ID: a8unDkpP) No.514933652
>>514933358
>Nazis are
National Socialist (jew label)

In reality every nation is made of families and friendship is social phenomena .
Swastika is a symbol of free energy, electricity and Natural Order of mother nature.

There is no such a thing as separated flowers, those are part of the Garden so as people are part of mother nature .

Free energy is what we use all over the world and "crude oil" as main source of energy is what you believe, because jew rats on the news said so.
Anonymous (ID: 61WN3OsR) No.514933662
>>514932770
funny how they pioneered mental gymnastics which modern day russia is using today kek
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514933681 >>514933977 >>514939918
>>514932565
Look, don't call me a pseud when you don't even understand the basic issues in central Europe of the time. Do you know what the Sudeten crisis is? How it started? Here is a hint, Hitler didn't start it. In Sudetenland (Czechoslovakia) there was a German majority which wanted to reunify with Germany. The Czech government banned them and opened fire on them when their supporters protested. Hitler had already declared himself as the protector of the German people at home and abroad. There were MANY Germans abroad, living in the same homes their ancestors did for hundreds of years, which were now outside of their homeland after ww1, in explicitly anti-German regimes. In Poland, German civilians were massacred by the Polish army. Hitler didn't create the chaos, he stood for German rights in a time period when German rights were stripped away, deliberately. It was an unstable situation created largely by France after ww1 in an attempt to dismantle Germany and it was inherently volatile.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514933706
>>514933375
ok and? white supremacists supported the Trump presidency only to have him go around making it illegal to criticize Israel and start importing h1b jeets and chinese students and quietly fast tracking visas for illegal mexicans to keep displacing white workers, all while simultaneously kicking white people off their healthcare and fucking them over in the workplace with deregulation

people support things that are contrary to their interests all the time, both knowingly, or in situations where they sincerely believe it wont blow up in their face even though it does
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514933759 >>514934359
>>514933510
Don't see your country on the list with Brits and Russians that helped Greece in its war of Independence...and also Germans are hated in Greece for you invading them in WW2.
Anonymous (ID: W1eyFF17) Hungary No.514933772
>>514933621
Ribbentrop was a special case of retard
Anonymous (ID: z1yGCIlm) Canada No.514933814 >>514933899 >>514934073 >>514934104
>>514932565
Why do people that argue that Nazis are bad and destroyed Europe instead of attempting to save it always end up breaking down into ad hominem attacks?
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514933827 >>514934008 >>514936893
>>514933593
Every war Britain has had in Europe was to preserve existing countries, including helping Germans remove Napoleon.
Anonymous (ID: mfBvgBxj) Netherlands No.514933899 >>514934352 >>514935137 >>514935350
>>514933814
What did they save by wanting to slaughter 90% of slavs and creating lebensraum for themselves? Hitler had the ones killed who preferred international cooperation with countries such as soviet union.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514933977 >>514935028 >>514935073
>>514933681
>this situation is inherently volotile
>so im going to sign a secret treaty to split europe with the soviets then invade my neighbours
>i dindufunnin
>we must save the the 6 million germans who are totally getting massacred even though there are no actually evidence to support anything but isolated cases of petty violence and nothing anywhere near the claims im making
>oops, people are fighting back after we invaded and now millions of Germans are ACTUALLY dying for real


the funny thing is, your argument essentially boils down to "hitler wasnt a bad guy he was just too stupid to navigate the situation he found himself in and made the worst choices imaginable "
Anonymous (ID: mfBvgBxj) Netherlands No.514933980 >>514935137
>>514933621
Too bad he went for the slavic purge instead of killing the noses, cotton pickers and rednecks.
Anonymous (ID: y5i47fOR) United States No.514934002
>>514928260 (OP)
>WW2 was literally Europe vs. Soviet Union
It was Europe vs the international jew. The same international jew controls the world today. Naturally their enemies will be dragged through the mud.
Anonymous (ID: rSR0IQHL) Japan No.514934008 >>514934264
>>514933827
Oh God lol. Napoleon and Hitler were the best things to happen to Europe in modern times and, of course, the anglo ruined it in favor of their jewish masters.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514934044 >>514934286 >>514935333 >>514935376
>>514933432
So where does he say he wants to genocide or displace Russians? Most of Russia is wilderness. Gaining a chunk of Russia in exchange for saving it from communism seems like a fair deal.
Anonymous (ID: dV4hFhRn) United States No.514934059 >>514934129
>>514928455
Germany asked for peace with the UK many times. Even Hitler didn't know how kiked they were.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514934073 >>514934113 >>514934352
>>514933814
well I couldn t tell you, ive backed up my entire argument in this thread never made any ad hominem attacks, jsut a few jabs along side my substantiations, which is not what ad hominem means
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514934104 >>514934198 >>514934352 >>514935340 >>514937218 >>514937296
>>514933814
Germans were not saving Europe from anything. Their own communist issue was a minor problem that only got bigger, yet still easy to control, because the industrial regions of Germany had peasant revolts against militarism knowing they would get conscripted as cannon fodder, as these were put down as communist rebellions. Shitlers entire economic model necessitated war to cover up their financial problems. If Shitler never organised around war and imperialism his literally wouldn't even be in the job as that is all he was assigned to do by his backers, most of which were industrialists tied to the weapons industry.
You think WW2 is up for debate because morons like zoomer 'historian" make vs revisionism that goes against all primary sources.
Lemonmoder (ID: nH5ogdt/) United States No.514934105 >>514934378
>>514928260 (OP)
That’s why there’s so much propaganda like wolfenstein or “man in high castle” where despite nothing ever indicating this was even the case, Germany invaded and completely took over the United States

