Thread 515054738

is hitler talking about us here? sounds somewhat like it:

"Even to-day I must warn the members of our young Movement in the strongest possible terms to guard against the danger of falling into the snare of those who claim to work in ‘peace and quiet,’ for they are not only a whitelivered lot, but are also and always will be ignorant do-nothings. A man who is aware of certain happenings and knows that a certain danger threatens, and at the same time sees a certain remedy which can be employed against it, is in duty bound not to work in ‘peace and quiet,’ but to come into the open and publicly fight for the destruction of the evil and the acceptance of his own remedy. If he does not do so, then he is neglecting his duty and shows that he is weak in character and that he fails to act either because of his timidity, his indolence or his incompetence. Most of those who work in ‘peace and quiet,’ generally pretend to know God knows what. Not one of them is capable of any real achievement, but they keep on trying to fool the world with their antics. Though quite indolent, they try to create the impression that their peaceful, quiet work keeps them very busy. To put it briefly, they are sheer swindlers, political jobbers who feel chagrined by the honest work which others are doing. When you find one of these völkisch moths talking of the value of ‘peace and quiet,’ you may be sure that you are dealing with a fellow who does no productive work at all, but steals from others the fruits of their honest labour. In addition to all this one ought to note the arrogance and conceited impudence with which these obscurantist idlers try to tear to pieces the work of other people, criticising it with an air of superiority, and thus playing into the hands of the mortal enemy of our people."

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26, Stalag Edition

have to disagree with this part in particular:
>and at the same time sees a certain remedy which can be employed against it

>>515054738 (OP)
german original:

"Ich kann auch heute unsere junge Bewegung nicht genug davor warnen, in das Netz dieser sogenannten „stillen Arbeiter“ zu kommen. Sie sind nicht nur Feiglinge, sondern auch immer Nichtskönner und Nichtstuer. Ein Mensch, der eine Sache weiß, eine gegebene Gefahr kennt, die Möglichkeit einer Abhilfe mit seinen Augen sieht, hat die verdammte Pflicht und Schuldigkeit, nicht im „stillen“ zu arbeiten, sondern vor der Öffentlichkeit gegen das Übel auf- und für seine Heilung einzutreten. Tut er das nicht, dann ist er ein pflichtvergessener, elender Schwächling, der entweder aus Feigheit versagt oder aus Faulheit und Unvermögen. Der Großteil dieser „stillen Arbeiter“ aber tut meistens nur so, als ob er weiß Gott was wüßte. Sie alle können nichts, versuchen aber die ganze Welt mit ihren Kunststücken zu bemogeln; sie sind faul, erwecken aber mit ihrer behaupteten „stillen“ Arbeit den Eindruck einer ebenso enormen wie emsigen Tätigkeit, kurz und gut, sie sind Schwindler, politische Schiebernaturen, denen die ehrliche Arbeit der anderen verhaßt ist. Sobald solch ein völkischer Nachtfalter sich auf den Wert der „Stille“ beruft, kann man tausend gegen eins wetten, daß er in ihr nicht produziert, sondern stiehlt, stiehlt von den Früchten der Arbeit anderer. Dazu kommt noch die Arroganz, Einbildung und Frechheit, mit der dieses praktisch faulenzende, lichtscheue Gesindel über die Arbeit anderer herfällt, von oben herunter zu bekritteln versucht und so in Wahrheit den Todfeinden unseres Volkes hilft."

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26

>>515054738 (OP)
He was right, I’m sorry Hitler. I’m a lazy do nothing faggot.

Hitler was a moron. A lot of the actions Hitler took cost millions of lives. If Hitler had just been quiet and inactive around 1938 then many, many Germans and other Europeans would have survived. Hitler was a man of action. He always needed the spotlight. He was like a circus performer. When there is no crisis, make one. When there is peace, start a war. Hitler was a great politician, but a horrible strategist. And that is why democracy sucks. Democracy elevates charismatic charlatans like Hitler to ultimate power. Germany had plenty of wise heads, but they were overruled by democracy, by the mob rule they romanticize as "the will of the people" to die in a Russian trench for no reason at all. The longer we stay in democracy, the more danger we are in. We need a strong hereditary ruling class that fosters stability and does not take wild gambles.

>>515055846
What England does not achieve in this war, it will strive for in a second, and if necessary, in a third and fourth; it will certainly not give up, and peace will be just as welcome and useful to its goal as war
[...]
If self-abasement is to be regarded as suicide, then the humiliation of another can also be planned in such a way that it amounts to murder: that is what England intends to do to Germany. It does not want to kill, but to extinguish the inner light of life; to wean the nation off ambition - and with it its honour; to break the wings of its will - and thereby rob it of its dignity.

[...]
It is known - I hope at least - that it has finally succeeded in conveying to the Germans the news that leading circles have long resisted spreading - it is therefore known that Germany's enemies are pursuing the plan - ideal and power - to finally break Germany's strength; [...] the coming peace should serve to complete this work. In this way the Germans are to be crushed - so that they never rise again; the Germans can then continue to serve the ruling English and Americans as industrious slaves as scholars, waiters, chemists, etc. Our enemies see the Germans as the born destroyers of their method of civilization, the all-powerful Mammon, and they know that this is a fight to the death! England is pursuing [...] the plan to become master of the world, to create a world monopoly for itself: it has destroyed or weakened into submission every state that threatened this plan; now it is Germany's turn; the hotheads demand its complete destruction, the leading politicians declare that they will be content with permanent weakening, with the reduction of Germany to the level of a Central European Spain.

