Thread 514988465

Farage seems cool. Why dont you guys just vote him?

>vote right
>get jews

>vote left
>get jews

I hecking love democracy

>>514988573
>>vote right
>>get jews
>>vote left
>>get jews
>I hecking love democracy
Vote Right Get African
Vote Left Get African

>>514988465 (OP)
He is an MP now but they have to wait a few years or for Starmer to panic and call an election early. I like Farage mostly because Elon doesn't.

>>514988465 (OP)
He isn't cool. He is a gatekeeper, and he outright states this multiple times, to prevent British politics ever becoming racial. He has no issue with whites being replaced legally. We had the BNP political party that was ethno-nationalist and he was activated to destroy it, and then bragged about how he alone took down the BNP. Obviously boomers love Farage as multi-racial civil nationalism is their religion.

>>514988465 (OP)
I don't know I try not to pay attention and live happy

First past the post is certainly one of the systems of all time

>>514988901
Farage is trying to get elected bro. Obviously he cant endorse white nationalism or anything like that. Realistically he is your best chance at getting any significant deportations.

>>514988465 (OP)
He's a conman.

>>514988715
>I like Farage mostly because Elon doesn't.
Elon dislikes Farage because he is opposed to re-migration and has a jihadi boss that owns Reform. There is nothing to like about Farage, he is a quintessential boomer.

>>514989169
He isn't neutral on ethnio-nationalism; he's hide hiding his power levels - he is outright opposed to it vehemently. He is not against native Brits being replaced in a breeding war.

>>514989169
>Realistically he is your best chance at getting any significant deportations.

The deportation pipe dream.

Before elections
>Deportations deportations deportations

After elections
>We need more 3rd worlders

People have to be retarded to fall for the same trick over and over.

>>514988465 (OP)
They will.

>>514988465 (OP)
Farage's beef with the establishment is purely that he's on the outside of it. Make no mistake, he's just as much a wet boomer establishment type as the rest of them.

>>514988465 (OP)
he's the most british looking man I can imagine, even his name is turbo british

>>514989755
What's the most american looking man you can imagine?

>>514988901
what if he recognises the replacement problem, but also the problem of being torn apart and discredited by the media, to an audience of dull-eyed, uncritical mongs who take everything at face-value, before he can get anywhere near the seat of power, if he ever lets on that he's overtly pro-native?
isn't that why the NF and BNP failed, and—worse than that—undermined any progress made on waking people up to the problem?
it was all too easy for the papers to paint them as 'violent neo-nazi thugs', 'not financially trustworthy', 'inbred yobs', etc., with a smear tailor-made for the consumption of each social class
these parties failed to acknowledge that Overton Window shifting is a prerequisite when undoing decades of indoctrination; you cannot simply throw people in at the deep-end, because it's far too scary to them, and they'll reject your message no matter how true it may be

Farage is playing the game, but that doesn't necessarily mean he agrees with it
remember he has to walk a fine line between being accepted by the working classes, and still trying to demonstrate his middle class credentials, whilst also not give the media any ammunition whatsoever

it sounds obvious, but you've made the schoolboy error of taking a politician at his word

>>514988465 (OP)
because we don't have an election until 2029

>>514988465 (OP)
For me, it's Lowe.

>>514989882
for me, it's this bastard

After Lee Anderon's barnstorming speech this afternoon I will be voting Reform. Dolescum are the biggest problem in this country whatever pol might think from afar. It should be legal to hunt them with hounds but I'd settle for a modest across the board 50% reduction in benefits (and nothing for "bad back" and "anxiety", get a fucking job the exercise will sort you out) to start with and go on cutting from there.

>>514989979
That is what peak performance looks like. That is one bad ass mother fucker, if you redcoats saw that dude barreling towards you on some Revolutionary War battlefield in 1776 you'd flee the other way frens.

>>514990406
Unemployment instantly goes up by 8 million.

>>514989882
Randy Pitchford

Though I'm left wing I'm still proud our politics is still so supple that third parties have a tangible impact on mainstream politics. It's great seeing the main parties frightened of Reform (and hopefully the jezztana party too but maybe that's copium)

>>514990527
As Lee says, too many regard benefits as a cushy lifestyle option. They need a short sharp shock.

