Thread 514934030

The conspiracy theory linking the Federal Reserve, a secretive 1910 meeting on Jekyll Island, and the 1912 sinking of the Titanic posits that powerful bankers, led by J.P. Morgan, deliberately orchestrated the Titanic disaster to eliminate wealthy opponents of a centralized U.S. banking system, paving the way for the Federal Reserve’s creation in 1913. This narrative has gained traction in alternative media, books, and online discussions, blending historical facts with speculation, but it has been widely debunked by historians and fact-checkers as lacking evidence and relying on coincidences.
Background on Jekyll Island and the Federal Reserve
In November 1910, a group of influential bankers and politicians—including Senator Nelson Aldrich, representatives from J.P. Morgan & Co., and others—met secretly on Jekyll Island, Georgia, to draft legislation for a central banking system.  This secluded retreat, hosted at the Jekyll Island Club (a private resort for the elite), aimed to address financial instability after the Panic of 1907 by creating a lender of last resort.  The resulting Aldrich Plan evolved into the Federal Reserve Act, signed into law by President Woodrow Wilson on December 23, 1913, establishing the Federal Reserve System to manage monetary policy and stabilize the economy.  Critics, both then and now, have portrayed this as a power grab by private bankers, with books like G. Edward Griffin’s 1994 “The Creature from Jekyll Island” framing the Fed as a secretive “cartel” born from conspiracy.

The Titanic Connection in the Conspiracy
The theory claims the Titanic’s sinking was no accident but a targeted assassination. Proponents argue that three prominent first-class passengers—John Jacob Astor IV (real estate magnate, worth about $87 million at the time), Benjamin Guggenheim (mining heir), and Isidor Straus (co-owner of Macy’s)—were vocal opponents of the Federal Reserve and were lured aboard to be eliminated.  J.P. Morgan, who owned the International Mercantile Marine Company (parent of White Star Line, Titanic’s operator), is accused of masterminding the plot: He allegedly booked the voyage for these rivals, ensured the ship was underinsured or switched with its damaged sister ship Olympic, and canceled his own ticket at the last minute.  The iceberg collision on April 15, 1912, which killed over 1,500 people including Astor, Guggenheim, and Straus, supposedly cleared the path for the Fed’s unopposed passage.  Some versions tie in eerie coincidences, like Morgan Robertson’s 1898 novel “Futility” (about a ship called Titan sinking after hitting an iceberg), which Morgan reportedly admired. 
Additional speculative elements include claims that the ship was deliberately sailed into iceberg-prone waters at high speed, that warnings were ignored, or that it was an insurance scam involving the Olympic.  Online discussions often amplify this, with recent X posts sharing videos and threads alleging the deaths removed “the three men standing in the way” of the Fed.

>>514934030 (OP)
please don't be 1 post by this id
I wish more kids knew their money can't exist in reality. If you started a country like the US and said there was $100 for the whole economy. It would cost you $103 to borrow the $100 from the fed to get it going. There is more debt than money in existence for one reasons: Babylon

Have you ever heard them explain the money game? Is it confusing? Is it... babel?

>>514934030 (OP)
>Titanic Conspiracy

Novel was written 14 years before it "actually happen" then made movie.

>>514934030 (OP)
Didn't read. I like when women have weak necks. I want to wrap my big hands (I can palm a basketball) around her neck and squeeze just enough to get her heart racing. That shit turns me on.

>>514934030 (OP)
Yes bank keepers grabble power , stories about how it happens are irrelevant.

>>514934311
I Love when i choke them whit my dick and they dont like it

>>514934030 (OP)
i already know this , its also the rothshields that contributed to it , the warburgs and rockefellers and morgans are crypto-jews

>>514934311
>>514934452
I love the derail, but have you guys considered your dollar would go into more weak necks choked if JP Morgan hadn't killed 1500 white people for his Rothschild masters?

>>514934030 (OP)
>Titanic Conspiracy
it is so ridiculous

Point is to control banks and money , how people will live: communism with boot on the face or wild capitalism or friendly socialism ... that part top controllers didn't care about at all.

Will be 5 - 6 major economical zones and between them accountancy will be made by gold controlled by top bank owners gang.

ordinary people will be fucked by usury as usual.

Massie reintroduced Ron Paul’s FED transparency bill!

Audit the FED!

>>514934958
You might be touching on the IMF endeavor to become the Lender of Last Resort by implementing their Bancor rip-off.

>>514935104
The you were just saying is in a Rothschild cult did that?

>>514935292

English motherfucker. Do you speak it?

