Thread 515053497

How's the golden age of America going for you?

>>515053497 (OP)
Serious question: does anyone actually believe this?

>>515053733
maga bots do

Remember how he refused to put his hand on the Bible? What was that??

>>515053497 (OP)

Era of urea....mostly in diapers.

>>515053497 (OP)
It's not a golden age until you expell the kikes.
People can't even afford to eat, except rich kikes like Trump

Going great and it's just getting started. Every day that passes is unfortunately one fewer day I get to have Trump as my president.

Every single day there are fewer non-Whites than there were the day before, so yeah, pretty fuckin good!!!

GREAT.
How about you. You a lady yet? Still mentally ill? Hand your guns in. We need to collect them before we send the men in white coats with the butterfly nets for phase 2 of operation make the lunatic asylum great again.

>>515053859
He's a kike.
Rejected Christ for satan in 2017.
Touching Holy Bible or even a KJV makes him break out and his skin sloughs off.

>>515053859
Believe it or not, Trump is loyal to Israel, not to God.

>>515053497 (OP)
I've come out at as to a maga tranny
Thank you Trump

>>515053497 (OP)
Yeah the golden age of America is when it is the least white it has ever been with the weakest economy it's ever had kek. Trump can claim he's trying to right the ship but calling this America's golden age is beyond retarded.

>>515053497 (OP)

>cancel culture dying
>crime being thwarted
>illegals being deported more often
>housing costs finally coming down
>comedy, tv and video games slightly better because woke = broke
>communities fighting against tranny pedos in girls' bathrooms in elementary and middle schools
>nice hot summer, mild, early autumn

Pretty fucking good, honestly. It's no 1995, but it's better than 2017-2019 and absolutely fucking better than 2020-2024.

>>515053859
What's wrong?
Aren't anti christians happy about that?

>>515054216
/Thread

>America
You misspelled Israel, glow-kike

>>515053497 (OP)
>software engineer for a living in a startup with solid tech
>startup fails because the lack of jew marketing
>look for software engineering jobs and no offers
>realize it's all outsourced to street shitters
>become stay at home dad while wife cleans for a living
yeah golden age for sure

>>515054404
>become stay at home dad
This is my dream desu

>>515054036
He has been a kike his whole life, the worst kind of kike a pedophile, an adulterer, doing all the kabbalist shit, doing satanic rituals and climbing the satanic ladder.
He was a kike pedophile and occult wizard way before his first term and everyone that knew a thing about him knew what he would do and how he is. Nothing changed about him.
Now that he's dying he's starting to talk about heaven because the demons that helped him are now teabagging him and he doesn't know the way of God and how to even talk to God let alone what is happening, death in confusion is what he gets when he makes deals with devils.
Art the get fucked orange kike dog.
Disgusting swollen fat pig with pustulen purulent scabs.

>>515054216
It must be hard to fool yourself into thinking you won because republicans won

Everything returns to how it was in 3 years. There's no reason to care about America.

>>515054577
It's because we are winning the culture war. If you are a lefty you will always hate trump, but odds are what you believe will shift to be much more inline with /pol/'s ideals, such as they are. Same with the rest of your cohort.

>>515054718
Except with a broken economy, like the last 3 times a republican was president

We are 5 years away from collapse.
In 2030, the national debt will be $50T, and interest on that debt will suck up half of all tax revenues.

>>515055016
You're not winning the culture war, you're strong arming it, you think that it won't shift back violently and organically? You're also making people poor

>>515055157
That's at least 5 years from now. Right now is the golden age.

>>515055162
We are winning. The tides are shifting quickly. The massive censorship online from 2014-2023 was strong arming the cultural narrative. Things are just returning to a more neutral state. YWNBAW

>>515053497 (OP)
>golden age of America
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

>>515055552
>we are winning!
>ad hominem attack
Pathetic

>>515053497 (OP)
>How's the golden age of America going for you?
good question
this guy narrates some amusing tiktoks re whining losers getting fucked by Trump tariff tax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GitpXKTJZFw

>>515053733
you'd be surprised what golems will belive.
only bad people believe anything that goes against the savior of the world, donaldjtrump

>>515055720
LOL, imagine getting upset over the tamest of bants. T-that's ad hominem! No wonder your side is losing the culture war, no one likes pussies.

