Thread 515084178

Realistically, how could a foreign power defeat the US army? What are some of its main weaknesses? No psychological or cultural warfare, but on the battlefield.

>>515084178 (OP)
they cant

>>515084298
iraq vs ukraine comparison is retarded because if US is mil tech 10, iraq was a mil tech 1 country, while Ukraine is like mil tech 8+

>>515084178 (OP)
i am not going to tell you your weaknesses faggot, if there is anyone I am telling those it is the Russians which at least didn’t left me alone as a BBC cucked perma virgin

>>515084178 (OP)
bump

You don't need to fight the U.S. they'll gladly sell you their land. Invade? Just move there.

>>515084178 (OP)
if you prevent air superiority the americans will quickly fold
they're not nearly as good of soldiers as they say they are, as soon as a rock is thrown in their direction they call an airstrike to deal with it

>>515084178 (OP)

Ask the taliban or the VC.

>>515084178 (OP)
Gee I wondr

>>515084178 (OP)
Such questions are not helpful, no war is abstract, the specifics of the war and each side's victory conditions specify what needs to be done to win, asked a better question, like how would China depose the US regime.

Anyways, basically the US can invade any country that doesn't have nukes and ICBM capabilities; HOWEVER as the Iraq and Afghanistan have shown, America struggles to occupy the countries it invades, as it's not prepared to commit enough troops for a sustained occupation.

They've learned that since Iraq, the idea they were working with came from post WWII where they successfully occupied Japan and Germany, to this day; however the model didn't work for Iraq and Afghanistan as america failed to integrate them into it's global economy as they were too retarded to be able to participate in it, hence the population couldn't see the benefits of a western system, hence insurgency and without enough troops for long enough to enforce peace they lost popular support permanently and had to withdraw.

>>515084178 (OP)
Not true, in the first Iraq war, the Iraqi military was on par technologically with the soviet military, and at that time, Baghdad was as well defended from the air as Moscow, it made no difference. The US has alien tier tech, even during the Iraq war, just from the top of my head, they used one of those: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zyeTN-idEo to destroy an entire Iraqi armored division in one strike.

>>515088043

Sorry meant to reply to this anon: >>515085200

>>515084178 (OP)
Negate air superiority and force infantry engagements. The US army is truck drivers, the air force does the heavy lifting.

>>515088151
yeah, i am not going to defend my claim because I pulled the numbers out of my ass. I just thought Iraq looks brown so that they would be a lot less advanced.

>>515084178 (OP)
In a peer conflict basically just wait a couple weeks and US is out of missiles since US has zero surge capacity, a country like China could easily out industry the US if nukes aren't used

The US seems to have trouble with gorilla™ warfare.

>>515084178 (OP)
There might've been one person in the history of /pol/ both smart and educated enough in relevant fields to properly answer these kind of questions. Why do you keep asking?

>>515088043
>Iraqi military was on par technologically with the soviet military
Where tf do you get this shit from, Iraq had neither S300 nor tors, its air defence was like 2 generations behind soviet union. They were also at least one generation behind in jets and I'm talking their best jets, cause they were flying some antique shit that was long since discontinued in USSR and neither did they have, I'm guessing, shit in terms of air-to-air missiles.

>>515089917
Got it from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxmSmxhpmX0

but yeah you seem to be right, they largly had 70s tech, while the Soviets were running 80s tech, although Iraqis had limited quantites of cutting edge Soviet tech, muh bad.

>>515084178 (OP)
Use asymmetric warfare. Cheap kamikaze drones, car bombs, terrorist attacks, etc. until the will of the people to fight is broken.

>>515089917
>>515090780
*start minute 23.

>>515084178 (OP)
>Realistically, how could a foreign power defeat the US army?
China already did this. 1IC and soon to be 2IC is turning out to be a death trap for the USN. The US is really risk adverse to not get into a great power war. USA is not about that life anymore.

Mediocre training
Poor readiness
Top- heavy command structure
Excess proceduralism
Low casualty tolerance

The US military's winning aspects are infinite money and expensive weapon systems. Once they identify a target they can blow it up 20 different ways from surgical to shitshow. It's all about the weapon systems, as a fighting force they are good but nothing outstanding.