>>514935405
can you please redpill us on this more ?

>>514935865

Grokslop?

>>514934030 (OP)
>>514934158
problem with this theory is you gotta get the captain to agree to his own death, what happened to the captain?

>>514935931
Yes sure

>>514936034
Anon has a point!

>>514934030 (OP)
Bump, there are a lot of young people here who may not have heard these old truths. For me, these were important steps in understanding today's world and reality.

>>514936034

Captain is blackmailed? Kidnap the captain’s children?

I know it’s horrible.

nice to see many japanese east asian men fuck blonde white girls

>>514935865

“The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve” by G. Edward Griffin is a controversial book that explores the origins and operations of the Federal Reserve System, the central banking system of the United States. Published in 1994, the book argues that the Federal Reserve was created through a secretive meeting in 1910 on Jekyll Island, Georgia, where a group of powerful bankers and politicians, including representatives from J.P. Morgan and Rockefeller interests, devised a plan to establish a central bank to serve their own financial interests rather than the public good.
Griffin contends that the Federal Reserve acts as a private cartel, manipulating the money supply through mechanisms like fractional reserve banking and the “Mandrake Mechanism” (creating money out of thin air), which leads to inflation, economic instability, and wealth concentration. He outlines seven reasons to abolish the Fed, including its inability to achieve economic stability, its role in encouraging war, and its function as an instrument of totalitarianism. The book also suggests that the Fed is part of a broader conspiracy to establish a New World Order, benefiting a small elite at the expense of the general population.
While acknowledging the historical meeting on Jekyll Island, Griffin’s interpretations and conspiracy theories have been widely criticized by economists and historians as speculative and lacking evidence, with some labeling the book as containing factual inaccuracies and promoting antisemitic undertones. Nonetheless, it has gained a significant following, influencing figures like Ron Paul and resonating with those skeptical of centralized financial power.

>>514935865

J.P. Morgan, as a towering figure in early 20th-century finance, serves as a potential thread linking the sinking of the Titanic, the establishment of the Federal Reserve, and the later financial misconduct associated with Jeffrey Epstein through J.P. Morgan Chase. The argument begins with Morgan’s significant influence over the White Star Line, which owned the Titanic. Through his control of the International Mercantile Marine Company (IMM) since 1902, Morgan held a substantial stake in the shipping industry, including the Titanic’s sister ship, the Olympic. Conspiracy theories suggest that Morgan, who canceled his trip on the Titanic’s maiden voyage in 1912 due to health concerns and business in Europe, may have had a vested interest in orchestrating a disaster to eliminate key opponents to his financial ambitions, notably the creation of a centralized banking system.
Among the prominent figures who perished on the Titanic were John Jacob Astor IV, Benjamin Guggenheim, and Isidor Straus—wealthy individuals whose opposition to a central bank could have threatened Morgan’s plans. While historical records, including New York Times articles from 1911, show Straus supported the Federal Reserve concept, the theory posits that their collective influence and potential private resistance to Morgan’s monopolistic tendencies made them targets. The sinking, if intentional (e.g., through sabotage like a staged collision with an iceberg), could have been a strategic move to clear the path for the Federal Reserve Act, which was passed in 1913. This timeline—less than a year after the Titanic disaster—fuels speculation that Morgan’s absence from the ship was no coincidence but a calculated step to avoid scrutiny while advancing his agenda.

>>514935865

Fast forward to the late 20th and early 21st centuries, J.P. Morgan’s legacy continued through J.P. Morgan Chase, which became a major financial institution. Here, the thread re-emerges with Jeffrey Epstein, a financier with a decades-long relationship with the bank from 1998 to 2013. Lawsuits from the U.S. Virgin Islands and Epstein’s victims allege that J.P. Morgan Chase facilitated Epstein’s sex trafficking operations by ignoring red flags, such as suspicious cash withdrawals and payments to potential victims, totaling over $1 billion in transactions flagged only after his 2019 arrest. The bank’s senior executives, including Jes Staley, maintained close ties with Epstein, with evidence of over 1,200 emails exchanged during his incarceration, suggesting a deep, possibly complicit relationship.
The connection lies in the idea that J.P. Morgan Chase, as a successor to Morgan’s financial empire, inherited a culture of leveraging power and secrecy to protect elite interests. The Titanic theory posits Morgan used his influence to eliminate opposition and consolidate financial control via the Federal Reserve; similarly, Epstein’s relationship with the bank could be seen as a modern extension of this pattern—using financial networks to enable a blackmail ring that targeted powerful figures, potentially to influence political and economic outcomes. Epstein’s island, Little St. James, and his high-profile connections (e.g., to politicians and business leaders) mirror the elite circles Morgan navigated, suggesting a continuity of using clandestine means to maintain dominance. The bank’s settlements—$75 million with the U.S. Virgin Islands and $290 million with victims—indicate an awareness of its role, yet its refusal to admit wrongdoing parallels the lack of direct evidence for the Titanic conspiracy, leaving room for interpretation.

