Thread 515047222

Did Rome fall because there were too many freed slaves?

>>515047222 (OP)
It fell because Christianity induced a cosmopolitan society that crumbled under the weight of its immigrants.

Galatians 3:28
>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus

>>515047222 (OP)
>>515047364

It fell because Jewish usury, even before Christianity was a thing Jews started using usury in the Roman empire

>>515047364
Christianity was still insignificant until Constantine even then still a minority you dumbfuck.

>>515047364
>Christ Jesus
Was this written by a gook or something? How am I supposed to take scripture seriously if it can't even get the nigga's name right?

They couldn't stop backstabbing eachother, everything the Turks didn't do to Diogenes Romanos, his own people did to him

>>515047453
This

>>515047481
And Rome fell soon after Constantine. Not a coincidence.

>>515047364
>Christianity induced
no, it was the product of kalergian cosmopolitanism, not what created it

>>515047481
Like jews are a minority in america today

>>515047539
It was already falling retard

>>515047453
Lmao, you wish.
You were nothing under romans.

>>515047453
true jew

>>515047502
These fucking retards will say "CHRISTIANITYYYY"

Like bruh, it's usuric methods of the Jews

>>515047597
Christians weren't ever in positions of power until constantine, false equivalency

>>515047364
>>515047539
What a pea-brained view on Roman history. Read a book or two.

>>515047222 (OP)
Rome fell for a lot of reasons and there is no 1 single thing that killed it off. Some high level things that killed off Rome were
>Massive spreading of territories and not enough power to mantain them, IE spread to thin
>Heavy reliance on foreign soldiers to fill the ranks of their army.
>Massive over spending and coffers running dry
>A massive division in culture in both religion and ways of life, not just a "muh christianity"
>A series of very shitty emperors and rulers that were just in it for the fame and power
Thats just a few off the riff, but its a lot of things all happening at once that caused it.

>>515047453
Shut up kike

>>515047643
Please refer to the book history of central banking and the enslavement of mankind


But you probably will shout Christianity like a fucking retard

>>515047649
I know it's true

>>515047222 (OP)
Rome fell because of its own corruption and their chicanery with debasement.

>>515047222 (OP)
No such thing as too many freed slaves, only too many slave owners.

>>515047222 (OP)
Rome started falling in 200 AD. It just took a while to fully die off.

>>515047222 (OP)
not really. embracing Christianity weakened it, but there were a lot of other reasons.

>>515047786
Nah, they fell apart because they spread their empire too wide.
You wish it was your doing but it's not. You almost got extinct under roman rule, pity they didn't finish the job.

>>515047453
corrupt emperors would still keep a few kikes protected and in high positions of power like we see today minus the zionist christian aspect. Many kikes were doctors for royalty

>>515047482
they never tell you what "christ" is but it's not even a name. it means some kind of state of being lol. they literally just made this shit up and ripped off most of it because there is only one truth.

>>515047222 (OP)
Too many subhuman races from africa

>>515047222 (OP)
no it fell because the elites turned into a bunch of weak decadent fucks

>>515047222 (OP)
No. Rome fell due to being too large to maintain. Rome needed to abandon more exterior provinces and focus on interior defense but was unwilling to do so.

>>515047941
>>515047941
>Nah, they fell apart because they spread their empire too wide

Bruh ceaser literally fought against usury And all the Jews that lended money to other Romans killed him

>You wish it was your doing but it's not. You almost got extinct under roman rule, pity they didn't finish the job.

I wish Hadrian would've finished the fucking job

>>515047949
And I'm betting my lost foreskin they killed a few gentiles

Also did you know everytime Romans conquered celts,Jews came with them and enslaved the celts

>>515047222 (OP)
>Considering it of extreme importance to preserve the Roman people pure, and untainted with a mixture of foreign or servile blood, he not only bestowed the freedom of the city with a sparing hand, but laid some restriction upon the practice of manumitting slaves. When Tiberius interceded with him for the freedom of Rome in behalf of a Greek client of his, he wrote to him for answer, “I shall not grant it, unless he comes himself, and satisfies me that he has just grounds for the application.” And when Livia begged the freedom of the city for a tributary Gaul, he refused it, but offered to release him from payment of taxes, saying, “I shall sooner suffer some loss in my exchequer, than that the citizenship of Rome be rendered too common.”

>>515047222 (OP)
communication speed and travel time capped their expansion
once they no longer expanded everythin became about distribution fights

young male soldiers got ever more diminishing rewards

>>515047364
Rome was cosmopolitan long before Jesus, you unbearably stupid illiterate.

>>515047996
>no it fell because the elites turned into a bunch of weak decadent fucks
not just the elites
The entire population
To blame the elites for an entire nation weakness is naive

>>515047222 (OP)
It fell because prosperity begets decadence. The moral fabric that built Rome naturally faded. Men forgot their obligation to the state, women stopped having children, then Christianity rose from the cosmopolitan and dregs of society until Constantine thought he could reempower the empire by making it the official religion of the state. It's incredible that it lasted so long really.

