Thread 515049991

Theyre trying to shame people for not wanting to eat cancer cells and acting like it wont be forced on people in the future. We dont even know the long term effects of this shit is on the body.

>>515049991 (OP)
Whatever. Meat already gives you cancer.

>>515049991 (OP)
lab meat is now cost efficient enough to be sold in markets?

>>515049991 (OP)
Why does everybody try to make this a left/right issue?
I simply don't trust corporations to innovate in the food industry safely, it's not a matter of collectivism/individualism.
Back in my day, the lefties were more suspicious of corporate greed than any other group. What happened to the hippies?

>>515049991 (OP)
they want you weak and sickly so you can't resist the horrors they plan to inflict upon you behind their pretty lies and false promises.

>>515049991 (OP)
Just because something is sold in a supermarket doesnt mean you are forced to buy

>>515050497
This. It's also a step away from self sufficiency and towards the transhumanist agenda where meat and eventually organs and people can be grown. It's also a vector to God knows what toxins they want to weaken us with

>>515049991 (OP)
This has nothing to do with left vs right. It's big agriculture vs big labs.

>>515049991 (OP)
>meat
You misspelled immortal nigger cancer cells op, pic related, eat her up leftist cannibals she looks so yummy.

>>515051063
Every lefty on reddit and x are defending this shit they want to force you to eat the cancer only right wingers are pushing back

>>515049991 (OP)
Cheaper

>>515050404
Lefties are all globalist corpo shills who want mass immigration for slave labor and more consumers so the rich can get richer under the guise of "le empathy"

>>515050112
all those studies use ultra-processed foods for their "red meat" sample

>THE ONIONS PILL
>that pfp
>Direction-brain me vs them nonsense
>Immediately out the gate guns blazing with uncharitable presuppositions about his opposition infantilizing them and discrediting rebuttals before any verbal exchange can even take place

no one needs to explain anything to this fucking retarded faggot and if he wants to eat carcinogenic lab meat and die prematurely just like a sizable proportion of these gmo libniggers who rushed out to inject a harmful chemical into their body because "science" and the government told them then let him, it'd be natural selection at work

>>515051371
>on reddit
found your problem. you need to go back. or grow a brain.

>>515051432
Not even a little bit true.
All commercially-sold meat is chemical-laden slop.
The cows are pumped full of antibiotics and hormones.
It's washed with ammonia after slaughter because cows stand waist-deep in shit on feedlots.
It then has nitrates and god-knows-what else added to keep it looking pink on the shelf.

>>515049991 (OP)
>Why do Leftists

Leftists are hypocrites without knowing it. The reason is because they just go along with whatever their chosen leaders tell them is the latest thing. If the latest thing is to hate genetically modified organics, then their useful idiots will all claim to hate genetically modified organics. At the same time, if their chosen leaders tell them that the right thing to do is to inject their bodies with the lab-created vaccine and then a half-dozen boosters, then they inject the lab-created thing and look down upon anyone who refuses it.

tl;dr - no one cares what the far-left says or does because they are mindless automatons and useful idiots.

>>515051935
so it's the chemicals, anti-biotics, hormones, waste, nitrates and who knows what that's causing cancer, not the meat?

>>515049991 (OP)
That looks absolutely vile, why so much "fat"

>>515050497
Bingo

>>515052425
Probably, yes.
There are some studies showing moderate consumption of unprocessed meat can slightly reduce the risk of certain cancers, but there are other studies that contradict these findings.

One of the other big problems is that animals bioaccumulate lots of nasty shit...
Dioxins are a good example - they fall out of the atmosphere and onto plants.
If you just ate plants, you'll ingest all of the dioxins that those plants absorbed.
But if you eat a cow that's been eating plants, you'll consume all of the dioxins that the cow ever ate, since it's not broken down and accumulates in muscle tissue.

Lead contamination works similarly, I think.

>>515049991 (OP)
>Why do Leftists want to force people to eat lab grown meat
Because it is owned and propelled by their very own lord and savior Vill Grates.
Leftist do not think, they react.

>>515054183
*Correction: Dioxins actually accumulate in animal fat, not muscle.

>>515049991 (OP)
I didn't know this was a thing. Has anyone here tried lab grown meat?