They realized if they just said Germany wanted to grow their empire in Europe nobody here would care. They needed the mythical threat of america being conquered to get Americans to care. And it worked because now basically everyone is convinced that that was going to be the case even though Hitler multiple times said he wanted to “leave America to the Americans”. It’s all propaganda
Anonymous (ID: dV4hFhRn) United States No.514934113 >>514934210
>>514934073
you sound like a faggy nerd
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514934129 >>514934277
>>514934059
It is actually a matter of public record now that Churchill had massive debts which jewish backers paid off. He is the one that blocked all the negotiation requests from Germany and hid it from ever being known by the public.
Anonymous (ID: dV4hFhRn) United States No.514934198 >>514934343
>>514934104
>entire economic model necessitated war to cover up their financial problems
this is the stupidest redditism that usually gets repeated by the kind of people who call Marx an economist
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514934210 >>514934349
>>514934113
ok. i see youre practising the nazi strategy of accusing others of what you indend to do. "accuse me of ad homenem attacks despite the fact that ive backed up everything ive said with on-topic argumentation and quotes, then start hitting me with actual ad himinem attacks
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514934264 >>514934439
>>514934008
Is that why post war Europe until the Breton Woods system got dismantled was the wealthiest time in human history with the highest living standards and rapidly growing life expectancy. Every metric of life for young boomers showed it was the best time in human history to be alive.
Anonymous (ID: dV4hFhRn) United States No.514934277 >>514934569 >>514934915
>>514934129
How the UK handled Hess was barbaric. They were bloodthirsty.
Anonymous (ID: YL0naZOL) United States No.514934286
>>514934044
Not to mention that the Soviets were still Nazis before the war (just not as aggressive and expansionistic Nazis)
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514934343 >>514934450
>>514934198
Every video on YouTube and every book written on Nazi finances shows this fact, but carry on pretending everyone is wrong.
Anonymous (ID: dV4hFhRn) United States No.514934349
>>514934210
>nazi strategy of accusing others of what you indend to do
when did they do that?

The only place I've seen that is in Rules for Radicals - the manual for jewish subversion
Anonymous (ID: z1yGCIlm) Canada No.514934352
>>514934104
>>514934073
>>514933899
Yeah guys, get pushy with it. Very persuasive...
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514934359 >>514935024
>>514933759
The Holy Roman Empire and Austria (both were German) were basically THE biggest counter to Ottoman power for hundreds of years.
Anonymous (ID: AmYHxM9C) No.514934368
>>514933510
Once you understand that the *nglokike sees the rest of us as their "subservants golems" and expects us to do the fighting and heavy lifting for them, just like pissrael. You will understand their motives and their behavior.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WsEz1OAUBBM&pp
Anonymous (ID: rSR0IQHL) Japan No.514934378 >>514934570
>>514934105
Because no one actually thinks how stupid the proposals they are fed actually are.
Japan for instance: why would anyone ever need to invade an island country with no resources, a completely decimated navy, and obviously no way to defend against air raids? There is no logic behind it other than to justify using 2 atomic bombs on civilian cities.
Anonymous (ID: rSR0IQHL) Japan No.514934439 >>514935108
>>514934264
Everything you just said has absolutely nothing to do with Napoleon, Hitler, or the UK "saving" Europe. How retarded are you?
Anonymous (ID: CAWrTAxh) Russian Federation No.514934444 >>514934882
>>514928260 (OP)
so you are saying that a couple of trucks and a few gibs defeated your "90% win chance".

do you see now how stupid your cope is?
Anonymous (ID: dV4hFhRn) United States No.514934450 >>514935189
>>514934343
>shows this fact,
Uh huh. You can't explain how, but it was mentioned in some kike videos and repeated by midwits on rebbit, so it must be true.
Those financial problems were being hidden right next to the jewskin lampshades
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514934569 >>514934951 >>514935005 >>514935134 >>514935190 >>514935211
>>514934277
Hess truly was a tragedy. By all accounts he was a good and self-sacrificing man who regularly put himself under the barrel of a gun for what was right.

He had no ministry, he was basically a minister without portfolio, so there was no legitimate reason to claim he was responsible for any crimes, when he had no authority to even commit any. He was the most vocally anti-war of all the NSDAP. He was vocally against persecution of jews, and was not even inside Germany when the alleged holocaust began. He was vocally against corruption in government. He was investigated by the British hoping to find something to pin on him and they found nothing. He flew a plane directly into Britain because he had been deceived by British intelligence into thinking they would negotiate peace. He flew right into the lion's maw to bring peace... and they kidnapped him, tortured him, imprisoned him for life on the charges of... get this... CRIMES AGAINST PEACE. For trying to negotiate a peace treaty!

He was truly treated injustly and for literally no reason other than having been Hitler's oldest friend.
Anonymous (ID: RbXMOaVV) Canada No.514934570
>>514934378
No Fallout or Radiation there nip anon
Anonymous (ID: dV4hFhRn) United States No.514934882 >>514935022
>>514934444
The German line would have held without those 500k trucks. It was a game changer for moving and supplying troops quickly enough to exploit holes in the German defenses.
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514934915 >>514935177
>>514934277
Lol, what is barbaric about imprisoning an enemy then putting him on trial?
Anonymous (ID: RbXMOaVV) Canada No.514934951
>>514934569
Dude Hess was a legend.
Anonymous (ID: dV4hFhRn) United States No.514935005
>>514934569
They did it to kill any chance of peace talks. The UK needed to deliver the blood of tens of millions to their kike overlords.
Anonymous (ID: CAWrTAxh) Russian Federation No.514935022 >>514935239
>>514934882
kek. lmao even.
have you seen our terrain?

those trucks are useless there.
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514935024
>>514934359
No they weren't. They were entirely defensive. When it comes down to it, Russia, France, Greece and Britain have our names in the history books for ending the Ottoman Empire.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514935028 >>514935802
>>514933977
>>so im going to sign a secret treaty to split europe with the soviets
Stopped reading here. The British did the exact same thing when they guaranteed Poland. They included a secret clause that it would only apply to Germany and not the USSR. Then when the USSR invaded Poland, Britain did nothing. Later Britain would shaft the Polish government in exile and let Poland be turned into a soviet puppet and even helped the soviets cover up Katyn massacre by blaming it on the Germans at Nuremberg.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514935073
>>514933977
>there are no actually evidence
There are literally 300 pages of signed eyewitness testimonies in a report Germany released worldwide during ww2 on Polish atrocities against German civilians.
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514935108 >>514935235
>>514934439
It has everything to do with it as you don't have an alternative eorld where your ideas created the best living standards in human history, while the allies have that.
Anonymous (ID: cDAvdeeO) Canada No.514935134 >>514935863
>>514934569
people often point out that hess 'betrayed' hitler and that hitler scorned him and said he was a traitor
i'm 90% sure that was agreed upon by the two of them if hess was unable to convince the british to keep stability in germany, iirc another party member said that he and hitler agreed that hitler would deny all involvement if the negotiations failed as to not disrupt things any more than they already were
i think goering had that also happen to him right before then end but i might be mistaken
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514935137
>>514933899
>>514933980
He didn't. Hitler had numerous Slavic allies and volunteers and even set up an autonomous Russian state which had its own military.
Anonymous (ID: dV4hFhRn) United States No.514935177 >>514935259
>>514934915
Standard diplomacy for heads of state, even when countries are at war. A lot of people were shitting all over the US for stealing the head of Venezuelas jet when he was at a summit - and rightfully so. It's a shitbag move.