>>514988465 (OP)
He's basically the personification of the scheming anglo. We already saw it with Brexit, spearheaded the entire campaign and once he won he proceeded to fuck off to some villa in the Netherlands for a few years before resuming his political career. I have no hope in him that he'll do anything other than suck up whatever wealth is left in the public system in the UK and hand it all off to private banking interests in London. He's a vulture.

>>514989755
>he's the most british looking man I can imagine, even his name is turbo british
Ironically "Farage" is a French name and he is a descendant of French Huguenot immigrants to the UK.

>>514990770
That's fine if he can pull 12 million jobs out of his arsehole.

>>514990845
>We already saw it with Brexit, spearheaded the entire campaign and once he won he proceeded to fuck off to some villa in the Netherlands for a few years before resuming his political career
I know nothing about Farage so I'll make up a story.

Farage thought that Brexit had been won and he could walk away but The Government didn't follow through and dragged it's heels so he had to come back.

>>514988901
>>514989341
so you'd rather have Starmer? wignats are silly people

>>514990655
the LabTories have got a good thing going, taking turns at buggering us, and the morons ITT are playing right into their hands with their incessant purity spiralling
no, a Christian-centric party simply isn't going to get as many votes (nobody goes to church)
no, a hardline "deport all forins" party isn't going to get any traction at this point either, when the Overton Window has *just* shifted to the point of allowing overt criticism of migration, and even then... only when directed at the current wave of boat-migrants

for now, Blair's horde are still pedestalised and above reproach—making Farage the best chance of taking things rightwards
Reform are the pragmatic choice

>Though I'm left wing
we can have socialism when we're not being bled dry

>>514990770
>As Lee says, too many regard benefits as a cushy lifestyle option.
It is for some.
Especially those that scam their way onto PIP, they can take home more than a minimum wage worker.
The the 'dole families' scam ever more by having another family member as a 'carer'.

This needs to be clamped down.

>>514990845
>once he won he proceeded to fuck off to some villa in the Netherlands for a few years before resuming his political career
he'd been pushing for Britain to leave since '89
be fair to the man
did he not deserve a break after fighting a battle for 27 years and then winning?

>>514988465 (OP)
Farage is part of the establishment.

>>514991588
they all are, anon
but the establishment isn't monolithic

>>514988465 (OP)
>redpill me on UK politics

>>514988465 (OP)
Did people forget he almost died in a plane crash?

>>514991729
>trade unions
>pushing the depression of wages via migration
>impoverishing the working class
make it make sense

>>514988465 (OP)
moar?

>>514991864
Internalized white guilt by the citizens, foreign money for the elites.

>>514991864
>>trade unions
>>pushing the depression of wages via migration
>>impoverishing the working class
>make it make sense
They want to destroy white society.
China and Socialism wins then.

Do whites allow it? That is the question.

>>514991935
>Internalized white guilt by the citizens, foreign money for the elites.
Nicely summed up anon.

>>514991140
How about 12 million people take responsibility for themselves instead? Not too much to ask.

They are also going to end the emphasis on academic subjects in schools and move to "trades and services" which makes a lot of sense. Girls back to taking dictation and needlework, boys to metal work and so forth. Great stuff.

>>514992178
what do you think of policies which afford greater social mobility?
so the working class lads with a brain don't get stuck welding bits of metal together with the trogs?

>>514988465 (OP)
Hugely popular, witness the "Operation raise the colours for Nigel Farage" movement sweeping the nation to coincide with the Reform annual conference.

>>514992352
Lee was a coal miner for decades. Hard work did him no harm. Its simply common sense.

>>514992492
oh, well that didn't answer my question at all
you just talked right past me there
are you perhaps thick as shit?

>>514989169
He's our trump. A clown that won't do anything but enrich himself and his masters.
If farage gets elected then that's the day I go to war against the state.

>>514992536
NTA
But if a guy wants to go forward academically, then surely Uni is the option?

>>514990644
Why change a winning strategy?
They keep falling for it.

>>514992623
>>514992694
OK big mouth lefties.