>>515054183
so what I said was in part true and the other part is contamination, then not eating meat results in missing out too many nutrients and protein, processed food and modern ranching causes cancer. the risk of JUST meat giving you cancer is outweighed by the good nutrients you get from meat. Ideally we'd have access to high quality meat instead of the increasingly degrading quality factory produced meat we get today. Im not trusting lab meat either.

>>515050510
Doesn't mean they won't start adding it in a real meat without any need to declare it on the label. They already put cricket powder everywhere without bothering to state it on a label.

>>515054628
didn't go to mc donalds for the last 15 years, so no
and yes, the most iconic amerimutt franchise burgers are fucking disgusting and your french fries are ugly

>>515054696
>the risk of JUST meat giving you cancer is outweighed by the good nutrients you get from meat
Debatable. In the US, vegetarians and vegans have a longer life expectancy, about 4 years' difference.
However, worldwide, meat eating generally predicts a longer life expectancy.

Both of these are probably because diet becomes a proxy for things like education, wealth, and consumption of processed slop.
Vegans / vegetarians in the US eat less slop, and are more likely to be rich and well-educated.
Similarly, people who eat more meat in the third world are less likely to be starving peasants.

>>515049991 (OP)
you're already eating cancer retard, shitty chips, soda, fast-food, microplastic in everything(from food to rain/air ), the meat who's full of chemicals, meds and steroids etc

>>515049991 (OP)
Leftist corpo bootlickers support it therefore I oppose it.

>>515049991 (OP)
>Trusting anything the government does
Lmfao, they deserve it.
Let it happen.

>>515049991 (OP)
>Why do Leftists want to force people to eat lab grown meat
They won't eat it otherwise.

>>515055736
He said cancer CELLS, retard, referring to the fact that lab grown meat is literal lab grown cancer. I will never skip an opportunity to call a germanal retarded.

>>515049991 (OP)
ITS PEOPLE! YOUR EATING PEOPLE!!

>>515050404
By making everything a right/left issue they can keep people's awakening compartmentalized along party lines and also keep them fighting amongst each other

>>515049991 (OP)
Leftism seems to be a form autism where people just get obsessed with one thing forever and can’t let it go

>>515056308
Even if this were true, there's zero evidence to suggest cancer can spread through consumption of cancerous tissue.

>>515050229

They are already selling some for like 600 dollars a plate in a posh restaurant in Singapore.

I don't think it's ready for regular people.

>>515051063
Of course it's left vs right. The left rejects nature and that is the biological basis from which all their "politics" manifest. That's why they're outraged at this, the same reason they're outraged at "anti-vaxxers" and "transphobes" and anyone who values the natural world. Left vs right isn't political so much as it is a biological battle defending nature from evil.

>>515056789
Holy shit this is the most retarded thing I've ever read.
Rightwingers are signing off on the wholesale destruction of the Amazon for cattle ranching,
as well as the forests of the southeast US for hog production.

Tell me more about your moral crusade to save nature, faggot.

>>515049991 (OP)
There are lots of arguments for it, from no longer needing to kill other creatures to reducing the amount of cow farts contributing greenhouse gases to our warming atmosphere. There are lots of good reasons, including the potential for eventually improving on mother nature's design. Imagine eating wagyu quality beef for a buck fifty a pound.

>>515056591
kek.

Give it a try and let us know how it goes.

>>515057045
In case it's not obvious from my posts, I'm a vegetarian (not vegan):
>>515055535

Lab grown meat does sound gross, but Polishanon is still retarded.

>>515056957
You don't even understand what it means to be right wing. You believe that being a jewish globalist corporatist means being "right wing", you have the understanding of a teenager, shut up and go away.

The right is the side of god, nature, blood, and tradition.

>>515056789
>nyone who values the natural world
I forgot that this is something rightoids are, from time to time, able to cough through the coal clouds with a straight face kek

>>515057129
>You don't even understand what it means to be right wing.
You don't understand what it means to be left wing.
You think "left wing" = "thing that xitter influencers are bitching about this week"

The left is the side of the people, the planet, and the future.

>>515057129
Tradition is corporatism at this point, though. Isn't that your whole shtick? You want "free markets" but simultaneously pretend that unbounded corporate power isn't the natural result. To be fair to you, it's a genuinely confused set of beliefs reliant upon being willing to fall back axiomatically on Old Thing Good when all the thinking gets too tough.