Extra shitty for the UK because they did it so that tens of millions of Europeans could die for central banking
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514935189
>>514934450
Anyone in this thread can find these videos in 2 seconds of searching, so you can pretend tge information doesn't exist but anyone else can find it if they're interested in nazi finances.
Anonymous (ID: IgoyBL2i) Netherlands No.514935190
>>514934569
He wasn't punished for any crimes. He just knew too much, the only historical figure who actively hinted at the truth about WW2
Anonymous (ID: qpmgdPZW) Russian Federation No.514935211 >>514935289 >>514936010 >>514937096
>>514934569
Hess practically planned and supported a war against Poland. He was guilty as fuck. But he was not guilty of war crimes, which is why he was not hanged and given a life sentence instead.
Anonymous (ID: rSR0IQHL) Japan No.514935235 >>514935315 >>514935375
>>514935108
I knew I was arguing with an idiot but reading through your replies to other posts really makes me question just how stupid and unaware of the world you really are. You are either incredibly low IQ or a boomer (same thing). Your entire world is crumbling around you and you are unable to piece together what lead up to it.
Anonymous (ID: dV4hFhRn) United States No.514935239 >>514935416
>>514935022
Bullshit. What's the point of lying about this? Even you niggers had roads back then - not that the trucks needed it
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514935259 >>514936239 >>514936428
>>514935177
It wasn't a diplomatic meeting you retard. It was a secret operatthat went wrong for him.
Anonymous (ID: IgoyBL2i) Netherlands No.514935289
>>514935211
Do you know anyone else who ever got a life sentence for 'planning and supporting' campaign?
Anonymous (ID: RbXMOaVV) Canada No.514935315
>>514935235
Dude, nukes aren't real, chill out
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514935333 >>514935376 >>514935568 >>514936990
>>514934044
all right let me walk you through it

>At long last we break off the colonial and commercial policy of the prewar period and shift to the soil policy of the future.
this means that the German economic destiny under national socialism lies in aggressive territorial expansionism

>>Just as our ancestors did not receive the soil on which we live today as a gift from Heaven, but had to fight for it at the risk of their lives, in the future no folkish grace will win soil for us and hence life for our people, but only the might of a victorious sword.
this means the new territory wont be just given to germany, they will have to kill people and take it by force.

>For it is not in colonial acquisitions that we must see the solution of this problem, but exclusively in the acquisition of a territory for settlement, which will enhance the area of the mother country, and hence not only keep the new settlers in the most intimate community with the land of their origin, but secure for the total area those advantages which lie in its unified magnitude.
this means Germanies new land is going to come explicitly from white people in Europe since the new territories,a nd is explicitely going to be integrated directly into the German nation

all this tells us this: Hitlers explicit goal is violent conquest of europeans. Killing white people. not only that but he ways this is THE EXPLICIT GOAL OF NATIONAL SOCIALISM as an ideology. national socialism is literally just killing white people to take their land.

hotler of course implimented this plan just as he wrote it, even went through poland first like he said he would, and obviously people fought back, and his genius idea killed over a hundred million white people
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514935340 >>514935676
>>514934104
>Shitlers entire economic model necessitated war to cover up their financial problems
Moronic take. Let me guess "Hitler needed to loot the treasuries of other countries to cover his debts"? I heard this bullshit before, it is pure propaganda. The total treasuries of annexed and occupied countries taken by Germany before and during ww2 totals 12 billion dollars (adjusted to current day for inflation). This is a drop in the bucket. Basically nothing because no country had huge stacks of gold in the trillions just lying around. However, during ww2 Germany spent 3 trillion dollars (adjusted for inflation) and never collapsed. This was while having its workforce conscripted, its roads and factories bombed, its ports blockaded. None of this collapsed the German economy, and furthermore, German wages continued to rise up until 1945. Their economy was robust.

Unless you can explain why Germany somehow needed to gain $12 billion at the expense of $3 trillion.
Anonymous (ID: dV4hFhRn) United States No.514935350
>>514933899
Wild that he got Hungarians, Bulgarians, and Romanians on board for the war
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514935375 >>514935527
>>514935235
Ah our worldview, that of primary source evidence, is crumbling around us because Zoomers, the dumbest generation in history, are using memes of fake quotes on WW2 to create a revisionist movement lol.
Let's see how this turns out.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514935376 >>514935435 >>514935568
>>514935333
>>514934044

of course that still leaves the question of what happens to those who survive the way. well hiteler says german blood needs to be kept pure through these conquests "like you would breed a dog or a horse" so obviously the natives are not going to be given equal rights and integrated into the new germany, but will instead be second class citizens in their own homes. not only that but heir nations will then be flooded with german settlers

so my questions for you are A) how does this end with anything but the displacement of russians? and B) do you actually believe hitler wanted to integrate hundreds of millions of slavs/? remember these arent just "colonies", these new territories are meant to "enhance the area of the mother country" its self,
Anonymous (ID: CAWrTAxh) Russian Federation No.514935416 >>514935536 >>514935604
>>514935239
we also had our own trucks among other things.
the best weapons of ww2 are soviet.
Anonymous (ID: lcbnKRdr) Hungary No.514935431
>>514928455
Anonymous (ID: dV4hFhRn) United States No.514935435
>>514935376
>instead be second class citizens in their own homes.
They were already second-class citizens in their homes
Anonymous (ID: rSR0IQHL) Japan No.514935527 >>514935769
>>514935375
>Let's see how this turns out.
Hopefully with you raped to death by a pack of Arab niggers of which you have only yourself to blame (but you saved Europe, right?)
Anonymous (ID: dV4hFhRn) United States No.514935536 >>514935727
>>514935416
>we also had our own trucks among other things
not nearly enough
>the best weapons of ww2 are soviet.
oh, you're trolling
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514935568 >>514936621
>>514935333
The goal isn't killing people, the goal is to obtain land. The Soviets were also killing white people by the millions in Ukraine when Mein Kampf was written. If Hitler had obtained power in the 1920s they could have intervened and saved millions of Ukrainians. USSR was a flaming dumpster fire embroiled in a desperate civil war and ethnic cleansing of dissident populations in the 1920s and would have collapsed with minimal pressure.