If you wanted to defeat the US military and were willing to attack the USA to do so the best bet would be to target air force bases to wreck bombing capability and the 10 [redacted] which would dislocate subsequent deployment.

>>515084178 (OP)
Drone swarms.

>>515084178 (OP)
Americans are born psycopathic killers whereas chinks can only pretend to be. If we were to go to war I would 100% want Americans on my side. The china parade dosnent mean shit in the heat of REAL combat, that's where the mutts shine.

Land in BC and the artic at the same time and take over Alaska, have air superiority and they can only bomb you via mid air refueling.

Ezpz. Hold and bleed out supplies and chuckle. Make them come to you or just move the entire Chinese navy to British Columbia.

Or just take over ports in BC, offload a few containers of drone swarms and then place them near the border.

>>515084178 (OP)
Anyone can defeat US army. Just wear a george floyd shirt and march into their headquarters. They will capitulate in no time.

>>515084178 (OP)
Overwhelming firepower, as usual.
>blow their shit up
Bring enough drones, hypersonics and other missiles that work, while defending somewhat effectively against US weapons.
That's the harder part. Killing a couple thousand marines will not be that difficult. The difficult part is preventing your own shit from also getting rekt in some form.

>>515084178 (OP)
Incompetence, bloating, too many rules, safety rules, procedures, soldiers are expected to fight with one hand tied by politicians, DEI in high positions, women

>>515084178 (OP)
1: By selling the politicians that command the army fent.
2: by fucking the general's daughter
3: by replacing the army with trannies
4: by joining the millitary and just being lazy
5: by inflating the US dollar
6: by instituting communism peacefully instead of violently
7: by purchasing the bank where all the soldiers keep their 200 dollars.
8: by asking a jew to call you racist
9: by taking you to court on the 3rd amendment
10: by teaching the soldiers to do pushups wrong
11: by purchasing the president a golden golf club
12: by marrying JD vance
13: by purchasing IBM and asking for your SSN
14: by asking bill gates to leave them alone
15: by doing nothing.
16: by going to highschool and beating a child to death
17: by becoming a US citizen and squatting on farmland with a gun
18: befriending a jew
19: counterfeit money.
20: by living 30 to a 2 bedroom home in DC

>>515084178 (OP)
the USA has the edge in air force as well as navy, so conventional attacks from rival powers would fail. the only hope would be WMDs, especially biological weapons 9because of the USA being an international hub)

>>515084178 (OP)
>No psychological or cultural warfare, but on the battlefield.

Anon... lets thing about this for a second. "On the battlefield"

You go to the battlefield to settle a disagreement, But everyone agrees with you. You may as well ask "who would like to die at my hand?"

Well... quite simply anon, nobody. You already won, yet something doesn't feel right.

>>515090780
By limited cutting edge tech you mean zero right?

>>515084298
This comparison is not at all apt

>Pay cartel to sneak in 10k drones
>Pay cartel to sneak in many chinks and chink engineers to operate said drones or to create ai to operate drones or a mix of the two for two prong attack
>Deliver thousands of drones to key targets; specifically DC
>Have drones armed with c4 and or effective explosives
>Have manned drones blow holes in buildings and ai drones target key leaders politicians, etc;
>Do this in other key places simultaneously
>hundreds to thousands of important people dead
>Hide who did it
>Repeat
>????
>Profit

>>515084178 (OP)
US is already infiltrated by the commies and its having its last spasms of death lol

>>515088043
>The US has alien tier tech

Nonsense.

It's entirely cultural. Nothing about it is "alien tier" aside from other cultures just being lazy.

The USA started with a communications blackout to create panic and fear. Then committed 100% to breaking Iraq as aggressively as possible. Iraq was confused, disorganized and wounded. They couldn't believe what was happening because the USA is culturally prepared to go stone cold and killer at the drop of a hat. To much of the world war is like the ukraine war. This awful hateful machine where you must kill your enemy to win.

Not so in the USA,

In the USA war is just "gibsmedat" injun raid tier. Which is why we didn't "occupy" Iraq properly.

