Thread 515063971

can't wait to liberate Venezuela.

>>515063971 (OP)
Oh boy another war

>>515063971 (OP)
I thought it's no more foreign entanglements, no more wars and no more regime changes. Weird

>>515063971 (OP)
MAGA is officially dead

>>515064200
>Give a shitload of money and weapons to Guyana
>Intel & air support, plus advisers and MPC
>Spy on every important person in Venezuela, blackmail them or promize them a place in the new government
>Guyana take over Vuvuzela.
>The US have all the oil contracts in the greater Guyana
Name one flaw.

Based.

>>515063971 (OP)
Did Venezualans ever ask us for help?

>>515064358
Except it's going to be mutt boots on the ground because Guyana doesnt have a substantial population nor army

>>515063971 (OP)
Mass disarmament is now a right wing ideal

>>515064142
Nothing about Venezuela could even result in a war. They have no military to speak of. We could topple the country with the 2nd Marine Division and some Naval air support.
There is nothing good about Venezuela left and there hasn't been anything good about Venezuela now since 2012 or so. People have been starved and killed, Maduro and his folks basically are the only people benefitting from the country at all. The people that haven't left or died of starvation have to keep their heads down or they get yanked into a van in the middle of the night and the next time their family sees them their tongue has been pulled through a gash in their throat.
If there was any "regime change" I think we could at least do a little good from...it would probably be Venezuela...as compared to some shit fuck country that is annoying Israel.

>>515064566
Call it whatever you want, it's warfare and you know it. I know you're completely disingenuous but why lie here?

>>515064566
All it takes is one of our enemies to supply guerrillas with weapons. They hide in the shadows and murder Americans until we get sick of it and leave. Then there is civil war. It’s happened before and we never learn. At least a lot of people make a lot of money.

>>515063971 (OP)
we are going to make venezula jewish again!

Bump

>>515063971 (OP)
>lose in Ukraine
>lose in Iran
>lose against China
>Israel's off the leash
oh shit we gotta win something
>let's bully that pipsqueak in our back yard
would be so funny if you lost in Venezuela too

>>515064764
I'm not disingenuous at all. I had friends in Venezuela when Chavez was running the country. It was a bit socialist but it was a developing nation and a developing economy at the time. Then the CIA under Bush and Obama decided to fuck with that for whatever reason...probably because they didn't like the nationalization of the oil there and where they thought it would get sold to and now its been basically 15 fucking years of a state run by a empty suit that caters to cartels and gangs.
No one in Venezuela is happy, its not a good place to live, we're not in any way going to make anything WORSE than it already is.
All we'd be doing is cleaning up a mess our own intelligence establishment created.
Hopefully we'll fix it better than we fucked it....cause we DID fuck it.

>>515064989
>muh Vietnam comparisons
We didn't have cruise missiles in the 60s grandpa.

>>515064358
5 million more spics up your ass, how about that flaw

is this Donnie threatening war just to get that shitty Nobel peace prize?

Why no regime change in England, or Germany, or Sweden?
Who gives a fuck about Venezuela.

>>515065302
>All we'd be doing is cleaning up a mess our own intelligence establishment created.
By going to war. Just admit it dude Jesus, this word vomit isn't helping you.

>>515063971 (OP)

Anything to divert from epstein information being released..

>>515065090
But the navy is gay.

Lmao

>>515065443
It’s in our backyard. Frankly I don’t understand why the U.S. tolerated communist regimes popping up in Latin America. The most egregious example being Cuba just 90 miles away.

>>515063971 (OP)
Hahahahah Mutts are about to be humiliated again.

>>515064989
What this anon said. Plus our military is a complete joke and has been for years at this point.
>>515065356
>Muh cwuize missiles!!!!!
You think that’s gonna help much in dense jungle foliage?

>>515065477
Admit what? That I think literally anything, including us invading Venezuela would be a better end result for Venezuela than the current situation they're in? We're talking about a country with a less functional quality of living than Mexico here. There isn't a single place in South America that is worse off than Venezuela right now...and its because of us, we fucked that country over. I entirely think its justified for us to go fix it.