Houston Stewart Chamberlain, England & Germany, 1914

>>515056583
german original:
Was England in diesem Kriege nicht erreicht, wird es in einem zweiten, und wenn es not tut, in einem dritten und vierten erstreben ; es läßt sicher nicht nach, und Friede wird seinem Ziele ebenso willkommen und dienlich sein wie Krieg
[...]
Ist die Selbsterniedrigung gleich Selbstmord zu achten, so kann auch das Erniedrigen eines Andern derart geplant sein, daß es einem Mord gleichkommt: das ist's, was England an Deut schland vorhat. Töten will es nicht, aber das innere Lebenslicht auslöschen; der Nation den Ehrgeiz abgewöhnen — und mit ihm die Ehre; ihr den Flügel schlag des Wollens brechen - und damit die Würde rauben.
[...]
Man weiß - ich hoffe wenigstens, daß es endlich gelungen ist, den Deutschen die Kunde zu vermitteln, gegen deren Verbreitung führende Kreise sich lange sträubten — man weiß also, daß Deutschlands Feinde den Plan Ideal und Macht - verfolgen, die Kraft Deutschlands endgültig zu brechen; [...] der Vollendung dieses Werkes soll der kommende Friede dienen. Auf diese Weise soll das Deutsche zermalmt werden — auf daß es nie wieder erstehe; der Deutsche mag dann weiter als emsiger Sklave den herrschenden Engländern und Amerikanern als Gelehrter, Kellner, Chemiker usw. dienen. So genau empfinden unsere Feinde das Deutsche als den geborenen Zerstörer ihrer Zivilisationsmethode des allbeherrschenden Mammons, so genau wissen sie, daß es einen Kampf auf Leben und Tod gilt! England verfolgt [...] den Plan, Herr der Welt zu werden, sich ein Weltmonopol zu schaffen: es hat jeden Staat zerstört oder bis zur Gefügigkeit geschwächt, der diesen Plan gefährdete ; jetzt ist Deutschland an der Reihe ; die Heiß sporne verlangen de s sen gänzliche Zerstörung, die leitenden Politiker erklären, sich mit der dauernden Schwächung begnügen zu wollen, mit der Herabsetzung Deutschlands auf den Stand eines mitteleuropäi schen Spaniens.

Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Deutschland und England

>>515056583
Let's take a looksie at a world where Hitler does not invade Poland.

>Britain and France collapse within ten years due to colonial revolts
>If the USSR invades Germany then Britain and France fund Germany to stop the Reds from conquering all of Europe
>The USA has no reason to go to Europe at all

This is what everyone was anticipating in the 1930s. Only Hitler was not a professional statesman. He was a random peasant. If he just had some patience then France and Britain would have collapsed. Even after his invasion of Poland he could have made peace. The French and the British did not want to fight. They had been wrecked by the first world war, they were democracies, and their empires were completely overextended. They spent the entire 30s begging the Indians not to declare independence. Hitler the retard saw this weakness and got greedy and got raped.

>>515057491
>Britain and France suddenly are free of jewish rule cuz reasons
you aren't as intelligent as you imagine

>>515057491
lol didn't even get to
>he could have made peace. The French and the British did not want to fight
If only Germany had known that, maybe they would have tried for peace one, two, maybe even a dozen times ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

>>515057491
>Only Hitler was not a professional statesman. He was a random peasant.
classic anglo elitism, leads to inbreeding because (King Tutankhamun genetic defects, habsbourgs also, lets not forget the jews)
>muh chosen genetics
while the german model is to let everyone who is capable to lead, have a chance at a leadership position. national socialism keeps the promise, capitalism makes, true chance to live to ones full potantial, ie vertical socio-economic mobility.

veit bach, the founder of the bach dynasty of dozens of gifted musicians spanning 2 centuries was a simple baker, in the anglo cast system he would not even had a chance to raise himself up from a peasant occupation & send his children to music school. elitism is the death of innovation, an entierly inept leader can be born into a noble/kingly bloodline talented in all political dealings & vice versa (throughout history there are many examples of a monarch dying prematurely & his err, being a teenage son having to take over states affairs with catastrophic consequences as one might imagine). the monarchies fell because of such dogmatic wordview.
blood is such a great mystery, many great men can come from the humblest of families. in seemingly unremarkable genetics might lie dormant great potential.

one thinks about all the elite shooles in england that one can only get in by having the wealth and/or connections to influential individuals of authority.

>>515054738 (OP)
And what do you suggest?

>>515057491
>and then everybody clapped
retard, bolsheviks wanted war, marx announced it in das kapital, 1919 rosa luxemburg attempted an uprising in germany, that failed so military power from the east had to help out. russia had indeed expansionalist ambitions, after the war the annexed neighboring sattelite states as a consolation prise because they did not have enough manpower left from the formidable german army exhausting them on the eastern front. the numbers say it all.

>>515060135
dont know, just throwing it in here to do some brainstorming. how to even judge the current situation, is any kind of activism in vain since the punishments for nationalism, antisemitism & 'racism' became so harsh one would end up in prison constantly. read below, hitler too had issues with expressing nationalistic sentiments in publicn even in his times:

>>515060359
"In common with my army comrades, I had forgotten such phrases as, “That can’t be done,” or “That is not possible,” or “We ought not to take such a risk; it is too dangerous.” The whole undertaking was, of its very nature, dangerous. At that time there were many parts of Germany where it would have been absolutely impossible to invite people openly to a national meeting that dared to make a direct appeal to the masses. Those who attended such meetings were usually dispersed and driven away with broken heads. It certainly did not call for any great qualities to be able to do things in that way. The largest so-called bourgeois mass meetings were accustomed to dissolve, and those in attendance would scuttle away like rabbits frightened by a dog, as soon as a dozen communists appeared on the scene. The Reds used to pay little attention to those bourgeois organisations where only babblers talked. They recognised the inner triviality of such associations much better than the members themselves and therefore felt that they need not be afraid of them. On the other hand, however, they were all the more determined to use every possible means of annihilating, once and for all, any movement that appeared to them to be dangerous. The most effective means which they always employed in such cases were terrorism and brute force."

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26, Stalag Edition

>>515060418
"Ich war damals selber noch Soldat. [...] Auch ich hatte das Wort verlernt: Das geht nicht, oder das wird nicht gehen; das darf man nicht wagen, das ist noch zu gefährlich usw. Denn gefährlich war die Sache natürlich. Im Jahre 1920 war in vielen Gegenden Deutschlands eine nationale Versammlung, die es wagte, ihren Appell an die breiten Massen zu richten und öffentlich zu ihrem Besuche einzuladen, einfach unmöglich. Die Teilnehmer an einer solchen wurden mit blutigen Köpfen auseinandergeschlagen und verjagt. Viel gehörte freilich zu einem solchen Kunststück nicht: pflegte doch die größte sogenannte bürgerliche Massenversammlung vor einem Dutzend Kommunisten auseinanderzulaufen und auszureißen wie die Hasen vor dem Hunde. Doch so wenig die Roten von einem solchen bürgerlichen Trätäklub Notiz nahmen, dessen innere Harmlosigkeit und damit Ungefährlichkeit für sich selbst sie besser kannten als dessen Mitglieder selber, so entschlossen waren sie aber, eine Bewegung mit allen Mitteln zu erledigen, die ihnen gefährlich schien – das Wirksamste in solchen Fällen bildete jedoch zu allen Zeiten der Terror, die Gewalt."