We dumped thousands of tons of bombs because we are cowards,

We drove our tanks straight into bagdad and did it so fast the entrenched "Guard" didn't have time to do any guarding. Then we stole all of the gold. Planted a flag, had a larp battle called "feluja" so we could say it was a war then went home. You were the national equivalent of a mugging victim. We just had a fighter jet and a tank instead of a knife.

It's not alien-tier tech. It's being an autistic two faced skin-walker. Anyone else could do it if they were soulless goyem who was willing to miss a few nights of sleep.

Some anon is gonna mention drugs maybe, honestly, they arn't wrong. Fucked up but true.

Why does nobody just drop a bomb on them when they’re all in one place marching? Seems like the right time? Or is this proof positive that all armed conflict and war is fake and gay for Jew profit

>>515084298
Garbage comparison. Use us vs Ukraine instead.

>>515088725
>>515086607
Thank God we win. If not we would be a shithole like the Philippines

Invade gradually through the southern border until America's white majority is destroyed and the country gradually shreds itself from within due to lack of coherence or unity.

Official Chinese strategy is to just watch as we eat ourselves thanks to multikulti being implemented by the groups predominantly represented in media, politics, and finance.

>>515084178 (OP)
China can not defeat US on the US land and the same goes for the US

>>515084178 (OP)
Low morale methed up niggers make for a weak army.

Nobody is going to defeat the US. They can't even afford a war with the US. You can larp all day, but in the end you will only fuck yourself.
Meanwhile your talent is desperately fleeing your country to try to come live a better life here. They would rather come here and accept employment to actively work against you than to stay in your country.

>>515086607

Thats a little misleading the Vietnamese got tens of millions of dollars worth of weapons from the Russians and Chinese. Everything from small arms to advanced anti aircraft missiles.

>>515084178 (OP)
Drone saturation attacks. Someone like China could easily outproduce us before we could catch up (like what happened during covid).

>>515095585
>Nobody is going to defeat the US.
Except the Taliban, the Vietnamese and the Chinese during the Korean war

>>515084178 (OP)
Drones, hypersonics, and large-scale manufacturing. Basically exactly what China is doing right now.

>>515084178 (OP)
Just deny US air superiority and they shit themselves. They are also afraid of IEDs, so landmines and other booby-traps.might also prove very effective.

>>515095151
You are a shithole country still lmao. "Emerging market" is kike talk for shithole lmao.

>>515085200
The US has been claiming Russia as a rival, or equal adversary to justify feeding our military industrial complex. Really we have a secure lead, they haven't bridged the gap since the 90s.
In terms of intelligence and spookcraft, they might be better than us, desu. Look what the jews have done to our population, and our intelligence community were the jew boots on the ground in a war against their own citizens.
Our intelligence community is a fucking joke though.
>Oh we have an idea goyi-- I mean fellow special agents, lets get angry white people to become nazis, so we can dehumanize them and pacify the white peo-- I mean criminals so they can never threaten je-- I mean our democracy.
What a great idea Shlomo! Of course we'll help you fuck our race over while your people profit.

>>515088725
If america had went all out they could have won. With the mil tech they had not only could they have won but they could also have eradicated the population and made their lands barren. Stop being retarded

>>515096322
Pussy ass white boys fighting for trans rights wont do that shit. The US will always lose militarily to determined enemies

>>515084178 (OP)
Drop the power grid in populated areas and we will start killing eachother almost immediately, would only take a few days before we'd be past the pount of no return.

>>515096412
You're almost right, our army now is mostly all pussy ass niggers and spics fighting for trans rights. Not only will niggers always lose to determined enemies they will become the enemies at the drop of a hat.

>>515096412
You've never been gassed before so its just retardation you're spewing. The us will genocide your people if they think israel would benefit from it.

>>515095011
>Wall of text cope
>Anyone else could do it if they were soulless goyem who was willing to miss a few nights of sleep.
Take a look at Ukraine. Russians tried to do the same thing and failed miserably.

