Thread 515061250

At what point in history did white features like white skin and blonde hair stop being considered as subhuman features? Was it after Rome collapsed?

The people I know who made it the basis of their existence to lie were all blue eyed. Just something I noticed.

reminder that hermes, ares and apollo are all described as blond haired. athena has blue eyes, and athena, hera and venus are all described as 'white-armed'

>>515061393
>t. lying brownoid

Augustus complained about Roman women wearing blonde wigs before he was even emperor.

>>515061393
That's weird because basically the only people that I could ever trust were blondes. Brown people and brown eyed people always managed to fuck me over.

>>515061643
I would call them out on shit and they acted like the couldn't even remember. It gave me a sort of paranoia for long period of time, I believed all these blue-eyed liars were tethered to a single mind that upholds the simulation. I'm probably right about that, they would make excuses for one another without actually knowing the other, always playing devils advocate.

>>515061923
sounds like them there indo youropean boys done gave you a right good buckin'. sorry to hear lad, but you done been bucked good. ain't no unbuckin' what you been bucked through

>>515061250 (OP)
>WHITE POWERRRRRRR

>>515062181
I consider them teachers of sorts, and they only made me stronger. All of them are weak and helpless when alone.

>>515061250 (OP)
We will never know.
It's possible the barbarians back in roman times were more like Russians are today. Russians often have blond hair but are uncivilized.

>>515061587
apollo is the sun god and sun is yellow / bright. I don't think it represented the same white people whom they called barbaric savage monkeys
>>515061678
yeah blonde hair was associated with prostitution and low class sex work. kinda like gyarus and how british women use overly exaggerated brown make up today to make themselves look ridiculous. I think it's something to do with women's psychology.

>>515061250 (OP)
It was around the time when everyone in Europe stopped considering Turkroaches subhuman barbarians that keep invading the civilized lands. Oh wait that never happened lol.

>>515062942
imagine being so insecure about your shit colored skin that you have to spend hours making an infographic to make yourself feel better about never ever becoming a beautiful white demigod

>>515063126
>imagine being so insecure about your shit colored skin that you have to spend hours making an infographic to make yourself feel better about never ever becoming a beautiful white demigod

>>515061250 (OP)
>random nobody philoshitter said durr burr hurr

alexander the great was blonde you shitskinned cockroach, lol

>>515063199
Now compare the number of turkroaches who work in Germany and other EU countries so they can live among civilized human beings, versus the number of White people who emigrate to Turkey from the EU.

>>515061393
Just remember that the Germans managed (through Christianity) come into military positions of power. They negotiated a crippling truce for the Romans that benefitted the goths in 382. Since then the Romans pretty much at an annual state of collapse. Never trust a German.

go shave your back and contemplate why your frontal lobe is completely undeveloped achmed

>>515063379
are you fucking blind? it's not even close to blonde in the picture you posted.

>>515063468
I'm not refusing the current prosperity of white people. it's just that when did whites stopped being considered as subhumans and darker races started being seen inferior instead?

His hair was described by many as being like a lion mane, and "yellow", aka blonde you retarded shitskin.

>>515064178
The exact date is probably 1576 when Drake crossed the cape of Magellan. Before then Germanics were just barbarians.

>>515064178
Even in Ancient Greece the beauty standard was pale/light skin and red or blonde hair and blue eyes. Always has been.
Dark skin has always been associated with commoners and slaves since they spent most of their time outdoors and got a natural tan while working under the sun. Only the nobility could afford to sit at home and escape the sun. So pale skin = nobility/high status = beauty.
This was especially true in Southern Europe like Rome and ancient Greece since it's a warm climate and much harder to keep your skin from getting a tan.

Notice how he looks nothing like a cockroach, very interesting, almost like youre something thats less than human that crawled up out of africa

>>515064707
Also people have been using white powder as a makeup since ancient times to make their skin look more pale.

>>515064488
that's literally light brown. and you're just coping.
>>515064707
no, white skin and blonde hair simply belonged to prostitutes because nordics were slaved by them (>>515064178). they saw northern people as inferior in intelligence and ethics.

>the architectural historian Vitruvius (active around 46-30 B.C.) attributed the keen intelligence of Romans to the rarity of the atmosphere and the warm climate (consistent with the earlier Greek worldview). He also thought that the French, Germans and Britons were mentally slow. He reasoned that the humidity and cold produced in them "a sluggish intelligence"

>Julian found the Egyptians more intelligent than the northern peoples and given to crafts
>Julian thought that Africans were civilized, intelligent and mild-mannered, whereas he saw Aryans and Anglo-Saxons as warlike, barbaric and cruel.

>>515065194
They were enslaved exactly because white women have always been considered beautiful and desirable and fetched a high price in brown countries.
When the Ottomans invaded Europe in the middle ages, they kidnapped and brought back white women to serve as concubines for their sultans.

>>515065194
>no
Fuck off

to not get derailed too much I have to repeat
this thread is not about whether romans were white or not because it's apperant that they were not white
they had virtually no germanic / slavic gene pool. they were even browner than the current south italians by average.

>>515065535
>They were enslaved exactly because white women have always been considered beautiful
this is a hilarious cope dude.
>>515065573
what you're suggesting is alexander had light brown hair at most. he wasn't blonde (LOL, here >>515063883) and this thread is not particularly about alexander.

>>515061250 (OP)
Idk probably.
The Greeks believed that blond hair and blue eyes were superior.
And they were correct considering that the vast majority of everything was invented by Northern Europeans.

>>515061250 (OP)
Its after they started being conquerers. You were also seen as great people of the steppes but now you are seen as nothing but mutt subhumans. Its all about what ones people achieve i guess.