>>515048187
See, that is kind of my point.
I assume most Roman slaves were not ethnically Roman. So when freed, vast numbers of non-Roman people with non-Roman behaviors and beliefs flooded the population. The society crumbled, as crime increased, order went to chaos, and people could not even ride public chariots anymore without fear of getting stabbed.

>>515047958
Christ is a title, like Buddha. The thing is Muslims said yea Jesus was important but not the most important, Christians said yea he's christ but there can only be one and only one and no one else can have christ consciousness and the jews...well we know what they did to Christ.

>>515048550
>The moral fabric that built Rome naturally faded.
this
200BC romans would do anything to be able to fight for rome and die in droves for the glory of rome
200AC romans would pay any money to some barbarians to avoid a fight

>>515047958
The word "christ" is derived from the ancient greek word "christos" which means savior or anointed one.

>>515048288
skilled motivated young men expand empire
expanding empire can pay young men
expanding empire hits limits and stagnates
stagnating empire can longer reward young men
rational unmotivated men no longer defend empire
empire falls

>>515047222 (OP)
It was ran by bureaucracy, rich families, and suckered citizens.

>>515047453
Well guess why

I wish I was an emperor back then
I’d have been a force for good

>>515048800
it just means anointed and it's a semantic borrowing of messiah

>>515049074
We're talking about before Christianity...

>>515047222 (OP)
Rome was destroyed by the fundamentalist movement that is now called Christianity, but it was a process that was underway even in the Bronze Age. Judaism and Christianity are not derived from Semitic religion but rather are Indo-European pirate cults descended from the tradition of Heracles who stole the poison pharmakon technology pioneered by goddess cults in order to create a black market controlled by men. The emergence of Judeo-Christianity is a late event defined by pirates invading Palestine and establishing a fundamentalist regime in the 3rd century BCE based on the fictional history of the biblical texts which first appear in the 4th.

The real core of the Judeo-Christian cult is slavery and child trafficking, as demonstrated by the culture hero Abraham whose wife gives him a slave to use as a breeder while she’s infertile. Jesus himself is showing the true nature of the cult as he abducts an entire posse of boys, the oldest of whom is still below taxable age and the youngest of whom doesn’t reach above Jesus chest while sitting in his lap during the agape feast known as the last supper. The last supper was an orgy Jesus had with the boys he was turning into eunuchs (Matthew 19:12 is literal) so that they could be fishers of men, boy prostitutes used as substitutes for teenage girls in sex and drug rituals. The Romans instantly recognized what Jesus was, which is why he goes from arrest to crucifixion so rapidly, and he’s executed alongside two other lestai. Most bibles will translate lestai as robbers but the word has a long tradition of being used to denote the terrifying pirate gangs that roamed the ancient world. Caesar was abducted by some lestai who were going to sell him off, a common practice for lestai like Jesus, but he outplayed them and had them all crucified because that’s the established method of execution for human traffickers.


Mark 14:51-52
Jesus arrested in a public park at 4am with a naked boy

>>515048560
sort of, yes, Romans sadly had an overall pretty liberal policy in turning slaves into citizens compared to Greek city states so by the time the principate ends the population of most cities is a largely oriental cosmopolitan mess with hardly any deep reasons to give a shit, something like the dominate's political asset would've appeared utterly unthinkably servile to old Romans and very typical of oriental populations

Globohomo 1.0 with Cybele and Yeshua boogaloo.

>>515047222 (OP)
I think it's cause Romans became disgusted with it and stopped caring.

>>515047222 (OP)
No. Rome fell because jews (Severans) seized power

>>515047222 (OP)
Rome fell because it was old and weak. The Roman Catholic Church is immortal. However.

>>515050599
Rome fell in 494 BC.
When they gave the plebs a tribuneship.

Because shitalian bamboozle backfired.

Bada Bing Bada Boom, the rest is history

>>515047222 (OP)
It fell because Julius was a pussey bitch. Hail Sulla!

>>515050678
Yeah, vatican 2 seems to contradict your theory.

>>515050687
Technically
But technically, by that time Rome hadn't even been the capital for two centuries
Realistically, Rome's decline started with the (((Severan dynasty)))

>>515048550
>obligation to the (((state)))
Govt is not my friend, good goy bootlicker.

>>515050884
Contradict what?, and what's my theory?

>>515047364
Rome fell because exponential growth on a finite plane is impossible, it couldn't expand its food supply at the same rate of growth or better. This led to the collapse of the expected improvement of quality of life that was promised, then the usury trick of inflation on the coin, then the people stopped having faith in the false promises of the politicians during the second greatest time of hedonism the world has ever known. We're repeating this on s global scale now, but with fuel instead of merely grain.

>>515050915
every single time

>>515050968
Nevermind, you just wouldn't get it.

>>515050915
I said 494 BC.
Not AD.

Rome fell in 494 before the jew.

>>515051083
Read it wrong. Thought you meant 410AD
>Rome fell when it became a Republic
now that's retarded

>>515047222 (OP)
It fell because they ran out of gold to pay people so they stopped working.