>>515085611
True. Their jets and tech carry them

consider these two points
1: there have been a few times when the news reporterd about possible ammo shortages several times. I think one was before 2020, and the other time was around iraq war i believe.
2: last year the news was reporting on phosphate shortages due to embargoes and such from russia, and canada.

i believe that they also use phosphate in the manufacture of black powder.

consider that biden drained their oil reserves to give to ukraine.

the us mil is basically a big bark.
its alot of bluffs . like the black box with a blinking light and they tell you its a camera but its just a box with a blinking light.

im pretty sure that the US military couldn't sustain an ongoing conflict without suffering a huge shortage of ammunition and they would mainly rely on ordinance, which I don't think they can keep up with replcements without outsourcing to other countries.

I also do not think they can sustain an ongoing conflict with severly affecting their oil and gas, as most of their mechanized infantry rely on oil.
but the higgher demand is used by the citizens.
which would cripply their infrastructure backhome becuase workers can get the gas to drive to work to make said bombs and ammo.

i think jet fuel isn't based on crude, but i doubt they have to capacity to keep up with refueling costs.

if you took out their nuclear wessels, then it can sustain a longer war of attrition and drain their resources and it would be fairly easy to "coopt/corese" foreign suppliers then the military would be using knives stones and sticks.

>>515084178 (OP)
Right now you could kick the tires on a Hum-Vee and it would result in the collapse of the military industrial complex.

>>515084178 (OP)
Overwhelming numbers.
We specialize in bvr and maneuver warfare because we assume that we will be outnumbered in any plausible war scenario.
Lock us into a defensive action where we can't leverage mobility and get in close to eliminate the effectiveness of our fire support and we will lose the war of attrition.

>>515095728
>Chinese
Damn didn't know Chang had metastasized to New Zealand, really should check in with your handlers though. It is a shameful display to bring up China's failing to aid the Norks in taking over the Korean Peninusula.

I hate you all so much. So much talking but not a single educated opinion
>drones
>car bombs
Faggots talking about tactics but defeating American military requires a strategy- any tactic can be countered.

The simplest answer is asymmetric warfare aimed at removing America's greatest assets
>Satellite technology
>food production

The next step is highlighting America's weaknesses
>too large to defend everything
>divided population
>stove piped power infrastructure

Defeating America would require setting conditions by sabotaging food production and electric infrastructure, followed by multiple feint landings, opening salvo aimed at destroying satellites, and then an information campaign that us government has surrendered and then have multiple regional politicians vying for control in a power vacuum. Any straight engagement to control through occupation would be folly. Only through food, energy, and information manipulation could a foreign power be successful at neutralizing the US military.

USA can only win a war if it has 100% air dominance and no meaningful enemy anti air capabilities. If that condition is missing, USA would need to completely change their military doctrine and weapon procurement from ground up. If your equipment is not manufactured in the thousands, you cant fight a peer opponent.

In other words USA relies on the enemy not being a peer opponent or even near peer. Any military power which has similar capability to USA but is not hobbled by inefficient military procurement will have a massive advantage.

>>515088043
>the Iraq

>>515085611
We have the best artillery in the world too.
This is often ignored because our airforce is so dominant that most countries dont even bother to really field an airforce.

>>515086607
>>515088725
Every war the US didn't fully win in the last 100 years was just due to lack of political support. Nothing was stopping us from winning in Vietnam or Korea. Taliban was also defeated, they "won" when we left, which was due to political reasons.

>>515084178 (OP)
Scatter poisoned burgers in the no-man's land. Either the Americans get shot trying to reach them or die from poisoning

>>515084178 (OP)
>No psychological or cultural warfare, but on the battlefield.
Homing pigeons with grenades

>>515086607
The army won every confrontation so

>>515097077
That's a really retarded thing to say. If you leave and a faction takes over the territory you previously occupied instantly without you explicitly installing them, then they were not defeated.

>>515096322
The US has enough bullets to kill everyone on the planet. Its something like a thousand bullets for every human alive.
Then we have our bombs. We have more ordnance than the entire rest of the world combined.
The US is very restrained in war. The objectives have never been eradication of a population. If they were, we could depopulate any continent, and have stockpiles enough for any other continent thinking to intervene. Assuming we could get weapons into the hands of soldiers willing to do any of that.
Hopefully /our zoomers/ inherit this empire of bullets and bombs.
Lots of people around the world have made it very clear what they think of us. India for example, has made an impression on American zoomers that might come back to them some day.