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26

>>515054738 (OP)
wait I have seen this before
now I remember

>>515060002
Well, both democracy and aristocracy can dysfunction, of course, no system is perfect. And yet with aristocracy you have a caste of people bred and trained for centuries to be rulers. Look around at your average German. Do they seem like someone you would want to have a discussion with about war, diplomacy, economic, foreign policy? Much less the women. Maybe democracy can work, if it is only male, and only males of a certain caliber. But I doubt it. The intrinsic feature of democracy is instability. One year the USA is pro-Ukraine, then the next year a new party is in and the USA is anti-Ukraine. There is no steady hand at the wheel. And in Hitler's case particularly we can see, especially in Speer's memoir, how Hitler was influenced by his artistic mindset. He was a showman. He lived for spectacle. He invaded Russia because it would be epic. Reasonable men knew that the British and French empires were collapsing. They also knew that the West needed a strong Germany to stop the Soviets from supporting communist revolutions throughout Europe. The only person who benefited from the Nazis constantly invading countries was Hitler. He needed to create crises so that he could maintain power. There was no clear succession, and his grip on power rested on his "myth." His legitimacy came not from a thousand years of tradition, but from all his big victories with Czechia and Austria. He wanted to keep recreating these victories forever to ensure he would stay popular forever. The sin is his willingness to toy with the fate of nations just to achieve his own dreams of personal grandiosity. Germany would have been much better if he let it rest in 1938.

>>515060359
okay cool
but in 2025 there not million of jews in europe.
there are millions of muslims and others

>>515060214
>muh angellike russia just tending to their lawn, out of the blue evil hitler unleashes hell. russia dindu nuffin.
the winners write history.

>>515054738 (OP)
based kraut doing a deep dive in Adolf's writings on a Sunday.

>>515054738 (OP)
Reminder that this jewish puppet forced ALL 10-YEAR OLDS to swear to obey him blindly and even die for him
Not for Germany. Not for the Volk. Not for their family and loved ones. For him. And they did, in the millions
Nazism was an anti-Aryan, kiked death cult led by a judas goat, and everyone pushing it is either a useful idiot or a vicious kike. No exceptions

>>515060863
Picking on Hitler fans feels a bit like kicking a kitten. I think there may be some value in letting the matter rest because for white nationalists Hitler has left the realm of history and become a mythological character with a lot of spiritual value.

>>515060523
>bred and trained for centuries to be rulers.
every child is unique in that way, you can have individuals born into noble houses that have no interest in politics whatsoever. terrible rulers assumed to be noble by birth turning out to be wholly disinterested in state affairs. certainly, had hitler have a son who he raised to be his successor, due to the proximity to living in the atmosphere of leadership he would certainly improve his chances.

"This crisis of our time can only be resolved, believe me, through a true leadership and thus leader state. One thing is quite clear: that the purpose of such leadership lies in attempting, through natural selection in all areas of life, to always recruit from the people those people who are suited to such leadership. And that is also the most beautiful and, in my eyes, most Germanic democracy. For what could be more beautiful for a people than the awareness: From our ranks, the most capable person can rise to the highest position, regardless of origin, birth, or anything else. They only need to have the ability. We strive to seek out capable people. What they were, what their parents were, what their little mothers were, is completely irrelevant. If they are capable, every path is open to them. They just have to be willing to take responsibility, even then."

Hitler's speech to the district leaders at Vogelsang, 1937

>>515060523
>And yet with aristocracy you have a caste of people bred and trained for centuries to be rulers.
Let's do this with Ai then. I mean like literal dogs. They are forced to rule and we evade our individual responsibilities by flaying them.

>>515060863
I think there is everything to like about the fuhrer principle, the idea of a hierarchy with a ruler on top anointed by God. The problem is Hitler only derived his legitimacy from victories. Without those he was just a random peasant. He was exactly like Napoleon. When the victories dried up he had to go and make some new ones to ensure his popularity, because he knew if they dried up the people would dispose of him. So he got into progressively worse and worse situations to try and earn a victory. He started out by winning an unlikely election.. ended up declaring war on the entire world simultaneously. Very similar to Napoleon.

>>515060135
are we just letting time working in our favour, letting conditions escalate until even the braindead normies finally get a grip on reality & strike then when the soil is fertile & ears are open for our message?

Hitler:

'But have patience! The more quickly we approach Bolshevism, the more glorious we will become again. And one fine day it will be the English and the French who are the scoundrels.'
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Hitler:

'Aber nur Geduld! Je rascher wir uns dem Bolschewismus nähern desto ruhmvoller werden wir wieder. Und eines schönen Tages werden die Engländer und Franzosen die Lumpen sein.'

Der Bolschewismus Von Moses Bis Lenin / Bolshevism From Moses To Lenin

Why did the Fuhrer turn against the nationalistic Jews who loved Germany? I don't really understand why it was all done the way it was done.

There are many things Hitler did that seem to be good but then he went too far and blew it. Of course, I say this as a Jew myself. I believe his sentiments on nationalism and certainly the comments in this thread reflect a firm and results-oriented mind. My issue is hurting your own nationals because they belong to the wrong faith group. Hitler could have readily weaponized the Jews and leveraged them along ideological lines that made Jew turn against Jew for the ultimate ends of the Reich.