>>515047222 (OP)
>fate of empires

>>515051057
The ultimate good is like water.
Water benefits all things without competing with them.
It stays at places where all people disdain

>>515047222 (OP)
>self destruct

>>515051148
Rome didnt become a republic in 494BC.

Rome created the tribune of plebs in 494BC.

>>515047364
It was already forming before Christianity. The religion removed much of the brutality and religious tolerance part that was required for it to function under that system. Only Constantine was able to do it. But he remained culturally pagan all his life.

>>515049178
>>515048800
Christos is a term that existed long term Jesus and is derived from Bronze Age Greek. In Homer, Odysseus is introduced as looking for plants he can harvest in order to christ his arrows with poison. Christing arrows with poison is one of the core motifs that sets the reality of the ancient world in order. The reason that eos is both arrow and poison, that Artemis is both the arrow-pourer and the poison-pourer, is that poisoned arrows were one of the major technologies of the Bronze Age. Heracles does the same thing when he overcomes the hydra and christs his arrows with the venom of a many headed snake monster. What this really describes is his murder of a guardian of technology and the theft of an entire tool kit of poisons, many being derived from snake venom.
The refinement of poison into a useful drug precipitated the use of christing to mean applying a drug to one’s body, the same as one smears it on an arrow. It’s a ubiquitous terminology that is pervasive in the Greek medical literature as well as in cult texts. There are even practices of christing clothing, which is why it’s such a big deal in the biblical texts when someone touches a prophet’s robe, why a woman is made to see when she touches Jesus’ cloak.

Jesus Christ is a combination of two Greek cult titles that effectively means “drug-smeared drug-user”
The entire idea of “anointing” is bullshit, no one was just rubbing on smelly oil and thinking it meant some special status. Ancient people weren’t fucking stupid. You become special when you rub the drug cream into your eyes and see the invisible. It’s a neurotoxin so you might go blind with overuse, and it might dry into a scaly mess that you have to wash off at a ritual bath, like a certain Paul of Tarsus.

>>515047222 (OP)
Too many slaves in general, free or bond. It's really similar to modern times. The class of nobleman (the wealthy) became addicted to slave labor and stopped honoring the social contract because it was cutting into profits. Think of them as ancient boomers. (Things were better in MY day, these kids don't wanna work no more, muh monarchy)

Then Caesar came, huge civil war, then Augustus picked up where Caesar left off and set things right for a couple hundred years and the same problems popped back up again and destroyed the empire next time around.

>>515051250
A decade or so after the founding of the republic
Regardless, your position is retarded

>>515051250
>around 509BC
>484BC
pretty close i'd say

>>515047222 (OP)
Fuck no. The exact opposite. While there are a lot of factors. And I mean. A LOT. Slaves devalued the labor pool creating massive wealth disparity between the average roman and the patricians who ran shit.
A gap that continued to widen and make gangs and corruption more popular because it would be the only way to get ahead.

>>515051510
Exactly. Rome became a nigger state because of the tribune of plebs.

Marc Anthony being the biggest nigger of them all.

>>515047481
And? He's still entirely correct. They flooded themselves with migrants and the genetic capital of Rome effectively flushed itself down the toilet.

Christianity is a globalist religion and worships diversity, you cannot in any way, shape, or form, argue that it isn't. That's what it's been since its inception. Even Hitler and the Nazi's accepted this in spite of embracing Christianity. They knew they had to reshape the religion to be more European and less semitic.

The reality is that a religion which is not ETHNOCENTRIC is a religion that will only become a threat to your nation and people. Prima facie, de jure, and de facto your religion MUST be ethnocentric to be good for your people. Only when Christianity becomes white-ethnocentric can it be a good religion for White people.

That is almost impossible for christians to accept, and hence why christianity continues to be at the forefront of white replacement and genocide, alongside jewish and muslim allies.

>>515051434
no need for such headcanon, it's literally a regularly derived adjective from the verb χρίω meaning to anoint something, it's not particularly attested as adjective until christianity

>>515051199
in all seriousness though. Rome fell in 1453. that's a lot longer than 250 years
>>515051230
>self destruct
by letting jews gain power

>>515047222 (OP)
>christianity
Before christianity Rome worshiped SUCCESS AND MIGHT and that's why Rome survived for thousands of years.
After christianity they worshiped WEAKNESS AND FORGIVENESS and then fell as their enemies walked all over them and stole their hard-won shit with ease as they cowered.
>tl;dr
jews encourage weakness

>>515051681
>verb χρίω meaning to anoint something

Chrio means to paint. Not annoint you italiota cristianota nigger.

The word chroma [colour] is derived from it.

Go sit down.
Christos means the painted one. Nothing to do with ointments.

>>515051718
>Rome fell in 1453

Said every byzantinist troon ever.

