Thread 514934386

How does the economy work unironically?
Specifically white collar jobs.
There's like 80,000 sales CRM software companies all employing people.
I work for one and they pay me well.
But I don't understand how they do it.
People just keep reinventing the same tired shit over and over.
Nobody is actually providing value.
It's all a performance where we pretend what we do is real and useful.

So I ask you again. How does the economy actually work? Are blue collar workers the only people actually doing anything real?

>>514934386 (OP)
After 2008 it became clear that it would be impossible to unravel so we just keep doubling down on the zombie economy with fiat

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>>514934386 (OP)
yes you're right, it's all jewish numbers going up, going down however they choose
it all stopped making sense couple centuries ago, now all the jobs like yours are pretending to create value, but nothing really matters
it's going to come crashing down again and again but the worldwide jews will never admit to the goyim that the system is fake because they get power from owning all the imaginary money

>>514934386 (OP)
>Nobody is actually providing value.
>It's all a performance where we pretend what we do is real and useful.
>So I ask you again. How does the economy actually work?
It doesn't. It's going to fucking crash hard and send us back to the dark ages in our lifetime
>T. Former financial, advisor, big 4 accountant, and Dept of Treasury employee.

>>514935277
>Nobody is actually providing value

You must be completely fucked in the head if you believe this about the entire white collar economy. Hilarious.

>>514934386 (OP)
If you were truly useless sociopath CEOs would have cut you off already.
You do provide value since you keep the shit in the pyramid scheme of ours going downhill and the money going uphill.

>>514934386 (OP)
>How does the economy work unironically?

Some people do productive work which produces things that people need to live and some people do non productive work that no one would normally pay for. The productive people fight for dollars already in circulation and the non productive people are paid for by the government printing money. Every time they do they reduce the value of every dollar in circulation so everyone holding cash gets slightly poorer.

But as you stated even the productive people do bullshit jobs that don't directly manufacture anything, instead they administer the importation of goods from places like china and those goods are paid for in US dollars. The economy works by you giving your dollars to the chinese who then use that money to buy up land in your country.

You are funding your lifestyle by selling your country.

>>514934386 (OP)
keep in mind always the money is made up (imaginary). banks have zero reserve requirements, so when they create a loan and transfer it into your account, it is not real money sitting around somewhere. it is just an account ledger--the bank bets you will make more payments than you spend--at the scale of a large bank, this works out on average, and so the bank takes your payments and sells you nothing that they even have.

blue collar workers must earn dollars with labor to make payments to banks. white collar workers are paid out of the bank loans (by investors) and try to collect dollars from consumers (bank accounts) to make dollar payments, like a form of tax or waste.

so banks invent (fake) money and loan it to investors and consumers. blue collar trades (real) labor for dollars to make (real) payments for loans, goods, and services (consumption). white collar trades (fake) loans for real (blue collar) labor to collect payments from consumers for bank loans.

>>514934386 (OP)
everything market goes thorough cycles. right now, american computer niggers are at or near the bottom with the pajeet h1b nepotism mafia running wild and shitting where they please. it's only a phase, and it will change. you can see the jeet hate rising. politics will shift, and indians will be forced out. blue collar workers are probably about to get screwed. inflation for their raw/finished materials is continuing to rise and unemployment in the general population is rising. there are some repairs that are necessities, but a lot of their work comes from wants rather than needs. also, except for maybe electricians, they all destroy their bodies over time. i've seen mechanics in their 30's with destroyed hands that will never function properly again. the only sector that never seems to get completely fucked is govt and healthcare (where i work), but i believe that our time to get screwed will come.

>>514935902
Sounds like we need to keep money from flowing out of the country at all costs.

>>514936169
Why can't the banks and investors deal directly with blue collar investments. Why the indirection through fake jobs and fake companies?

>>514934386 (OP)
>How does the economy actually work?
money printer goes brrrrrrrr, mostly everyone has an occupation, what you call a "job". I am payed to sit in front a computer, it's not work, but what should I do as a lazy semi retarded guy ? Well I would have been a monk maybe in other times or dead most likely.
This system was created because dead people don't spend money, so the idea is country creates money (and debt), gives it to people who spend it and it ends in the pockets of the rich people selling stuff.
It may come to an end now as selling stuff to people isn't the biggest part of the economy. It is possible to sustain the system while getting rid of the people.