What's the alternative?

>>514990770
>They need a short sharp shock.
Everyone does. Especially the right.
Growing up watching Jordan Peterson and Milo the poof has instilled a sense of confidence in a generation of weak men.
Trump and Putin are idolised by them.
They think they are le based and powerful when in fact they are useful idiots with no clue how bad things are actually going to get.
Spoiled, media whores brought up by single mothers. Lifting weights and going gym thinking it makes them strong.
They can't even tame their women.
The current right wing needs to take a serious beating before they will be ready for the real questions.

>>514992667
and how is a working class boy, who received a 'Lee Anderson non-academic education'—apparently primarily in metalwork—reasonably supposed to get into university to do a STEM subject, anon?

do you see the exact problem I'm highlighting here or not?
it casts working class people into blue collar roles from birth; it decreases social mobility

>>514991429
>minimum wage worker
These are the only people who care. Jealousy is a powerful tool.
Truth is, minimum wage workers could have done better but didn't.
Absolutely nobody cares what they think.
Imagine working for less than you can get for nothing.
And then expecting anyone to listen to you?
Lmao.

>>514988465 (OP)
My problem is, those that dislike him have no alternative solution or plan for change. What are they going to say “I’ll be voting Labour again” “I’m voting conservative this time”, “Lib dem”, “Green” “Kill them all”…. They’re a joke and should be laughed at, they have no alternative, they’re retarded and why this country is in the mess it is. All they can spew is their hate for Farage without any viable alternative. I’m up for an alternative, if you think Refirm isn’t it, let’s hear your solution and plan that isn’t a joke

>>514991588
Everyone is a part of the establishment.
It isn't us v them. It's me v you v him.
You form groups and push your poison.
Somewhere in the middle works best.
The problem we have now is that in the last 150 years we added female power and globalism into the mix.
It will take a few billion dead to work this one out.

>>514991320

Maybe you shouldn't be beyond reproach because of antagonistic punctuation?

Bit retarded isnt it really.

>>514992782
>lefties
You clearly failed to comprehend my arguments over the past hour.
I AM the right.
You are the useful idiots that will lead to the actual right.
What's happening now is just the warm up.

>>514993086
I see what you are trying to say but gearing towards a practical type education doesn't mean that stem subjects are rejected.
Surely this can be addressed in the last few years of school, when the less bright can focus on non-academic subjects and the other be streamed into something they are good at (maybe extra maths or science)?

Just a thought.

>>514993524
It's called the 11+.

>>514993476
You haven't answered my question.

You're just spouting shit.

If Farage is crap, then what's YOUR alternative?

>Vote Reform to take back your country goys!
They made us sick to sell us the cure, making sure to bundle zionism into the cure recipe

>>514993476
This reads like deep down, you support hard left politics. You’ve had left wing politics for decades, and look where the country is. But the right wing politics seems to induce a state of panic, anxiety, fear and anger for you. Isn’t it strange that you’re comfortable with hard left but deeply upset about hard right. We’re not even close to a genuine right wing party by the way, not anywhere near. So like the other anon said, what is your solution or plan? You can’t honestly say more left wing politics, because it’s been a disaster so what is your solution

>>514993632
>YOUR alternative?
My alternative is to wait and see where we are after the skirmishes.
Like Hitler did in the 1930s.
Left v right street battles haven't even started yet.
The UN is sidelined but still powerful. (Like the league of nations)
The world powers are flexing and rearmament has started.
Some went too soon and have failed.(Russia)
Others have become strong through adversity. (Ukraine has the world's strongest army right now)
Ideology is polarised and frankly ridiculous.
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Nobody is learning.
I wait. And I learn.

>>514993955
>This reads like deep down, you support hard left politics
What did you take tonight lad? It's making you stupid.

>>514993965
>My alternative is to wait and see where we are after the skirmishes.
So you have no alternative but just sit on your ass and wait?

Blame everybody else for their choices, when you have none of your own.

Just rant away about your own ideology, with no direction and vote for nobody. You seem like a right purple-haired loser.