>>515051653
The plebeian tribune was the only check on the power of senators and equites. The Roman Republic was a near perfect system for Aryans, which is why it btfo all the known world

>>515051681
“Anointing” is the headcanon, in the medical literature it’s used all the time in reference to applying drug creams, drug enemas, and even drugged drinks. “Anointing” is a fake terminology created by Christian revisionists to hide the fact that their tradition is a pedophilic drug and sex cult.

>>515051199
This list is cherry picked bullshit and many of the empires within even this list lasted longer than 250 years.

It was created by a jew purposefully trying to fit data to his theory, and then parroted by retards like you who gobble that shit up without any critical thinking. There are dozens of empires not even on that list because they didn't fit the shape the author was going for.

It is THIS easy to influence gullible morons.

>>515051795
ὅδ' ὁ βάρβαρος πεῖραν λαμβάνει τοῦ μ' Ἑλληνικὴν γλῶτταν διδάσκειν, ἁἁἁἁ

>>515047222 (OP)
It fell because of Christianity. Niggas figured that out in the 18th century.

>>515047453
usury, inflation

>>515051893
>The Roman Republic was a near perfect system for Aryans, which is why it btfo all the known world

The Roman plebs were italian aborigines. Not Indo Europeans.

When the pleb overpowered the patrician thats when Rome fell.

>>515051655
checked. good post but the spacing format is fedora-coded

>>515051928
please explain Homer to me dear amerimutt

>>515048091
>Also did you know everytime Romans conquered celts,Jews came with them and enslaved the celts


Is this how they plan to do it this time again in the west, with immigration?

>>515047660
yes

>>515047222 (OP)
>>515047729
Rome destroyed itself throughout its own decadents and corruption.The Greeks became nothing more than a bunch of homosexuals and effeminate men lusting away in their bath houses while the Romans armed to destroy them. THEN the powerful Romans became a bunch of ancient liberals too limp-wristed to join the military and hold the Roman empire together. So they ended up hiring "refugees" as armies and mercenaries in the form of barbarian Germanics.

Societies decay because they all go through entropy. It's an endless cycle. The white empire is over because whites are too neutered not because of Christianity but with their pleasures in money, drugs, video games, pornography, materialism, creature comforts, MGTOW etc.

>. . . with the gradual decline of discipline, morals slid, and then more and more collapsed, and finally began to plunge, which has brought us to our present pass, when we can endure neither of vices nor their cures.
>-Livy

>“The adventures of deceived husbands, adulteries and amorous intrigues formed the staple of the plots. Virtue was made a mock of, ... everything sacred and worthy of veneration was dragged in the mire. In obscenity, ... in impure speeches and exhibitions which outraged the sense of shame, these spectacles exceeded all besides. Ballet dancers threw away their dresses and danced half naked, and even wholly naked, on the stage. Art was left out of account, every thing was designed for mere sensual gratification.”—The Conflict of Christianity with Heathenism, by Gerhard Uhlhorn, p. 120.

>“If we were asked what were the symptoms of [Rome’s] moral decay, we should answer: the selfishness of classes; the accumulation of wealth, ... the love of gold and the passion for luxury ... These were moral diseases, which could hardly be cured by any government.” - Outlines of Roman History, William Morey

Rome destroyed itself.

>>515047222 (OP)
Probably Jews then too

>>515051949
No response. No argument.
Dig yourself a large grave italiota mafioso scum.

And fuck padre pio.

>>515047222 (OP)
>It fell because Christianity induced a cosmopolitan society that crumbled under the weight of its immigrants.
>Galatians 3:28
>>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus
That story sounds so familiar. I can't quite put my finger on it though.

>>515052059
Shut the fuck up about the spacing, you retarded tryhard newfag.

Reddit spacing doesn't fucking exist you idiot. I created things called PARAGRAPHS and if you're seeing them as single line entries it's because your screen has a different resolution than mine, you stupid dumbfuck you don't even know how computers work. Fuck you.

>>515052046
Inflation and deflation

>>515047482
Christ is a title, not his last name, nigger.

>>515052101
Looks like it

>>515052144
Ty

>>515052233
ἐπίκουρός μοι ἔστω >>515052099 οὐ δύναμαι τὰ τοῦ θειοῦ ποιητοῦ ξυνεῖναι ὠγαθέ

This is all fake and gay. It fell because all its institutions got corrupted and rotted to shit. Mentally untable emperors spent all the money on retarded pet projects.
Retrospectively, you can see that it started falling when the republic died, just took a very long time.

>>515052057
>The Roman plebs were italian aborigines. Not Indo Europeans.
Wrong. The Italic people of Latium were definitely Indo-European
You're thinking of Etruscans, maybe.

>>515052497
I am good. You can run circles with quotes.

Chrio - chroma

To paint. Not annoint. No reference to ointments, oils or fat.

>>515052267
you're welcome

>>515052663
>The Italic people of Latium were definitely Indo-European

No.
Much like India the Italian aborigine far outnumbered the patricians.

Hence why pleb comes from the same root as plural.

Because the plebs were many.

