Thread 515089344

>>515089344 (OP)
b... batteries? holy fuck anon, you're a genius!

>>515089344 (OP)
It was made illegal to pay workers competitive wages in 1919.
>Dodge v. Ford Motor Co., 204 Mich 459; 170 NW 668 (1919),[1] is a case in which the Michigan Supreme Court held that Henry Ford had to operate the Ford Motor Company in the interests of its shareholders, rather than in a manner for the benefit of his employees or customers.

Thats right, wallstreet are such short sighted glue huffing "capitalists" they made good honest prudence in big business illegal back in 1919. In any other nation we would call it backwards socialism.

This single ruling makes American companies globally uncompetitive because it is illegal for them to hire talent or make a good product. They are instead chained to the meta of avoiding any investment that doesn't directly aid shareholders. (its illegal to invest in anything other than news cycle memes)

Furthermore, is is also illegal to give the customer a good product unless the product is consumed at a frequency greater than once a fiscal quarter.

This SINGLE precedent, has done more to destroy the American brand than any other institution, failing, or disorder. People complain about unions about "the lowest common denominator" and "globalization" but the USA hamstrung themselves more than a century ago. No tariffs or labor market, or financial stimulus will fix this. The system is fundamentally opposed to creating value.

>>515089344 (OP)

>falling for the green energy scam
That was a test to see if you would survive to pass your genes onto the next generation.
>you failed.

Next.

>>515089344 (OP)
Did you use solar and wind power to build the batteries? How cheap are the batteries to produce? Do the batteries require the use of nonrenewable rare earth elements?

>Use % of daytime renewable energy to raise heavy object
>At night time, let heavy object fall while spinning DC generator
it's not that hard to do

>>515089344 (OP)
America knows batteries
America does not know magnets

>>515089344 (OP)
What the fuck are batteries you street shitting faggot?

>>515091388
instead of a block for the weight, you could have a skyscraper that pops in and out of the ground. half the year it is slowly rising and half the year slowly declinging. the rich people will live on the top floors and rarely go underground.

Don't ask me. I'm a nuclear chad

>>515089344 (OP)
Batteries suck. We like transmission lines. It works very well. Batteries are Edison tier stuff. We like AC here.

>>515091388
or just pump water uphill

>>515089344 (OP)
>post nigger brain thread
>doesn't realize how stupid they look
Genius, batteries completely destroy any small, niche case advantage wind and solar have. Even in Florida batteries take home solar from being roughly ~15% cheaper than grid reliant sytems, to being ~50% more expensive. Or nearly twice as expensive in many cases. The batteries are expensive, unreliable, and degrade quickly.

>>515089596
Difference is easy to spot. Dodge was owned by Jews and so were the courts. Ford was not. Ford cared about his men. Ford knew about the Jew. Ford was very wise indeed and a very good American.

>>515089582
We just can't comprehend indan genius

Macho men think electricity is gay even though the most powerful factories and mining machinery run on electrons and not some combustion engine.

>>515089344 (OP)
>Why doesn't India know about toilets

>>515089344 (OP)
@grok is this true?

>>515091388

who would have thought that you can just store energy

>>515089596
Reminder that Ford was an antisemite who hated his financiers. Hitler read about Ford and started the company Volkswagen (German for "the people"'s car") when he came to power. Hitler then built the autobahns and fulfilled Ford's goal of making cars affordable to everyone. The German economy grew at double digit rates while the rest of the West was still stuck in the Great Depression. Hitler was subsequently called "right wing" and accused of mass murder, primarily by Jews.

>>515091388
hey did you watch those vids on gear transmission where they pull a ten ton truck with a 12V DC motor and a crazy gearbox that has like 1:1000000 ? you could use these and power your gravity well with some small, tiny even, solar panels and secretly lift the weight at night to the top
use another clutched gearbox to siphon the rotational energy from the driveshafts of the load pulleys in order to power a 2kWh generators rotor right ? once you overcome friction and sticktion. sounds eas'y /pol/, let's build ! ( you know you can just build things right !? )

>>515092389
Indians eat cow poop and drink cow urine and defecate outdoors.