>>515067754
>The Greeks believed that blond hair and blue eyes were superior.
that's going against the common sense and evidence given in this thread though
>And they were correct considering that the vast majority of everything was invented by Northern Europeans.
tech is exponential and you just had to be in the right place inbetween 1900-2000 to "invent everything". a timeframe not longer than a single human lifespan.

>>515063883
Wasn't that art made centuries later?
Pretty sure writers at the time he was alive described him as having red hair.

>>515070985
I don't think anyone said he was red-headed but he had reddish hue I guess

>>515061250 (OP)
Yes it was after we destroyed their inferior empire.

>>515064178
>Northern European
>light brown hair
>Southern European
>brown hair
>slightly tan
>/pol/ has argued about this for years

But I tell you what, they weren't Turks.

>>515071305
keep in mind that europe always had more fertile lands and more population then africa and middle east

>>515071422
Krauts destroying civilizations as always

>>515061250 (OP)
>Was it after Rome collapsed?
The Byzantine era, so yeah I guess. Western Rome made the mistake of not paying their mercenaries, so they got exactly what they deserved. When you promise to pay hired killers you should always honor your word, lest they take their payment out of your ass.

>>515065937
>pic
If you've ever painted skin tone, you know the base coat is dark, and you build on top of it.

>>515071469
also christianity played a major role in europe history , whitout christianity wich came from the middle east europe would have not the succes it has today

>>515061587
and every single one of those are rip-of from ancient finnish characters. (((history))) is a lie

>>515061250 (OP)
They were always considered superior, so superior your 'proud' race wanted nothing more than racemix with them so you could larp as humans

>>515061250 (OP)
>Scythians
The irony is that they are closer to you Turkic-Mongols than the Greeks.

>The genetics of remains from Scythian-identified cultures show broad general patterns, among these are remarkably different histories for men and women

>The Western Scythians had haplogroups such as R1a, R1b, E1b, I2a, Q1a and J2a, and the Eastern Scythians had R1a, N and Q1a. In a sample of Siberian Scythians, there was a nearly equal proportion of West and East Eurasian maternal lineages

>The maternal lineages among Scythians are diverse, showing a mixture of Eastern and West Eurasian lineages, with increasing East Asian mixture in the Iron Age. In Western Scythians, West Eurasian maternal lineages are 62.5–74% of the total, while East Eurasian maternal lineages are 26–37%. In a sample of Eastern Scythians from Tuva, the maternal lineages are nearly equally divided between Western and East Eurasian sources

WHG were spearchucking retards
Anatolians were smart grain eating manlets.
Aryans were alpha bug men psychos.

Scythians are the aryans. Once they placed themselves at the top of the native European heriarchies, or died off, they stopped being cannibal retards. They enslaved the other europeans with fairytales like they did to the Hindoos.
WHG were still seen as savage retards, though. And the aryans of Rome quickly became brown haired.

>>515072201
>The Scythians represent a "multitude of horse-warrior nomad" groups, which emerged from Bronze and Iron Age Central Asians (Western Steppe Herders or "Steppe_MLBA") who mixed with an East Asian-derived population represented by Khövsgöl LBA groups, giving rise to the various "Scythian cultures". Different Scythian groups arose locally, rather than through migration patterns. As a whole, Scythians can be modeled as a mixture between West Eurasian sources, primarily Western Steppe Herders and BMAC-like groups, with additional amounts of mixture from a population represented by the Khövsgöl LBA peoples of East Eurasian origin. Previous suggested mixture sources represented by other modern "East Eurasian proxies", such as Han Chinese or Nganasans, failed and were less reliable than Khövsgöl sources

>Scythians can broadly be differentiated into "Western" and "Eastern" sub-groups, with Western Scythians displaying affinity to various modern groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia, while Eastern Scythian affinity is more widespread but nearly exclusively found among modern Turkic-speaking as well as Uralic and Paleosiberian peoples. Overall, modern Tajiks and Yaghnobis were found to display the strongest genetic continuity with the Bronze and Iron Age populations of Central Asia (Indo-Iranians). Scythian Steppe populations display genetic heterogeneity along a west-to-east cline, with Eastern Scythians having higher genetic diversity

>Eastern Scythians around the Altai Mountains were of multiple origins and originated from a mixture event in the Bronze Age. The Eastern Scythians genetically formed from mixture between Western Steppe Herder sources (which could be associated with different cultures such as Sintashta, Srubnaya, and Andronovo) and a specific East Eurasian source that was already present during the LBA in the neighboring northern Mongolia region

>>515061250 (OP)
Rome was always a Jewish empire.

>>515061393
Blue eyed people lie well. Brown eyed people lie poorly or are too childlike to be aware they're lying. Green eyed people are monstrously honest.

>>515072514
Yeah, i'm sorry for all of that.

>>515061250 (OP)
Most White people have brown hair and brown eyes.

>>515072413
>Eastern Scythians did not belong to a single genetic or cultural cluster, while Western Scythians fall in or close to the European cluster

>A later different Eastern influx, starting during the Middle Iron Age to post-Iron Age period, is evident in three outlier samples of the Tasmola culture (Tasmola Birlik) and one of the Pazyryk culture (Pazyryk Berel), which displayed c. 70–83% additional Ancient Northeast Asian ancestry represented by the Neolithic Devil’s Gate Cave specimen, suggesting them to be recent migrants from further east

>The same additional eastern ancestry is found among the later groups of Huns (Hun Berel 300CE, Hun elite 350CE), and the Karakaba remains (830CE). At the same time, western Sarmatian-like and minor additional BMAC-like ancestry spread eastwards, with a Saka-associated sample from southeastern Kazakhstan (Konyr Tobe 300CE) displaying around 85% Sarmatian and 15% BMAC ancestry