>>515053497 (OP)
For that he would have to do a clean that obviously he can't and won't

>>515055162
Its a matter of perspective, I guess. Trump v1 was a surprise organic thing, Trump v3 was a clear electorial win. That isn't strong arming. Also the decisions of the right, which include selecting Trump a decade back, were based on the actions of the left - we have yet to see how far right things are going to go.

>>Making people poor
MMT is a failed model. It failed hard enough to make a populist outsider like trump to be electable. The neoliberal establishment failed the west, and it is just staggering to still meet people that think otherwise. The only people that are made 'poor' are those that live sucking from the teat of hypotheticated dollars - a system that would totally fail sooner or later - and like I said above - it was already failing. To not be poor you have to get yourself in a position of doing something actually useful for your fellow man - not do busy work for a government contract. I recognize that understanding what a functioning economy looks like is unknown to a lot of people given they have lived their lives not seeing one. This isn't a zero-sum game. We are empowered by working for each other, this is where wealth comes from, not from currency hypotheticated from the air by a central bank.

>>515055914
I bet you hate pussies faggot

>>515053497 (OP)
>How's the golden age of America going for you
Great, actually. Less caseload at work because less illegal immigrants commiting crime. More time off which is great on a salary. Bought a second house for when my kid starts college. No debt, 6 years from full pension and my retirement investmentd are currently worth like 750k.

>>515055992
Yes, I hate women and faggots.

>>515054718
False. A democrat will never hold federal office again, ever. Project 2025 has already accomplished FOURTY SEVEN percent of its goals and we’re just over half way through year one

https://www.project2025.observer/en

>do you really think all the mass federal layoffs are firings are about saving money?

>>515053497 (OP)
apparently the golden age is 12 year olds

>>515055981
Oh yea, putting trade barriers up to our market to the entire world and placing trillions on the credit card in the vain hope the wealthiest will chose business expansion over stock buybacks is a lot better than putting salaries in local economies

>>515053497 (OP)
Your friend announces he would like for you to attend the Kamala Harris 2025 Tour
Which section are you buying

>>515056113
>I hate women
There's a shocker

>>515056332
>He respects women
lol. lmao, even.

>>515056498
I respect women that deserve respect. You generalize because you give all women the ick.

>>515056628
>I respect women that deserve respect.
Lmfao.
>you give all women the ick.
My fucking sides.

>>515053497 (OP)
My local (statewide) electric company is a corrupt monopoly owned by overseas money. There are 6 taco stands/Mexican restaurants on main street, 4 bodegas, 20+ boarded up properties. The local factory closed adding 300+ job seekers. Gas is still above $3/gallon and climbing. Average rent is $1400+, mortgages are just as bad. Groceries are still through the roof. The local small towns don't even do trick or treat anymore, just trunk or treat, because it's too dangerous at night. Cars still cost $60k+ and the shit box I have doesn't even start anymore; I live at least 10 miles out from the nearest town. Everyone is selling their houses and only mysteriously rich beaners and kikes are buying, if even. Boomers and wealth disparity everywhere; those that aren't rich live in abject poverty. Winter is coming and the prices of all heat sources have skyrocketed, wood included.
And so much more.
All while everyone crows about how great everything is going.
>So much winning.
If there is a just and merciful God, please just let him send the meteor already.

>>515055016
>we voted for a culture war based off pols ideologies.
Yes, that will end well. The swing to the left is gonna a tough one for you guys. And it won't be trannys and limp wristed antifa faggots hitting the streets or getting uppity at your local town hall meeting.

Farmers in Arkansas are already getting their dose of "we fell for it" reality.