>>514935376
Look up how colonial settler societies work. Basically, you would have autonomous Russian zones and zones of German settlement.
Anonymous (ID: WhTfw3xZ) Netherlands No.514935604
>>514935416
Too proud, you a fed?
Anonymous (ID: WhTfw3xZ) Netherlands No.514935648
>>514928260 (OP)
Why didnt he invade switserland
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514935676 >>514936191 >>514937218 >>514937377
>>514935340
Great stuff, why don't you write a book to counter the others showing different stats? All those nazi finance videos with economic historians, debunked by your post. Well done. Definitely make a video at least
Anonymous (ID: CAWrTAxh) Russian Federation No.514935727 >>514936647 >>514937335
>>514935536
ppsh t34 katyusha
among many other things.

you people saying that your "help" did anything are sounding like an amazon guy who delivered some fastfood to a stadium and now claims that his buritos won the game.
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514935769 >>514937950
>>514935527
Anddd like clockwork the nazi wants whites to be raped and murdered. If Germans don't get to rule Europe it has to be destroyed.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514935802 >>514936339 >>514937404
>>514935028
big oof, this is why i called you a pseud

for starters the british did not do "the exact same thing", telling Poland you will defend them if they are attacked is not the equivalent of making a treaty that literally splits Europe with the soviet union. this is the most textbook false equivalency imaginable

the only reason you could argue this sequence of events might have led to soviet invasions is if you once again remove hitlers agency with poland, and ignore the fact that hitlers secret dealings with the soviet union is the actual event that allowed the soviets to move on europe

secondly, you conveniently left out the fact that HITLER HAD ALREADY SIGNED A SECRET AGREEMENT TO SPLIT EASTERN EUROPE WITH THE SOVIETS BEFORE the Anglo-Polish alliance.

by the time the UK made the agreement with Poland from Germany, Germany had ALREADY decided to invade them. Germany stopped good faith negotiations long before the UK stepped in.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514935863 >>514936239
>>514935134
This is true. In a nutshell, Hitler kept his intentions to negotiate peace with Britain a secret because he feared Italy would leave the war if they thought Hitler was trying to negotiate a separate peace deal (and leave Italy to fight Britain alone). Churchill kept this a secret because they wanted to propagandize Hitler as a warmonger and didn't want the public to think peace was an option.
Anonymous (ID: RbXMOaVV) Canada No.514935941 >>514936119
Pretty sure this all comes down to the that Germany was getting ahead in the Eugenics race and every other nation was pissed off.
Anonymous (ID: kD1JVjHh) United States No.514935967
>>514928260 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514936010 >>514936389
>>514935211
"Crimes against peace" was not even a term until 1946, it was invented after ww2 in order to execute Germany's ruling class and replace them with loyal puppets. If planning a war is a crime then when will the Russians hand over Putin and their beloved oligarchs for execution?
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514936119 >>514937462
>>514935941
America had actual eugenics, and created it. Germans had Begger Thy Neighbour economics, where as long as they fucked things up for those non-Germans they thought they were top of the pack. Everyone they fought they thought would be an easy win yet quickly realised that other whites were their equal at war.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514936191 >>514936627
>>514935676
>hurr durr you need to spend trillions to make billions!
Economists aren't immune to being morons who just regurgitate the propaganda they were taught in schools. Instead of making a vague appeal to authority, try using your brain and tell me how that makes financial sense to you?
Anonymous (ID: IgoyBL2i) Netherlands No.514936239
>>514935259
>>514935863
The odd thing about the Hess mission is that it was both a trap and a diplomatic meeting at the same time. Not only did Hess think it was a legitimate negotiation, but the effect of his mission was an actual and immediate end to the Blitz, and a de facto armistice in the West (so the Hitler would attack in the East as planned by the puppet masters)
This is why neither the british nor the soviets, for their own reasons, could ever contemplate setting him free
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514936339 >>514936780
>>514935802
Germany knew that Britain was targetting them. This wasn't a secret. Taking precautions to not end up in a 2 front war is common sense. You are a moron if you don't understand this.
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514936389 >>514936447
>>514936010
Ukraine is hardly the same issue given their pro Russian leader was ousted in a coup in 2014, then 9 years of low level warfare against ethnic Russians in Ukraine.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514936428 >>514936572
>>514935259
British intelligence targetted Hess, telling him that the British government would negotiate peace. They betrayed him.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514936447 >>514936846
>>514936389
Poland was engaging in border raids against Germany leading up to ww2.
Anonymous (ID: IgoyBL2i) Netherlands No.514936572 >>514936743
>>514936428
British intelligence had so many assets inside Nazi Germany, it can legitimately be called a puppet regime. In this case, it was the Haushofers who set Hess up
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514936621 >>514936933 >>514937497 >>514945051
>>514935568
>The goal isn't killing people, the goal is to obtain land.

obtain land "by the sword"

in what fucking world do you think you can conquer half of wurope and achieve anything but mass death on an unimaginable scale

once again this is starting to sound like the "Hitler isn't evil, hes just the most catastrophically incompetent leader in human history" argument

>If Hitler had obtained power in the 1920s they could have intervened and saved millions of Ukrainians
HAHAHAHAH jesus christ this is fucking insane, you CANT be serious?


first off, just to get this out of the way, hitler didnt want to "intervene", Hitler wanted to annex the entire region as a direct extension of the "german motherland", which he would nt be able to aacokplish through a simple intervention, As he himself points out, this would of course first involve attacking other eastern european nations first, then of course, he would aslo have to subjugate the whites as well

now most importantly, Germany was literally ALREADY in a state of war with the bolsheviks after the revolution without Hitler, and already supported the white army. Germany already intervened as much as they possible could have. and only stopped when they virtually had no choice left, and this would have been the case with our without hitler.