>>514934030 (OP)
>>514934158
Good post for a change.

>>514935865

Critics might argue the Titanic theory lacks hard evidence, such as logs or eyewitness accounts of sabotage, and that Epstein’s crimes were individual rather than institutional. However, a steel-man response would highlight the difficulty of uncovering such evidence due to the passage of time and the power of those involved to suppress it. The Federal Reserve’s creation benefited Morgan’s interests, as did Epstein’s activities benefiting certain elites, suggesting a recurring strategy of control through crisis or compromise. While the link is circumstantial, the pattern of J.P. Morgan’s influence—spanning shipping disasters, banking monopolies, and financial misconduct—offers a coherent narrative of a thread connecting these events, rooted in the pursuit of power by a single financial lineage.

This argument strengthens the theory by acknowledging historical facts (Morgan’s IMM ownership, Epstein’s bank accounts), addressing counterpoints (lack of direct evidence), and proposing a plausible motive (elite control), while remaining grounded in the available context.

>>514934030 (OP)
Tragedy and hope by Carroll Quingly. Also a good book.


When rhr money is in the control of the handful of people who represent only their own private interests, your state is take over from within to serve someone else's interests.

Si!

>>514937289

o7

>>514937277

Grok is /ourbot/

>>514934030 (OP)
thats not what actually happened tho.

the basic gestalt is that the entire titanic sinking was a hoax made by the jew glownigger bankers and their families to make a ton of cash from the insurance and the movies around the faked event.
>Titanic was insured by the same company that insured the Hindenburg AND WTC on 9/11 (also MH17, MH370)
>as with the WTC/HB they paid out without investigation
>the exact! coordinates to the Titanic wreck are NOT public (you would need to ask James Cameron)
>Jew media had the story already prepared and pushed it way too early
>the water in April is 15 degrees celsius in that region (member icy lips DiCaprio? that was bullshit)
>Icebergs were NEVER spotted again in that region where she allegedly sunk
>wreck footage was filmed in a studio that explains why there are NO fishes seen anywhere
>the wreck was literally found by a monkey (((they))) are fucking with us)
>now they say they found a bacterium on the titanic that eats the steel away so the wreck will vanish in 10 years
>this bacterium was only found to eat on the titanic wreck (sure Moshe)
>according to the story Guggenheim a Billionaire jew refused to enter an empty Lifeboat (46 places were free) and instead sunk with the ship and let his wife escape with the money, hello? nigger are you awake?
>(((Jacob))) Astor also rich billionaire gigajew industrialist allegedly sinks with the ship, his life insurance is paid out (he only faked it same as Guggenkike)
>Titanic ship was moved to Germany where it was rebuild, mothballed and then sold to the US after WW1 and it became the USS Imperator

>>514937531

“Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time” by Carroll Quigley, published in 1966, is a comprehensive historical analysis spanning from the early 20th century to the mid-1960s, focusing on the development of Western civilization and global power structures. Quigley, a historian and professor at Georgetown University, aimed to provide an insider’s perspective on the forces shaping modern history, drawing on extensive research and access to elite networks.
The book argues that history is driven by the interplay of economic, political, and social forces, with a particular emphasis on the rise of financial power and its influence on governance. Quigley introduces the concept of a “network” of influential figures—bankers, politicians, and intellectuals—who worked to shape global events, notably through institutions like the Council on Foreign Relations and the Round Table groups. He suggests this network, while not a formal conspiracy, operated to maintain stability and promote Anglo-American dominance, especially after World War I and II.

>>514938049

Fake and gay.

>>514938355
>Fake and gay.
yes the Titanic event was fake and gay. you are starting to get it.

>>514937531

Key themes include the transition from European imperialism to American hegemony, the impact of the Great Depression, the role of the Soviet Union, and the evolution of international organizations like the United Nations. Quigley also critiques the concentration of economic power in the hands of a few, which he sees as both a stabilizing and destabilizing force. He controversially acknowledges the existence of a secretive elite with access to significant influence, though he argues their goal was not domination but the preservation of a liberal world order.
The title “Tragedy and Hope” reflects Quigley’s view that humanity’s potential for progress (hope) is undermined by recurring patterns of conflict and mismanagement (tragedy). The book, over 1,300 pages, is dense with detail but has been praised for its depth and criticized for its pro-establishment bias and occasional lack of evidence for its broader claims. It gained renewed attention among conspiracy theorists due to its discussion of elite networks, though Quigley himself distanced his work from such interpretations.