>>515065356
You did in Iraq and Afghanistan tho

> six times the size of south vietnam
> mountainous regions
> home to all manners of tropical diseases
> major oil supplier
> major immigrant supplier

>>515064566
>We could topple the country with the 2nd Marine Division and some Naval air support.
Then do it.

>>515065588
BackyarDDD!?
What about the Mexican cartels.
What about the jews, the jeets and the niggers.

>>515065722
Thank you. I just wanted to confirm that you're just as much of a liar as Trump. President of Peace, lmfao, what a joke.

miga is a cult

>>515065722
I think their government’s mismanagement did much more damage.

>>515063971 (OP)
Pretty hard calling Putin the bad guy at this rate

>>515065681
>You think that’s gonna help much in dense jungle foliage?
Oh yes everything in South America is the Amazon rain forest boomer. Everything everywhere is Amazon rain forest. Its ALL JUNGLE.
Not that LIDAR gives a fuck about trees but lets not get too technical for you, you can't even Google Map the fucking place before you type bullshit.

>>515065722
A humanitarian invasion to protect kike capital, LGBT rights, feminism and nigger worshipping

>>515063971 (OP)
Why are we not letting these shithole countries sort themselves out? The more we keep getting involved, the more dependent they are on us, and the more we will have to keep getting involved because they will never learn to form a stable society.

>>515065838
If I had to choose between invading Venezuela and invading another shit hole desert country for Israel...I am pretty sure I know which one is the more humanitarian choice of the two.

>>515065722
>would be a better end result for Venezuela
k but America...? You want to make that sacrifice then you do it.

>>515063971 (OP)
Who cares what other countries do? The US can't provide lasting change unless they plan to stay there indefinitely. I know the US won't abandon Israel, but this will just be another Afghanistan, Iraq, or Vietnam.

>>515065904
Their government is a direct result of our coup against Chavez. And Obama was quite happy to just let it happen.

>>515064420
...yet. If you pay them, they can get half a million of men in uniform and in one year you can train them to be okay warriors. With your air superiority and the Vuvuzela's army not really being ready to die to protect that shit, especially if you buy a general or two, the oil is yours and the drug trade stop.

>>515066058
If it goes off the rails those venezuelan commie brownoids will be flooding the Us border.
And the jews will guilt trip all the normies to let them in.
When they're in they will start pushing and advocating for communism.

>>515063971 (OP)
hoping for alot dead zogbots

>>515065722
Bleeding heart American:
>People not doing well out here, what to do:
>remove restrictions we imposed on them
>bomb some of folks
tough choice

>>515066068
How about neither??

>>515064566
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

>>515066068
We are not a desert people, we do not belong in the desert. I say let the Arab states conquer Israel and rule over the Levant. They can have the sand and rocks.
The fertile soil and forested lands belong to the white man.

>>515064142
Nah, just drone diosdado and maduro while they speak in public and bribe the rest.

>>515066081
It wouldn't even cost us anything. Its literally right across the ditch from us. 90% of what we'd throw at it would take off from air fields in Texas and Florida and its all stuff we just have sitting there anyways.
This would take a week tops and we'd fix a lot of problems and perhaps give that country a chance at a different destiny than the one we left it with.

>>515066058
This is about China and Russia.
US doesn't want China to capture Venezuela and control it. The chinks are already planning to sell weapons to them. And they're getting oil from there.

If the US controls V, the price of oil and gasoline could go down, thus screwing Russia too. It's 2 birds with one stone.
Didn't Trump promise gasoline prices would go down if he gets a second term

>>515064566
Hey that's just crazy man, how's that Houthi situation going again.

>>515066125
The Venezuelan majority voted for the opposition candidate in last year’s election but Maduro stayed in power through fraud and military force. Maduro isn’t popular at all and there won’t be a power vacuum once he’s gone.

>>515063971 (OP)
This is for Israel somehow, isn't it.

>>515066193
It already has gone off the rails. I was watching Venezuelan villagers burn each other to death 15 years ago on the YNC.
Fuck every genetic strain south of the border, they have the Aztec gene.

>>515065431
No, Vz. is allied with Russia. Can't have enemies on your doorstep, though Russia is expected to tolerate it.

>>515064358
it never works out the way the Americans think it always becomes a bogged down war where the US gets flooded with refugees and drugs this time will be no different.