>>515050229
no, i don't think it'll ever reach that point either. it's just not feasible that it's ever going to reach the point where it's cheaper than normal meat unless there's just a mass extinction of livestock.
it's hard to scale up because you have to keep shit cleanroom levels of clean to grow meat without your samples getting tainted which gets harder to do the bigger you go which limits production.
there have been great strides made in reducing price, but it's probably always going to remain something you have to pay extra for.

>>515057159
Pray tell, the corporations destroying the rainforest, which values do they hold? Are they White-nationalist? Or are they mutlicultural globalists? What is their stance of abortion? Please let me know. What is their stance on guns? What is their stance on ANY political issue? I mean if they and their supporters are "right wing" they must all be a bunch of National Socialists no?

The banks and corporations destroying the environment are quite literally where the money is coming from to finance the left. The left have always been the useful idiots of global finance for over 100 years, as they have a common enemy in the traditional right wing self-sufficient land-owner.

You are in a bit of a pickle pretending to be on the side of nature when you're defending these giant food companies pushing lab meat (environmentally destructive since livestock are essential for our ecosystem and health). But then the entire vegan movement consists of moronic lefties like you who have no idea that they're useful idiots for big food and big pharma, like no idea whatsoever. Obtuse retards.

>>515057548
>Tradition is corporatism
Jesus christ shut up you 10 year old.

>>515057758
>Pray tell, the corporations destroying the rainforest, which values do they hold
They are market capitalists, which is generally regarded as a right wing ideology.
Thanks for playing, bong trash.

I punched a woman right in the guts when she told me I shouldn't be eating meat. I savored the expression on her face. She was shocked. I told her I'd kill her if she ever told anybody about it.

I punched a woman right in the guts when she told me I shouldn't be eating meat. I savored the expression on her face. She was shocked. I told her I'd kill her if she ever told anybody about it.

>artificially generated art :(
>artificially generated meat :O

>>515057758
>>515057790
Honestly, it's just fun watching you dance on the head of a pin as you earnestly and wholly without self-awareness try to weave a really quite boring and mundane mythology that is obviously quite romantic to you (in the way a moron waxes grandiloquent about a Stephen King novel) based on the Holy Position along a puerile left/right continuum kek

>>515049991 (OP)
If you need a rational argument for why this is bad, there is no saving you. You are already gone.

>>515050404
/thread

>>515050112
Cholesterol also makes sex hormones you soi faggot

>>515056992
>make things more affordable
Wow, cool it with the antisemitism

is this the new right wing culture war grift panic thing?

>>515049991 (OP)
Why dont they just incentivize farmers to raise and grow more cattle, pork etc.? Why dont they sell off govt land and start up more farms and encourage americans to farm cattle etc?

Why is their answer to everything artificial and/or GMO lab food.

Its almost like they want you to be sick and unhealthy while getting ridiculously rich. Imagine that.

>>515058165
What isn't? They'll don the habit and preach the gospel on literally anything these days.

>>515050404
>Why does everybody try to make this a left/right issue?
That’s how the control system works. Everything has to be tied to one of two allowed positions. A constant bombardment of the new next thing cycles everything through the programming to train association of every conceivable topic to whichever side one resides in. It doesn’t matter which side you pick, only that you pick one. Get in line, faggot, you aren’t special.

>>515058176
>Why dont they just incentivize farmers to raise and grow more cattle, pork etc.
Good question. Large animal production is an insanely inefficient use of agriculture resources.
Approximately 41% of all land in the contiguous US is used for animal agriculture, mostly monocrop agriculture to produce feed.

Then there's all of the fertilizer, water, etc. that is wasted in the process.

I'm so glad this shit is getting banned before they can force it on us. Reminder the failed "plant-based meat" products were explicitly intended by the CEOs to result in a meat ban.

>>515058691
of course jewish oligarchs would eat real meat while plebs would eat plant based meat and bug burgers. it all circles back to their vision of a future kalergi slave race stripped of all human dignity

>>515058691
>failed "plant-based meat" products
You can still buy these at every grocery store.
I don't see how it was supposed to result in a "meat ban" - seems like they're just making products for vegetarians?

>>515054628
One time I went down on your mom when she had a yeast infection, does that count?

>>515057712
>Unless
Who's gonna tell him?