>>515060523
>democracy

"That is the reason why this brand of democracy has become a tool in the hands of that race which, because of its secret aims, must shun the light, as it always has done and always will do. Only a Jew can praise an institution which is as corrupt and as false as himself. As a contrast to this kind of democracy we have the Germanic democracy, which is a true democracy, for here the leader is freely chosen and is obliged to accept full responsibility for all his actions and omissions. The problems to be dealt with are not put to the vote of the majority, but are decided by the individual and as a guarantee of the sincerity of his decisions, he pledges all he has in the world and even his life. The objection may be raised here, that under such conditions, it would be very difficult to find a man who would be ready to devote himself to so fateful a task. The answer to that objection is as follows: We thank God that the inner spirit of our German democracy will of itself prevent the chance careerist, who may be intellectually worthless and a moral twister, from coming by devious ways to a position in which he may govern his fellow-citizens. The fear of assuming such far-reaching responsibilities, under Germanic democracy, will scare off the ignorant and the weak. Should it happen that such a person tried to creep in surreptitiously, it will be easy enough to identify him and apostrophize him ruthlessly, somewhat thus, 'Be off, you scoundrel. Do not soil these steps with your feet; because these are the steps that lead to the portals of the Pantheon of History, and they are not meant for sneaks but for heroes.'"

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26, Stalag Edition

>>515061267
The leader of Germany should have been some career military officer who was well acquainted with the facts of war and logistics, not a guy who is really good at kissing babies and making promises

>>515061769
german original:

"Daher ist diese Art von Demokratie auch das Instrument derjenigen Rasse geworden, die ihren inneren Zielen nach die Sonne zu scheuen hat, jetzt und in allen Zeiten der Zukunft. Nur der Jude kann eine Einrichtung preisen, die schmutzig und unwahr ist wie er selber. Dem steht gegenüber die wahrhaftige germanische Demokratie der freien Wahl des Führers, mit dessen Verpflichtung zur vollen Übernahme aller Verantwortung für sein Tun und Lassen. In ihr gibt es keine Abstimmung einer Majorität zu einzelnen Fragen, sondern nur die Bestimmung eines einzigen, der dann mit Vermögen und Leben für seine Entscheidung einzutreten hat. Wenn man mit dem Einwand kommen wird, daß unter solchen Voraussetzungen sich schwerlich jemand bereitfinden dürfte, seine Person einer so riskanten Aufgabe zu widmen, so muß darauf nur eines geantwortet werden: Gott sei gedankt, darin liegt ja eben der Sinn einer germanischen Demokratie, daß nicht der nächstbeste unwürdige Streber und moralische Drückeberger auf Umwegen zur Regierung seiner Volksgenossen kommt, sondern daß schon durch die Größe der zu übernehmenden Verantwortung Nichtskönner und Schwächlinge zurückgeschreckt werden. Sollte sich aber dennoch einmal ein solcher Bursche einzustehlen versuchen, dann kann man ihn leichter finden und rücksichtslos anfahren: Hinweg, feiger Lump! Ziehe den Fuß zurück, du beschmutzest die Stufen; denn der Vorderaufstieg in das Pantheon der Geschichte ist nicht für Schleicher da, sondern für Helden!"

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26

>>515061057
Not a bad take, but I believe the association with Hitler &co prevents higher quality Whites from joining the ranks, and this damage trumps the spiritual value of the false idol
>>515061346
>everything to like about the fuhrer principle,
No, it's clearly un-Germanic and even un-European, we reached our highest points as political entities with shared leadership, sometimes under the primus inter pares principle: ancient Greeks, Roman Republic, Dutch Republic, British Empire

>>515061747
>Why did the Fuhrer turn against the nationalistic Jews who loved Germany?
no such things, jews are always jews first, all else second.

you must imagine the individual jew as a nerve ending of the whole jewish organism. or cancer cells sprinkled over the healthy goy nation organism. the jews are a race with perhaps the stronges ingroup preference amongst them all, like locusts upon the world, not just some american locusts or the middle eastern ones or the well fed wealthy ones, they all behave the exact same wherevern they are.

your friendly neighbor, hardworking colleague or cornershop owner, though never seen a synagogue from the inside, met any other jew in his life aside from his parents or peaked into torah & talmud will hardly allow his holy holocaust narrative be questioned, defend jewry as a whole against accusations of crimes against mankind throughout history & in all cases oppose a racially homogenous white ethnostate. the jews dont need to meet & discuss their next subversion step, its all race consciousness & a keen instinct on what is beneficial to the collective whereever each individual jew might find himself in the world.
take any topic in politics or foreign interventions of our white countries, every subject is discussed from many perspectives & actions criticized & condemned or praised, even wholly retarded opinions are allowed to be freely voiced & corrected, we have a vivid conversation culture & dont fear to show flaws in each others behaviour, not so with the jews, they always protect their own & their sacred victim-narratives against any attack from the goyim, further no crime against the goyim is forbidden for them. its always them vs the world.

think of secret agents, they might infiltrate some drug cartel, work for years to acquire all the necessary names & connections to drug manufacturers & suppliers, even be the best workers for the group until the day they betray everyone.

>>515061836
The Romans had a dictator in times of crisis that would then restore power to the Republic after the crisis.

>>515054738 (OP)
Different time different tactics.
The jews got in through "Peace and Quiet" well not the peace part but 100% the Quiet part

>>515061908
I am living proof to the contrary but I understand your point. I was actually advocating a white ethnostate at synagogue yesterday saying that the ethno states of Japan and Israel are inherently good things for a national people to have access to.

I am an American. I will not choose the state of Israel over the United States. I will choose to serve God, yes, but the holy land has its own rules and I don't live there. If I am to glorify the God of Israel, that means behaving in a way that makes others respect me and my god through meritorious deeds.

>>515061797
jews still seething all those decades later, politics is not rocket science, in detail very much so but hitler got the broad strokes very right, estimated the german people correctly, turned his nation around in a few short years, thats willpower & being gifted in leadership matters. you make it statecraft look like some kind of arcane magic. even a mediocre intellect paired with a strong character & willpower often leads the most prolific armies to victory. history is full of such examples, especially in war, only the simple succeed.

>>515062269
"Through its own experience, Social Democracy learned the value of strength and for that reason it attacks mostly those in whom it senses real mettle, which is indeed a very rare possession. On the other hand, it praises every weakling among its adversaries, more or less cautiously according to the measure of his mental qualities, known or assumed. They have less fear of a man of genius who lacks will-power, than of a vigorous character of mediocre intelligence, and at the same time they highly commend those who are devoid of both intelligence and will-power."