>Sarmatians are modeled to derive primarily from the preceding Western Steppe Herders of the Pontic–Caspian steppe

>Initially, the Western Scythians carried only West Eurasian maternal haplogroups, but the frequency of East Eurasian haplogroups rises to 26% in samples dated to the 2nd century BC. Among the Western Scythians discovered at Rostov-on-Don, in European Russia, East Eurasian maternal haplogroups make up 37.5% of the total. These results possibly suggest the increasing presence of East Eurasian women in Western Scythian populations, although autosomal genetic evidence is needed to confirm this observation

romans had white skin though? they werent shit brown like you

>inb4 the mexcrement posts the fayum portraits

>>515072632
most white people jhave blue eyes
muttshit

>>515061250 (OP)
Polemon is correct blonde whites never invent shit, their almost all normie tier liberal extraverts and naive retards. Brown haired introverted whites literally build the world, the blonde ones are made for working and raising children generally, the brown haired and green eyed ones are almost always more intelligent. Seriously show me a smart blonde in history sure they can make great leaders or great entertainers but innovation is literally never done by blondes

>>515070465
>you just had to be in the right place inbetween 1900-2000 to "invent everything".

This is the funniest brown cope of all time, the same as niggers in South Africa hating "racist whites" for selfishly keeping all the good neighborhoods to themselves, all the places where the buildings are clean and well-maintained, and there isn't trash and abandoned cars and gunfights in the streets. Literally incapable of understanding why things happen.
>racist whites kept all the technology to themselves somehow, otherwise we could've invented stuff too!

>>515073010
Look at eastern europe and nordic nations the most blonde yet added so little to the world. A blonde can never be a Tesla, a Jung, a Nietzsche a Graham Bell

>>515061250 (OP)
well everyone else started sucking a lot and white people kept doing better and better.
now all the brownoids claim superiority yet also want to live in our countries.

>>515070465
Then why do turks still today with all advantages of modernity fail to innovate anything? Like all you fags are good for is laughing gas, barbers and food, and youll be that way now aswell as 10.000 years from now. You people dont think about the questions of existence you simply exist. They not like us

>>515072696
>In terms of paternal haplogroups, most Western Scythian remains from the North Pontic region have been observed to carry a specific clade haplogroup R1a, as well as Q1a, R1b, I2a, J2a and E1b

>Unterländer and others (2017) found that contemporary descendants of western Scythian groups are found among various groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia

>Pilipenko (2018) studied mtDNA from remains of the Tagar culture, which was part of the Scytho-Siberian world. Although found in Khakassia, at the eastern extreme of the Eurasian steppe, remains from the early stage of the Tagar culture were found to be closely related to those of contemporary Scythians on the Pontic-Caspian steppe far to the west, exhibiting both West Eurasian and East Eurasian lineages. However, the fossils from the middle stage of the Tagar culture showed a strong increase in East Eurasian maternal lineages, increasing from 35% to nearly 45% by the middle stage. The mtDNA haplogroups C and D increased from 8.7 to 37.8%

>Mary, et al. (2019) studied the genetics of remains from the Aldy-Bel culture in and around Tuva in central Asia, adjacent to western Mongolia; the Aldy-Bel culture is considered one of the Scytho-Siberian cultures. The authors also analyzed the maternal haplogroups of 26 Siberian Scythian remains from Arzhan. 50% of the remains carried an East Eurasian haplogroup, while 50% carried a West Eurasian haplogroup. In contrast to the paternal lineages, the maternal lineages were extremely diverse. The most common lineages were variants of haplogroup C4

>Mary, et al. (2019) also determined the paternal haplogroups of 16 Siberian Scythian males of the Aldy-Bel culture. 56.2% of the haplogroups belonged to varieties of haplogroup R1a. On the other hand, 31.2% belonged to haplogroup Q1b, which was found in Bronze Age samples from the Altai Mountains

>>515073241
>Additionally, one specimen (6.25%) carried haplogroup N-M231, which is associated with Neolithic remains from Northern China

>The Scythian groups of the Pontic Steppe and South Siberia had significantly different paternal genetics, which suggests that the Pontic and South Siberian Scythians had completely different paternal origins, with almost no paternal gene flow between them

>Since the Middle Iron Age onwards, the Eastern Scythians received additional Northern East Asian geneflow, paralleling the emergence of Huns, which shared this newly arrived component. There was also an increase in Sarmatian and BMAC-like ancestries

>Unterländer, et al. (2017) found that eastern Scythians share closest genetic similarities with modern-day speakers of Siberian Turkic languages, such as Telengits, Tubalars, and Tofalars, which supports a "multi-regional origin" of the eastern Iron Age Scythians

>Eastern Scythians share partial ancestry with contemporary Turkic, Mongolian, and Siberian groups in eastern Eurasia, while evidence of genetic affinity with Scythians is strongest among modern speakers of the Kipchak languages. There is increasing evidence for a partial continuity from the eastern Scythians to the Turkic-speakers of the Altai region, as well as modern Uralic and Paleosiberian peoples

>Turkic-speaking Central Asians can be described as having formed from mixture between Scythian-like groups, displaying their highest genetic affinity to modern day Tajiks, and "Eastern Steppe Xiongnu" groups during the Iron Age. The mixture with West Eurasian sources was found to be "in accordance with the linguistically documented language borrowing in Turkic languages"

>>515072899
yes, their slaves had blonde hair (>>515064178)
>fayum portraits
egyptians / north africans seen as more intelligent than northern blonde people, lol.

>Julian found the Egyptians more intelligent than the northern peoples and given to crafts
>Julian thought that Africans were civilized, intelligent and mild-mannered, whereas he saw Aryans and Anglo-Saxons as warlike, barbaric and cruel.