>>515066377
I don't know I don't give a fuck about Houthis or anything else in the Middle East, I think the only people that care about Houthi's are people that depend on the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf for their shipping routes and that doesn't include me.

>>515063971 (OP)
And it has nothing to do with drug cartels.

>>515063971 (OP)
Remember.

>>515063971 (OP)
at least the US-of-farce is honest now again for all the world to seee. even the most stupid. their hypocrisy in the last 40 years were unbearable for anyone with more than 3 neurons.

ICJ will prosecute them - im sure of it.

>>515063971 (OP)
Why no regime change in Cuba? Aside from no oil there.

>>515063971 (OP)
LETS FUCKING GOOOO I LOVE WARS OMG

>>515066336
Well then we should have just finished what we started in the 80's.

>>515064358
>The US have all the oil contracts in the greater Guyana
this frog- and snailfeeder still thinks its all about oil... like back in the 50s and 70s...

>>515066550
Oh okay.
Well, we've been bombing countries for 50 years now and it's not really solved any problems but bombings followed by a regime change will fix them this time.

All it took was Exxon lobbying the Trump admin and America is BACK.

>>515064358
Map aesthetics wise, a greater Guyana sounds disgusting. I’d rather see Gran Colombia make a return

>>515066412
He's not going anywhere. China and Russia will arm the cartels and militias and once American troops start dying the public will be up in arms and Trump will pull them out in shame blaming Hegseth or the "deep state". Bay of pigs all over again.

>>515063971 (OP)
I can’t wait to take more brown refugees! Don’t you just love Trump showing everyone how anti-war and isolationist-pilled he is?! MIGA!

>>515066608
I feel like that’ll only be done if Marco Rubio was president.

>>515063971 (OP)
so you've enlisted anon?

>>515066412
South Vietnam's president also won the majority but he was still hated and killed with CIA influence.

>>515063971 (OP)
>can't wait to liberate Venezuela.
cant you liberate your nigger ghettos first
there more drug traffic in one random nigger no go zone than the entire venezuela

>>515066784
>humanity is overrated
yeyii my country did something

>>515066446
Of course it is. It's a power grab for the drug trade.

>>515063971 (OP)
Pete hegseth is a shitskin

>>515065302
Karakas in 3 days. Kanye West concert in Palacio de Miraflores in the evening on the 3rd day

>>515063971 (OP)
Is it feasible for USA to conduct a maritime blockade of Venezuela instead of actually attacking them? That should crash their economy and especially trade pretty hard.

>>515066446
>Trump’s Law: any action done by Trump is done for the benefit of Israel in some way
Ofc it is, as per Trump's Law, it could not be for another reason

>>515064566
its funny how US main-shit-media zombies always forget to mention the decades of illegal sanctions, the funding of terror-groups (MSM calls them "opposition") and the way worse condition under the previous US backed dictatorships.

different decade - same US-shit.

i hope i will live to see the day your shithole meme-nation gets erradicated of the maps.

>this nigger loving troon cuck may also believe that the "monroe-doctrin" was and is for the good of central and souther america and not for the US-empire over them.

>>515063971 (OP)
>Funding billions to Israel
>Funding Ukraine's defense (reluctantly)
>Bombing Iran
>Regime-change Venezuela

"America first" lmao

Everyone in this thread pretending a military action in Venezuela is somehow a dangerous prospect are the same people that were saying us bombing Iran would start WW3.
No ones going to burn their country to the ground for Venezuela.
Us fucking Maduro out of power is to the net benefit of everyone in Venezuela not to mention South America as a whole.
Its likely to incentivize Venezuelans to move BACK to Venezuela if there is some kind of prospect for a life beyond being a government share cropper or a gang member.
So seriously keep on with your doom and gloom but Venezuela could be solved with a couple of drone strikes and the news cycle would run out of things to say about it within 3 days because it would be over.
Venezuela is not a military power, there is no one in Venezuela that is willing to die for Maduro, not even the gangs. We could invade that country by activating a couple national guard battalions for a weekend.

So what’s this shit really all about? Is it really just because of the oil?