>>515084298

Cope more kike dog

A swarm of thousands of $1000 dollar drones could probably take out an entire aircraft carrier group. (Like all of the boats that surround the carrier, idk what it's called, fleet?) Our navy is probably pretty obsolete, similar to wwii when we stopped putting bigger and bigger cannons on ships because a submarine could dollar for dollar wreck that shit. That being said nobody ever takes mainland usa without nukes. The future is more and more drones and it seems we are behind every major player in this regard

>>515097077
>we didn't really lose
>we just gave up and went home
the soviets did the same thing in afghanistan in the 80s and your kind crow about how the soviets lost that one
we fucking lost in korea, lost in vietnam, lost in the first gulf war, lost in gwot
deal with it boomer

>>515097033
i think you might have the right idea.
engaging directly with military is folly.
if those youtube reels are true, then the best thing american military has is its insane logistics.
if you can cripple their logistics then they lose.
their logitsics is largely based on crude oil.
and the military aint exactly caring how high the mpg in their trucks are.
all the intelligence from sats would mean shit if they cant mobilize effectively on it.

otherwise consider new generation biological attack vectorswhich would definitly violate geneva conventions.
but then again if the us military was backed into a corner they would end up using nukes anyways.

>>515096617
The US has never gased anyone retard. They'll throw missles at anyone for israel sure but even those days are numbered.

>>515096608
True but modern liberal whites support all of this. The amount of good white men in the military is very low these days. Good men naturally left.

>>515084178 (OP)
US is self-defeating

>>515091578
We desperately want this, but we can’t throw the first punch. We so desperately want this, you seem to have no idea, it’s the last thing we need to happen before we usher in a one world government under our leadership. USA will obliterate any other major power 10x there is no comparison

>>515097033
>The simplest answer is asymmetric warfare aimed at removing America's greatest assets
Correct. But the greatest asset of America is not fucking food and satellites. Its people. The people trying to destroy you, are already attack America's greatest asset.
(You)
Its confusing, because the enemies are pretending to be your leaders and all these hostile factions are working (not together, but towards their own agendas) to turn Americans against Americans.
Its a problem because the multiculturalism is a huge fucking weakness to this type of warfare and strategy. But if you want to see America defeated, you're watching it happen. Even accelerating it to an extent. jews are scared shitless because they did so much to make all of this possible, they never imagined the rest of the world would help them destroy America when they needed America the most, they wanted to do it on their terms.

>>515084178 (OP)
funny as hell if china ruussia and iran start sending boatloads of drones and weapons to Venezuela and lock us into a guerilla war. hilarious shit.

>>515084298
>muh iraq war
We enjoyed pretty much total air superiority during both iraq wars, which meant the enemy was unable to make any good use of armor. We also had thermals/NV, while the iraq army didn't. We pretty much waited for nightfall and obliterated any large mass of troops.

Meanwhile, in Ukraine, we've been funneling high quality satellite data and just straight up targeting data for their weapon systems, allowing them to keep their radar off to stay safe from anti-radiation strikes. In an actual war, our AWACs and other assets like satellites would have been vaporized already, leaving both sides largely reliant on actual recon. With tremendous losses on both sides.

Which is the answer OP is asking about, target the technology and US doctrine completely shits the bed. I suspect it would be a bloody fight no matter what, but take away eye in the sky, almost omniscient levels of recon, and the instant communication between all units, and it would be a mess. Assuming we are talking about our only real near peer opponent, China, it would just start with 5th column chinks already here and in the military/civilian life engaging in widespread sabotage of our technology, and then missle strikes on all of our satellites.

Our schizo egalitarianism is what will ultimately cause us to lose. A sane country wouldn't allow even 3rd generation chinese immigrants to get into decision making positions in our military/government, but we happily do it. Never even considering how easy it would have been for communist china to ship some soldiers over to birth out manchurian candidates.