>>515073143
Newton and Huygens easily destroy your shitskin cope
Also
>Jung
>Nietzsche
LMAO

>>515072932
It's okay you're mad. They're called recessive genes for a reason, your civilization has to be isolated into an incest colony so recessive genetic errors continue.

Romans were Nordic

>>515061250 (OP)
>At what point in history did white features like white skin and blonde hair stop being considered as subhuman features? Was it after Rome collapsed?
India got niggered around 500 BCE, Greek got niggered in 400 BCE and Rome got niggered in 100 CE these are the dates when these cultures started linking fair traits to foreigners instead for their gods and beauty

>>515073084
how is it cope, retard? your kind didn't make shit until the very last time. and 99% of tech progression happened in just under 100 years. a single person could live up to see all of it. it's why retards think whites ""invented everything""

>>515061250 (OP)
>mfw all of you are arguing with a literal turkoroach
sage and suk my iuropean dick you mudslim steppe/sand nigger monkey pos

>>515073673
only in nordcuck delusions

>>515062942
I don't get people like you. I read your first post and I thought
>Envious turk
Then I see the next one and you're claiming they're not white and it's like looking into a mirror for me
>White identical to Augustus
Are you actually suggesting there is something so different between these two so as to be unrelatable in any way?

>>515072201
>>515072413
>>515072696
>>515073241
>>515073400
>Several studies have investigated to what extent a gene flow from Central Asia to Anatolia contributed to the gene pool of the Turkish people and the role of the 11th-century settlement by Oghuz Turks. Central Asia is home to numerous populations that "demonstrate an array of mixed anthropological features of East Eurasians (EEA) and West Eurasians (WEA)"; two studies showed Uyghurs have 40-53% ancestry classified as East Asian, with the rest being classified as European; another study put the European-related ancestry at 36%. A 2018 autosomal single-nucleotide polymorphism study suggested that Eurasian Steppe slowly transitioned from Indo European and Iranian-speaking groups with largely western Eurasian ancestry to increasing East Asian ancestry with Turkic and Mongolic groups in the past 4000 years, including extensive Turkic migrations out of Mongolia and slow assimilation of local populations

>Two earlier (2000 and 2002) studies suggested that, although the Turks' settlement of Anatolia was of cultural importance, including the introduction of the Turkish language and Islam, the genetic contribution from Central Asia may have been slight. A 2020 global study looking at whole-genome sequences showed that Turks have relatively lower within-population shared identical-by-descent genomic fragments compared to the rest of the world, suggesting mixture of remote populations

>A 2003 study found that some Xiongnu remains from Mongolia had paternal and maternal genetic lineages that have also been found in people from modern-day Turkey. Most (89%) of the Xiongnu sequences in this study belonged to Asian maternal haplogroups, however other studies have shown a significantly higher frequency of West Eurasian maternal and paternal haplogroups in Xiongnu samples, indicating a diverse population. Contact between West and East Eurasian populations pre-dates the Xiongnu period

>>515073720
>they were muh replaced
greeks mixed with slavs. ancient greece had nothing to do with northern people and slavs. and rome as well. they used white people with blonde hair as slaves

>>515064488
how the fuck is that blonde?

>>515061250 (OP)
cope

>>515073792
and it only happened because they were mass producing guns to keep the black slave market and to keep exploiting all the world , even china that kept to itself has suffered and we all know what they did , the only pure and honest european nation was germany and look at what they did to it in ww1 and ww2 and

>>515061734
This.

>>515074009
>A study published in 2003 looked at Human leukocyte antigen genes to investigate the affinity of certain Mongolian tribes with Germans and Anatolian Turks. It was found that Germans and Anatolian Turks were equally distant to the Mongolian populations. No close relationship was found between Anatolian Turks and Mongolians despite the close relationship of their languages and shared historical neighborhood

>A study of 75 individuals from various parts of Turkey concluded that the "genetic structure of the mitochondrial DNAs in the Turkish population bears some similarities to Turkic Central Asian populations"

>A 2001 study comparing the populations of Mediterranean Europe and Turkic-speaking peoples of Central Asia estimated the Central Asian genetic contribution to current Anatolian Y-chromosome loci (one binary and six short tandem repeat) and mitochondrial DNA gene pool to be roughly 30%

>A 2004 high-resolution SNP analysis of Y-chromosomal DNA in samples collected from blood banks, sperm banks, and university students in eight regions of Turkey found evidence for a weak but detectable signal (<9%) of recent paternal gene flow from Central Asia. A 2006 study concluded that the true Central Asian contributions to Anatolia was 13% for males and 22% for females (with wide ranges of confidence intervals), and the language replacement in Turkey and might not have been in accordance with the elite dominance model

>It was later observed that the male contribution from Central Asia to the Turkish population with reference to the Balkans was 13%. For all non-Turkic speaking populations, the Central Asian contribution was higher than in Turkey. According to the study, "the contributions ranging between 13%–58% must be considered with a caution because they harbor uncertainties about the state of pre-nomadic invasion and further local movements."

>>515061250 (OP)

It's whenever beauty and femininity became the ultimate measure of human evolution. When, exactly, that occurred, who knows?