Im genuinely baffled how exactly you think this would have worked out kek
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514936627 >>514936705
>>514936191
Making up your own version of reality that runs counter to the evidence doesn't make mean I am appealing to authority, it means you're making shit up, which is why books and videos exist with 1 angle, i.e the truth, not the revisionism as it would be debunked. BTW another thing people on here never mention is how many videos exist debunking the revisionists. Zoomer Historian for example has been destroyed in many YT videos, yet simply doesn't debate or ever try to counter the people that have ruined his revisionist attempts.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514936647 >>514936730 >>514936923 >>514936942
>>514935727
>ppsh
MP44 was better
>t34
Panther panzer was better
>katyusha
V2 rockets were far more advanced than chinese rockets strapped to a truck, and Von Braun (SS head of rocketry) landed Man on the moon
Anonymous (ID: IgoyBL2i) Netherlands No.514936705
>>514936627
>books and videos exist with 1 angle, i.e the truth,
Lmao
Anonymous (ID: WhTfw3xZ) Netherlands No.514936730
>>514936647
Moon missions where faked, space is fake. Freemasons worship satan
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514936743 >>514937135
>>514936572
Yes, Germany's government and military were honeycombed with conservacucks who rushed to the British to betray their homeland. It is truly appalling just how bad the problem was. Germany's head of military intelligence was in British pockets. Same with their ambassador to Turkey.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514936780 >>514937166
>>514936339
>Taking precautions to not end up in a 2 front war is common sense

except Hitlers retarded plan had literally the exact opposite effect. also how the fuck do you even rationalize this idea that he was "Taking precautions to not end up in a 2 front war is common sense" at all by provoking the UK and france while also giving the soviets the green light to invade Europe?
Anonymous (ID: b5ieZpq8) United States No.514936832
>>514932671
Hitler paid reparations to Ireland.
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514936846
>>514936447
Lies. Watch Martinez videos on this on Rumble. It never happened. Also the Telegram channel Hitler Was A Zionust debunks it.
FFS do you cunts have any info not swallowed uncritically by Denis Wise videos?
Anonymous (ID: b5ieZpq8) United States No.514936893
>>514933827
What existing country was British preserving in the Crimean war? A war fought against Whites on behalf of non-White non-Europeans.
Anonymous (ID: cDAvdeeO) Canada No.514936923
>>514936647
weren't ppsh's just bootleg kp/ -31's?
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514936933
>>514936621
USSR was very unstable in the 1920s. It would be very different from a war in the 1940s and could have been won with relatively minimal casualties due to internal instability and war weariness. Invade and strike up a quick treaty after an early victory. Hitler never claimed ALL of Russia, he just wanted room for expansion. Even in ww2, Hitler never wanted to occupy all of Russia, but merely occupy the Ak-Ak line and then wait for USSR to surrender. In a non-total war scenario, goals would have been limited by practical considerations of international diplomacy and administrative costs of overseeing the new territory.
Anonymous (ID: CAWrTAxh) Russian Federation No.514936942 >>514937046
>>514936647
nope it was not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwMJSbwCLeg

no it was not because t34 was cheaper with better armor and easilly servicable. Any soldier could fix it in a field.

katyusha was a gamechanger you stupid nigger.
v2 was a weird poorly working experiment.
Upgraded versions of it are used to this very day like grad, uragan etc.
it erases miles in one charge.
Anonymous (ID: b5ieZpq8) United States No.514936990 >>514937465
>>514935333
>this means expansion
It doesn’t.
>they will have to kill everyone
That’s not what it means.
You might have a case of Germany didnt already rule swathes of Eastern Europe. But there were no genocides or mass killing under Prussian rule.
>violence and conquest
Where are those words used?
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514937046 >>514937103
>>514936942
Germans captured Katyushas and could have easily produced them if they wanted but their analysis showed that the Nebelwerfers the Germans used were superior
Anonymous (ID: b5ieZpq8) United States No.514937096
>>514935211
Poland was planning a war against Germany so was France, so was Britain, the Cordone Sanitare wanted a triple alliance with the USSR to invade Germany in 1936 but the Soviets nixed it because they didn’t want France on their border. (France had more tanks than the USSR and Germany combined in the mid 30s)
Poland wasn’t even a real country. It was a fake state propped up by foreign powers ruling over ethnic non-Poles in over a third of its land.
Anonymous (ID: CAWrTAxh) Russian Federation No.514937103 >>514937414
>>514937046
lmao
you have no idea what you are talking about
here how it looks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBtIbylToFE
Anonymous (ID: IgoyBL2i) Netherlands No.514937135 >>514937422 >>514937584
>>514936743
Exactly. And when the British got Hess out of the way, the Soviets shuffled Bormann in, so with Dr Morell they had the two most important figures in Hitler's inner circle
Now it's easy to see why Hitler would intervene time and again to bungle Barbarossa
Anonymous (ID: 4rlUJN9s) Austria No.514937145
>>514928260 (OP)
because (((hollywood))) told them so
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514937166 >>514937422 >>514937573
>>514936780
>by provoking the UK and france while also giving the soviets the green light to invade Europe?
Hitler knew that UK and France were agitating against Germany so took precautions for USSR not to dogpile in. It is blisteringly simple and I am amazed that this boggles your mind so much.

Britain literally did partition Europe with USSR after ww2, btw.
Anonymous (ID: b5ieZpq8) United States No.514937218
>>514934104
>>514935676
Look at the actual economic policy of Germany at the time. By 1937 they were the third largest economy in the world. Before nationalizing Skoda and the Czech gold (the Czechs did this to Skoda when it was based out of Vienna and took the Austrian gold btw) in 1938 Germany had surpassed the USSR economically and was second to the United States in productive output.
You can find it easily. Germany was out producing the rest of democratic Europe combined and the USSR and on track to eventually surpass the United States by the mid 40s.
Anonymous (ID: f1I8C3JM) United States No.514937296 >>514937530
>>514934104
If hitler was having financial problems he certainly proved you can be broke poor and still blitzkrieg an entire continent
Anonymous (ID: b5ieZpq8) United States No.514937335 >>514937561
>>514935727
90% of your ammunition came from the US.
If you had to actually fight the Germans man on man you’d have lost and lost hard. You only survived because you could sling shells at the Germans and not worry about ammunition running dry.
Stalin himself said privately the US is the sole reason the Soviet Union survived. Even then your retarded superstate collapsed because Hitler hit you so hard you became dependent on the US.