>>514989204
musk literally wants millions of indian h1bs. imagine thinking he support remigration

>>514993524
there you go:
>>514993599
precisely
if we are going with de-emphasising the academic in schools, then scholarly children in state schools are also going to need a way to get away from the grim, grey, working-class existence earmarked out for them, and away from the gormless bucket-crab fuckwits who would hold them back out of petty jealousy

we need FAR more social mobility than we have currently for Anderson's metalworking utopianism to not simply function as a means of keeping the working classes out of higher education
all it would do is prevent them from climbing the ladder

bringing back the 11+ would help—with those who don't pass going on to Anderson's Coal Mining School, or whatever bygone-century boomer fever dream he has in mind

>>514988465 (OP)
he's controlled opposition

>>514993965
>>514994048
You’re absolutely retarded. God help us with people like you in the electorate.

>My alternative is to wait and see
>The UN is sidelined
>Ukraine has the world's strongest army right now
>Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Nobody is learning.
>I wait. And I learn.

And you’re asking me what I took tonight?

Guess what…how old are you? 30, 40? If youve learned over that time, you never will, and the country is getting worse year on year. I’m not prepared to maintain the status quo like you’re hoping to, at best you’re happy with elections swinging between left leaning politicians. At worst you’re blatantly hard left. You can’t hide it. I’m not prepared to put up with it any longer.

Learning from history was particularly pathetic by the way. Does that not apply to British people and your support of Palestine? Your hate for working classes? Your middle class guilt?

>>514989896
Absolute fucking COPE, HOLY FUCK. He explicitly stated that he, and he alone, destroyed the BNP. Why would he do that when the BNP were on a fucking tear up and were gaining massive support and growing all the time? He is a fucking Rothschild London's Metals Exchange trader and his ancestors are from fucking (((Frankfurt)) do the fucking math idiot. His wives have all been foreign and his kids are German citizens. Even a Kraut anon on here didn't know this about Farages ancestry and kids. and yet thought, simply from Farages actions, that he was a foreign agent working against British interests.
If I can get hold of a gun before the election, Farage is getting fucking smoked, as he is the fucking cunt that will make it impossible to ever reverse our situation by putting everyone to sleep and having civic nationalism. You are fucking retarded if you can't see this. You are the fucking enemy.

Let me be clear.
My first actions should I ever get any power.
I would arrest everyone in the socialist worker hq and regional offices and shut them down.
I would stop government funding of ALL charitable organisations and all quangos.
I would end women's aid.
I would set up machine guns on the south coast and issue shoot to kill orders against small boat migration.
I would remove anyone who isn't white to the country of their choosing.
I would offer business loans to natives to take over those foreign run businesses at zero interest.
I would use the money saved to build an armament industry until we were bristling with guns and tech.
I would remove ALL sexual and social education programs and focus on actual useful studies.
I would clean graffiti nationwide and lock up anyone doing it harshly.
I would legislate to build quality housing in areas where house prices are high and demolish every hmo in the country.
I would then instruct the men I ruled over to lightly slap their wives, sisters and daughters until they realise that the men are back in control and they are subservient.
Then I would have a whisky.

>>514991305
Does Starmer look like he can hold Britain together? It'll be bankrupt within a year at this rate. He'd be lucky if he even gets more votes than Lib Dems, the current #3/#4 party.

>>514994714
>when the BNP were on a fucking tear up and were gaining massive support and growing all the time
>peaked at 1.9% of the vote in a General election
frankly, you're delusional

>>514994200
I've got 3 kids and run my own business. I'm not getting involved in the prole battles.
You think I'm going out fighting in the street? Like a commoner?
No.
I'll keep hoarding and waiting until there's a proper risk/reward.
Right now it's ALL risk for no reward.
I wait.

>>514994714
Enjoy waving your Antifascist and Free Palestine banners.

>>514994811
>My first actions should I ever get any power.
YOU NEVER WILL.
Your just going to sit at home and wait????

>"I'm not voting for anyone because . . . "

Fucking Walter Mitty.

>>514990406
The pensions system is the biggest welfare state scam - but he won't cut that, even though Lord Willets has a video on Youtube showing pensioners literally steal, though this ponzi scheme welfare system, £240k more than they paid in each - this figure is now over £300k each, effectively our entire national debt is from pensioners alone.