>>515067303
>Put oil in pan
>Knocks on the door

>>515064200
Venezuela sent millions of biological weapons into the US. They started it

>>515067267
venezuela can be americas ukrainian 3 day SMO

based
venezulea should american colony!

>>515067049
They still have a land border with Colombia and Brazil. Decapitation strikes on the Venezuelan regime’s leaders are the best option.

>>515067303
the exon loicense was revoked
there is also some lithium, as I heard.

>>515067408
Unlike Venezuela, Ukrainian's hadn't spent the last 15 years being starved to death and killed by their own government...to my knowledge.

>>515067303
Yeah pretty much. Pro peace ticket at it again.

>>515067408
>3 day SMO
it will be the actual 3 day SMO since general Milley was the author of that claim

>>515067711
A humanitarian bombing

i dont remember voting for this one. I am pretty cool on most other things he has done but this irks me a little

There has to be a bigger picture here. Maybe its the oil or maybe Maduro really does allow the cartels to operate freely

>>515067653
>smarmy reddit oil tard stuff
You're a world super power and you have 300 billion barrels of heavy crude on your side of the map.
And you're just going to let.....people on the other side of the map have that then? Sounds like you don't understand game theory at all.

>>515063971 (OP)
This kike admin has really gone mask off as of late

>>515067711
thats quite an exxageration. they have a decent army and paramillitary police. they also spend all their oil money on weapons. theres not that many good targets for bombing ie. their strength isnt reliant on tech so much so the only way is boots on the ground in some sweltering hellhole. alao, the whole world will now be on venezuelas side because of how the trump admin has been acting people want to see the muttmericans taken down a peg

>>515063971 (OP)
The peace president

>>515067477
>Decapitation strikes on the Venezuelan regime’s leaders are the best option
You should ship newest top of the line Iphones for their elites and Motorola walkie-talkies for their bots in the military and police as a gesture of goodwill.

>>515067999
Youre tonguing jewish anus thats whatsup

>>515068068
>hats quite an exxageration. they have a decent army and paramillitary police.
Is this for real or just cope? I think we'll lose since our army is gay and complete bullshit. But I didn't think Venezuelans had much in terms of combat force.

>>515067999
>Maduro mentions the Epstein files
>literally just a few days later Trump puts a bounty on him
>a few weeks later he prepared a whole fleet for an invasion
Obviously they want the resources but more than anything he is a threat to ZOG.
They do NOT give a shit about the cartels, that the Israelis trained and the US/Israel armed.

>>515067999
Its definitely the oil but as I said to the other guy, its a 300 billion barrel reserve and its on our side of the map. We're not going to let that go to the other side of the map.
And in the process we get to at least let the people there live a slightly better life where they might actually benefit from their own natural resources in some way as compared to now, where Maduro will sell it to China/Russia and pocket the difference for himself and his cronies.
Of course theres an ulterior motive, but its entirely logical strategy and there is a potential upside on the humanitarian side of things to so its win/win really.

>>515064142
>>515064200
>>515064255
They'll just say
"NO MORE WARS IS DEMOCRACT HOAX!"

>>515068159
nah

just like watching faggots like you squirm

You have the relationship wrong. Israel is the puppet state for the MIC. Billions go into and then come back as defense orders for the pentagon

>>515067999
I wouldn't be surprised, especially in foreign currencies. I really wouldn't be surprised if Cartel supplies him with US dollars and he facilitates their operations in Venezuela.

>>515063971 (OP)
Kick that commie off his high horse!

>>515068264
stop plebbit spacing, you fucking newfag cancer. Go back.

>>515066150
with what money, mbembe??

>>515068217
They don't they have a military special police force that works directly for Maduro that is effectively their most competent unit of people. And they spend most of their time killing other Venezuelans so they're not a popular bunch.
If its apparent that America is rolling amphibs up a beach.....a lot of people in Venezuela are going to dig up the guns they've hidden and they won't be aiming them at Americans.

>>515064142

think of all of the oil yankbro
and think of all the oil you can trade with us

>>515064200
Maduro Hussein y Hitler has weapons of mass destruction that can reach both the atlantic seaboard and Israel.

>>515063971 (OP)
Do it. Hoping for kino footage. Bored of the middle east and Ukraine wars

>>515063971 (OP)

Someone said than there are 2 Tupolev 160's at Venezuela right now....and they can carry nukes. Bye bye muricans.