>>515091668
a battery is commonly referred to as an array of accumulators, accumulators are electrochemical storages that use reversible electrochemical processes in order to change the charge difference of the used substances in order to create a electronic potential between the units two poles which favorably influences conductive materials and is hence able to induce a direct current into circuits where it can be further exploited by chaining several physical core principles.

>>515089344 (OP)
this is one of my favorite MAGA trash leopards-ate-my-face topics.

no refunds, MAGA trash

>>515089344 (OP)
Excuse me? What is this that you speak of? Some kind of food?

>>515089344 (OP)
memeflag now pajeet

>>515089596
This is only kinda true in the instance of a company being a public company.
A private company can do whatever the fuck, and they're going to do what the members want, of course.

>>515093795
And all those union faggots losing their jobs when Biden cancelled the Keystone pipeline. I laughed my ass off myself back then at all the stupid Marxists counting on those jobs. Funny how that works.

>>515093795
there is no such thing as "clean" energy
if you work in the energy sector no matter if "clean" or "dirty" ( thats what newfaggots strive to wedge in as the means of division of the people. see; 'divide et impera' ) you cn also work in any of the other 'branches' of the "energy industry".
>>515092139
nice

>>515092295
>post nigger brain thread
excuse me saaar this is a "N"-Gineer thread, please do the needful and redeem your (You)

>>515091937
>yeah, it'll be about three years before we finish construction of your mom's auto-dildo
>we're breaking ground in march

>>515089344 (OP)
the batteries are not big enough i guess and they are also made from toxic rare earth minerals that are expensive to get.
they need to store renewable energy by pumping water back up into dams or flywheels or something

>>515094411
>Union jobs get cut because the union took a contract from the government
Eh. Shit happens. The union still exists, and they're supposed to figure this shit out.

elon muskerino is building a heckin' AI datacenter that consumes the same power as a small country. good luck powering 1 million reticle limit sized GPU's with renewables lmao. micropajeet literally just bought an old nuclear power plant and is building their own data center next to it.

>>515089344 (OP)
Behold/pol/: thr typical jeet
He thinks he's hyper intelligent but has 71 average IQ
In this example he thinks you can just hook massive batteries up to the power grid
He demonstrates he's complete lack understanding of both how the power grid works and the capacity and costs of batteries
Be warned /pol/ for whenever you hear a jeet say anything it will always carry this same retard energy

>>515089344 (OP)
I thought your internet cable got cut today.

>>515095291
Bandwidth limitations are not cessation of service.
MORE CUTS.

>>515091388
Calculate losses with heat and friction, include daily load requirements and you'll understand why this doesn't work.

>>515095795
>not making fun of the DC motor
The grid runs on AC.
It's just mechanical pumped storage hydropower, but more complex for reasons.

>>515089344 (OP)
Been trying to figure out how to build an OG Edison Cell (I know the energy density's not as good as a Lithium Ion, but they were sturdy and had an amazing lifespan. Also the electrolyte's a lot safer than sulfuric acid, and the batteries were designed to have replaceable components), but I haven't figured out the anode and cathode materials and how they're situated (Nickel II hydroxide for the cathode, and Iron for the anode). I've seen suggestions for doping the anode and cathode elements, but there's also suggestions that you should layer them in their respective elements (but not tamping and packing the material).
>>515091388
Gravity batteries ftw.

>>515096141
Nickel III oxide-hydroxide?

>>515096344
That's probably It. I got mixed up.
Thanks man.

>>515089344 (OP)
I'm not being a slave to the weather you retarded curry nig. Battery tech isn't there either. God forbid we build proven shit that already works, NUCLEAR. Solar is okay for building roofs or car parks, but if you're building fields of them you're retarded and wasting land.

>>515096539
Yeah we wasted acres of deserts that could have been used to... uh...

>>515089344 (OP)
Because big oil pretends the Industrial Revolution was peak America, and we should never progress futher.

>>515098098
Anyone who lives in a sandy region can tell you just how much bullshit that is.

>>515089344 (OP)
We use the word battalion now.

>>515096539
>nuclear
>during the browning of the world
Yeah that's gonna work out well. Oh and there goes every last source of fresh water in the world because nuclear needs all of it.