>>515049991 (OP)
Corporations want to cut cost ->hire some dipshit grifter to shill the method -> dumbass influences catching it for easy virtuesignal farm -> dumbfuck retards gobbling it up. This shit isn't limited to left-wing either.

>>515051421
>mass immigration for slave labor
it's not so much that as it is the banks wanting to load them up with debt. A million immigrants with $30k debt apiece lets the fractional reserve system create $300,000,000,000. Ten million immigrants = 3 trillion dollars.

>>515049991 (OP)
Lab Grown meat is attractive because if it turns out to be safe, and we can produce it at scale for cheap enough, then it basically ends animal exploitation and annihilates the vegan moral cause. Capitalists see this as "meat but for a larger market without the overhead of actually raising and caring for livestock". Republicans and Democrats both are already investing heavily into lab meat companies. Even if they champion banning it in their own back yard to protect their farmers and ranchers, they will push it on the rest of the world.

>>515049991 (OP)
I'm not a """right-winger""" but I can defend it very easily:
- I, personally, do not want to eat lab-grown slop
- Most niggercattle will eat whatever and not give it a second thought
- If niggercattle starts buying lab-grown slop, the practice will be normalized
- Once it's normalized, they will pull real meat from the shelves or make it a premium product
- I will then have to pay double for real meat
- I do not want to pay double
- Therefore niggercattle should be prevented from consuming this product
- Therefore it should be banned

More generally, anything a society tolerates today is going to become the norm tomorrow, therefore you should never tolerate something you don't want to be your own "new normal".

>>515056591
Okay. Eating cow shit doesn't cause cancer either.

>>515060661
>if it turns out to be safe
Safe and effective. Trust the science. Niggercattle will eat any kind of subhuman slop and then act surprised when it gets the turbo-cancer it deserves.

>>515057871
Damn you got btfo. Nice ad hom

>>515049991 (OP)
much of our beef comes from texas, this is protective

>>515049991 (OP)
"it's scawy cause lab"

Amateur social engineers cannot be trusted.

>>515060661
>if
>if
>if
You are a failed experiment.

>>515049991 (OP)
lab grown meat is healthier than malnourished cow meat pumped full of hormones, antibiotics, contaminants and heavy metals

but conservatives are emotional thinkers are don't educate themselves. thats why they they still use religious fairytales to guide their lives instead of common sense

>>515049991 (OP)
>GMOs bad
>OMG LAB GROWN MEAT IS SO HECKIN COOL

>>515063270
based on the height of your belly button vs the door handle, you're like 5 feet tall on a good day lil nigger.

>>515061739
Pretty sure I'm correct.
It was a nice ad hom though.

>>515055535
Go be a vegan somewhere else, faggot.

>>515064613
I'm vegetarian, not vegan, and I think I'll continue being a vegetarian right here.
Thank you for your attention to this matter, faggot.

>>515049991 (OP)
Same reason they want to flood the country with cheap working foreigners. They can drive the cost to nothing and jack the price up as much as they want. Like rich fucks want to make themselves richer at any cost and paint you as the bad guy for slowing down their money making

>>515063270
>conservatives are emotional thinkers
The glaze anything that's old and outdated. That's why many of them, like their leader are practicing pdfiles.

>>515049991 (OP)
Red meat is very inefficient. Needs lots of water and land, produces many greenhouse gases. Also gives cancer and is bad for your gut. It should be treated as a delicacy.

>>515064849
>it's hip and trendy to eat artificially generated cancer cells goy
>you don't want to be like those silly CONSERVATIVES do you?

>>515064960
>It should be treated as a delicacy.
translation: red meat is for rich people only. giving it to plebs isn't sustainable

>>515049991 (OP)
It's new synthetic shite nobody knows what it does to the body long term. When millions of people have been eating it for 100 plus years we might know if it's safe.

>>515065085
Yes, in the current system.

But leftists also say we should send the rich to death camps, so there should be no issue.

>>515065227
the "left" just want to replace the current bureaucracy with their own. like in the soviet union the top officials would have their own farms and vineyards while the proles ate stale barley

>>515065008
Give it 100 years, it'd be established by then.
>Ahhhhh alien nano meat is degenerate
>I'ma stick to my lab grown meat just like my grand daddy ATE!
This is literally how conservatives think. Always regressive.