>>514995006
>I've got 3 kids and run my own business.
see>>514995067
>Fucking Walter Mitty.

>>514994603
>how old are you? 30, 40?
Add ten years to your outlier.
>I’m not prepared to put up with it any longer.
Good. You lay the groundwork for people like me.
Go raise flags, go fight in your locale.

>>514995067
>Walter Mitty.
He had a good job, a girl and an exciting life.
How's that going for you kiddo?
Everything you've said tonight only confirms that my strategy is correct and you don't have one.
YOU are the martyr that makes mine possible.
Keep being angry.

>>514994983
> You're delusional if you think a 10x increase from 2000 to 2010, going from 0.2% to 1.9%
That would win the election now with that growth rate which would have only got stronger as things have got worse.

>>514995157
>Good. You lay the groundwork for people like me.
can you stop saying the quiet part out loud, please—it assuages your ego I'm sure, but cui bono?
just let it play out and keep your mouth shut, like the smart man you are

>>514995099
You'll be a pensioner one day and you'll think differently.
The pension is fine.
It's the tens of billions per year on foreign nationals that's killing us.

>>514995067
> Enjoy waving your Antifascist and Free Palestine banners.
You are wildly mistaken. You are fucking traitor and cunt that is voting for a foreigner and a party run by a fucking paki. Reform are not a nationalist party, their appeal is purely to boomer neo-liberal civnats.

>>514995404
I'm offering him an out.
It's happening anyway.
His choice.

>>514989169
you look mixed

>>514995462
I'm sure your vote for the 'Tooting Popular Front'
will be useful.

By the way . . .you will NEVER be a woman.

>>514995602
That's a woman.

>>514995404
Say the quiet part out loud for a stupid burger like me.

>>514991305
>you'd rather have Starmer?
Please come back when you understand history.
As you're an American I think that might take a century.

>>514995428
Watch and learn, you fucking dumb piece of fucking shit, you fucking utter fucking moron. They are taking out more from the system each than the price of average houses. They are bankurpting Britain and France now, that is what this financial issue is directly related to, not unemployed chavs, its nearly all from the burden of old people and this criminally unjust ponzi welfare system they have rigged up, which fucking obviously, you fucking moron, isn't going to be around because our country is on the edge of financial ruin because of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuXzvjBYW8A&t

If you think I would ever become some fat lazy, idle retired p[ig living off others, you're projecting your shit genetics and weakness onto me. In every other period in history people worked until they died and had dignified lives, but this welfare system has created a vast entitled group of sociopaths that are selling their own nation out so they can be functional alcoholics watching TV for 18 hours a day until 90, propped up by modern medicine for no good fucking reason at the expense of the fertile. Look up the Demographic Transition Model you fucking stupid cunt MONEY GOING TOWARDS THE WORTHLESS FUCKING OLD CUNTS IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR LOWERING BIRTHRATES, THAT IS A FUCKING FACT.
Fucking kys.

>>514995608
>By the way . . .you will NEVER be a woman.
You're the one voting for Farage that supports gay rights you dumb fucking faggot. Trannies should be executed as moral deviants - Farage would never advocate this.

>>514995636
The current right is a comedic smokescreen full of useful idiots who challenge the current leftist system.
The street battles destined to break out will lead to the REAL right once this pussy right is put down.
Only then can the powerful left be challenged.
And it will be brutal and fast..
Farage, Putin, trump...
These people are idiots. Useful, but idiots.
Call me when you are ready to ethnically cleanse subcontinent's with nukes.
Until then? Your right is just fiddling while Rome burns.

>>514995764
>our country is on the edge of financial ruin because of them.
I had to fill my loft with 3 months of staple food for my family of 5 in 2008 because there was a REAL threat the cash machines would run out of money.
You don't know shit about economics.