>>515095099
that would be ~58,000 over 20 years

So what Russia loses (depending on sources) in 3-8 months

>>515084178 (OP)
The same way you defeat any organised military.
You endure their assaults and engage irregularly to enhance their attrition by slicing their supply lines.
It's a battle of morale more than one of blood and bullets.
The US military are focused on shock and awe because they hope to avoid attrition problems by winning an early engagement. Why is attrition a problem for them? They have no countermeasure or infrastructure wherever they operate.
You can see the motive for the adversary in deliberately retarding their advance so as to attrit NATO.
Russia legitimately could have stormed Kiev and won in 3-5 days.
Instead they launched a special mission, extracted and executed whichever target they needed to secure, and halted in a defensive posture along natural fortifications and easily guarded positions, waiting for NATO to take every gun, bullet and shell in its arsenal and deploy it in carefully manoeuvred Russian cauldrons.
The purpose is pretty straightforward. They shot so much shit in Ukraine in the last 3 years that NATO is now unarmed and defenceless at home. Not civvies ofc.

>>515084298
>>515085200
>>515096223
comparing any war to the ukraine shitfest is retarded because there's like 10 other big league countries using ukraine as a proxy platform by shoving constant weaponry shipments and funding up their sockpuppet ass
genuinely one of the most retarded open-air "i'm not touching youuu" proxy wars we've probably see historically

>>515097406
>lost in the first gulf war
Turn off the vpn chink.

>>515084178 (OP)
>main weaknesses?
Tel Aviv having dirt on every goy elite for one.

>>515097829
Not just that. Don't look too closely into the Cuban Question.
While taking in refugees, Castro was planting sleepers. Indoctrinated children who are the loudest voices of anti-communism (because they were trained to do this) in order that they could lead the Cubans who were forced out of Cuba.
The world is a huge schizo mess of nigger factions that don't belong in the US. The right policy is and always has been isolationism and segregation to avoid conflicts of interest and subversion from within.

>>515097941
>genuinely one of the most retarded open-air "i'm not touching youuu" proxy wars we've probably see historically
Excellent description of it.

>>515094905
Yeah! Russia is right next to Ukraine but the US is on the other side of the world from Iraq, its not a fair comparison

>>515097951
what did we "win" in 91, again?
we went there on who's word, again?
was or was not saddam hussein still in charge of iraq afterwards?
remind me of how that one went, you niggerfaggot
I'll wait

>>515084178 (OP)
The main weakness is no unity, not a singular culture or people it's a league of nations, a conglomerate of many races forced onto the original American's. This is the weakness as they don't fight for a common goal only the right to other peoples taxes. It cannot possibly hold together, the exodus of Jews from Russia to america before the soviet Union collapsed sealed their fate.

Now socially you see all the same abuses of power and psychological torture being deployed against the American citizen that was used against the Russian citizen. Such as defending criminals for the purpose of terror.
That is why America ultimately failed

>>515084178 (OP)
>how could a foreign power defeat the US army?
so basically no aeronautical or maritime capabilities?
very easily
army's the weakest link, and the modern incarnation has been struggling to recruit more than any other branch, so it's now full of gutless moronic browns who are just looking for a paycheck and gibs
with armored vehicles obsolete, they would get absolutely slaughtered by a peer force

>>515084178 (OP)
>Realistically, how could a foreign power defeat the US army?
well a key prerequisite is not to be a nation that hasn't seen a major military conflict in almost five decades
in other words don't be china

>>515084178 (OP)
>No psychological or cultural warfare, but on the battlefield.
>No not the right answer, I want a different one
Psychological/cultural is the answer. America is behind two huge oceans, we have one very friendly neighbor and one unfriendly but completely ineffective neighbor. And we have nukes, so even if you somehow manage it we're just going to blow up the world. America can't be defeated on the field. We can be forced out of our adventure wars, but we can't be fully defeated.

UNLESS you're willing to poison the culture with infighting, sabotage and pressure on colonies that costs too much blood and treasure to keep.

>>515084178 (OP)
>Realistically, how could a foreign power defeat the US army?

You can outlast us in a guerilla campaign the way the Vietnamese and Afghans did.

In a straight up conflict between standing armies against the US Army you either lose or the nukes fly. Even without nukes in the equation neither the United States or China is realistically capable of conquering the other in a conventional war.