>>515074287
dnr
not a single word
not even a single molecule
pls stop spamming wall of texts

>>515074287
>In a 2015 study, Turkish samples were in the West Eurasian clade which consisted of "all of mainland Europe, Sardinia, Sicily, Cyprus, western Russia, the Caucasus, Turkey, and Iran, and some individuals from Tajikistan and Turkmenistan." In this study, ancestry from East Asia was also visible in Turkish samples, with events after 1000 CE generally involving Asian sources being important when it comes to the ancestry of Turkey and its region

>As of 2017, Central Asian genetic variation has been poorly studied, with little or no whole genome sequencing data for countries such as Turkmenistan and Afghanistan. Therefore, future comprehensive genome-wide studies are needed. Turkish people, and other Western Asian populations, may also be closely related to Central Asian populations such as those near Western Asia

>A 2021 study which looked at whole genomes and whole-exomes of 3,362 Turkish people found that the most common Y chromosome haplogroups were J2a, R1b, and R1a (18.4%, 14.9%, and 12.1% respectively). Haplogroups C-M130 and O3 ranged from 8.5% to 15.6%. Most common mtDNA haplogroups were H, U, and T (27.55%, 19.53%, and 10.99% respectively)

>An earlier 2004 study of 523 people found many Y-DNA haplogroups in Turkey. Most haplogroups in Turkey are shared with its West Asian and Caucasian neighbors. The most common haplogroup in Turkey is J2 (24%), which is widespread among Mediterranean, Caucasian, and West Asian populations. Haplogroups that are common in Europe (R1b and I; 20%), South Asia (L, R2, H; 5.7%), and Africa (A, E3*, E3a; 1%) are also present. By contrast, Central Asian haplogroups (C, Q, and O) are rarer. While, K, R1a, R1b, and L infrequently occur in Central Asia, they are notable in many other Western Turkic groups. J2 is also found in Central Asia, a notably high frequency (30.4%) being observed among Uzbeks

>>515074459
>The main percentages of Y chromosome haplogroups identified in the 2004 study were as follows:

>J2: 24%. J2 (M172) may reflect the spread of Anatolian farmers. J2-M172 is "mainly confined to the Mediterranean coastal areas, southeastern Europe and Anatolia", as well as West Asia and Central Asia

>R1b: 15.9%. R1b is found in Europe, West Asia, Central Asia, Southern Asia, some parts of the Sahel region of Africa

>G: 10.9%. Haplogroup G has also been associated with the spread of agriculture (together with J2 clades) and is "largely restricted to populations of the Caucasus and the Near/Middle East and southern Europe." The G2a subclade in particular is associated with the Early European Farmers, who in turn descend from the Anatolian farmers

>E3b-M35: 10.7% (E3b1-M78 and E3b3-M123 accounting for all E representatives in the sample, besides a single E3b2-M81 chromosome). E-M78 is common along a line from the Horn of Africa via Egypt to the Balkans. Haplogroup E-M123 is found in both Africa and Eurasia

>J1: 9%

>R1a: 6.9%

>I: 5.3%

>K: 4.5%

>L: 4.2%

>N: 3.8%

>T: 2.5%

>Q: 1.9%

>C: 1.3%

>R2: 0.96%

>Other markers that occurred in less than 1% are H, A, E3a, O, and R1*

>A 2011 study took into account oral histories and historical records. The researchers went to four settlements in Central Anatolia and chose a random selection of subjects from among university students

>>515073513
> 2 blonde thinkers in the entirity of human history
Actually Newton was a ginger and Humes had auburn hair, try again faggot

>>515073513
Huygens** was light brown btw

>>515074703
>In an Afshar village near Ankara where, according to oral tradition, the ancestors of the inhabitants came from Central Asia, the researchers found that 57% of the villagers had haplogroup L, 13% had haplogroup Q and 3% had haplogroup N. The high rate of haplogroup L observed in this study, which is most common in South Asia, was difficult for researchers to explain and could not be traced back to any specific geographic location, and authors said it would be difficult to associate this haplogroup with the Turkic migrations, given the paucity of evidence. Furthermore, 10% of the Afshars had haplogroups E3a and E3b, while only 13% had haplogroup J2a, the most common in Turkey

>By contrast, the inhabitants of a traditional Turkish village that had little migration had about 25% haplogroup N and 25% J2a, with 3% G and close to 30% R1 variants (mostly R1b)

>Y-DNA comparison of Turkish and Greek-speaking populations of Cyprus, Anatolia, Thrace, the Aegean, and peninsular Greece (Citation: Heraclides et al. 2017 Y-chromosomal analysis of Greek Cypriots reveals a primarily common pre-Ottoman paternal ancestry with Turkish Cypriots. PLoS ONE 12(6): e0179474. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0179474

>>515073513
Why cant you just admit blondes are low IQ midwits kek

>>515074128
Who invented the gun, and who invented mass production?

You brown shits are so delusional. We should literally just fill thousands of planes with poison, and start a relentless campaign of poisoning you from the air, until you're all dead. You're nothing but trouble. You are so inbred into your own retardation that you can't even see how retarded you are. I've been to NAFRI countries, and you're disgusting, poor, violent etc. You cannot create the life you want for yourselves, and you couldn't even maintain it even if we built it for you. You are criminal, violent scum, not thinking about the day tomorrow.

>>515061250 (OP)
Blondes are just low testsoterone niggers with albinism they claim they invented everything, they built everything, they were everyone even Japanese that's why they're so obsessed with niggers especially their women because they're related, you will never see a brown hair and eyes white dude doing all the shit blondies are doing

>>515072571
What is it about green eyes?

>>515075009
We literally did invent the modern world. We ARE kangz. All the rest of the world claim they WUZ.

