Thread 515071177

is /pol/ a christian board?

>>515071177 (OP)
To be a Christian you must force yourself to believe in miracles.
How can anyone believe in miracles? That is fairy tale shit

>>515071177 (OP)
Christians are fun to bully. Theyre a joke in 2025 and nobody takes them seriously.

>>515071177 (OP)
Does anyone really have time to go to church anymore?

>>515071609
Its on a Sunday though
Most people are just sitting in their homes

there are Christians here

>>515071177 (OP)
It’s a Jewish board

>>515071177 (OP)
every big strawpoll i've seen on this topic since 2012 has shown 40% of the board is Christian, then the 60% is split between religions like atheism, paganism, hinduism, muslim, judaism, etc.

>>515071466
One of the attributes of God is the All-Powerful, so He can do miracles. Your logic is invalid.

>>515071466
what are miracles?
>uhhh i don't know man
how about "weird things happening that shouldn't but aren't actually logical impossibilities."
>uhh sure whatever
physicists say the universe can be conceived of as a vast, digital computation device, or as the output of a deterministic or probabilistic computer program. basically we live in a simulation, like a videogame
>ugh, what's your point?
videogames have cheat codes and developer tools, the dev could do some weird stuff (miracles) if they wanted to
>uhhh why are you roleplaying a conversation with me? what's wrong with you?
atheists are boring and getting to this point naturally would've been tedious.

>>515072497
>uh well if I define the supernatural as actually not being logically im-
Opinion discarded, get a clue, lackwit

>>515071177 (OP)
That is a question for each individual to answer for him or zer self.

>>515071860
This really is more accurate, if you consider actual ownership and/or control.

>>515071924
The god of the Bible is not all powerful.
But yes he can do miracles, so your point stands.

>>515071526
>Theyre a joke
Just like you

>>515072770
on what basis do you define supernatural acts as logically impossible?
>w-w-well... y-you can't prooooo--
note that you can't cower behind the shield of agnosticism if you're making a knowledge claim that it is impossible for a supernatural agent to exist.

chritianity is just another mask anon put on to troll people.

I wish Christianity was true honestly, but yeah I dont believe in miracles.

>>515073066
depends on how we're defining all-powerful.
the title PANTOKRATOR (greek form of the latin omnipotent) is used a ton in revelation for God. (1:8, 4:8, 11:17)

if you're saying He's not all powerful because He can't do logically impossible things like making a square circle, married bachelor, or allowing for the existence of free will without the possibility of evil, then i'd take issue with that since the inability to do things that can't logically be done wouldn't take away from an entity's claim to be able to do all things, since impossible things aren't things.

>>515073747
is that your biggest hangup?
a precommitment to naturalism?

>>515073914
yeah it is

>>515073852
> depends on how we're defining all-powerful.
Probably, but I don’t think you helped anything.
If you are trying to claim god can do anything that doesn’t result in contradiction, then that is a different god than the one in the Bible.

It only makes sense to call him all-powerful if you mean “god has all the powers one can have, but not necessarily all the (logically consistent) powers one can imagine”, but that gets reduced to
>God can do the things that God can do
Which doesn’t help anything.

>>515073852
Forgot to point out, God actually does violate logic with his miracles in the Bible, so your definition is even less useful.

>>515073914
i just won't worship a gay jew. fuck that shit

/pol/ is a chaos bored...

>>515071466
>How can anyone believe in miracles? That is fairy tale shit
Glad to see you are a logical fellow.

>>515074308
saying "God can do all things that are logically possible" isn't circular, it's a meaningful boundary.
for example "creating a square circle" isn't a power, it's a contradiction in terms.
it's not a limitation of God's power, but a limitation of language and logic.
as for the biblical portrayal, the term pantokrator used in revelation (and elsewhere) aligns with the philosophical view of omnipotence i'm using, supreme authority over all creation and not the ability to violate logic.
so yes, God can do all things, but "things" here means coherent actions and not nonsense like deep frogging a spaghetti eleventy on decibel blue.

>>515071466
>fairy tale
ESL r/atheist migrant

>>515074841
Are you a bot or just retarded? You are arguing against something I never claimed and have in no way addressed anything I did say.

This isn’t even a strawman of my position, it’s a pure hallucination of a position that was not offered.

>>515075115
Hmmm that was weird, my memeflag changed.

imagine worshipping a jew