>>515084178 (OP)
Just throw burgers and goyslop shit at them.

>>515084178 (OP)
Chang, you cannot defeat the Department of WAR

It has already been defeated without a fight by Kosher Nostra. Xi just has to ask Bibi what he wants for US/EU and he can have it. Unfortunately what Zionists want most from Xi is unlimited immigration from Africa to China. It will take time to find the right Chinese leader willing to "progress" China into hell.

>>515098136
>what did we "win" in 91, again?
Kuwait being "liberated" and Iraq not controlling a large portion of worlds oil supply at the time
>we went there on who's word, again?
We went there because Iraq invaded a country that was "friendly" to the US and because we didn't have Iraq to control a large portion of the worlds oil, Also the Saudis wanted us there [which lead to why Osama hated the US]

Before the invasion of Kuwait, Iraq contacted an American that they thought was connected to the president and they asked if the US would retaliate against Iraq for invading Kuwait, The individual said that the US wouldn't care if Iraq invaded.
>was or was not saddam hussein still in charge of iraq afterwards?
His removal from power wasn't the goal.
>remind me of how that one went, you niggerfaggot
His [Saddam] army was destroyed very quickly, and the war caused the Russian and Chinks to realized how far behind they were in weapons technology, So far so that even in the opening of the 2022 invasion of Ukraine, Russia couldn't do any of the shit that the US could in the early 90s.
>I'll wait
There ya go chink.

>>515099182
The first Gulf War started when Kuwait was drilling horizontally into Iraqi oil fields.

Saddam protested so many times but everybody ignored him as they knew he would retaliate. After he was pushed out of Iraq by a coalition of forces.

The USA continually bombed Iraqi airfields and depots for years afterwards, destroying any Iraqi air defence.

The came the 'Weapons of Mass Destruction'??
The USA (along with a coalition of other countries) pretty much just walked into Iraq, as any opposition was pretty much destroyed beforehand.

This whole operation was pre planned before Kuwait, as a step to destabilise the Middle East for the Israeli masters.

>>515084178 (OP)
Poor leadership, everything else is actually pretty well done, and somehow service members manage to keep thing going, but most of them hate their leadership.

>>515099182
lol I was gonna reply to your eglin nigger cope but memeflag already got the job done lmao
seethe about it, faggot

>>515084178 (OP)
Having no God on your side. That's the main weakness. Military power is worthless compare to the power of GOD.

>>515084178 (OP)
The main weakness is that americans have 0 stomach for war.

>>515085200
Also the US did not invade alone

>>515084178 (OP)
if china and the us went to war everyone would get nuked to smithereens desu

>>515084178 (OP)
>Realistically, how could a foreign power defeat the US army?
By by at least as rich as America and spending more than 4% of their GDP on it. Even when adjusting for purchasing parity, China is nowhere close to matching the budget which is even more reason to suspect 90% of their hardwear is going to be fucking Roflcopter tier in a real war.

>>515100930
Genghis Khan conquered the world with a pony + rock glitch, and that guy declared himself I AM THE PUNISHMENT OF GOD. There is no excuse.

>>515100655
neither did russia. they have tens of thousands of north korean troops and foreign mercenaries as well.

>>515085200
Nah, both Ukraine and Iraq were on the same level of mil tech at the start of both wars. Same could be said about Russia and US atleast at the start on paper.

>>515097471
Not talking about specificaly the us. Any power with military tech higher than yours will use it well if they think the outcome is preferable than loosing. If the us thought thailand was a threat to israel and the only solution was your total destruction, they will happily and easily do it.

>>515084178 (OP)
Holy shit the people who spend all day in marching practice are so scary. By that logic your average high school marching band is the most powerful military on the world

>>515084298
Unfortunately, this

I genuinely want to see China in a proper conflict, doesn't even have to be the US
It would be interesting and I think a lot of authoritarian nations are well overdue for a military stress test

>>515084178 (OP)
The US army is a joke, the US air force is lethal but also political and actively anti-war. The US Navy could fuck shit up but it's out of shape.

