Thread 514931518

Why did China succeed while India failed?

>>514931518 (OP)
China liberalized their economy first and benefited from the fast reforms of a single party government. India only liberalized its economy in 1991 and democracies are structurally slower at reforms than single-party states. However they benefit from being more stable and having peaceful transfers of power

>>514931519
Chinese GDP was higher than India even under Mao. If anything India's GDP was higher than china's only when china started liberalizing their economy.

>>514931518 (OP)
Benefits of a one party state

>>514931518 (OP)
Because arguably China is a single nation, where India is closer to a loose confederacy of countries who's federal government is constantly fighting and stamping out widespread ethnic conflict that makes pre-war Europe look like Weenie Hut Jr's by comparison.

There's only so much you can do if that's the cards dealt out

>>514931518 (OP)
The Chinese have an insect like industriousness and culture that values obedience. India has nothing. No creative spirit, no industriousness, no innovative spirt. I don't think India has uniquely developed or invented anything of worth to the rest of the world.

>>514931523
India has a rural mindset

>>514931523
India is an ancient country with colorful and multitude of culture, while china is a modern economic state.

>>514931525
Colorful is a polite way of saying it I suppose.

>>514931518 (OP)
China is a homogenous country that values discipline and obedience. India is splintered across different ethnic and religious groups.

You need to go back as well. There are billions of people in China and not one posts here but all their diaspora do because China is a Venezuela tier shithole. Even despite the egregious posts from jeet diaspoo, there ARE some jeet posters who actually live in India. Chinamen all post about their non-existent superiority from superior nations.

>>514931518 (OP)
East Asians are relatively white
India is brown

It's hilarious seeing the American far right call China "third worldist" now while supporting India

>>514931529
>hilarious seeing the American far right call China "third worldist" now while supporting India
Yeah, no one's doing that

>>514931530
Twitter Trumptards like Bronze Age Pervert are doing that

>>514931518 (OP)
India is loved by everyone unlike China.

>>514931531
>a couple of retard accounts on X ≠ regular consensus

>>514931519
Wrong
Mao's retardation also destroyed all the oogabooga shit that plagued China while India suffers with it to this very day

>>514931518 (OP)
>Indians cook with Ganges water
>Chinese don’t cook with Ganges water

>>514931533
It's not the regular consensus, but it's reflective of US policy, with the messaging adapted for online rightoids. JD Vance actually follows some of these people

>>514931518 (OP)
Competent dictatorship vs demoncrazy voted for by sub-70 IQ gib guzzler

>>514931518 (OP)
This is the best modern example of an authoritarian one party state that makes quick decisive decisions beating the slow bureacratic democracy that divides the government and the people. China and india were both poor raisinholes struck by famine and absolutely humiliated by foreigners, but one country was authoritarian and they made rapid decisions on fixing their country, one country became a paralyzed democracy, incompetent idiots voted into power not being able to fix anything.

>>514931518 (OP)
Top down state management vs chaotic cronyism.

>>514931531
Reminder that many if not most of the twitter Trumptard accounts are actually Indians. It is an epidemic.

>>514931519
>india
>more stable
Wtf are you smoking? It's more dangerous and they still suffer from insurgency groups and terrorists.

>>514931528
Well it certainly doesn't help that 4chan IP bans Chinese posters. I know as I went there and couldn't post regardless of the city or province I was in.

Name 3 relatively successful brown countries out of 200 or so countries in the world

what board did this thread come from?

>>514931624
Maybe /int/ who knows.

>>514931518 (OP)
Socioeconomic factors.


Nah who am I kidding.

>>514931624
it came from /int/

>>514931543
you could have just said name 1 and you still would've stumped me

>>514931538
china is authoritarian but it's just a long line of East Asian countries that became global powerhouses. i.e. Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore (mostly chinese diaspora despite being in SEA).

the fact is that East Asians are competent and the jeet diaspora is not (i.e. pakis, sri lankans, gyspies)

>>514931528
Yeah maybe because the Chinese internet is seperated from ours, Einstein ass nigga
>>514931543
UAE
Italy
USA

>>514931518 (OP)
Toilets

>>514931518 (OP)
one child policy

>>514931750
lulz can the Chinese just unleash a virus on them already? The whole world would cheer them as heroes.