>>514995382
it's irrelevant

they were optics poison, anon, the butt of a bad joke
completely mismanaged, no understanding of the media, no understanding of public relations
they were damaging to the cause
Farage is popular, and the media are struggling to smear him, and that's what matters to the proles over rhetoric or actual ideology

breaking the two-party buggering we're getting year-upon-year ought to be the goal at this point
so please, keep your extrapolatory fantasies of the past to yourself—it's moot; Griffin is dead, it's over—focus on what's real and present:
it's not just who most aligns with your views; it's about who stands the most realistic chance of breaking up the Labour-Conservative alliance come the election, whilst pushing the Overton Window rightwards so we can actually discuss the problem without being arrested
that would be a solid win
and you need to think pragmatically about this, because we're running out of time here

Farage is a duplicitous banker cunt, yes, but they're ALL duplicitous banker cunts, and you shouldn't ever /trust/ any politician; you vote only for the person with the most realistic chance in that moment of pushing your agenda forwards
no loyalty, no trust

Rupert Lowe isn't realistically going to win anything
Ben Habib isn't going to win anything

>>514988465 (OP)
There's no voting your way out of a rugged system. Have you guys learned nothing since Zion Don's first term?

>>514995764
75% of Somalian immigrants in Britain don't work.
Migrant Hotels costs Millions every week.
Prisons full of immigrants costing a shit ton of money every year.

It's not the immigrants fault, let's blame the boomers.

Pathetic.

>>514996031
Oh good, can I join in the civil war when that happens and be considered an honorary brit when victory is achieved? The states are beyond cooked, and I've always loved England. Breaks my heart what's become of your country.

>>514995764
>If you think I would ever become some fat lazy, idle retired p[ig living off others, you're projecting your shit genetics and weakness onto me. In every other period in history people worked until they died and had dignified lives, but this welfare system has created a vast entitled group of sociopaths that are selling their own nation out so they can be functional alcoholics watching TV for 18 hours a day until 90, propped up by modern medicine for no good fucking reason at the expense of the fertile. Look up the Demographic Transition Model you fucking stupid cunt MONEY GOING TOWARDS THE WORTHLESS FUCKING OLD CUNTS IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR LOWERING BIRTHRATES, THAT IS A FUCKING FACT.
>Fucking kys.
You're going. You're minimum wage. I hear you.
You'll make a great pawn just as people always have in your situation.
This is a game of chess lad.
You are not the king.

>>514996135
Holy shit you fucking dumb as shit if you think 2008 was bad. It is exponentially worse now, idiot. The government is close to going bankrupt. But thanks to cucks like you, you will demand the very people that took out more than they paid in, should be first in line to be saved in any reorganisation of the economy, i.e brutal austerity that is coming.

>>514996147
our politics are not quite the same as America's: there are no Diebold machines, and the boxes of unsigned ballots are coming from Imams, rather than merely being found in the back of a car at the last minute
I joke, but never make the mistake of applying your knowledge of America's politics to Britain—the landscape and circumstances are quite different
remember there are political factions here older than their country
older than the Rothschilds
older than Cromwell

>>514989882
Low-cut, greying hair, bulging biceps, strong jawline, preferably one eye but not required, calls everyone slightly younger than him “son”, straight back, calls the west “the Free World”

>>514996277
I was in Ireland in 2008 you dumb fuck.
It was touch and go until a last minute imf bailout.
Blame your granny all you want. Ireland didn't have the UK pension obligations and I still had to buy home defense weapons and stack food.
Have you ever actually seen real violence?
I have.
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.

>>514996142
Farage does an interview stating he doesn't care about the state of Britain after he dies because he won't be around to see it, and that deporting refugees is an impossibility, and that we can never go to war here with pisslam, then he lay low for a month and got some PR advice and came out guns blazing about deporting refugees. He has no intention of deporting them, nevermind the legal ones. Even the fact illegals are an issue is a distraction as the issue is do whites get replaced by 2060 with legal migration and their higher birth rates, or 2055 when illegals are also counted. Either way we get replaced.
You're a fucking joke. The guy is a joker, a modern day court jester leading the opposition into failure.
I am going to do everything I fucking can to make sure that cunt is killed before the election. Take this to the fucking bank, you're not going to get to install your banker as PM here.

>>514996633
No politician is going to do the needful.
It comes from the people or it doesn't happen.

>>514995404
It's Saturday night. None here will remember.
What's your plan?