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26, Stalag Edition
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"Da die Sozialdemokratie den Wert der Kraft aus eigener Erfahrung am besten kennt, läuft sie auch am meisten Sturm gegen diejenigen, in deren Wesen sie etwas von diesem ohnehin so seltenen Stoffe wittert. Umgekehrt lobt sie jeden Schwächling der anderen Seite, bald vorsichtig, bald lauter, je nach der erkannten oder vermuteten geistigen Qualität. Sie fürchtet ein ohnmächtiges, willenloses Genie weniger als eine Kraftnatur, wenn auch bescheidenen Geistes. Am eindringlichsten empfiehlt sie Schwächlinge an Geist und Kraft zusammen."

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26

>>515061962
In times of crisis, perhaps it may be useful, but it's also how the Romans ended up with the Empire, and the Empire didn't last two centuries before it was captured and destroyed by their semitic arch enemies
The risk of pure authoritarianism is simply too great, even in times of crisis

>>515062404
Egalitarianism creates a crisis of authority. Look at Mexico, inner cities in the West like London or Detroit. Aristocracy keeps power in the hands of a few. One of the most horrifying aspects of egalitarianism is how many Indian, Chinese, Arab (or whatever) spies are permitted into an egalitarian country's government? We now face the prospect of being bought by a foreign power. That is why it is important power in a country should be kept firmly in the hands of the leading men of the race, which is what in US and UK democracy the original system was, before the constant expansion of the franchise. Democracy has a very horrible track record over the past two centuries, and everything that was warned about mob rule has come to pass, the complete disempowerment of the original ruling class by a headless mob which is easily preyed upon by foreigners.

>>515060002
Sorry, certainly Tutankhamun would be utilizing the cane with his other hand, no?

>>515062212
Correct me if I am wrong. You are outing yourself as a "jewish-american". Yet you are saying you will not choose the state of Israel over the United States. Will you choose the children of Israel over the United States?

>>515062212
certainly, making it about states & not race, classic deception.

The Jewish State has never been delimited in space. It has been spread all over the world, without any frontiers whatsoever, and has always been constituted from the membership of one race exclusively. That is why the Jews have always formed a State within the State. One of the most ingenious tricks ever devised has been that of sailing the Jewish ship of state under the flag of religion and thus securing that tolerance which Aryans are always ready to grant to different religious faiths. The Mosaic Law is really nothing else than the doctrine of the preservation of the Jewish race and, therefore, includes all spheres of sociological, political and economic science which have a bearing on the main end in view.

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26, Stalag Edition
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Der jüdische Staat war nie in sich räumlich begrenzt, sondern universell unbegrenzt auf den Raum, aber beschränkt auf die Zusammenfassung einer Rasse. Daher bildete dieses Volk auch immer einen Staat innerhalb der Staaten. Es gehört zu den genialsten Tricks, die jemals erfunden worden sind, diesen Staat als „Religion“ segeln zu lassen und ihn dadurch der Toleranz zu versichern, die der Arier dem religiösen Bekenntnis immer zuzubilligen bereit ist. Denn tatsächlich ist die mosaische Religion nichts anderes als eine Lehre der Erhaltung der jüdischen Rasse. Sie umfaßt daher auch nahezu alle soziologischen, politischen sowie wirtschaftlichen Wissensgebiete, die hierfür überhaupt nur in Frage zu kommen vermögen.

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26

>>515062212
>religious jews
another meme, jews are materialists, your writings are about effectively managing worldly affairs, aquire wealth & power.

"It is always, therefore, a question of outward experience, not of inner; the conceptions are always thoroughly concrete, material; as Montefiore assures us, even in the advanced Jewish religion there is nothing which the dullest might not immediately understand and fathom to its uttermost depth; as soon as a man has a feeling of a mystery, as soon as he, for instance, supposes that there can be anything symbolical in the history of the creation, he is a heretic and a gallows-bird. Even the utterly materialised history of creation given in the book of Genesis is so manifestly alien and borrowed that it remains totally isolated amid the Israelitish tradition and without actual connection with it. ‡ The will in fact gives little rope to the understanding and the imagination. So it is that the Semite who has begun to doubt at once becomes an atheist; there is in any case no secret, no mystery: if Allah is not the creator, then must matter be; as an explanation of the world there is scarcely the shadow of a difference between the two views, for in the case of neither does the Semite feel himself in the presence of an inexplicable riddle, a superhuman mystery."

FOUNDATIONS OF THE 19TH CENTURY, HOUSTON STEWART CHAMBERLAIN

>>515062999
german original:

"Immer also handelt es sich um äussere Erfahrung, nicht um innere; immer sind die Vorstellungen durchaus konkrete, materielle; wie Montefiore uns versichert, selbst in der ausgebildeten jüdischen Religion giebt es nichts, was nicht der dümmste Mensch sofort verstünde und bis auf den Boden ausdenken könnte; sobald Einer ein Mysterium ahnt, sobald er z. B. in der Schöpfungsgeschichte Symbolik vermutet, ist er ein Ketzer und verfällt dem Henker; selbst die möglichst materialisierte Schöpfungsgeschichte des Buches Genesis ist ein so offenbar fremdes, entlehntes Gut, dass sie inmitten der israelitischen Tradition vollkommen isoliert und ohne wirkliche Beziehung auf sie bleibt. 3) Der Wille führt eben den Verstand und die Phantasie an kurzen Ketten. Daher schlägt der ungläubig gewordene Semit sofort in den Atheisten um; ein Geheimnis, ein Mysterium gab es ja ohnehin nicht: ist nicht Allah der Schöpfer, so ist es die Materie; als Welterklärung ist zwischen beiden Annahmen kaum der Schatten eines Unterschiedes, denn bei keiner von beiden fühlt sich der Semit in Gegenwart eines unlösbaren Rätsels, eines übermenschlichen Geheimnisses."