>>515049991 (OP)
Then
>Radium is a cure-all!
>Nicotine is good for you!
>Tetraethyl is safe!
Now
>This shit is good for you goy trust us

>>515065583
>it'd be established by then
looks like numeat is losing so probably not lol

>>515065440
Corruption is not exclusive to left wing ideologies. More liberal systems are probably slightly more corruption-proof but that does not mean they're immune to it, as we can see these days.

In the modern era, we have the technology and experience to improve accountability and further corruption-proof a collective economy

That was fast.

>>515065949
left wing ideologies are just as corrupt, but try to hide it with a veneer of humanitarianism. at the end of the day you're advocating for rich people fucking over poor people. you believe the common man having red meat in his diet isn't compatible with DAVOS billionaires' globalist vision of the world where everyone is a stupid brown serf living in pods while important people enjoy the small luxuries of life

>>515049991 (OP)
why do rightist want to forces us to tongue kike anus?

>>515050404
>Back in my day, the lefties were more suspicious of corporate greed than any other group. What happened to the hippies?
It's just environmentalism, beef production is getting more expensive with wacky climate.
I don't see a reason to ban the meat, I mean it's just another option that you now won't have, seems more like actual corporate greed to ban it since it forces people to only buy normal meat, which has more and more become centralized with corporate overlords

No one is trying to force you to eat it. Why do you refuse to allow people who want to eat it to be able to eat it? Your bans have no legitimacy.

>>515049991 (OP)

calling artificially produced lab products the same name as authentic products is just further degradation and erosion of God's Glorious gift of creation. He will judge you all one day for allowing this to happen.

It's for this reason that I refuse to consider test-tube babies real humans. A sick joke, designed to mock the perfection of creationism and replace it with tragic caricatures of nature's perfect design.

>>515067654
the """"meat"""" is made entirely of cancer cells. it's banned for the same reason cow shit is banned commercially

>>515065714
its literally because conservacucks are being lobbied by the meat industry to spread propaganda about lab grown meat

lab grown meat is more expensive because its higher quality
they can remove all the contaminants and defects from meat derived from sick cows and instead clone the cells from healthy well fed cows without probiotics, hormones, diseases, and contaminants

>>515049991 (OP)
so much for the "Free market economy" and letting people buy whatever type of meat they want

>>515068797
lab grown "meat" is more expensive because retards stupid enough to eat something that's dubiously classified as food are stupid enough to pay a premium for it lol

you're better off just moving to india and eating the shit off the ground. cows replicate a lot of that. you may even absorb more nutrients from it too

>>515054696
I think you win
Burgerlard is clearly a basedbrained retard

>>515064753
I hope you like colostomy bags

>>515057881
I punched your mom in the guts and made her eat meat.
G4ass

>>515049991 (OP)
Same reason they want to burn everything else down
>ItS ImMoRAL
I wonder if they ever stopped to realise 90% of their activism supports things Saudi Arabia and/or Israel want

>>515058066
Jesus you're delusional
>>515057871
And you

>>515058211
Yeah like.. gay rights or chopping off your penis or supporting rapists as long as they're black or representation for women in Hollywood or-
Oh wait, those are all stupid things.

Typical basedfarmer

>>515049991 (OP)
why do rightist want to force me to not eat lab-grown meat?
what happened to free choice and free markets when it comes to food choices?
how would you like it if I banned your favorite foods?
literally not a single good argument in this entire thread for banning it

>>515070030
something that's technically an animal product isn't automatically food, sanjeep. if that's your way of thinking then go back to fucking india. tell your h1b friends to leave too

>>515049991 (OP)
They believe it can be produced in huge amounts while using little land and resources once the technology matures. They're all Malthusian doomers now so the idea attracts them. It's that simple.

>>515070299
again not a single argument for banning it
no one is forcing you to eat it
why should I be forced not to have access to it if I want to eat it?
again, how would that be different from me banning some food you want to buy?
bring an actual argument next time

>>515070030
I don't have any problem with lab grown meat as such, I just recognize the people pushing it have an agenda for doing so that probably isn't in my best interest.