>>515056267
>Oh yea, putting trade barriers up to our market to the entire world

If you sell into the US market you now need to employ Americans to make those goods. Exceptions are being made if large domestic investments are being done by the companies in question (ex. TSMC)

That doesn't rely on hope or goodwill by corporate types, it is changing the incentive structure of companies - it is using and exploiting economics as a tool - which fundamentally it is.

And all of this directly results in salaries in local economies - making real stuff - not spending on welfare corporate or individual. All of the objections you are raising have been thought though and debated on the right ten years ago. The right chose Trump and his ideas over a lot of other competing people and ideas. Even he was surprised to win the first time.

>>515056802
>Farmers in Arkansas are already getting their dose of "we fell for it" reality.
Imagine thinking Arkansas farmers are going to vote for a tranny affirming democrat because of bad business. They will still vote red because democrats actively despise them.

>>515056672
Oh also there's all this talk of inflation relief checks, DOGE dividends, sovereign wealth rebates, etc....entirely crickets on that for months.
Fuck this bullshit.

>>515056669
>I'm laughing!
>believe me!
I mean, who cares if you are but you seem like you're not

>>515056990
I'm genuinely laughing at the leftist minded retorts you keep pumping out.
"Uh- actually you probably didn't laugh out loud, so saying LOL is a lie... Pretty problematic!"
Absolutely fucking kek.

>>515056802
I happen to be quite happy with the direction things are going rn. The direction we were going pre Trump was untenable.

>>515056945
Who said they'd vote for a Democrat? Maybe they will, a populist rural Democrat. If the democrats get their shit together and start seeing how culture war nonsense isn't getting anywhere, all they need to do is focus on the working class, like they used to. And it's over, Republicans are now just as entrenched in culture war nonsense as the democrats were. It's now a game of who can actually let it go first.

>>515053497 (OP)
>golden age
Just missing one tiny detail

>>515057225
I agree with you on that point, honestly. My problem is that it's currently IMPOSSIBLE for the democrats to do. Like you and I both know that the trans position is not a winning one. Democratic leadership tried to walk back across that line with Seth Moulton and the based ate him alive as a transphobe. How do you see the democratic party getting out of that?

>>515053497 (OP)
by the sounds of things, not great
two of my relatives who live in america are now out of work thaks to trump

>>515056871
>first term tariff bailouts
Maybe surgical tariffs would have brought back manufacturing but blanket ones just make it more expensive to produce anything compared to anywhere else

>>515057107
And you're just filling your head with things you'd imagine I'd say

>>515053733
There's people who don't understand that words and actions aren't the same. I don't know why they're like that, but they exist.

>>515057591
Yep, because leftists are programmed to believe The Narrative. You only have a handful of ideas you're even allowed to have and I've heard them all before. You're just a NPC.

>>515057680
Gross generalizations are "generally" a sign of a weak mind

>>515057381
I don't know.
From my perspective the US is a place that has different groups of people, and those groups need some sort of representation, so who will do that?
Republicans have all but washed their hands of anything even remotely "woke" and that includes even gay people now, not just trannys.
So even if the democrats just toned down the trans stuff and refused to focus on that section of the culture war, they'll still need to align with the LGBT communities somehow.
This is why tho I think if a big enough working class shift or consciousness happens and Republicans keep shitting on them, things might change to the point that the LGBT shit will just be slid to the side, no one will care about trannys or "white supremists" anymore.

>>515057523
blanket tariffs are the only way. Surgical tariffs are another word for corruption - which is going to happen with all of this. Don't think for a moment my support for Trump's tariffs mean that I like them. This is an emergency fix for desperate times. Things were bad enough in 2015 - then we had Biden tardation with handling COVID policy. The US is almost hopelessly in debt - with interest on our debts growing faster than revenue can pay it back. A collapse of the dollar follows that debt spiral. maybe, by a slim chance we can still avoid that. Even if we can't get this fixed, by forcing production back to onshore we will be in a much, much better place to handle that collapse. The more that can come back means the less chance of a systemic failure and if it does occur it will hurt less. Having production here also has effects on geopolitical stability. (not to mention having quality jobs) The MAGA part of MAGA was just the sales pitch - but was also a realistic effect of the changes.

in terms of cost to manufacture, yeah, that's called good salaries. I thought you would like that kind of thing.