>>515095608
Kind of like how Ukraine is getting all those western weapons.

if you want to know how the US military would perform today you need only look at the crimea counter attack that NATO spent six months planning in advance. it was such a disaster that after just 2 days the ukrainians told NATO to fuck off with their outdated "shock and awe" bullshit and they went back to localized attacks with small groups of infantry and drones. the losses in those first two days were tremendous. entire columns of vehicles got utterly annihilated. it was a turkey shoot. if you've ever seen those webms of bradleys and leopard tanks piled up and burning, those are all from those first two days. NATO commanders have no idea what the fuck they are doing, they are not capable of fighting a modern war.

>>515084178 (OP)
just do what vietnamese or taliban did, usa couldnt win against those.

>>515084298
fpbp
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>>515084178 (OP)
The best part of the USA parade was the "Sponsored by Palantir/Coinbase", nigger is the fucking militar parade of your country you aren't supposed to be sponsored by none.
But of course that's the difference between the Financial powers controlling the political one and the Political one dictating the economy.

>>515084178 (OP)
Impossible. At the moment. The US army is an army of average soldiers led by average leaders but equipped with weapons designed by geniuses, supplied by a logistical system maintained by geniuses, fed with military intelligence supplied by geniuses, and supported by an economic and political system which is nowhere as near corrupt and inefficient as its opponents.
On the battlefield the US army would wipe any opponent, other than in small unit operations against peers from some other western nations ( who are often US equipped ). In large scale operations it has no peers. In force projection it has no peers.
>Mah Vietnam, mah Afghanistan
Those were not battlefield defeats. They were geopolitical defeats. Big difference and I cba atrying to explain the difference to smooth-brains who would never get it anyway.
There is no way to defeat the US army on the battlefield at the moment. Unless you want to talk about zerg rushing an unsupplied lone US division without air support with an enemy 1000x its strength. Which I am sure is not what you are asking.
The only way to defeat them is to wait. To wait until the USA degrades down to Mexcico 2.0. Which will happen by the end of this century.
Ask yourself this. What sort of military capacity does Mexico have? Would it make much difference if Mexico was four times bigger? There is your USA in the year 2100 AD

>>515084298
>>515085200
No, the reason the comparison isn't apt is that a) they were fighting useless towelheads, whereas the Russians are fighting Slavs, and b) Ukraine is armed with Western weapons and equipped with the most cutting edge Western intelligence. Everyone on both sides has admitted that Starlink has been invaluable for the Ukrainians, for instance, and massive numbers of Russian armoured vehicles were destroyed in the early phases of the war thanks to NLAWs and other similar weapons.

>>515093224
Lmao. You have no other option but to think that way considering just one of the new Chinese destroyers can take out your entire navy.

The real question is why would the Americans even bother to help you?

>>515085611
I always come back to this video. Americans shitting a pissing themselves while an afghani doesn't give a fuck at all. Listen to the burgers shouting murica as if they did anything
https://youtu.be/yfx74JBz2EI?si=tK4kW2tmnrk8oQma

>>515100655
Sure would be nice if Russia had a couple dozen eager vassals to throw at their problems. Maybe they should stop sucking at being an overlord and making all their old minions hate their guts.

>>515097292
I thought you already tried to bomb India during the 1971 war but you ended up running away and then they went on to liberate east Pakistan into a new country called Bangladesh.

I would send my Jewish friends and put them in the American government and businesses to promote Israels interests. And Mexicans and Indians to keep the wages low and the Americans poor.

Real war is a numbers game and we don't have the necessary arms production capacity. So instead we bomb goat herders. China + Russia win a massive conventional war on production alone. In that event, we go to nukes quickly and no one wins

>>515104569
vietcong here, we did nothing.. american got bored because they couldn't find anyone to fight so they just left on their own

>>515103731
people talk a lot of shit about north korea, but it was a very smart move for them so send guys over to help with the russia/ ukraine situation
they get to see what modern warfare looks like and develop tactics for it
iirc the russians who worked with them said they operated was completely alien to them, which makes sense considering how long it's been since the last conflict they were in and how much has changed since then

>>515084178 (OP)
Two decades of guerilla insurgency while sustainably sacrificing millions of your soldiers and civilians.