>>515074842
>A whole-genome sequencing study of Turkish genetics, conducted on 16 individuals, concluded that the Turkish population forms a cluster with Southern European and Mediterranean populations and that the predicted contribution from ancestral East Asian populations is 21.7% (presumably reflecting a Central Asian origin). However, that does not provide a direct estimate of a migration rate, because of factors such as the unknown original contributing populations. Given Europeans and Native Americans may share Ancient North Eurasian ancestry, "significant Ancient North Eurasian ancestry might also be found in Turkish genetic profiles; this requires further study"

>Another study in 2021, which looked at whole-genomes and whole-exomes of 3,362 unrelated Turkish samples, resulted in establishing the first Turkish variome and found "extensive admixture between Balkan, Caucasus, Middle Eastern, and European populations" in line with history of Turkey. Moreover, significant number of rare genome and exome variants were unique to modern-day Turkish population. Neighbouring populations in East and West, and Tuscan people in Italy were closest to Turkish population in terms of genetic similarity

>Central Asian contribution to maternal, paternal, and autosomal genes were detected, consistent with the historical migration and expansion of Oghuz Turks from Central Asia. Central Asian autosomal DNA geneflow was estimated as around 10%. Using haplogroups that are only found in Central Asia, the study estimated Central Asian paternal and maternal contributions. Paternal contribution was estimated as between 8.5% to 15.6% based on C-RPS4Y and O3-M122 Y-chromosome haplogroups. Maternal contributions was estimated as around 8% based on D4c and G2a mtDNA haplogroups

>>515075090
>The authors speculated that the genetic similarity of the modern-day Turkish population with modern-day European populations might be due to spread of Neolithic Anatolian farmers into Europe, which impacted the genetic makeup of modern-day European populations. Moreover, the study found no clear genetic separation between different regions of Turkey, leading authors to suggest that recent migration events within Turkey resulted in genetic homogenization

>>515075074
Is this Democratic Republic of Congo or Denmark?

>>515070465
>that's going against the common sense and evidence given in this thread though
Well, I'm right and you are wrong.
>tech is exponential and you just had to be in the right place inbetween 1900-2000 to "invent everything". a timeframe not longer than a single human lifespan.
Nigger what the fuck is this cope lmao.
"You may have invented literally fucking everything but it doesn't count because you were too smart too quick"

>>515075003
the chinese invented the first firearms and the british managed to mass produce to fuck everyone including china itself , go try now whit them faggot you cant

>>515075044
I have green eyes, so I wondered this myself. Then one dya I encountered someone else that had equally green eyes (another man, no homo) and found it distracting and somewhat entrancing. This left with me much to consider about past experiences. Later on got fairly close with a woman with lighter green eyes and blonde hair, similar effect. I consider it to be similar to the "piercing" aspect of some blue eyes, but more generalized.

>>515075318
Denmark

You guys haven't invented shit or conquered shit, you are but shitstains on living the shadow of great men of the past that didn't took shit from cunts and had them well in line as they should be.

>>515075929
*only

>>515075592
>>515075009
>>515074128
Dude just stop coping.
Whites literally invented everything and civilized the world.
Every Calculus, Physics, Chem, and engineering class you take in highschool and college is about learning stuff White people invented centuries ago.

Sorry that your people were shorter, weaker, uglier, and dumber, but that's just how it works.

>>515063883
you posted wrong pic

>>515075375
>you were too smart
not too smart, but the dominant world power at around the same time when it "boomed". are you retarded? the same answer here >>515073792

>>515061393
times change anon
those light-eyed mutations last a long time in the gene pool but they'll occur seemingly spontaneously in history.

>>515061250 (OP)
T'was but projection from manlet shitalians envying the fertile northern soil

>>515076268
>America couldnt invade vietnam so vietnam is superior o algo

the romans invented the career lawyer, the empire, they commodified slavery, and controlled the central chokehold of the mediterranean. the Roman elite were rich in terms that eclipsed other culture's farthest imagination of "rich." Of course they think they're the greatest and most noble people on the planet. They were maybe the most literate culture around at the time too.

>>515076019
we dont deny you contributed to science and technology , but the fact you keep saying you are superiour to everyone else , also what did tech bring but misery ? i bet more peaple would have been happy now whit a simple life fucking a busty medieval women instead of scrolling 4chan

>>515061250 (OP)
You shitskins have always been jealous. Admit it, filth.

>>515075090
>Given Europeans and Native Americans may share Ancient North Eurasian ancestry, "significant Ancient North Eurasian ancestry might also be found in Turkish genetic profiles; this requires further study"

They are the origin of blonde hair.

>Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) refers to an ancestral component that represents the lineage of the people of the Mal'ta–Buret' culture (c.24,000 BP) and populations closely related to them, such as the Upper Paleolithic individuals from Afontova Gora in Siberia. Genetic studies also revealed that the ANE are closely related to the remains of the preceding Yana culture (c.32,000 BP), which were dubbed as Ancient North Siberians (ANS), and which either are directly ancestral to the ANE, or both being closely related sister lineages

>The ANE/ANS lineages both derive their ancestry from an admixture event between 'Ancient West Eurasians' (best represented by Upper Paleolithic Europeans such as Kostenki-14, c.38,000 BP) and 'Ancient East Eurasians' (best represented by the Tianyuan man, c.39,000 BP) during the Upper Paleolithic period

>Around 20,000 to 25,000 years ago, a branch of Ancient North Eurasian people mixed with Ancient East Asians, which led to the emergence of Ancestral Native American, Ancient Beringian and Ancient Paleo-Siberian populations. It is unknown exactly where this population admixture took place, and two opposing theories have put forth different migratory scenarios that united the Ancient North Eurasians with ancient East Asian populations

>Later, ANE populations migrated westward into Europe and admixed with European Western hunter-gatherer (WHG)-related groups to form the Eastern hunter-gatherer (EHG) group, which later admixed with Caucasus hunter-gatherers to form the Western Steppe Herder group, which became widely dispersed across Eurasia during the Bronze Age

>>515061250 (OP)
yes white (and asian) are retarded monkey that you don't want to chimp out, but unlike goatfucker and other shitskin we did selective breeding to get the best golem for millenia.