>>515056672
You voted for it.

>>515058116
Yeah, the democratic base is basically entirely LGBT/non-whites/white losers. No one is looking as Jasmine Crockett or AOC and thinking "That's the future of America I want to see". All they know how to do is double down on Obama-era identity politics. They're in a tailspin and there's no one even attempting to right the course. The sane people are being driven from the democratic party in droves.

>>515058209
You understand who is currently devaluing the dollar and raising debt? I admire your ideals and we're clearly too stupid to be a service economy but the evisceration of the chips act and absolute lack of incentive apart from an abandoned market belies the dearth of a long term plan

>>515053497 (OP)
Ok

>>515053733
If Trump says it, it's true.

>>515059280
Cope

>>515058763
I think you are on the wrong side of both of these things. A devalued dollar means our industry is more competitive globally. Ten+ years ago the developing world actively did competitive devaluation to make their own industries more competitive. A crash is what needs to be avoided. A sinking dollar means less tariffs are needed. This ultimately would happen anyway when printing $ gets out of control. The dollar being the reserve currency of the world is a blessing and a curse for the US. In recent years it has been more of a curse.

In terms of the changes in the chips act, the view of semiconductor insiders on semiwiki is surprisingly positive (and from observation, they are NOT Trump fans by default). (I assume you are talking about the Intel deal). The us taxpayer holds 10% of the company, 'purchased' at a low. Intel was not going to finish the Ohio fab for some years because they had severe cashflow issues. That money that got freed up by Trump for intel to use is going to pay down some of their debts coming due. It makes it more likely that the Ohio 14A fabs will come online and sooner.

You also don't seem to get that tariffs are an incentive. You don't have to pay somebody directly to incentivise them. Tariffs just change the entire economic equation on where you do things for a company. It is a much simpler knob to turn than to force the asshats in congress or the executive branch into a soviet style planning committee that targets industry development. Now all you have to do is to look at trade balances, and tweak the single number. Tariffs are a very old, simple, functional thing.

I'm hearing America is back

>>515060223
Imagine a WNBA player getting hit with one of those.

>>515060223
>here's that manufacturing you asked for bro, what's wrong?

>>515059644
>competitive globally
You tellin me I can't afford to live so "we" can be CoMpEtItiVe GlObAlLy, fuck off

>>515060635
You don't get it at all. If you are struggling economically, even if you are on the left, the MAGA right is doing what it is dong in part for you. Populist doesn't have a R or D in front of it. This new right genuinely believes this is the correct economic choice for the country to make to make the lives of the little guy better.

If you are struggling economically, any jobs created are for you. Pushing out migrants is an attempt to raise wages, and it isn't about mexicans - its about jobs - see the raid in Georgia at the hynduai plant in the past few days.

I see the tropes about the left saying 'but Americans won't take those jobs". I don't know what to say, if you need a job - there you go. I certainly don't have a problem doing either white or blue collar jobs, and imho the best jobs require both sets of skills.

>>515061323
The Georgia plant raid is so fucking sick because it's a good example to counter "They're just doing the jobs Americans don't want to do!" I guarantee you Americans would take those Hyundai jobs if they paid American wages.

I'm not really noticing anything since I'm not in America.

Except of course, I am paying tariffs, because Trump finally made us PAY. So now instead of abusing America I am paying tariffs, just paid 200$ worth of them today

>>515053733
No, lol.

The only people in America who support trump are dementia boomers, who will die to the covid vax in 2 more years. Which is why they're manufacturing support for him by setting miga bots free upon the internet

>>515061323
>You don't get it at all. If you are struggling economically, even if you are on the left, the MAGA right is doing what it is dong in part for you. Populist doesn't have a R or D in front of it. This new right genuinely believes this is the correct economic choice for the country to make to make the lives of the little guy better.