DIE GRUNDLAGEN DES XIX. JAHRHUNDERTS HOUSTON STEWART CHAMBERLAIN

>>515062663
>Egalitarianism creates a crisis of authority.
Egalitarianism is fine and even necessary among free White men, and I won't even consider you spiritually White if you disagree
>But Mexico, Detroit India Arabs China
ONLY Aryan culture is amenable to shared power, this was once a fundamental truth of all political philosophy. Authoritarianism was literally called Eastern tyranny, because it is

>>515060523
>The intrinsic feature of democracy is instability.
lol, thats putting it mildly, core iussues like jewsish influence, racial differences arent allowed to be discussed, so democracy is but a scam, the central issues of our nations arent part of any party programme, you cannot vote the jews out of government, you cannot vote to close the birders because those topics are in unassailable.
>what? the jews have suffered enough its just common sense to help them, especially here in germany we have a duty to support them wherever we can
>what are you saiying? middle easterners arent compatible with our culture, dont assimilate & will not ever be able to maintain complex systems? thats an antiquated stance & blatant racism, its part of human right charta to help everyone where we c an & not apply such antiquated barbaric discriminatory practices, we dont even have to discuss such matters, there is no debate about such established standards of the european way of life.
>excuse me? women have been suffering for millenia under the patriarchy, its just a given that we encourage them to take jobs by enforcing 50/50 quotas even though they mught be less qualified for any given opening, we owe it to them due to our barbaric masculine ways of those dark centuries.

>>515060523
>One year the USA is pro-Ukraine, then the next year a new party is in and the USA is anti-Ukraine.

>>515060523
>He was a showman. He lived for spectacle.
he overhauled the economy & liberated the german people from jewish international debt based banking system, incredible how you focus on some vanity aspect of hitlers leadership style.
also the simple man longs for spectacle & belonging, the masses love their worldly bliss & flex of power, hence military parades as a long-held public-relation tradition almost everywhere in the world.

>>515064298
more on the nature of the masses as an interesting sidenote:

'The great majority of a nation is so feminine in its character and outlook that its thought and conduct are ruled by sentiment rather than by sober reasoning. This sentiment, however, is not complex, but simple and consistent. It is not highly differentiated, but has only the negative and positive notions of love and hatred, right and wrong, truth and falsehood. Its notions are never partly this and partly that. Those responsible for English propaganda, especially understood this in a marvellous degree and put what they understood into practice. They allowed no half-measures, which might have given rise to doubt. [...] The mentality of the broad masses is accessible only to what is strong and uncompromising. Like woman whose inner sensibilities are not under the sway of abstract reasoning, but are always subject to the influence of a vague emotional longing for the strength that completes her being, and who would rather bow to the strong man than dominate the weakling—in like manner the masses of the people prefer the ruler to the suppliant, and are well-led witha stronger sense of mental security by a teaching that brooks no rival, than by one which offers them a liberal freedom. They have very little idea of how to use that freedom, and thus they are prone to feel that they have been abandoned. They feel very little shame at being terrorised intellectually and they are scarcely conscious of the fact that their freedom as human beings is impudently abused, nor have they the slightest suspicion of the intrinsic fallacy of the whole doctrine. They see only the ruthless force and brutality of its determined utterances, to which they always submit.'

Adolf Hilter, Mein Kampf Stalag Edition, 1925/26

>>515064376
german original:

'Das Volk ist in seiner überwiegenden Mehrheit so feminin veranlagt und eingestellt, daß weniger nüchterne Überlegung als vielmehr gefühlsmäßige Empfindung sein Denken und Handeln bestimmt. Diese Empfindung aber ist nicht kompliziert, sondern sehr einfach und geschlossen. Sie gibt hierbei nicht viel Differenzierungen, sondern ein Positiv oder ein Negativ, Liebe oder Haß, Recht oder Unrecht, Wahrheit oder Lüge, niemals aber halb so und halb so oder teilweise usw. Das alles hat besonders die englische Propaganda in der wahrhaft genialsten Weise verstanden - und berücksichtigt. Dort gab es wirklich keine Halbheiten, die etwa zu Zweifeln hätten anregen können. [...] Die Psyche der breiten Masse ist nicht empfänglich für alles Halbe und Schwache. Gleich dem Weibe, dessen seelisches Empfinden weniger durch Gründe abstrakter Vernunft bestimmt wird als durch solche einer undefinierbaren, gefühlsmäßigen Sehnsucht nach ergänzender Kraft, und das sich deshalb lieber dem Starken beugt als den Schwächling beherrscht, liebt auch die Masse mehr den Herrscher als den Bittenden und fühlt sich im Innern mehr befriedigt durch eine Lehre, die keine andere neben sich duldet, als durch die Genehmigung liberaler Freiheit; sie weiß mit ihr auch meist nur wenig anzufangen und fühlt sich sogar leicht verlassen. Die Unverschämtheit ihrer geistigen Terrorisierung kommt ihr ebensowenig zum Bewußtsein wie die empörende Mißhandlung ihrer menschlichen Freiheit, ahnt sie doch den inneren Irrsinn der ganzen Lehre in keiner Weise. So sieht sie nur die rücksichtslose Kraft und Brutalität ihrer zielbewußten Äußerungen, der sie sich endlich immer beugt.'

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26

>>515060523
>He invaded Russia because it would be epic.

>>515064376
>>515064410
Just listening to this austrian mutted midwit and kike puppet talk denigratingly about European people makes my blood boil
He didn't deserve Germans' loyalty, and I bet you aren't one

>>515064644
>the jew will always tell you what hitler did ton russia but never why.

>>515064720
anything of worth to add to the discussions? all i hear is impotent raging without actually addressing the correct conclusions hitler made observing the bahaviour of the multitudes.

He's right. Unfortunately I feel nothing in common with Americans, even other white Americans. Had I been born in Germany (where my family immigrated from in 1800's I certainly would care politically. Unfortunately my family are cowards who left their homeland to live in this shithole for God knows what reasoning. I would probably join the German military if they ever decided to open it up to foreigners, which frankly I hope they don't.

>>515065005
Fake letter, even a fake jew (Baruch Levy)
Don't fall for this easy-to-spot well poison, dumbass
>>515065210
Hitler never actually believe in the German people, the passage proves that beyond all doubt

>>515060863
dumb nigger, all of them fought because the felt they are doing it for the volksgemeinschaft. the oath is just some formality, germans fought with fiery enthusiasm not to please hitler.

>child soldiers in the wehrmacht

seeing jewish nightmare world today i would, if i were to travel back in time, gladly fight against the commie manace even at a young age. one is sentient enough at this point to know whats going on & knowing now how much was at stake many here would have fought with fiery enthusiasm aswell. how much would many here sacrifice to have a chance to go back & try to change things?