>>514996156
If you support the welfare state you are by definition a communist that wants wealth redistribution, and for other peoples children to finance the retirement of pensioners that had fewer children on average. The migrant issue and pensions have always been tied as one issue. They were both set up within 100 days of each other in 1948. The excuse being we need more young to pay for this new ponzi scheme the state had created. Idiots like you probably think national Insurance is a big pot of cash the state is saving for you later on. Fucking moron. The British government is being killed by the welfare bill even if migrants didn't exist.

>>514996633
>I take what a politician says as proof of their beliefs
are you shitting me?
you must be young
did you not read what I wrote, you purity-spiralling idiot—he's simply the only viable alternative to LabTory come the election
you either vote for him, or you vote for them in one way or another

that's simply a limitation of first-past-the-post that we have to deal with, if we're able to be pragmatic about things
but you go on spouting-off about murder for the 77th time, as though you're not transparent, you traitorous bastard

>>514988465 (OP)
You mean Nigel "My greatest political accomplishment was destroying the BNP" Farage?
Nigel "Nobody has done as much as me to eradicate the far right in the UK" Farage?
Nigel "All of our candidates are vetted by Hope not Hate" Farage?
Nigel "I can't win if I alienate islam" Farage?
Nigel "Stop asking why I put a muslim in charge of the party you racists" Farage?
You want us to vote for that Nigel Farage?

>>514996917
oh, just have a little drink, and then head off to bed most likely

>>514996624
You're so fucking retarded. The funny thing about your idiotic comment is even in 2008 when banks were going under, it was pensioners, by the fact they didn't have to go to work, that were all the people in line first at the banks to get their money out. So even in 2008, which is much more minor than what is coming now (there is no China to bail out the West this time), it was the retired parasites that were the only winners, and the people that were hit hardest were GenX that got completely wiped out. The retired have never suffered hardship in their lives, the political system has pandered to them at every point - deindustrialisation itself was part of a plan to guarantee returned on pensions by exporting to cheaper locations for manufacturing, so even in the death of our industry it again goes back to the retired and their insatiable demands that they should life like feudal lords over the fertile age working white population.

>>514997085
and all of those things are great media soundbites, which stop the papers doing to him what they did to Enoch
you are taking a politician at their word, you daft bastard—why on Earth would be so stupid?
he's playing the long game, just as he did with Brexit

>>514997254
Either he's been lying for the last twenty years, in which case only a retard would trust him, or he's been telling the truth for the last twenty years, in which case only a retard would trust him.

Blows my mind that there are people in the UK that are still going to vote Labour and Conservative. It makes no sense. They're two sides of the same coin. Either don't vote, or vote something different, to vote for more of the same is unforgiveable

>>514996976
They are only viable because you want them to be, not because they are. You want the easy road where everyone goes back to sleep and we get ethnicly replaced by legal hindus and less the muslims that are less overtly jihadi, as opposed to welfare muslims.who will have their benefits cut and they might move elsewhere - and even that is just a hope. Hopefully they will leave but what if they don't? There is no political solution unless people are going for remigration of legal migrants.
You're the traitor, and so is Farage, and he will be dealt with as such.

>>514988465 (OP)
lol UK is over. Even "not our best" lithuanians who I hoped will never come back are coming back because it's unsafe to be living in UK. The only good that can come out of it is if our countries will take lessons from UK what capitalism and mass immigration does to your country.

>>514997185
>deindustrialisation itself was part of a plan to guarantee returned on pensions by exporting to cheaper locations for manufacturing
are you fucking retarded?
you don't think it had anything to do with the Kissinger/Nixon geoeconomic Cold War triangulation against the Soviet Union via the opening of China, with the U.S. using its Navy to protect China's trade routes and facilitate its industrial integration into the West to nudge them away from the Russians, with the side-effect of making British manufacturing WHOLLY uncompetitive?