That is objectively not true because they are putting american companies first, and taxing consumers a tariff to give them an edge over foreign competitors. The average "little guy" doesn't own a manufacturing business.

Trump also admitted to increasing public spending (aka inflation and taxes) in order to get reelected by giving people handouts. That puts him first.

>>515061914
>tue because they are putting american companies first

This is obviously false. Trump doesn't give a shit about who owns the company, he just wants the manufacturing to be here. ex. TSMC. If the manufacturing is here, the jobs are here - its just that simple.

The tariffs are just trying to get companies to locate their production here. You don't want to pay a tariff, you build a plant and pay Americans to make your stuff that is sold here.

>>515058510
Jokes on you, I didn't vote

>>515062178

Ok to be fair that makes sense. But it's obvious that there are still winners and losers with this. People who already had a job anyway or will not work in manufacturing, and other businesses, will be paying extra so some people get manufacturing jobs and some american factories have less competition.

This shouldn't be a surprise, because any law by Trump can only coerce americans, so anything he does will hurt some americans and benefit others. "America first" is just a slogan.

Not to mention, jobs are not something that can be in a shortage and needs to be made, what actually makes a society have a good standard of living is the ability to produce. For example, if they passed a law that people have to work with a hand tied to their back, it would make a lot of jobs, but in practice it'd still make everyone poorer.

If the chinese can produce things for cheaper than locally, the only way to make the best of that situation is for the government to either do nothing and leave the market alone, so the people who would make those things will instead work on something that they can do better than the chinese, which is the most efficient for production, or, instead of sabotaging imports, reduce taxes for local manufacturing so that it can be better than the chinese.

>>515053497 (OP)
Expert Civ player here. It looks like you blew your lead by relying too much on trade as opposed to upgrading your own economic and industrial hubs. Now other civs are catching up to you, and your demands have caused some of your allies to denounce you, which could bankrupt your trade reliant economy. You are also approaching red levels of loyalty loss in vital cities. Getting 1st place at this point will be a challenge if something isn’t done immediately

>>515062913
That's why we're sending the national guard in.

>>515062796
You are not entirely wrong, but you are stating points that were ground into the ground 10 years+ back here.

China can do so well in part because they are mercantilist. They have worked for decades to pull manufacturing into their country - to great effect. That is clearly bad for the average worker in the US, for the overall economic stability for the US, and for the national security of the US (ex. rare earths being cut off). All the US is doing is employing related domestic industry protecting tools as China and the rest of the world does.

In a perfect world we could live without trade barriers and a universal liquid stable financial system. This isn't a perfect world.

>>515053497 (OP)
I thought Trump wanted an end to the Ukraine war? He's getting America even more involved KEK KEK
MAGA retards

>>515054216
Thing is, I can easily name those things and many more like his order to stop de banking, massive inshoring of capital, and hes probably going to decrim weed soon.

I cannot remember ever in almost 50 years a government actually doing so much good stuff, like it isnt even close, I will get one or two good things I can name each decade, and there is like 10 things in the last 6 months that I wish we could do here.

>>515061672
Stop buying American goods, don't use American companies.
I personally think McDonald's, Starbucks and all the other obesity drivers should be banned here. Just like kike politicians McDonald's seem to sneak their way into everyone's diet.
I hate Americans, they're a cancer on the planet

>>515053497 (OP)
>gas cheaper
>food cheaper
>less brown people
>less taxes
Yeah. It could be better though (still too many browns)

>>515063432

Well, I mean, even if china is mercantilist and has their own tariffs, I don't think that changes what I said. For example, I also don't think anyone should make any "relatiatory tariffs" to Trump, because those tariffs still hurt their own people. What I said about how trade and jobs work applies regardless of other countries policy.

I'm not familiar with what points were ground into the ground in the US or why, but I think that normies anywhere are very dumb and easily accept absurd arguments as settled consensus, so that shouldn't matter.