At no point in Soviet history were you food Independent.
Think about for a long time.
At no point could the Soviet Union survive an economic break with the United States.
For 80 years we sent you grain every year. For eighty fucking years you ate from our hand like a dog.
You don’t even know your own history.
I don’t dislike Russians or Russia but don’t be retarded. It was obviously a mistake to fight against Hitler and it’s a mistake to fight against his memory.
Anonymous (ID: f1I8C3JM) United States No.514937377
>>514935676
Money isn’t real anyways it’s just something Backed by violence to issue the cattle to make them work
Anonymous (ID: b5ieZpq8) United States No.514937404
>>514935802
Britain’s ambassador to Poland told them “do not resist the Red Army if possible”
Poland was a fall guy.
Molotov Ribbentrop was dividing spheres of influence.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514937414
>>514937103
>8 cm Raketen-Vielfachwerfer
>The 8 cm Raketen-Vielfachwerfer was a German rocket launcher of the Second World War. The launcher was a near-copy of the Soviet BM-8 Katyusha rocket launcher produced under the influence of the Waffen SS.
>The Soviet BM-8 Katyusha rocket launchers first encountered during Operation Barbarossa left a big impression on the invading Germans. Proposals to copy the Katyusha for German use were soon made but there wasn't much spare industrial capacity available for new projects. There also wasn't a great deal of enthusiasm for the project because the German Army had already committed to the production of spin-stabilized rocket systems such as the 15 cm Nebelwerfer 41.
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514937422 >>514937588
>>514937135
The intel game is part of war. If Shitler couldn't even control his inner circle then he deserves the L.
>>514937166
Churchill wanted to remove the Soviets from Eastern Europe right after the war, and Americans prevented it.
Anonymous (ID: b5ieZpq8) United States No.514937462
>>514936119
Not even true. The German economy at the time was run by an acolyte of the Pennsylvania school of economics.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514937465 >>514937652
>>514936990
lol jesus why are neo nazis like this? i literally can not imagine acting THIS slimy and dishonest

like are you literally just banking on me getting exhausted by your wilful ignorance and not responding?

here we go i guess

>It doesn’t.
ok then, tell me what "expanding the territory of the mother land" and "acquiring new soil involved? what did Hitler mean when he said he wanted "adequately large space on this earth" for Germany and that "The National Socialist movement must strive to eliminate the disproportion between our population and our area"?

>That’s not what it means.
well of course its not, you intentionally changed my statement to change the meaning and thus attempted to undermine my argument without actually addressing it

>Where are those words used?
what do you think taking new land "by the sword" because " no folkish grace will win soil for us" onvolved? what did hitler mean when he said they would have to "fight for it at the risk of their lives"?
Anonymous (ID: b5ieZpq8) United States No.514937497 >>514938116
>>514936621
Was there mass death when Germany conquered Poland the first time? Was there mass death when Austria went east the first time?
No. Shut up.
Taking land doesn’t necessitate mass death.
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514937530
>>514937296
Slave labour and capturing other nations resources would do that. There entire economy was being switched over from domestic consumption to war industries, i.e to steal and plunder other nations. It couldn't survive without this hence Shitler was not hidden about the necessity for war/conquest.
Anonymous (ID: yACn44jf) Finland No.514937539 >>514937694
>>514933307
I think the last couple of decades have shown you aren't pro-white, you're pro-outgroup.
Anonymous (ID: CAWrTAxh) Russian Federation No.514937561 >>514937671
>>514937335
>90% of your ammunition came from the US.
this is probably the dumbest thing I have read here today.

I did not read any further.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514937573 >>514937665
>>514937166
>Hitler knew that UK and France were agitating against Germany so took precautions for USSR not to dogpile in

except according to neo nazis the soviet union was already going to invade anyway, and not only that, but Hitler then started the two front war himself by going back on the deal and attacking the soviet union

not only tht but the pact with the soviet union INCREASED THE LIKELYHOOD of contact between the soviets and germany since it broguht both soviet and german forced together at a new established shared border in poland, whereas before germany had a buffer between them and the soviet union
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514937584 >>514937765
>>514937135
>Now it's easy to see why Hitler would intervene time and again to bungle Barbarossa
It was actually completely justified. Halder was altering Hitler's orders behind his back. Most modern military analysts agree (in defiance of blame-shifting by German generals after ww2 in their memoirs) that Hitler's strategies were the best in almost every case (but the situation was unwinnable regardless).
Anonymous (ID: IgoyBL2i) Netherlands No.514937588 >>514937890 >>514937897
>>514937422
>The intel game is part of war
Of course, but in no previous war did it play as dominant a role as in WW2, which is why most everything you think you know about it is false, or half-true at best
>If Shitler couldn't even control his inner circle then he deserves the L.
You actually have that backwards. Hitler was propped up by the British, Americans and Soviets for this very reason - his party and inner circle being compromised from the start
Anonymous (ID: Q5efDMpr) Canada No.514937600 >>514938180 >>514938266
>>514933200
>random murder
>petty crime
how brown are you exactly?
Anonymous (ID: b5ieZpq8) United States No.514937652 >>514938093
>>514937465
You are arguing territorial expansion necessitates death. Well where was the mass death? There wasn’t any. The death we see is what we’d expect from collateral damage from the largest war in history being fought out in Eastern Europe.
Furthermore where was the mass death in Prussia and Austria-Hungary when they went west from 1600-1900?
The people the Germans encountered in the east hailed them as liberators from the Bolsheviks.
If Britain had accepted Hitler’s peace offer September 2nd then there wouldn’t even be a war in the east.
Nowhere in Mein Kampf (written 20 years before Hitler was even elected btw) does Hitler say “we must invade now” Mein Kampf is his personal thoughts about 200 years into the future of Europe vs Asia. Nothing in there is a master plan nor does it reveal any official policy or doctrine.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514937665 >>514938214
>>514937573
Do you understand the concept of time? That the situation can change over time? At first Germany wanted peace with USSR. They even offered for them to join the Axis. It was only after the battle for Britain failed that intelligence reports came in (German intelligence was working for the British) that the Soviets were planning to join Britain, and Germany launched a pre-emptive strike. (It is debateable whether or not the Soviets were planning to invade, but the German generals believed it).
Anonymous (ID: b5ieZpq8) United States No.514937671 >>514937811 >>514937838
>>514937561
Read your own sources. That number comes from the Russian academy of sciences.
Anonymous (ID: B1ppwJan) Japan No.514937691 >>514939566
>>514928260 (OP)
choose your villain
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514937694 >>514937796
>>514937539
> I think
> Posts ridiculous comment with no basis in reality
Remind is what Brits have done in the last "few decades" that is against whites, as all I see is Brits being the leading population in Western Europe fighting against glolbalhomo.
Anonymous (ID: b5ieZpq8) United States No.514937751
On September second when the illegal polish invasion of the free city of Danzig had been thrown back and the Germans had not taken a single polish city, Hitler and Mussolini made an overture for peace with Britain, Britain who had not yet entered the war declined this peace offer on Poland’s behalf and declared war on Germany six hours later.