>>515052719
please explain this mysterious line by Homer, apparently after washing Hector's body the female servants "painted" him with olive oil

what a fucking clown you are

>>515047222 (OP)
It fell for the same reasons the US/ west is falling , invaders and government spending / inflation
Jews know their history

>>515052046
Rome was an economic bubble

>>515052719
oh and also, dear internet linguist, explain to me how you get an ω in χρῶμα from a verb that has root in iota

>>515052851
Yes nigger.

Did you know Leonardo painted with oil nigger?

Did you know almost all forms of ancient paints were made with oils and fat nigger.

Including egg fat during the renaissance nigger.

Throw yourself down the Tarpeian rock.

>>515052268
Haha
Own it Jew
Jew Usury has destroyed civilizations for millennia

>>515053039
HAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
damn man, they just wash him, and then painted Hector with oil based painting before giving him back to Priam, because of course it's what Greeks did

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>515052810
>Much like India the Italian aborigine far outnumbered the patricians.
You're pulling shit out of your ass. The plebeians of the Roman Republic were the original inhabitants of Latium and overwhelmingly Italic speakers, i.e. Indo-Europeans
>Hence why pleb comes from the same root as plural.
Yes, it derives from multitude. This in now way supports your retarded position, for which you haven't provided a single source or even a compelling argument, despite it contradicting all we know of early Rome

>>515053122
>they just wash him, and then painted Hector with oil based painting before giving him back

Yes you dumb nigger. Bodies were perfumed and cosmeticized post-mortis.

When you put cosmetics on a dead man are annointing or painting you dumb fuck?

>>515053186
On this basis, the thesis of anti-Etruscan Rome has the right to appear among the hypotheses which can best lead to a suggestive reconstruction of the inner, spiritual side of Roman history. [This history appears as everything but linear]. This history [“Rome” instead of “This history”] expresses a new principle [embodies – we could say – a revolutionary force], which, to assert itself, had to gradually eradicate an antithetical civilisation. The story of the Monarchic period is that of a seesawing struggle between warlike Roman aristocracy and the hegemonistic attempts of Etruscan and sacerdotal elements or similar forces. Externally destroyed, the Etruscan element crept into the inner life of Rome.[Basically, it is Etruria which is at work behind the Sybilline Books which are responsible for the most serious alterations of Roman spirituality.] Basically, it is a type of Etruscan priest who, in the moment of panic of the punic wars, opens the doors of Rome to the first exotic [Asian] cult, [characteristically topped by a feminine figure] : the cult of Cybele. [Also Etruscans are the Tarquins, significantly connected with feminine figures and themselves the anti-aristocratic partisans of the plebs]. Also Etruscans are the Aruspices who, out of hatred for Rome, want the statue of Horace Cochlite to be buried ; but when it is, on the contrary, placed in the highest honor, fortunate events follow for Rome, contrary to the predictions of the Aruspices, who, accused of treason, confess their malign intent and are executed. More examples could be adduced, which lead us to think that the heterogeneous and hostile anti-Aryan element weakened the true Roman civilisation more than it strengthened it.

>>515053248
I get that you are at least half zambo but the verb for smearing something with something else is "anoint", not "paint"
you also haven't explained >>515052970
or go on, explain pic related, you fucking clown, do you also "paint" arrows with poison?

>>515053416
The strong pre-Aryan, Aegean-Pelasgic, and partially “Atlantic” component, which can be detected from an ethnic and philological view in these populations that Rome encountered in Italy, still remains a fact to be reckoned with; the relationship between these populations and the original Roman nucleus was similar to that which occurred in Greece between the Pelasgian stocks on the one hand and the Achaean and Doric stocks on the other. According to a tradition, after being scattered, the Pelasgians often became slaves of other people; in Lucania and in Brutium they formed the majority of the Bruttians, who were subjugated by the Sabellians and by the Samnites. Interestingly enough, these Bruttians sided with the Chartaginenses in their struggle against Rome in one of the most important episodes in the conflict between North and South; following their defeat, the Bruttians were eventually sold into slavery. Just as in India the aristocracy of the ārya stood before the servile caste like a dominating stock stands before an aboriginal stock, in the same way in the Roman opposition between patricians and plebeians we may see an analogous phenomenon and thus consider the plebeians as the “Pelasgians of Rome.” The evidence suggests that the plebeians in Rome were inspired by the maternal, feminine, and material principle, while the patriciate derived its superior dignity from the paternal right. The plebs succeeded in becoming part of the state and even participating in the ius Quiritium, but never in the political and juridical institutions connected to the superior chrism of the patricians (the reader will recall the saying patrem ciere posse in reference to divine ancestors, the so-called divi parentes, who were the prerogative of the patriciate and not of the plebs, which instead was considered to be made up of the “children of the Earth”).

>>515053416
>Evola
Lmao. Ok we're done

>>515053426
This christkike is as dumb as they come.

Chrisein = Untare

Get the fuck out this thread italiota schiavo latifundiario.

>>515053552
Thus, Rome departed from the background of the Italic populations of its origins that were still connected to the spirit of the ancient Southern civilizations, thereby manifesting a new influence that can hardly be traced to its background.