>Joseph Goebbels condecorates 16 years old Willi Hübner with the Iron Cross at Lauban, Silesia. March 9, 1945. Willi served as a messenger in the Führer Grenadier Division

Willi Hübner, probably the most famous child soldier in the german military in ww2 turned out to be just fine as an adult, below is a documentary covering his story (in german)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lwS2dDka3w

>>515066004
>all of them fought because the felt they are doing it for the volksgemeinschaft. the oath is just some formality, germans fought with fiery enthusiasm not to please hitler.
Cope all you want, but Nazis never even got more than about 20% of Germans to vote for them
Joining the Hiltler Jugend was mandatory for boys 10-18, and so was this literal death cult oath
>B-but they really wanted to die in the Russian snow because of some retarded Directive from their drugged up Fuhrer
Keep coping retard

>>515066456
>Nazis never even got more than about 20% of Germans to vote for them
Lmao

>>515065680
>Hitler never actually believe in the German people, the passage proves that beyond all doubt
you lack the aristocratic perspective, sometimes you have to force people to accept their own fortune. thats the same with parenting, no one ever faults a father for applying gentle pressure onto a child to lead it to greener pastures. children are chaotic & were one to allow them to anything they want it would lead to dreadful outcomes & failed lives & so the people just react in an emotional way when they see the sad nigger eyes & want to open the gates wide to let them all in & help everyone while dooming the nation, but they dont care, the masses are emotionally drived & focus on satiating their most immediate desire. the jew of course allows all the primitive instincts of the dead weight masses, knowing full well that it will lead to destruction of every nation, letting everyone have a say in politics, the result is always irrational decisions of the democratic mob based on volatile sentiments.

what you call condecending is merely reason overriding chaotic emotion.

>>515060863
The seething dutch-jew rabbi at it again.

>>515055846
Again comes the amerifat with his Hollywood-sanitized understanding of history, thinking that it could have been avoid if Hitler had just been a good goy and let the communist machinery steamroll his nation and the Jews get even further ahead than what they are today. Yes, great idea mister amerifat, why don't you go drink a slurpee and eat a hamburger or something you worthless sack of fecal matter.

based thread

>>515054738 (OP)
Based as fuck,German brother.
Admire your nation, capable of producing genuine fighters liké Hitler !
WE, Goyim,need another uprisal right now!

>>515055846
Our country is going to be irrelevant soon. It makes me happy that people like you will live to see the myth of psychotic American exceptionalism crumble. This country is just Brazil with more billionaires. The world cannot know peace until people like you have been thoroughly humbled. I'm fluent in German and quickly becoming so in Chinese. I suggest you learn Spanish and hebrew if you intend to cling to this sinking tumor of a country. I will now spit on you s.

>>515066816
Best election result was 13.7 million votes dumbass, out of a population of 67 million
>>515066828
>you lack the aristocratic perspective
Kinda rich coming from someone shilling for an uneducated peasant of dubious ancestry
>>515066886
You'll never be White, roach

>>515060523
>They also knew that the West needed a strong Germany to stop the Soviets from supporting communist revolutions throughout Europe.
so why didnt the soviets continue their conquest after germany had falled huh? why did the anglos support russia with equipment & resources? & why did the anglos even join the war to begin with? over poland? well why tf did they just gave it to russia after the war?

>>515066886
Based Bulgarian brother watching for Kike rats in thé thread...

>>515067512
the english had no business being in this war to begin with, its some personal enmity towards germany, the sea faring merchand envies all self made, self reliant nations because he feels useless, the english could not stand someone mocking them by their mere existence. the british have plundered the colonies for centuries, hording the riches. through cheating the aquired their wealth, they would not simply clear the playing field for some newcomer rising star that was germany. same reason btw why the jew hates the goyim amongst other causes, the slave owner needs his slaves not the other way around, the jew feels useless & thus constantly has feelings of inferiority, the goyim know how to manage the world, the jew is always just cheating his way through with his wealth.

The whole "Hitler could have avoided it if only x" Schtick is similar to the "The Holocaust happened, but it wasn't as bad as they portray it". No you cowardly faggot, the holocaust didn't happen and Hitler and Germany acted perfectly reasonably considering the situation. In fact the world would have been way worse of had it not been for that Austrian fellow and the sacrifices made by the nations that followed him and they know it which is why they still seethe about the whole thing, it was a confirmation that their plans are destined to fail which they just cant accept.

>>515067086
>vulgar, scatterbrained peasant drivel
You're proving his point desu

>>515067899
Anglos are just insecure jewish lapdogs. They live for oversocialized social fuckfuck bullshit games. They literally sell themselves, their brothers, and their entire empire out for a pat on the head socially and some shekels. They see Germany producing more steel than them and fly into manlet rage and make excuses for worldwide war over it. When all is said and done the anglos need to be considered as not European. Okay maybe the Irish are fine, but that's it.

>>515067987
Yeah Germany today would be multiple times worse without Hitler, even despite him losing. Look at bongland, and they "won" the war.

>>515067432
>>you lack the aristocratic perspective
>Kinda rich coming from someone shilling for an uneducated peasant of dubious ancestry
genetics is still a murky field, the germans too had to live a simple life only mastering their surroundings in the cold north until technological innovation allowed them to excel at culture & the arts. here too potential lies dormant that waits for an opportunity to shine. after the gutenberg printing press was invented we experienced a cambrian explosion of creativity. according to your train of thought we could never become anything but "primitive" barmarians since our ancestors were such. or at least we would remain warrior types & never develop any higher culture.

hitler on the accusation of germanic tribes being primitive in antiquity while the mediterranean civilizations were flourishing high cultures:

'This capacity is always there, though it will lie dormant unless external circumstances awaken it to action. Nations, or rather races, which are endowed with the faculty of cultural creativeness possess this faculty in a latent form during periods when external circumstances are unfavourable for the time being. They therefore do not allow the faculty to express itself effectively. It is, therefore, outrageously unjust to speak of the pre-Christian Germans as uncivilised barbarians, for such they never were. But the severity of the climate that prevailed in the northern regions which they inhabited, imposed conditions of life which hampered a free development of their creative faculties. If they had come to the fairer climate of the South, with no previous culture whatsoever, and if they had acquired the necessary human material— that 1s to say, men of an inferior race—to serve them as tools in performing necessary labours, the cultural faculty dormant in them would have blossomed forth in splendour as happened in the case of the Greeks, for example.'