>>515089344 (OP)
Because our wonderful leaders outsourced our production to slave countries like yours through the means of the failed TPP
>Trans Pacific Parternership
And other such bills. Selling out OUR youth and citizens in general for cheap slave labor
>You
>China
Who are juuuuuusssstttt smart enough to do what you're told, but too fucking stupid to ever really innovate anything yourselves

The Houthis should've killed your internet for good.

>>515089344 (OP)
Transforming DC is pretty shit

>>515091055
>what is a flow battery
>>515092139
based

>>515092384
Every coal miner will soon switch over to using fully electric vehicles and mobile plant on site - or the ones that don't will quickly go under. Diesel is one of our biggest expenditures at site, next to human capital. The less useless mouths we have to feed, and the less fuel we have to buy, the more money we save. We dig up the stuff, may as well use some of it to power the machinery.

>>515093297
Battery is what's gunna happen if you interfere with my profit margins. (This is a threat, be scared)

>>515098535
>hey, these engineers created a wa-
>GUYS I LIVE IN A DESERT
There is a reason they love the low-educated.
Anyway, more solutions...
https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/long-duration-energy-storage/form-energy-set-to-build-worlds-biggest-battery-in-maine

>>515095795
>why this doesn't work
imagine thinking i just made this up and they're not already in production. lmao retarded nigger

>In December 2020 single blocks were raised and lowered 42 m over about 1 minute at 0.7 m/s and the energy drawn from and returned to the national grid recorded. 4.124 kWh electricity was needed to achieve the maximum theoretical potential energy of 3.906 kWh at this height, giving ~95% efficiency for this. On lowering a production of 3.106 kWh was recorded, giving a mean production power of ~186 kW and an efficiency of ~79.5% for this, giving a total round-trip efficiency of ~75%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Vault

>>515089344 (OP)
>muh batteries for wind and solar
you don't even need that many
mostly intra-day to cover for the evening peak demand

no wind and no sun is exceptionally rare
what you actually need are UHV DC power lines to connect different parts of your country
for Europe that'd mean big power lines from Spain to the Baltics and from Denmark to Greece / Italy
you can backtest wind at the coasts and pretty precisely plan how much wind power you need

China is the only country who's currently building UHV power lines en masse
for the exact reason

>>515089344 (OP)
They're called accumulators, moron, and you may as well just use nuclear power.

>>515089344 (OP)
because they sold the battery tech to china

anti solar retards are completely delusional

my house runs on 30kWp Solar with now ~15kWh storage and a heat pump
>~95% energy autarky
in southern Germany I still get ~700kWh in Jan / Feb

the whole thing was like ~20k€ (installed it myself)
all the components will run for 25y+
and I even get a bit for selling electricity

but sure, cuck yourself to your (((utility))) company for electricity and gas

>>515101980
That's not something that's in production. It's a venture capital money sink. They spent 100 million dollars to store 8 cents worth of electricity.

I predicted CCJ would be a good stock to hold because of the future of uranium. If you strip away the politics as of right now nuclear energy is the only way forward.
Even trying to get fusion to work is nice an all but we dont have the materials to sustain practically long fusion reactions due to things like neutron bombardment. They have to be fixed with robots because even when off they're just too radioactive to enter with any wearable PPE.
Not only can we use nuclear energy we can use the waste and keep reusing it to generate energy.

>>515093795
30% of 0.04% of the atmosphere has nothing to do with global temperatures, only the truly retarded would think so. 'Clean energy' is jewish corruption and planned austerity via systematic de-industrialization. That's why for some reason the co2 emitted in China doesn't count to the people behind the Paris accords.

>>515089344 (OP)
current batteries don't have that much storwge capacity
(though I've heard thermal, compressed air and molten salt batteries are promising)

>>515091055
Lithium ion batteries don't have rare earths.

>>515092668
Where is Saddam Hussein hiding?

>>515089344 (OP)
he obviously knows about germany

>>515089344 (OP)
Battery is exclusive to nigger culture in the US.

>>515091388
With a battery energy storage system, friction losses due to motors and gears are encountered only once, at the hub of the windmill or the dynamo of a hydrogenerator. With a gravity based energy storage system, not only do you lose additional energy to friction at the winch while raising, you again waste some energy while lowering.