>>515047222 (OP)
Corrupt leadership was their undoing. Just like USSR and the USA (soon)

>>515053622
>me, the biggest christkike slaughterer on /pol/, called a christkike by a clown pretending to know the slightest about Homeric Greek
here, I'll even help your zambo monkey ass with a bilingual Greek-Latin dictionary
P.S "untare" isn't a Latin verb, clown

>>515053796
Ungere nigger.

>>515050940
A state is an organization of citizens forming a government you dumb nigger.

>>515052861
And the cause of that is over expansionism.

Seems trying to conquer the world doesnt even work when you do it step by step, little by little spanning into several generations.

It's just, simply impossible.

>>515053893
you are almost there Sambo, shall we check what Latin ungere translate to english now?

>>515047222 (OP)
The three I's:
1. Immigration
2. Interest Rates
3. Income Taxes

>>515054114
The verb annoint came in to English in the XIIIth century.
From a latin vernacular.

How does this prove anything?

>>515053622
Ok satan

>>515054206
>mistakes the meaning with the origin of the word
hello, lil Sambo you there? the dictionary tells you what the word means TODAY

There has to be historical precedent for a nation or empire to import a slave class from foreign lands, and then find themselves overwhelmed with the descendants of that slave class doing slave class things.

>>515054280
ἀλείφω

>>515054206
Maybe it just means, annoying, cuz ur fucking annoyting

>>515047222 (OP)
it fell because invasion just after a plague and civil war, just like east Rome did
and it survived throught the Papacy just like the east survived through the Patriarchy which is why kikes hate and want to destroy both, not only because of Jesus but because they keep Rome alive

>>515047222 (OP)
Bc they were a corrupt degenerate shithole where emperors banged their mothers and sisters fucked eachother in the ass and made their horses senators while praetorians that were suppose to protect them would chop their heads and replaced them with the highest bidder. Christianity brought hope and salvation to a dying society and enabled them to live all the way to 1453 AD.

>>515054640
>and it survived throught the Papacy

Byzantinist christovermin argument ad nauseam.

The Jews actually saved muh Rome.
Kys.

>>515054689
>Christianity brought hope and salvation to a dying society and enabled them to live all the way to 1453 AD.

Second gypsy with the nonsense.

>>515054772
what language are Catholic rites held in ?

>>515054862
Wow Snoop Dogg raps in English.
This means Beowulf was a real nigga.

Kys.

>>515047364
Cosmopolitan chicanery beset mass adapting Christianity to deal with the chaos, nigger.

>>515054772
>nonsense
Read a book or two subhuman moor rapebaby.

>>515047222 (OP)
Jewish tales.

>>515054907
it means that muhammed was as subhuman as jews are

>>515055022
I read Juvenal gypsy nigger.
Something which your nigger balkaner life can never do.

Muh kike saviour saved muh rome.

Kill yourself, your whole gypsy clan and your byzantine kike cult.

>>515055093
Death to the byzantine sanhedrin.
How about that gyppo?

>>515047222 (OP)
I heard it was because of pornography

>>515047364
>>515047453
Both correct. All the first christians were jews.

>>515055331
With Marie and YHW acting?

>>515054907
Neither a worldwide 1 to 2 billion members religious institution, retard. Eastern Roman Empire fell in 1453 to muslim ottoman hordes thanks partly to westerner catholics backstabbing from the 4th crusade throughout the persian wars and finally during ottoman wars you portuguese dumbfuck cryptokike.

>>515055538
Christgolems are many. Their qualities zero.

Bohemond of Taranto did nothing wrong.
The oriental harlot was prostrated.

>>515055477
Probably yeah

Rome fell because grain imports from Egypt meant life as a farmer was miserable. The result of this policy meant roman citizens no longer had any interest in signing up into the legions. As the big pay off for service to the legion in addition to wages was fertile land to settle and farm. Which in turn meant that the state had to rely on more and more foreign mercenaries, who could be paid in gold or worse given land to settle which made it even less sustainable.

In the end no one was loyal to or had any ties to Rome, especially as leaders of these foreign mercenaries would frequently rise to top positions within the roman state.

Everyone knows the Goths sacked rome, what many do not is that they had served as rome's soldiers for decades before they did.

It fell because any civilization that's based on a centralized metropolis will eventually fall due to the fact that it's fake and not adapted to human nature which thrives in small tribes connected to nature.

Life in a city is basically as fake as it can get, you just perform a meme work to afford fake money printed by jews via usury so you can afford fake food full of gmos and pesticides, then you live cramped with strangers in a building, you commute to work and see more people in one day than your tribal ancestors saw in their whole life, life as a city dweller is basically an illusion that works well until it doesn't, then there is a revolution which brings up another civilization then rinse and repeat because humans are so retarded to break this vicious cycle of civilization.