Mein Kampf Stalag Edition by Adolf Hilter

>>515068454
german original:

'Diese Fähigkeit wird grundsätzlich immer vorhanden sein und muß nur durch bestimmte äußere Bedingungen zur praktischen Auswirkung aufgeweckt werden. Kulturell und schöpferisch begabte Nationen oder besser Rassen tragen die Nützlichkeiten latent in sich, auch wenn im Augenblick ungünstige äußere Umstände eine Verwirklichung dieser Anlagen nicht zulassen. Daher ist es auch ein unglaublicher Unfug, die Germanen der vorchristlichen Zeit als „kulturlos“, als Barbaren hinzustellen. Sie sind es nie gewesen. Nur zwang sie die Herbheit ihrer nordischen Heimat unter Verhältnisse, die eine Entwicklung ihrer schöpferischen Kräfte behinderten. Wären sie, ohne irgendeine antike Welt, in die günstigeren Gefilde des Südens gekommen, und hätten sie in dem Material niederer Völker die ersten technischen Hilfsmittel erhalten, so würde die in ihnen schlummernde kulturbildende Fähigkeit genau so zur leuchtendsten Blüte erwachsen sein, wie dies zum Beispiel bei den Hellenen der Fall war.'

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

>>515068258
Oh shit I didn't know we had a real American intellectual here. Sorry! Sarcasm BTW, faggot.

>>515068387
>Germany today would be multiple times worse without Hitler,
Lmao, you have to be one deluded cuck to actually believe this

>>515068387
For sure. Operation Barbarossa clearly demonstrated by the amount of personnel and equipment captured that they (the jewish run communist machinery) were planing on a massive offensive war, but were badly prepared for a defensive one. Viktor Suvorov goes into great detail about this in his book Ice Breaker. The Nordic countries would have fallen rather quickly and we in particular should be very thankful for what the Germans did.

>>515067987
Shitler was a German racist and almost until the very end of the war he didn’t even allow Ukrainian bootlickers into the SS. if that drug addict faggot hadn’t attacked Poland, the Soviets would never have dared to move into Europe, because they’d risk a coalition war with half of Europe and the USA, which were anti-Soviet until Hitler allied with them. Shitler is the reason Judeo-Bolshevism flooded half of Europe
after he lost the war and left the German people at the mercy of amerimutts and kikes, he shot himself in the head
no wonder only degenerates are supporters of Shitler

>>515068577
We see today crystal clear what they intend to do with us with all their political nonsense and mass-immigration and how they portray us in the media which is ultimately rooted in their desire to exterminate us. You are saying that if they had greater freedom to do as they please we would somehow be in a better situation? How does that make any sense?

>>515068769
>Operation Barbarossa clearly demonstrated by the amount of personnel and equipment captured that they (the jewish run communist machinery) were planing on a massive offensive war
ahahahahahahahahah, if it weren't for the Lend-Lease program, those Russians would've had to attack German tanks with their bare hands, you delusional snownigger

>>515068387
the english always had a caste system, its the norman french aristocracy ruling ocver anglo saxon plebs. they replace their servants with nigs because whites are too much trouble. the english have the tudor rose in their crest, french nobility. english aristocracy spoke french while the plebs got their proto germanic old english enriched with latin & greek vocabulary. the english were always those capitalist types, personal gain over everything else, they have not equivalent to the german volksgemeinschaft because just like the americans they agree to mind ones own business.

britain has no democracy, the house of commons was established for the offspring of the aristocracy to have a say in politics, it has nothing to do with the will of the people, the english are known for striking any pleb revolt down with excess power. again its a caste system, the english never were sea faring, they had to be forced to become merchants while originally having been agrarian. in essense its our anglo saxon cousins being terrorized by french proto international-capitalists

>>515068983
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>>515068454
>according to your train of thought we could never become anything but "primitive" barmarians since our ancestors were such
That's an odd non-sequitur, especially when you've been arguing along with your idol that the people are in fact primitive if not exactly barbarians, then at least women who can't handle freedom and need to be led
No anon, unlike you and your idol, I actually believe in free Germanic men, their genius and industry, their love of liberty and capability to rule themselves, and in fact pre-Hitler, even the most authoritarian Prussian at heart believed in this, because that's the very foundation of the Auftragstaktik which the drugged-up puppet Hitler turned against in favor of his own retarded Directives

>>515068983
heres the reason for the migrant floods, they dont give a damn about whites, indians are good enough apparently. whites are too much of a hassle, we have proven time & time again that we are ill-suited to be slaves, so we have to go.

>>515068966
Before Hitler, nationalism, colonialism, racism, eugenics were all fully mainstream and in many if not most European nations, foundations of public policy
Never in a million years would Germany have allowed fucking roaches to immigrate and become 'Germans' if it hadn't been for the puppet Fuhrer and his merry band of cryptokikes ruining everything based for generations

>>515069237
>even the most authoritarian Prussian at heart believed in this
prussia the most militaristic authoritarian german government ever. you might reconsider your concept of freedom, if you are forced to do the right things its not restrictive, germans dont want freedom to do whatever but only to do the right thing & hitler was able to articulate that unifying principle & so everyone followed with fanatic enthusiasm.
>the führer is germany
they said, hitler was the embodiment of the german ideal.
german "Pflichterfüllung" is hard for non-germans to understand tldr: i am externally restricted by circumstances but internally i am free.

>>515068387
Fact checked and based, just look how much the mossad is seething >>515068577
Germany tried their best and being self independent made the anglo traitors and jews seethe. Europe and Germany are going to shit but they can at least be proud of trying

hitler did nothing wrong

>>515069783
>rrussia the most militaristic authoritarian german government ever
Yes. That's what I said. EVEN Prussians
You're not engaging with my argument at all. If you don't know what Auftragstaktik is, you can easily look it up?
>german "Pflichterfüllung" is hard for non-germans to understand
No it isn't, because we have the same exact word in Dutch. Ideally, Pflicht und Freiheit are in harmony. If not, it's the duty of a free Germanic man to make it so
We don't need and never have needed blind obedience to a dictator commanding us what to do. That is completely un-Germanic, and un -European even. It's fitting for the lesser races