These are not the actions of a madman.
Anonymous (ID: IgoyBL2i) Netherlands No.514937765 >>514938076
>>514937584
>Most modern military analysts agree that Hitler's strategies were the best
Sorry, but this sounds like pure fantasy. It's cerainyl not true for military historians. Can you post a couple of these analyses?
>German generals after ww2 in their memoirs
The splits between Hitler and his generals during Barbarossa, caused by Hitler's bizarre 'blunders' at crucial junctures like Moscow (Directive 33) and the Caucasus/Stalingrad |(Directive 45) are well documented by wartime diaries too
Anonymous (ID: b5ieZpq8) United States No.514937796
>>514937694
And how’s that working out for you? Britain politically is its captured government. Britain the people haven’t been a political force since 1688.
Anonymous (ID: CAWrTAxh) Russian Federation No.514937811
>>514937671
nigger you do not even read russian.
that number is idiotic at best.
Anonymous (ID: YLU8surE) United Kingdom No.514937835
The anti-Hitler factions are as usual hyper aggressive, uneducated and downright naive. And the pro-Hitler factions are beginning to break through into mainstream discourse.
Anonymous (ID: CAWrTAxh) Russian Federation No.514937838
>>514937671
also your other claims are just as stupid.
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514937890 >>514938144
>>514937588
There were supporters of Shitler in Britain, with industrialist support, and especially the royals that feared the Soviet Union but it is hardly like Churchills government were controlling Shitler or in on some conspiracy. In America some of them got done for trading with the enemy.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514937897 >>514938144
>>514937588
>You actually have that backwards. Hitler was propped up by the British, Americans and Soviets for this very reason - his party and inner circle being compromised from the start
Not quite. Hitler's National Socialists were extremely loyal, many of them took a bullet for him (Hitler also took a bullet for them during the Munich Putsch). The problem was that you had conservacuck monarchists in every branch of the government and military. These were all the remnants of the old aristocracy that was abolished. They seethed at Hitler for creating a society where everyone was equal and where officers slept and dined with enlisted, and where they were ruled by a government of commoners. They thought that if they sided with the British it would lead to a restoration of the Kaiser and they would have their aristocratic privileges reinstated, so they shot Germany, and themselves, in the foot by secretly siding with the British. Even in cases where they did not make contact with the British they were insular and cliquish and regularly countermanded Hitler's orders and plotted against him behind his back.
Anonymous (ID: G8BIBS8w) Sweden No.514937939
>>514928260 (OP)
he killed bambi?
Anonymous (ID: 4rlUJN9s) Austria No.514937950 >>514938239
>>514935769
>n-no u
i hope to see the day when god wipes you disgusting kikes out.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514938076
>>514937765
Basically: Hitler's main goal in Barbarossa when they had the element of surprise was to occupy the Caucasus and obtain vital oil which was needed to keep their industry running. Halder thought he knew better and shifted resources to Moscow, leading to the disastrous offensive to try to take it. Even if they did take Moscow, the USSR wouldn't have surrendered and Germany would still have no oil.

Some generals wanted to pull back and consolidate their lines during the winter. Hitler refused to allow them to retreat. Another correct decision by Hitler, forcing the men to march in 40 degrees below zero without proper winter equipment would have been suicidal, their only hope was to remain in the shelters they had built and try to weather the cold.
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514938093
>>514937652
Shitler outlined the goal of taking Eastern European lands beyond the old German borders in Mein Kampf, then seized power quite obviously to achieve those goals. Why are you trying such obsurd revisionism like Shitler was a peaxenik?
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514938116 >>514938444
>>514937497
HAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHA HOLY FUUUUUCK YOURE SO DUMB
]WHY ARE NEO NAZIS SO STUUUPID JESUS CHRIST HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
fuckigg kek its so cute

ok anon let me fell you in anon

you see there's this thing called linear time, right? and things change over time right?

things CHANGE over time

now in hitlers time there was this event called world war one that had just happened

this event came about because, over time, the geopolitical landscape of europe CHANGED with various great powers emerging along with their networks of alliances and spheres of influence etc

this meant that you could take a shit in europe without shitting on another power or in another powers back yard, causing a chain reaciton of escalating conflict

on top of this CHANGE, the nature of war had also CHANGE D and become industrialized as technology CHANGED