>>515068364
Seethe harder on the internet. maybe someone will care in the real world

So what did Venezuela do to upset Israel?

>>515068756
They call out to americans to rebel against israel evwry other week

>>515063971 (OP)
Weekend soldier thinking he's tough.
But do fuck up those communists and drug dealers.

>>515068756
Other than recognizing the Gaza situation as a genocide, this is entirely because of oil discovered in a disputed area off the cost of Guyana and Venezuela.
Exxon has been lobbying the US government for a decade now for this.

>>515068421
They said the same about Iraq and Afghanistan

>>515068068
>the whole world will now be on venezuelas side

>>515069402
There’s a difference between religious fanatics and hired goons. No one is going to die for Maduro.

>>515069535
The same was said about Vietnam

>>515069670
Nah, everyone knew at the time that there would be millions of Vietnamese willing to die for Ho Chi Minh.

>>515069534
Do you welcome americans as liberators or what?

>>515068521
>Hoping for kino footag
Don't wait for much, at most it will be like the fall of Bashar al-Assad in Syria, with the government collapsing in literally two weeks.

>>515063971 (OP)
>hoholstan maidan in 2014 is fake news
>lets invade venezuale and change the regime

Nothing ever fucking happens.

>>515064566
>Nothing about Venezuela could even result in a war
kek same mindet about afghanistan
Nothing there to threaten you and still pumping trillions of dollars into nothing. The American people never get anything out of this type of operation but the bill for them to pay

>>515069898
70% will welcome them with arepas and open arms. 20% will switch sides for convenience. And perhaps 10% will try to kill as many opposition members as possible in an act of resentment, and perhaps go into hiding in the south of the country where the jungles are, seeking to join the colombian narco-guerrillas financed by the government.

Although I doubt that the ELN and the FARC will remain loyal after the government loses power, they will at least try to keep the gold and diamond mines.

>>515063971 (OP)

up to WHO?

>>515065722
>Every war we've gotten into just made things worse for the county we went to war against, and for ourselves...but it'll be different this time!

>>515065090
If the navy figured out they can have sex with women

>>515070624
None of those countries the U.S. entered were failed states facing economic collapse before the intervention. That’s what Venezuela is today.

>>515063971 (OP)
>Secretary of war
Wait, i thought the department of war was just a meme lmao

>>515070476
That's interesting. I think you should be worried about venezuela becoming like colombia. It would be a different kind of shithole.

>>515070624
bro, it'll be over by Christmas, just two more weeks to flatten Maduro

>>515069402
no one is going to die for maduro. Most remember or know of Pre Chavez era. Venezuela had the 3rd highest standard of living on the continent, and half the country was legit a middle class

>>515070774
No more foreign wars, chickenhawk.

>>515067933
I love this claim, because you can spot a shill from a continent away when they attribute it to the vodka niggers.

>>515064142
At least it's not for Israel this time.

>>515070958
Many people here are already migrating to Colombia, so if our country achieves the same level of stability as theirs (poor), it would already be an improvement.

>>515063971 (OP)
"Venezuela, that was some mean bush. Nothing like that here, though. You got some heart, kid, showin' up here."
We're moving out of the Dune timeline into the Avatar timeline. ExoSuits on!

>>515071044
Getting involved in wars in the Western Hemisphere is fine, too many anti-US regimes close to our country. I agree that foreign wars aren’t necessary outside of the hemisphere though.

>>515063971 (OP)
this is going to make other countries start to argue that we are out of control and must be stopped

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>>515071237
Who cares

>>515063971 (OP)
I just hope Trump takes with him the maximum number of Maduro's followers possible.When the Americans get to my city, I'll give them orange juice and arepas with cheese.

This is just fake manliness to cope with being owned by Israel.

>>515063971 (OP)
Final solution for the commie brownoid narcotics network?
Can't wait for CCP fentanyl labs to be bombed.

>>515065237
Meanwhile Pooland hasn’t won a conflict in a thousand years. Stay losing yvgeny

>>515063971 (OP)
pete hegseth won't have a makeup studio in the international criminal court

>>515063971 (OP)
There's oil in Venezuela??