>>515055165
>I read Juvenal gypsy nigger.
And understood nothing of it.
>Something which your nigger balkaner life can never do.
We do way better than that.
>Muh kike saviour saved muh rome.
God Incarnate and YES HE DID
Cope and seethe!
>Kill yourself, your whole gypsy clan and your byzantine kike cult.
We're immortals thanks to our Lord Jesus Christ, God Incarnate but what can a midwit
like you know? No wonder you call Eastern Romans byzantines and mix up greeks and kikes even though you portucucks are swarthier even than us.

>>515056071
Seethe, dilate and seethe some more you byzantinist gyppo.

>>515055699
rome cent it's citizens out to fight while they imported foreigner slaves that didn't have the same values. then they were freed from slavery and becamse citizens. eventually it simply overwhelmed the base roman who was no longer having children at the same rate.

sound vaguely familiar?

>>515055688
Ave Roma!
We will name our intergalactic ships after J V P I T E R since all of those circumised souls will die out.

Shekelgoober und Wodkan were stage 0.

>>515055262
>Death to the byzantine sanhedrin.
>How about that gyppo?
You're just an impotent incel seething at something you will probably never understand or experience as you are too stupid to grasp. Orthodox don't have sahendrins , we Have Holy Synod and the word byzantine is just a western retarded scholar invention to deny the Roman character of the Eastern Empire.
Orthodoxy is Life and one day we will come to your shitty shoreline like basically everybody but unlike them we'll make you live.

>>515056527
We will see about that gyppo.
Once your rabbis are lying dead and your kike idol turned to mush.

>>515055665
>Christgolems are many. Their qualities zero.
Says who? An arrogant shithead like you? Then the contrary must be true.
>Bohemond of Taranto did nothing wrong.
Yeah he did. He was a lying filthy backstabber just like you.
>The oriental harlot was prostrated
Your mother was prostrated?
Makes sense.
The Eastern Romans put those schismatics on the run, proof that God was with them, but their vile treason echoed through the centuries weakening the Empire leading to its demise at the hands of your beloved oriental muslims like your prostrated harlot of a mother.

>>515057177
>The Eastern Romans put those schismatics on the run

Kommenos really had the crusaders quaking.

Gyppo-byzantine civilization.
Kys.

>>515056159
I am not the one seething moor rapebaby. You are!
Keep coping!
Orthodox Church is The One True Church of God Incarnate Lord Allmighty Christ !

>>515047222 (OP)
it s because roman men weren t fucking their women
instead of racially replacing new conquered territories they sent a couple garrisons to pacify the population and in a couple of years the conquered realized that life was more prosperous under roman rule and behaved
in the end the patrician families slowly disappeared and rome stopped being ruled by people born in italy, then by descendants of patricians (or plebs) altogether and became a multiethnic empire and italy became less important then gaul or the eastern provinces, if you were governor of some eastern province you were basically going to become the next emperor

>>515057373
>Orthodox Church is

An impotent whore. Whose rabbis got impaled by commie kommissars.

>>515056527
>the Roman character of the Eastern Empire
what part of it is so oh Roman, the oriental totalitarian kingship reigning over an oriental population? the koine popular babble? the jew worship? giving up Rome itself barely even into the early middle ages?

>>515047729
The main reason for the fall of Rome was the natality. Roman's were having fewer and fewer children, certain forms of contraceptives became widely used. Even in the time of Augustus he was talking about the issue of not enough children especially amongst the patricians, giving medals and wreaths to mothers with a lot of kids.
By the time of the falling apart the empire was severely depopulated, and the population concentrated in the regional centers. The biggest source of new labor and soldiers were migrants which Rome could still assimilate with its high standard of living, but as that started to fade under the burden of taxes they simply fell apart. There was no one left to defend Rome.

>>515047222 (OP)
Too many slave revolts + Attila the Hun + German invasions.

>>515047222 (OP)
It feel because theodosian signed a crippling truce deal with goths in 382 ad and the Roman negotiators were franks. Never trust Germans.

>>515057779
fell.
Theodosian the “Great” was the worst Roman emperor.

>>515056663
>We will see about that gyppo.
We sure will moor!
>Once your rabbis are lying dead and your kike idol turned to mush.
Those are Holy Priests of God Almighty Lord Incarnate Resurected and Ascended and thanks to Him they will do so too and be with Him in His Kingdom like many Holy Martyrs before them while you will be left outside to cry and lament.
The only idol is your petty arrogance to whom you bow and let yourself be consumed by Chaim.

>>515057843
>Those are Holy Priests

Sanhedrim and Kohenim we used to call them.

Now we call them cygani.

>>515050978
Rome would have had no issues with food if the empire was not divided by the patricians with the average Roman getting almost nothing. The Emperors later on centralized both commerce and food production to such an extent, the average Roman could do nothing more then get his daily rations and fuck around

>>515057364
>Kommenos really had the crusaders quaking.
So he did. Does that bother you?
>Gyppo-byzantine civilization.
Superior to yours
>Kys.
Can't do that!
Seethe more moorish sephardic cryptokike rapebaby!