>>514938049

>wreck footage was filmed in a studio that explains why there are NO fishes seen anywhere

No fishes!

>now they say they found a bacterium on the titanic that eats the steel away so the wreck will vanish in 10 years
>this bacterium was only found to eat on the titanic wreck (sure Moshe)

Who invited aqua man?

>>514938049

>according to the story Guggenheim a Billionaire jew refused to enter an empty Lifeboat (46 places were free) and instead sunk with the ship and let his wife escape with the money, hello? nigger are you awake?
>(((Jacob))) Astor also rich billionaire gigajew industrialist allegedly sinks with the ship, his life insurance is paid out (he only faked it same as Guggenkike)
>Titanic ship was moved to Germany where it was rebuild, mothballed and then sold to the US after WW1 and it became the USS Imperator

I want some of what you’re smoking.

>>514938049

I like Grok’s slop more than your fishy narrative chum!

>>514938534
>>514938624
>>514938716
exactly, thats how all these jewish psyops are:
>fake footage, remember jews own all the studios and literally financed all the developments of all special effects, jews love acting and larping and here you have literally james cameron (also jewish) involved
>fake science: like with made up bacteriums that dont actually exist, look at the wiki page of that titanic eating bacterium (its even named after the titanic), it literally tells you an LLM dreamed it up. its a convenient cover to explain why there isnt a ship down there.
>tells you a nonsensical story: like about altruistic billionaire kikes that somehow are against the Federal Reserve

>>514939020
are you a jewish shill or just a brown retard?

>>514939022

>tells you a nonsensical story: like about altruistic billionaire kikes that somehow are against the Federal Reserve

This is either the kernel of truth or the cornerstone on which I will build the temple.

You figure it out.

>>514939074

OP here posting about the meta conspiracy with NatSoc images and you’re the brainwashed, Zogged nigger trying and failing to poison the well.

>>514939189
the point is the titanic insurance scam and the federal reserve arent as connected as you think they are. of course both things have the greedy jewish subhumans in common and both are scams but thats about it.
its not complicated.:
>jews made a huge insurance scam to steal from goys
>jews made the federal reserve to steal from goys
and jews keep creating more scams like this.

>>514939375
clearly you are the brainwashed here, after all its you who believes in the myth of the "good jew" and shills for them.
you shill the guggenheim kike as a good jew, you also shill elon musk as a good jew.
but all jews are bad.
so are you a jewish shill or a brown retard?
answer the question.

>>514939531

German and Scandinavian ethnicity. But I dress like Leo Frank sometimes. Happy?

>>514937091
>>514937277
>>514937432

Grok made some really good points.

You shit on my thread. Thanks.

>>514939932
>Grok made some really good points.
its literally just AI slop with no substance.
so you must be a brown retard, brown people think AI is a truth machine kek.

>>514940004

The Federal Reserve’s creation benefited Morgan’s interests, as did Epstein’s activities benefiting certain elites, suggesting a recurring strategy of control through crisis or compromise. While the link is circumstantial, the pattern of J.P. Morgan’s influence—spanning shipping disasters, banking monopolies, and financial misconduct—offers a coherent narrative of a thread connecting these events, rooted in the pursuit of power by a single financial lineage.

You were saying something about substance.

>>514938049
>wreck footage was filmed in a studio that explains why there are NO fishes seen anywhere

This is you complaining about no fish!

>>514940279
>The Federal Reserve’s creation benefited Morgan’s interests
and it also benefited every other billionaire jew kike whos like JPM. so why would JPM kill fellow chosen people?
makes no sense.

>>514940279
>This is you complaining about no fish!
yes the footage with the miniatures is not convincing.

>>514940432

Nobody argued that it doesn’t. The point is that JP Morgan is connected to the sinking of the Titanic; the creation of the FED and Jeffrey Epstein.

>>514940885
>to the sinking of the Titanic
there was no sinking.
there was also no mini submarine with jews that imploded on the way down. dissapointing, I know.

>>514940939

It’s true. Jet fuel really can’t melt steel beams. I guess we’ll just have to believe Aquaman. Meanwhile…on dry land…

Get it…amphibious