>>514935366
>You must be completely fucked in the head if you believe this about the entire white collar economy. Hilarious.
It's the harsh truth and no one wants to hear it. Everyone is just dicking around and ultimately trying to look busy, no one in the corporate world or white collared work sitting behind a desk actually accomplishes anything of value and hasn't in a long time.

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>>514934386 (OP)
In the early days you had tribes. In each tribe you had plebeians and patricians. The patricians had full control of all natural and man-made resources and reserved the right to procreate with the most prized females of the tribe. Needless to say the patricians were never stingy with their fellow patricians, always sharing resources with them, making sure their needs were all met, that they were given land, that they were happy and content and lived comfortable lives. Because the patricians were all related. They were one big family.

Today it's the same situation. The tribes have grown and merged and created alliances. The population is larger now but the the structure of society is exactly the same.

The people you're talking about are just the patricians who have the good pay in the good jobs stay home during the day and go swimming or play tennis or go golfing or go out to lunch at nice restaurants and sometimes even show up to the office to socialize with fellow patricians and do the plebs' performance reviews.

They send their patrician children to university to party and socialize with other patricians and prepare them for their roles as future overlords.

The patricians give each other money. They pass it out to one another. They own the printing press, and like any other resource, they simply share the fruit of the press with all their fellow patricians and give the plebs enough to eat frozen pizza to stay alive to work.

tl;dr the patricians simply share money like any other resource because they own the government, the printing press, the banks and control every other resource while gate-keeping access to wealth in every form for plebs.

>>514934386 (OP)
White collar jobs are mostly in b2b companies. Follow the paper trails and eventually one of them is b2c, which means it is us consumers paying for your salary.

>>514936905
Software engineer here. I can confirm.

>>514936169
So how do I get more goy-bucks?

>>514934386 (OP)
>CRM
They don't have to be good. They just have to be better than something like a excel/google sheets for tracking customers. Which, even a pretty poor one can do that, because they are a customer database with some features tacked on, like they have a form that collects leads, or they automate repetitive tasks like sending followups. That's it.

The reason I suspect why there are so many is because that barrier to entry is so low, and a lot of them are around $10-15 per user per month, so it's not hard to justify the cost to a business, it just has to save them more than that per month which isn't hard.

What's ridiculous about this market niche is that it's over saturated. Like I know several people that work in sales/marketing and they all hate things like Hubspot now (10 years ago they were singing its praises). So I think in a large part the market is being sustained by players who are constantly hopping around (and that would also indicate why the price point is so low, it's like the app store race to the bottom where you go from 9.99, to 4.99 and so on until it gets to 99c and below).

Personally I just go for my own self hosted option for my business. But I'm an exception, the vast majority of small to medium sized businesses will happily enter into a SaaS type subscription because they need something to track customers, collect data and automate tedium, and they want something that "just works".

Is there a lot of waste at companies? Yeah even at an efficient company, full of "high performers" (aka good worker bees) I'd say 10% of the workforce don't do anything. One thing I noticed in certain fields like "account manager" or "digital marketer" was it was mostly women, and these women were "eye candy", not just for the boomer perverts in the office but you have a pretty young woman in a skirt going to events or "making sure the client is happy" - they tend to enjoy these roles, because there's no work and the men they work with seldom complain.

>>514936735
it is just about where you get your money. if you need dollars, you can get them from consumers or from wages. if you sell, you are white collar. if you labor, you are blue collar. what is being sold ultimately is just imaginary bank loans. and yet all the economy's labors all get done and charged for with completely imaginary dollars all along that never were even printed or even existed in some kind of bank vault.

>>514934386 (OP)
The economy is backed by ignorance, not fiat.

>>514936905
>It's the harsh truth and no one wants to hear it. Everyone is just dicking around and ultimately trying to look busy, no one in the corporate world or white collared work sitting behind a desk actually accomplishes anything of value and hasn't in a long time.

Corportate world sure, throw it out. Desk work? Lots of technical sciences and theortical research is done by a HUGE cadre of hardworking intellectuals. Yes there are 3-4 middle managers and shitters leeching for every productive guy.

>>514936169
yea this pretty much we became a society that place value on digital goods (SaaS products, onlyfans, social media and advertising) as much as real goods.

secondly money flows up to the top corporations no matter what sector it is - ie. walmart, costco, apple, whatever.

money doesn't flow down really - unless it's a startup investment. people / corporations with money don't want to support small businesses or fair wages, they want a piece of the pie of a business that can scale and they'd gamble on 1/1000 odds to play that instead of spending money on (y0u)

bitcoin's a symptom of this hellscape that's created