>>515076463
northern people were jelous of romans for centuries. the thread is a question asking when did it became the backwards

>>515076418
>i bet more peaple would have been happy now whit a simple life fucking a busty medieval women instead of scrolling 4chan
This desu
You can't deny this, all that invention, for what?
So your descendants can worship niggers and jeets, and go extinct?
LMAO

>>515076374
Dude it's really hard to claim to be superior if you are getting conquered.
Just accept the fact that Whites, especially of the Northern European type are more competitive and more dominate.

>>515076619
One conquered the other btw.

>>515076418
From
>"Chinese and Rome is actually more technology impressive because (some reason)
Now
>"Yea okay, Northern Whites MAY be the smartest people in the world and have invented literally fucking everything, but it doesn't matter because tech is bad!!!"

>>515076480
>Blond hair is associated with a single nucleotide polymorphism, the mutated allele rs12821256 of the KITLG gene. The earliest known individual with this allele is a female south-central Siberian ANE individual from the Afontova Gora 3 site, which is dated to c.17,000 before present (the earlier ANE Mal'ta boy lacks the sequence coverage to make this determination). The allele then appears later in ANE-derived Eastern Hunter-Gatherer (EHG) populations at Samara, Motala and Ukraine, circa 10,000 BP, and then in populations with Steppe ancestry. Mathieson, et al. (2018) thus argued that this allele originated in the Ancient North Eurasian population, before spreading to western Eurasia

>Geneticist David Reich said that the KITLG gene for blond hair probably entered continental Europe in a population migration wave from the Eurasian steppe, by a population carrying substantial Ancient North Eurasian ancestry. Hanel and Carlberg (2020) likewise report that populations derived Ancient North Eurasian ancestry, specifically the Eastern Hunter-Gatherers and the Yamnayas, were responsible for transmitting this gene to Europeans. The gene was also found among the Tarim mummies

>>515076619
I think it's related to the fact that trade expanded and became more important across the Atlantic, since for thousands of years the Mediterranean was the most important. Also, the Protestant Reformation, whether we like it or not, encouraged economic growth and literacy, for example.

>>515077085
Yikes...

>>515061250 (OP)
In England blondes are often much trashier/dumber than non-blondes (speaking of non-browns here). This isn’t a rule but a tendency I’ve noticed. Dunno if it’s a British-only dysgenic thing or true in other blonde fag having countries too.

>>515077085
Yikes...

>>515077046
>"The Germanic conquered the Romans"
In reality, the Germanic adopted the Roman religion, the Roman bureaucratic system, the Roman language, the Roman institutions, and even tried to call themselves Roman for centuries. I think the Romans were the ones who won actually.

>>515076619
Here in America, we lynched you swarthy southern orc "people" for being in the mafia. (Google "1891 New Orleans lynchings")

Italy briefly thought about declaring war, but backed out because you southern swarthy bunch are weak cowardly "people" who knew that you would get crushed by the Nordic ethnostate empire that was America.

There is literally ZERO argument here.
Northern Europeans are simply taller, stronger, and smarter.
superior in every category.

So this entire thread is some brown guy seething about blonde people? Lol.

>>515075044
Green eyed are definitely magicians

>>515077085
>>515077365
Most wives of several Ottoman Sultans were ethnic Caucasians converted to Islam.

Many of the Caucasian women in the Ottoman harem were described as having "green eyes and long, dark blond hair, pale skin of translucent white colour, thin waist, slender body structure, and very good-looking hands and feet."

It is also understood from the memoirs of Princess Emily Ruete that Circassian women, who were captured in Constantinople and brought to Africa for the harem of Zanzibari Said bin Sultan, Sultan of Muscat and Oman, were envied by their rivals who considered Circassians to be of the "hateful race of blue-eyed cats."

In Henry Lindlahr's words in the early 20th century, "Blue-eyed Caucasian regiments today form the cream of the Sultan's army.“

According to the feminist Harriet Martineau, Circassians were the only saving virtue of the Egyptian harem where these Circassian mothers produced the finest children and if they were to be excluded from the harem, the upper class in Egypt would be doomed.

A consequence of the Russian conquest of the Caucasus was an excess of beautiful Circassian women on the Turkish slave market, and that this was causing prices of slaves in general to plummet. Black slaves were being killed to make room for Caucasian slaves.

>>515077760
>So this entire thread is some brown guy seething about blonde people? Lol.

This entire board, sometimes...
nupol in a nutshell

>>515077625
>taller, stronger
don't you people seethe whenever bbc mentioned because blacks are the most superior in physical form to every race?
>smarter
well, I don't agree. most prosperous atm? maybe. if you don't count the slavic countries, funnily, the whitest countriest there are. not much blondie comes up when you think a past european inventor/scientist. average iq level of the responses I got itt isnt very convincing either
I think this thread is derailed too much. I wasnt asking whether whites are in power now which obviously true. I was asking when did they stopped being considered as subhumans and everything turned opposite

>>515078172
>nupol is browns seething about blonde people
Just live vicariously by watching DBZ like the cartels, damn.

>>515061250 (OP)
It never did, though. Golden Timmies look apelike in a bad way.

>>515076619
>when did it became the backwards
the jews won, if you kill all jews it will go back to the old ways, please leave us barbarians alone

>turkish roach is posting racial disharmony
Why didn't you buy a VPN?
Nobody is taking you seriously

>>515078281
>because blacks are the most superior in physical form to every race?

Caucasians are stronger and swim faster (I do include Turks in the strong category, so you're not completely useless Mehmet, in fact there is a French saying, "strong as a Turk").
Caucasians are more athletic generally (just watch the Olympics).
West Africans run faster (short distance).
East Africans run faster (long distance).
East Asians have better hand/eye coordination and speed.

>>515078369
they love the golden hair

>>515078412
>posting real historical quotes is racial disharmony
so you're agreeing or not?