>>515047222 (OP)
rome fell because of miscegenation, just like egypt
>/thread
>/nigger
>/fuck

>>515047364
>Christian induced
kys nigger
There were literal jeets, egyptians, mudslimes, etc
Christians were still persecuted up until Constantine you absolute dumb cunt history revisionist

>>515058310
>Can't do that!

Why little gyppo? You scared of the Gehenna?

>>515058445
Mudslimes in 476 AD?
You mean sandniggers?

Jeebus was a sandnigger.

>>515051655
he's not correct at all rajwinderdeep
you have no argument and everything you say is based on emotion
show me the demographic's and how Christians (who were majority Greek, Hebrew and small minority romans) destroyed Rome. Oh wait, you can't because you're talking out of your asshole hardon hatred of the Lord
go back to the shitting streets and worshipping waheguru you fucking demon

>>515058513
>spic talmbout niggers
more power to you

>>515058616
>how Christians (who were majority Greek, Hebrew and small minority romans) destroyed Rome

We can start with the story of Hypatia and Kyrillos.

>>515058616
They allowed Frankish Christians into military positions like what happened here. After that event the Roman Empire literally collapsed. They couldn’t have pulled through but other Germanic Christians backstabbed in the empire. >>515057779
God I’m so thankful the Germanic race is finally being flushed down the toilet.

>>515057508
>>Orthodox Church is
The One True Church of God Incarnate Lord Allmighty Christ !
>An impotent whore.
That's your mother given how you are her mirror.
>Whose rabbis
We don't have that kike
>got impaled by commie kommissars.
They were kikes just like you and did far worse than that to our Russian sister Church as they did to our Romanian Church and Bulgarian Church and yet they could not prevailed. And all those that were that received Martyrdom for Christ are now in Heaven by His side and rejoice with him while the kike komissars are in hell being tormented for all eternity prolly like you will if you keep it like this.

>>515047222 (OP)
It fell the same way we did, Jewish sjw globohomo leftist mind virus. Christianitywas the equivalent for the Roman’s what we are facing now with the Jewish globohomo sjw politics

>>515058811
Its been fun gyppo. I ever catch you stealing or scamming you are getting the treatment of your jewish "god".

Sayonnara.

>>515058821
Jews did have power after Constantine. Julian the apostate request the Jews to fund his expedition against Persia. Before that Jews were like any other ethnic group in the Roman Empire. But the Romans collapsed because they have Germanic people high ranking military positions and it backfired greatly. They did it because they were “Christians” like them.

>>515057598
>what part of it is so oh Roman, the oriental totalitarian kingship reigning over an oriental population?
Oriental population - you mean greek? As in the ones whos culture you shamelessly copied and claimed to be an original product of yours? Then yeah that oriental population.
As opposed to what, an imperial totalitarian degenerate kingship like rome?
>the koine popular babble?
Yes the original language of your "Roman" culture.
>the jew worship?
God has no ethnicity
>giving up Rome itself barely even into the early middle ages?
What the fuck do you mean? Empire was split between Honorius and Arcadius. If you were to incompetent / degenerate to maintain itor had too little faith then that's your fault.

>>515057915
>Sanhedrim and Kohenim we used to call them.
Ah, so you are a filthy demonic kike!
You can't think outside of your narrow cultural upbringing.
>cygani
Some are Cygani, some are Romanians others are Greek, Serb Bulgarians, Russians Ukrainians, Portuguese Spanish, Americans and so on.
Does this bother you? Keep seething then!

>>515059980
Romanians are slavshits. Latinized Serbs. All must be deported. DEPORT DEPORT DEPORT

>>515059980
Ardelan o tsigan. Tut siamu romani yaliyaliyali.

Kill yourself.

>>515058452
>Why little gyppo? You scared of the Gehenna?
Bc Christ is God and God is The Way The Truth and The Life. And The Life is eternal.
Ofcourse I'm scared as any man should be but I trust Christ God Almighty Incarnate Resurected and Ascended.

>>515059028
Agreed.
Goodbye to you too for now.
We'll meet inthe Afterlife.
God bless you with wisdom so you may understand and may He open your eyes so you will see! Preferably before we meet.

>>515060742
>We'll meet inthe Afterlife.

No thank you.

>>515060056
>Romanians are slavshits. Latinized Serbs.
Mystery meat with mostly bulgarian and thracian with very little latin. Latinizing was done to the language by some 1848 faggots to counterbalance russians and hungarian encroachment and to have better relations with masonic france and their whole liberalistic shit.
>All must be deported. DEPORT DEPORT DEPORT
KEK. Your seething is le epic, memeflag

>>515060092
>Ardelan o tsigan. Tut siamu romani
Not exactly
>yaliyaliyali.
Wtf is that, some moorish tongue screeching? I thought only women do that.
>Kill yourself.
That's a big negative!
Cope and seethe!

>>515060792
>No thank you.
It's not optional.

>>515060056
But you are a kike which is worse, kike.

>>515061246
>Latinizing was done to the language by some 1848 faggots
more on this