>>514931519
Shut up Jew. It’s one reason and one reason only — the people. China has Chinese people; India has poos. It’s that simple.

>>514931518 (OP)
China has Chinese, India has Indians.
Simple as.

>>514931518 (OP)
Simple: lighter skin colour.

>>514931518 (OP)
1. India is full of indians

>>514931518 (OP)
Skin color

>>514933012
How do you create a disease powerful enough to kill a people who routinely cosumes dung and bathes in industrial sewage?

india is held back by caste system

>>514931518 (OP)
Average IQ

Success requires the lack of empathy, and maximum capacity for evil violence and cruelty all of which are required to kill millions and steal and plunder from others to benefit your own
This is why Chinks, Muzzies, Kikes and Christcucks were successful at some point in history and the decline in these values also lead to a decline in their prosperity
Indians neither exhibit these characteristics but we are the only group to win without sword or firing a shot

>>514931518 (OP)
they're slightly less brown.

>>514931519
False bullshit narrative.

Even before China partly liberalized its economy, China produced 3x more steel than India by the 1970s. The produced 2.5x cement production (49 million metric tons vs 19.4 million metric tons) 3.2x more coal production, had longer life expectancy than India (66 in China, 52 in India 1978), had way more women in the workface, and a lower infant moretality rate (40 per 100 vs 120 per 1000 for India). Mao made some mistakes but he still set the industrial foundations for Deng. During his leadership, China experienced “the most rapid sustained increase in life expectancy of any population in documented global history,” according to a Stanford study. All of this allowed for Deng to attract FDI and keep it there.

Also India has been in WTO since 1994 and still has not have the significant growth rate like China has had. China joined in 2001.
That 7-year advantage for India yielded no benefits in terms of GDP growth.

Not to mention, China very slowly liberalized some aspects of their economy with baby steps compared to India. There was never a neoliberal revolution in China as some people seem to think. deng hadn't even consolidated power until 1980 where the GoF went to trial. by 1987, china still only had for special economic zones in the cities of Shenzehn, Zhuai, Shantou, and Xiamen. these were cities to experiment with market oriented reforms.by 1991,they had five with the addition of island of Hainan island, but they also had had massive setbacks with the Western reaction to Tiananmen Square.

Simply liberalizing your markets doesn't guarantee success, there were many governments in the global south, both democratic and non democratic that liberalized their markets and they never became successful as china or they even stayed poor.in fact, many countries in parts of Latin America, Sub-Saharan Arica and some post-Soviet eonomies didn't experience any sustained growth or industrialization after liberalizing their economy.

>>514931518 (OP)
Another factor contributing to Chinese success is its homogeneous population, India on the other hand is quite divided

>>514931518 (OP)
The problem is that India is a western-style liberal democracy.

>>514935507
>pajeet brings up lack of empathy
Your country literally still has the caste system in 2025, something no other country has and you dare to bring up empathy?

>>514931529
>East Asians are relatively white
You mean all whites are relatively Asian?

>>514937319
My name Borat!!!
VERY nice.

>>514931518 (OP)

Jeets lack both intellectual competence and moral integrity. (relative to Han Chinese)

>>514936015
Also, China had better industrial benchmarks and social indicators than India by the late 1970s despite China being in MUCH worse shape than india in 1949. China had a warlord melee period that took place in China from 1911 to 1949, the large-scale massacres by the Japanese army in the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945), and the civil war between the Chinese Nationalists and the Chinese Communist (1927–1949) where millions of houses were destroyed and tens of millions of people died. During those decades, its industrial base was fragmented, major cities and transport hubs were bombed, occupied, or depopulated. China then had a trade embargo imposed on it by the US starting in 1950 and then by the Soviet Union starting in the early 1960s.

Meanwhile, Inda inherited its legacy infrastructure from the British including extensive railways, ports, and administrative systems. India had ~55,000 km of railway track by 1947. India had a smooth transition in administrative structures (ICS, judiciary, etc.). India also faced no multilateral or bilateral economic sanctions from either superpowers of the US or Soviet Union during its formative decades.