>>515077625
Didn't Rocky beat Ivan Drago in the movie?

>>515078720
sshh, dont tell him

>>515061250 (OP)
>OP

>>515078281
Dude why does every swarthy poster on this website have interacial porn fantasies.
Literally every single time, you people bring it up lmao.
>because blacks are the most superior in physical form to every race?
That's a tough one. Blacks have lankier limb dominates bodies which let them excel at certain sports while Whites are overall the tallest, largest, strongest race.
>well, I don't agree. most prosperous atm?
Why? They literally invented everything, there is ZERO argument you could make to the contrary.
>not much blondie comes up when you think a past european inventor/scientist
Eh, that's kind of fair. The best investors all had blue eyes tho.
The rocket scientist that brought us to the moon was a tall, blond haired blue eyed German Aryan.

>>515078720
>>515078786
Would've been a boring, anticlimactic, underdog story if the privileged elitist just smashed the scrappy underdog.

There is a reason why movies often cast tall blond guys as the bully characters.
It is a stereotype for a reason.

>>515061393
learn about the german myth of the Red jew. There is something real to the Ginger's have no soul joke. Greeks belived they turned into vampires after death.

>>515061587
brown people can have blue eyes, niggers too. i dont know why blue eyes are depicted as some whites only racial trait. you can find the blackest nigger you ever saw with blue eyes. theyre rarer yes, but theyre still present. ancient people probably would have worshipped those ones when they hadnt pooped up. green eyes are especially popular historically speaking in that armenia/iran region too.
we know today how eye color is spread genetically through rng and by avoiding the dominant brown eye trait. so one blue eyed person has a child with brown eyes who says "its over im not even white" and race mixes, producing more brown eyed offspring, then x generations later, poof, a lucky rng.

>>515062942
Literal Turknigger lol

>>515079167
>Literally every single time, you people bring it up lmao
it was you who brought physical qualities like height and muscle strenght when it had no relation to the topic whatsoever
>Why? They literally invented everything, there is ZERO argument you could make to the contrary.
dude it's pathetic. feels like im talking to a wall. zero intellectual capacity. even LLMs have a bigger context windows than this. really makes you think about the "dumb blonde" """""stigma"""""". maybe romans were right about the "sluggish intelligence" of northern people
>>515076140

>>515079449
you're agreeing with dumb and blonde association? bullies; low inhib, large bodied beasts with subpar intelligence? isnt that exactly how you define all Blacks?

>>515061250 (OP)
The moment they decided to write abstract text regarding that topic
>Hurr durr I'm retarded shitposter and don't understand
Basically everyone is a racial supremacist for his own race. The definition of race can be broader or narrower but this ethnocentrism is an irrational, inherent element of our psyche. It doesn't mean it's good or bad, it just means it is there(and most likely has a purpose)
A jew is a jewish supremacist, a chinaman is a chinese supremacist, a slav is a slav supremacist. The Chinaman may also turn into east asian supremacist if confronted with people distant enough from him where the Japanese he normally hates looks like his countryman. It really takes strong programming and propaganda to make people stop being like that.

As for the explanations as to why they are superior it is meaningless, another function of human brain, just like ethnocentrism. Do you even know what the Greco-Roman reason for white people being dumb was? Too cold and wet makes humours unbalanced. If you think this is real deal please tell your doctors you need to draw some blood next time you have fever.

>>515061250 (OP)
Well you know what brown people are synonymous with. Shit.

>>515077625
Stallone is a jew

I never understood how you can even get mad at these threads lol, quite literally just brown people being jealous. Be proud of your blue eyes

>Well you know what brown people are synonymous with. Shit.

>I never understood how you can even get mad at these threads lol, quite literally just brown people being jealous. Be proud of your blue eyes

>>515079449
Tall blonde guys are usually nice irl and I'm an ethnic manlet

>>515079730
>it was you who brought physical qualities like height and muscle strenght when it had no relation to the topic whatsoever
Right my bad, forgot that you can't have a talk about physicality without interracial sex.
>feels like im talking to a wall. zero intellectual capacity
Nigger, your argument was that "Whites have only invented everything within the last 100 years" which is just blatantly wrong.
I am simply just correct here dude. You are wrong.
>bullies
>large bodied beasts
You self insert into the bullied characters huh.

>>515061250 (OP)
>>515061393
Oh it's a jewish thread, got it

>>515079730
I go bed now, good night!.

>>515080139
Imagine googling pictures of ugly people to make yourself feel better about looking like an arab

>>515061250 (OP)
my two cents:

Romano-Hellenics observed and appreciated light as no other civ. This is well documented. I'd think, as light eyes/hair let light go through in many more lighting situations, making faces brighter and eyes more expressive, the reason why they gave value to it.

tl;dr: nords are light-lets

>>515061250 (OP)
only a brown subhuman would try to demoralize white people today by trying to make them out to be savages two thousand years ago

>>515080468
isnt Italy white?

Disgusting turkroach is seething because in countries like Turkey being white actually grants you an immediate high caste status.
Seriously, look at Turkey's media. Their series, movies, ads, anything.
They glorify white features.

>>515061250 (OP)
When we stopped taking faggot greek and greek-larpers opinions on it

>>515061250 (OP)
>Implying blonde monkeys ever stopped being subhuman

>>515081426
turkish foids glorify brown low inhib criminals though
>>515080468
they were savages, according to real historical facts. not 2000 years ago but merely 500 when dark age has ended. do you just not believe what your hitlerman says?
>>515080245
pic related
>>515073792

>>515061250 (OP)
Never
Scandiniggers are the most cucked, pathetic, effeminate subhumans on the planet.

The whiter you are the more cucked you are. FACT.