because of th eabove CHANGES, you could not just wantonly go around swallowing half the european continent as even small regional conflicts could escalate dramatically, let alone war and changes in power dynamics on the scale hitler desired. on top of that, these rapidly escalating wars would INDUSTRIAL TOTAL WARS which means MASS DEATH FOR EVERYONE
Anonymous (ID: IgoyBL2i) Netherlands No.514938144
>>514937890
The British staged an elaborate play with their war party vs peace party/good-cop-bad-cop theatrics. It was all fake, British elites were and are monolithic when it comes to these matters
With Hitler, Britain and the US, and of course the jews pulling their strings, gave Germans just enough rope to hang themselves with
>>514937897
>Hitler's National Socialists were extremely loyal,
Most of them, yes of course. But US and UK had their men deep inside the nsdap and regime from the start, e.g. Hanfstaengl and Haushofer just to name a few
Anonymous (ID: sxpTSBc5) United Kingdom No.514938180
>>514933200
>brought there by force by whites
>whites
>>514937600
I'm leaning circular
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514938214 >>514938580
>>514937665
>At first Germany wanted peace with USSR
Oh? is that so? I thought Hitler was a crusader against jewish bolshavism? what happened to that whole thing?
Anonymous (ID: xSJEoMJ/) United Kingdom No.514938239
>>514937950
I like how the 2 flags that want to see us genocided also have lower birthrates. Maybe if you had children you wouldn't be hoping others become genetic dead ends like you are.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514938266
>>514937600
oh its not a random murder? are you saying there's some back story to it?
Anonymous (ID: BLriOpki) No.514938292
>>514928260 (OP)
The jews control the media and by extension our thoughts, unfortunately.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514938444 >>514939380
>>514938116
Bro, the only retard here is you. Crack open Mein Kampf. Hitler says that he aims to redefine his relationship with Britain and France. In his vision, he would not invade USSR if it would spark another world war. Now crack open another book (be careful you don't give yourself a headache) and see how Russia performed in ww1. It was a war of maneuver, not trench warfare, and it was a total Russian collapse even with the soviets outnumbering the Germans. The Russians would not have been competent to stand up to a German intervention in the 1920s. Germany would easily be able to wage a quick war and force concessions while the soviets were still consolidating power.
Anonymous (ID: evY1pztO) Georgia No.514938505 >>514938682
>>514928260 (OP)
It could've been a war against communism but you turned operation barbarossa into schizo genocidal brutal lebensraum total war that the world has never ever seen before. You purposefully killed Soviet civilians so obviously you were met with harsh resistance.
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514938580 >>514939052
>>514938214
>Oh? is that so? I thought Hitler was a crusader against jewish bolshavism? what happened to that whole thing?
Because he's not suicidal? Use your brain. Do you like niggers? Why don't you go run into the hood and start shooting your gun wildly? Oh gee, seems like a bad idea, huh?
Anonymous (ID: Cqb8Dk52) Canada No.514938682
>>514938505
>You purposefully killed Soviet civilians so obviously you were met with harsh resistance.
Only true in cases of partisanry. Reprisal attacks in response to partisans was legal at the time by international law (and every country did it even if it was frowned upon). In actuality, many (hundred of thousands) slavs joined Germany's side and fought against the communists.
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514939052
>>514938580
>Do you hate niggers? Why don't you go run into the hood and strike a deal with the niggers where they get to take half of your city. that should help the nigger problem!
>also attack other white people and draw them into a huge fight with you in the mean time so they are too busy to deal with the niggers and the niggers run rampant
> even though the whole city already hates niggers and is ready to fight them, and you could just do nothing and if the niggers attack they will get absolutely curbstomped by the entire city
>you dont do this because if you let the city curb stomp the niggers, they will give the nigger territory bakc to its old white owners, and you want the nigger land for yourself, thus you fuck everything up for everyone out of pure avarice and stupidity
Anonymous (ID: S1axd4d3) Canada No.514939380
>>514938444
holy fuck dude are you fucking high?

yea bud, because Germany could just rearm and start another huge war directly after losing ww1 in an unconditional surrender, because they totally had the resources and will to do that, and im sure the German people would have loved another war of aggression started by their leadership directly after losing the last one

jesus christ dude, use your fucking brain, i actually cannot believe how fucking stupid you are, theres no way in hell you are actually buying what you are selling here. no fucking way
Anonymous (ID: G8BIBS8w) Sweden No.514939487
>>514932004
well you forgot about us
Anonymous (ID: bzXgNl2r) United States No.514939566
>>514937691
The french/japanese/italians my friend
Anonymous (ID: c78Rxz6+) United States No.514939918
>>514933681
>In Sudetenland (Czechoslovakia) there was a German majority which wanted to reunify with Germany. The Czech government banned them and opened fire on them when their supporters protested. Hitler had already declared himself as the protector of the German people at home and abroad. There were MANY Germans abroad, living in the same homes their ancestors did for hundreds of years, which were now outside of their homeland after ww1, in explicitly anti-German regimes.
weird, this sounds so familiar but I just can't put my finger on where it happened...
Anonymous (ID: ucLTgy3v) No.514940014
>>514928260 (OP)
Germany attacked UK, failed hard. After that they decided to attack usssr.

>>514928260 (OP)
>Jewish Bolshevism
Dude, Bolsheviks was put to rule usssr by Germans.

Literally by germans.

Rus emp got 2 revolutions.

1 was Russian, second one was Bolsheviks.

Who helped Bolsheviks? German troops

So called latvian riflemans were all native germans.
Anonymous (ID: LeadBsAS) No.514940044
>>514932004
>invades Austria
germanic
>invades Sudetenland
germanic
>invades Czechia
fake nation
>invades Poland
fake nation, also you did too
>invades Denmark
germanic
>invades Norway
germanic
>invades Netherlands
swamp germanic, also UK couldn't be allowed a landing base
>>invades Belgium
>fakest nation, also UK couldn't be allowed a landing base
>>invades Luxemburg
>germanic
>invades France
decalred war, also UK couldn't be allowed a landing base
>invades Britain
declared war
>invades Yugoslavia
fake product of wwi
>invades Greece
couldn't allow allies to invade from the south
>invades USSR
preemptive, you disingenuous niggers had millions of soldiers captured right near the border just days into the invasion
>Invades US
retarded
Anonymous (ID: CyvUYhrb) United Kingdom No.514940554
WWII was the final conquest of the Anglo over Europe.

For centuries, the Anglo had been an important player in the European balance of power, but it had never possessed so much might that it could completely dominate the continent.

The protection afforded the British by the English Channel first allowed a kind of softening of the authoritarianism needed by countries under threat of conquest. This liberal attitude helped science to flourish, bringing about technological advancements that gave the Anglos yet more power.

Over the centuries, the Anglos built up their might in the colonies, particularly the USA. When the next continental struggle for supremacy arose, with the Hitlerite Germans correctly realising their fate was to dwindle into insignificance should they not take vast areas of land for themselves, the British exerted their will onto the continent one more time, but now with the added gargantuan might of the USA in tow, the Anglo was finally able to conquer the land upon which so many battles had played out in the grand game of geopolitical chess.
Anonymous (ID: OOXJFc1L) Germany No.514941846 >>514943907
>>514931165
"occupied"
sometimes you need to secure a region for some time to make sure the enemy won't do it to it, because lets say if Germany had "allowed" UK to take Denmark or France to take Benelux you'd suddenly had them at your doorstep while you needed the soldiers against Russia.
Why they didn't trust Russia is a more interesting question.
Anonymous (ID: wYxPEo5X) Poland No.514943907
>>514941846
>Why they didn't trust Russia is a more interesting question.
no, the question is what the OP meant by:
>the only European country that stepped out of line was the UK
Considering that majority of European countries did that. I've heard you endlessly repeating that "Hitler fought alone". kek
Anonymous (ID: i/SGk+8Z) No.514945051
>>514936621
>german motherland
Farherland you lying kike faggot, kill yourself.