...you think it was a *choice*... because of pensions?
anon, the UK had zero choice in the matter, pensions or no—it's moves on a much bigger chessboard

>>514997510
who's more viable come election time, then?
shut up or put up

>>514990897
>"Farage" is a French name and he is a descendant of French Huguenot immigrants to the UK
He definitely won't do shit then

>>514997814
You are clearly retarded if you are just ignoring the major issue of our time, the aging population, which itself is the cause of the migrant issue and collapsing birthrates, and the decline in money available for other things like a top tier navy. All roads lead to the pensions systems and the promises they have made for themselves which have to be honoured as long as they can be, and that day of reckoning is coming soon. Frances current financial troubles which have increased 30% in a year are from pensioners. In Germany they live like kings over an impoverished white work force that are taxed to death while their boomers come on holiday here in £200k motorhomes. All of the wealth is going to boomers. They are cannibalizing our economy and migrants are a minor part of it that distract people from where the money is going.
You are a total cuck that is nowhere near mentally prepared for what we have to do to migrants and pensioners. Notice, who are the people removing English flags at the moment? They're all pensioners, all boomers. They are a generation of traitors.

>>514997904
Civil war and political assassinations.

>>514998343
the fact you think what I said was somehow a pro-pension argument, rather than a simple refutation of your profoundly ignorant argument, shows you to be the retard and not I

>>514998505
>talks about assassination for the 77th time

>>514998534
There is zero ignorance on my behalf. The economy is falling apart now because of demographics, because it is a communist state redistributing wealth to the 2 most worthless creatures on earth, pensioners and their pet migrants, and in the end we will be bankrupt and have IMF conditionalities rape the fuck out of what is left of this economic carcass that boomers have fed off.
>>514998598
Listen faggot, you are not mentally prepared for what is coming if you think Farage is our solution. Farage isn't going to be around to co-opt the right into boomer civicnationalism and 2060 ethnic replacement, as opposed to 2055 ethnic replacement with the Tory/Labour option. Even Elon bought X to be a colour revolution platform, as it was created for that, and he doesn't want Farage so it won't happen. Even Trump is suspicious of Farage and hinted at this.

>>514988465 (OP)
He is probably in the list too.

>>514999234
>Elon bought X to be a colour revolution platform [...] and he doesn't want Farage
>Even [Zion Don] is suspicious of Farage
these are criticisms to your "mind"?
what a funny man you are

>>514988465 (OP)
Farage is a fucking snake

>>514999749
You civic nationalist cucks are going to get fucking crushed before the next election. Thankfully Britain will go bankrupt and we will force our racial theories on you cucks regardless of what you want. Farage isn't going to survive the breakdown of British society. We're at stage 1 of a civil war and you still haven't figured this out as you hope traditional politics can reverse a genocidal plan being waged against us, when even the politican you are voting for doesn't care about our ethnic displacement.

>>514988465 (OP)
We will? Starmer is up for election in 4 years and Farage is certain to win. Which means us meme lads will be in charge, KEK bless us. Unless you Ameribros think there's some way to pressure the King into calling an early election? I hear based Elon and Tommy Robinson are working on that. God Bless the Meme!

>>515000444
>he just made up his head that I'm a civic nationalist
>he thinks his imagination is reality
behold—a moron!

>>514988573
Stay in the EU, get migrants

Leave the EU, get even more migrants

>>515000649
If you vote for Farage, you're voting for an explicitly civic nationalist, pro-multi racial, multi-cultural and mulit-faith Britain, i.e exactly the same shit as the Tories just at a slower rate of replacement. You haven't got want it takes to fight for this country and I wouldn't expect you to as most Brit flag users on this site are absolute faggots, which you have consistently affirmed yourself as one. But it isn't in your hands as the economic situation is going to have people on the streets like in Argentina, and then it is about violence, not having fat useless old cunts go out and vote for the fake alternative Farage.

>>515000908
OK, you do know that politics isn't GMOD right? Even if Farage or Tommy Robison was a dictator, they can't just do whatever they want.

Deporting people takes time, money, resources , explanations to business leaders about whos going to fill those jobs and somewhere to deport them to.

Complaining that you won't vote for Reform just because Farage doesn't make promises that are blatant lies is, quite frankly, wrecking.

>>514988465 (OP)
Farage is a jackass conman. Guy said he would exit politics and never be heard from again btw if Brexit turned out badly. He's a more convincing liar than most politicians, but that's about it.