>>515070989
still waiting for a single valid argument for banning it and depriving me and others who want to consume it from doing so

>>515070891
if you actually had an argument it wouldn't be banned in texas right now lol

on the bright side if you're hungry you can always just eat your toenails or something. you don't seem like you'd find a problem with that

>>515071318
I'm the one who is waiting for an argument
I don't need any argument beyond the fact that I want to eat it
you're the one who needs to come up with a valid reason for depriving me of it
I'm not depriving you of anything
so?
still waiting

>>515071483
you have a right to eat whatever you want sanjeep, but nobody is selling it to you in texas. you could always try somewhere else, perhaps a large populated country in south asia. i heard there aren't many texans there

>>515059632
theyre going bankrupt

>>515049991 (OP)
The Jew fears the alamo

>>515071710
see, still just dodging the question
people would sell it to me if it weren't banned
so, what's the argument for banning it?
it's funny how no one can come up with even a single argument

>>515071297
It became a political issue. I don't consider that a good reason but I also understand that if I don't take this "unreasonable" position I will be forced to accept another, far worse one. Once Bill Gates and friends are out of the picture and there's no more Agenda 2030 to worry about we can let *good faith* investment in research and normal market mechanisms back in. Until then fuck off.

>>515071949
a lot of yapping, still not a single argument
still waiting
>normal market mechanisms
I and many other people like me would like to eat it
a lot of companies would like to offer it
you are stepping in and preventing us from transacting freely
and you're doing it without even presenting a single argument for it

>>515049991 (OP)
You aren’t trying to be healthy useless eater are you?

>>515072121
I gave you an answer. I don't know how to be more clear about it. Maybe stop being so Indian and learn how to read English.

>>515072121
nigga texas already banned it. thousands of elected officials gave it the greenlight. it's now your responsibility to prove how they're all wrong.

well bitch we're waiting. the documents are all public

>>515049991 (OP)
I want to eat lab meat drinking science juice

Total non issue. The biggest lab grown meat company just went belly up the other day. Demand isn’t there.

>>515049991 (OP)
Because it's profitable to find a way to convert raw sewage and agricultural waste into food products. It's a hallmark of every dystopia.

>>515072288
you haven't provided a single argument
your "answer" is just a lot of mindless yapping, and zero argument
not just that, but literally claiming me wanting to consume something and someone wanting to offer it to me is somehow not "normal market forces"
you don't know how to be "clear" about it because you literally don't have a single argument, lmao
>>515072294
yes, I know they banned it, I'm literally asking what the argument is for that being acceptable market interference
forcing people away from products they want to consume as part of a free market is literally regulatory capture and market manipulation
so much for the "free market"
and no, it's not my responsibility, I just want to consume it, and they want to offer it to me, basic free market transaction
you're the one who has to provide an actual argument for why it should be banned, and I'm still waiting for a single one

>>515072449
that's not an argument for banning it
if you claim the market doesn't favor it, then let it play out, and let consumers choose what they want to eat

>>515060661
It also solves a very pesky problem with beef: it’s one of the few industries left where half of production is not centralized. Yes, 5% of producers control half the beef, but the other 95% are small producers (fewer than 100 head). I won’t pretend that’s great, but it’s better than most industries, though I suspect the ranchers getting record/near record low prices while the stores sell at a premium suggest the moves are being made to consolidate.

>>515051063
The political compass hasn't meant anything beyond picrel for a decade and counting

>>515056738
I'll stick to vagrant and poorfag food such as lobsters and crabs

>>515049991 (OP)
Leftists love anything "new," regardless of whether it's good or bad. We need to repackage mass suicide as something new so that leftists will rush to be the first on their block to do it.

>>515059632
It needed to catch on enough to ban meat for plebs. People being able to buy food from a local farmer is a big problem for globalist psychos. This is why they fund the left that demands immigration to ensure the population is divided and incapable of removing the oligarchs.

>texas is about to be under pajeet/mudslime control
>govn Faggot
>LETS BAN PORN
>LETS BAN FAKE MEAT
>LETS BAN ANTI SEMITISM

Because they want to remove white farmers from their land.

>>515049991 (OP)
Since when can we produce lab grown meat en masse?

>>515049991 (OP)
We have a massive cattle market here, why would we jeopardize that with Kike meat made from who the fuck knows what?

I'm simply not going to eat the tumour meat.

>>515049991 (OP)
they are the ones who will be brought to shame. God is pretty cool like that.

>>515073718
you can always butcher all the obese goycattle in texass if you run out of beef