>>515063725

I don't eat junk food but I like American supplements, and buy them from iHerb so I don't have to pay a tariff. I don't think I'm being selfish or doing anything wrong. I don't want to pay more or accept a worse product in order to "make jobs" here, I think people who would work on that should do something they're good at.

I sure wish you all would stop using the word kike

>>515053497 (OP)
Things are more expensive now, equipment I need for both my job and my hobbies are becoming harder/more expensive because they're not made in the US and have no American-made alternatives, and all of it's set to be getting worse in the coming months, but apparently I should be fine with all of that cause some Mexicans I've never met in a state a thousand miles away from me are getting clumsily shuffled about the country, so things are going great for the US right now for me

>>515063726
>less brown people
less mexicans means less homes because all they do is build homes. i dont even know why you guys hate latinos. they are a model minority here. i think its like when japanese chuds hate the chinese. some people will hate immigrants no matter what.

>less taxes
what about the tariffs

>gas cheaper
>food cheaper
that's still not a golden age, because it could be so much better, but trump is only marginally better than joe biden

>>515064290
>apparently I should be fine with all of that cause some Mexicans I've never met in a state a thousand miles away from me are getting clumsily shuffled about the country
also because trump is loudly saying that he is putting america first and the chinese and european WILL PAY or something

>>515063975
You are talking about economics in a purely abstract/textbook sense.

Meanwhile China doesn't have much industrial safety, environmental protections, and I'd assume less social safety nets, and their ip protections of others is questionable.

Now you demand US workers compete with Chinese workers in a globalization system. So companies flee the entire west and locate production in China. Should the entire west restructure itself to have less worker protections? less environmental protections? The US worked very hard to find a balance between worker rights and corporate rights to maximize wealth generation and the health and well-being of its population all though the 19th and 20th centuries. Should that not matter just to spend a little less on something and have no jobs? Or - do you force companies to produce locally, pay higher salaries, respect environmental protections, etc. If you follow the Chinese model, you enter a race to the bottom for everybody. Ideally Chinese salaries would raise, and China would absorb its own manufacturing capability internally; but they have not been able to adapt themselves to their own elevating economic situation, and that is damaging other countries (including the US).

Trump is the political result of the reaction to that reality.

>>515063975
Fuck America stop buying their shit. Buy European or source from smaller local companies.
Even by buying from those companies their cloud services send your details to America and with their (((interference))) with EU - US cross data transfer regulations lately you don't know or can trust what happens to your data anymore.
Stay local you can't go wrong.
Fuck Americans they aren't our friends

>>515064290
It sounds like you have an opportunity staring you in the face. Why don't you do something about the problems you observe? no bs.

>>515053733
>>515061801
Go dilate memeflag trannies

>>515060480
kek

>>515065162
I'm not saying this to be a smartass but a genuine question, how much money do you think it costs to build a factory capable of producing high quality engineering equipment and start a company to sell the goods you produce in it?

>>515053497 (OP)
more like golden shower age

>>515053497 (OP)
things are a little better but he could do more. i need more browns out of my area

>>515064304
quick question, do illegal immigrants occupy homes while theyre in this country.
follow up, are the homes deported with them?

>>515053859
I remember. Not even a word about it from migapedes when it was genuinely bizarre.
Melania was dressed like she was at a funeral as well.

>>515065776

I actually personally own an incredible machine/fabrication/electronics shop that I have built up since maybe 2000. I can't say I made much money with this stuff, but I do have an idea of the costs.

The answer is it strongly depends on your technical chops and/or how much you can collaborate with those that do and what it is that you want to make. As a practical example apple (I think) and HP started in people's garages. I started my shop with a bridgeport in my parent's garage. I can say with absolute certainty (having purchased commercial property too soon) to start up in a garage if you can use that model.

I normally buy surplus/used tools and repair them for example my haas vf1 was ~$5k (broken) which I repaired for probably < $400 in parts. But idk what you want to make.