>>515064566
>We could topple the country with the 2nd Marine Division and some Naval air support.
Doubt.jpg
> Maduro and his folks basically are the only people benefitting from the country at all.
If that was the case, venezuala would have collapsed a long time ago.

>>515064566
>There is nothing good about Venezuela left
They do have oil though. Even more than Arabia.

>>515064566
The military is in precarious conditions; they would hardly last three days in combat before giving up. However, I would be careful with the paramilitary groups, as they are trained in guerrilla warfare.

>>515064142
Oh boy not my problem

>>515071871
You serious? The largest reserves on Earth.

>>515064413
https://www.csis.org/analysis/persistence-venezuelan-migrant-and-refugee-crisis
yes.
go the fuck home.

>>515064566
Evey thread until you learn
Repeat after me /pol/.
>Latin America/South America is not another Vietnam or the Middle East.
For starters, this part of the world is truly devoid of race (and therefore of people and countries), so true loyalty doesn't exist beyond families.
There won't won't glorious last stands, self-sacrifices, or complex plans to outsmart American troops. The moment the fight gets heated, insubordination and desertion will become common.

Second, unlike the Middle East, no Islam or religion that pulls everybody together to fight. We don't have 72 virgins waiting for us if we die in battle, no religious leader will mention you in his sermons, and nobody will write hymns to the martyrs. Your death will be pointless and quickly forgotten by everybody besides your family.

If there is a region in the world where Americans would be welcome as liberators, it is this one, and everybody saying otherwise is just copping or hasn't reached the level of understanding on how important race is in the formation of true countries

Latin Americans lack any ideology, philosophy, emperor, religion, or civilization to die for, which is why the wars are easy and the development impossible.

>>515063971 (OP)
I have a feeling that isrealhell is behind all of this..

>>515066471
Venezuela did what exactly?

Why do you guys actually imagine our soldiers fighting anything? He only send bombs or send troops into our cities or on the border

>>515067999
at least you have the decency to hold on to your principles, unlike a majority of maga /pol/tards who switch their stances daily depending on Trump's morning tweet
fuck it's pathetic, the far right deserves better

>>515072579
and its total shit and you always leave that out

>>515064142
And last week Trump wanted people to nominate him for the Nobel Peace award

>>515063971 (OP)
how many jews live in Venezuela?

Republicans fuck kids.
Everybody knows it.

>>515067384
>THEY HAVE BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS
>THEY HAVE CHEMICAL WEAPONS
>THEY HAVE WMDS
>THEY HAVE YELLOWCAKE
>THEY HARBOR TERRORISTS
>THEY HATE DEMOCRACY
>THEY HATE OUR FREEDOMS
Yes very original.

>>515064499
Mass disarmament of who?

>>515063971 (OP)

For the love of god, no more fucking refugees!!! We already have like 300.000 of them down here, we don't want any more.

Let them rot in their commie hell hole, like the Cubans. They serve as an example to the rest.

>>515064358
>Give a shitload of money and weapons to Guyana
95% would be stolen.
>Spy on every important person in Venezuela, blackmail them or promize them a place in the new government
Without direct oversight they would just bribe the venezuelans and report nothing to the USA.

>>515063971 (OP)
Fake account

>>515076698
Kek

>>515065090
Artist?

>>515063971 (OP)
Every single picture of Hegseth just sceams overcompensating beta faggot trying too hard.

>>515063971 (OP)
Good thing all the American patriots elected a no new wars president. Good job guys.

>>515070476
This is the most realistic scenario

>>515071200
>what is the school of the Americas
Maybe shut down CIA operations everywhere in the hemisphere t hat have poisoned, hamstrung, and enfeebled everyone here, including America. I'd be anti-US as well

>>515063971 (OP)
>can't wait to liberate Venezuela.
never fighting again until the jew is destroyed.
many people say and think the same.
my children know about the jew, and how their jewish harvest is to be avoided until the synagogue of satan is destroyed.

>>515063971 (OP)
how can I blame this on George Soros???

>>515080690
daily reminder

>>515063971 (OP)
>The US attacking somebody not on the opposite side of the world
Imagine Texas or Florida gets bombed because Trump thought attacking some random South American country would make him look cool