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Anonymous (ID: TGAhf2nH) United States No.515089966 >>515090094 >>515090113 >>515090143 >>515090215 >>515090287 >>515090396 >>515090462 >>515090546 >>515090587 >>515090630 >>515090986 >>515091182 >>515091227 >>515091541 >>515091881 >>515091929 >>515092054 >>515092216 >>515092626 >>515092633 >>515092967 >>515093269 >>515093270 >>515093650 >>515094419 >>515094508
Trump is killing millions of children
Trump has gutted foreign aid. This decision is likely to kill millions of people, many of them children.

At the start of his administration, Trump signed an executive order shutting off nearly all foreign aid. https://benthams.substack.com/p/debating-richard-hanania-about-trump Then, Elon Musk and DOGE spent the next several months feeding USAID into the woodchipper https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886307316804263979?lang=en (embed) dismantling most of it. As a result, the Trump administration has blocked billions of dollars of funding for foreign aid, https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/08/13/nx-s1-5501666/trump-administration-foreign-aid including for efforts to combat malaria, https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/fact-sheet/the-trump-administrations-foreign-aid-review-status-of-the-presidents-malaria-initiative-pmi/ tuberculosis, https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/fact-sheet/the-trump-administrations-foreign-aid-review-status-of-u-s-global-tuberculosis-efforts/ and HIV. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President%27s_Emergency_Plan_for_AIDS_Relief?#PEPFAR_under_second_Trump_presidency

This included cuts for PEPFAR which is arguably the most effective government program in recent history. It annually costs about 14 dollars per American, https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/fact-sheet/the-trump-administrations-foreign-aid-review-status-of-pepfar/ and saved somewhere around 19 million lives https://pepfarreport.org/ since its implementation under George W. Bush. The Trump administration has seriously undermined it in several ways.
Anonymous (ID: kFtbmP/R) United States No.515090094 >>515090155 >>515090215 >>515090986
>>515089966 (OP)
1. The initial 90-day shutdown of foreign aid shut PEPFAR down. This was reversed by a waiver signed by Rubio, but despite the waiver, functionality was still decreased. https://www.them.us/story/aids-relief-pepfar-activists? Many funds were not properly disbursed.

2. Around 60% of PEPFAR funding and deployment was through USAID. When USAID shut down, most of PEPFAR disappeared with it.

3. The federal government has dramatically decreased grants for PEPFAR. https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/fact-sheet/the-trump-administrations-foreign-aid-review-status-of-pepfar/

4. The state department has a plan to reorganize PEPFAR to limit its effectiveness (making it about stopping threats to U.S. markets rather than saving lives). https://healthpolicy-watch.news/us-officials-draft-plan-replaces-pepfar-with-bilateral-relationships/

The PEPFAR cuts alone could very well cost millions of lives. It’s already conservatively cost around 100,000 lives, https://pepfar.impactcounter.com/ and numbers of deaths are only increasing. And while it’s hard to figure out exactly how many lives PEPFAR saved, it’s easy to see it saved many—just look at this chart of HIV deaths before and after PEPFAR: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Deaths-from-hiv-by-age.png

You have to screw up pretty badly to eviscerate the best government program in the last 30 years. And this is just one of the many programs Trump has undermined. Foreign aid—despite taking up less than 1% of the budget—has been significantly wrecked.
Anonymous (ID: C4oQLwfN) No.515090113 >>515090166 >>515090519
>>515089966 (OP)
Trump isn't a babysitter
Anonymous (ID: cRwvN5yW) No.515090143
>>515089966 (OP)
>trump cuts foreign aid
Based
>diverts it all to a foreign country
Why is he like this?
Anonymous (ID: kFtbmP/R) United States No.515090155 >>515090215 >>515090221 >>515091453
>>515090094
This will likely cause millions of deaths, according to the studies that have been done on the topic. One report claimed USAID (eliminated by Trump) saved 92 million lives https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(25)01186-9/fulltext in the last two decades. Another study estimated that 7.9 million extra children https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5199076&fbclid=IwY2xjawK33KhleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETE4TExZd3ZHNFpSUXRsbXkwAR76ORhFayZzhN0m_kImLiBmaZ1BDAmshvRZvOqCucONgp5jVE5MRtFR9ZMM8A_aem_Zec5BpVMaTbVz-fsnnahgA would die in the next 15 years, and a lower end estimate guessed foreign aid saves about 3 million lives a year. https://www.cgdev.org/blog/how-many-lives-does-us-foreign-aid-save If we assume Trump will halve the lives saved by foreign aid and go by the low-end estimate, this means his cuts would cause over 22 million deaths in the next 15 years—consistent with another study estimating 25 million excess deaths https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01191-z from foreign aid cuts.

So, on its face, it looks like Trump’s foreign aid cuts will bring about over ten million extra deaths if not reversed. However, there are various defenses that people give of the foreign aid cuts. Let me address them in turn.

A first defense: why should we spend so much on foreign aid? Why can’t the rest of the world pay for stuff, when we disproportionately foot the bill? In reality, we spend less per capita https://fpa.org/u-s-foreign-aid-spending-too-much-or-not-enough/ on foreign aid than other industrialized nations. America isn’t getting taken advantage of and giving too much—we give far too little. Also, even if other countries were slacking, it would still be good to prevent millions of deaths.
Anonymous (ID: dwvEyWtE) United States No.515090166 >>515090215 >>515090221
>>515090113
He’s a murderer.
Anonymous (ID: ju0SRxMq) United States No.515090215
>>515089966 (OP)
>>515090094
>>515090155
>>515090166
Are these White people that are dying?
Anonymous (ID: kFtbmP/R) United States No.515090221 >>515090289 >>515091976
>>515090155
A second defense: the millions of deaths numbers are inflated because other countries will fill in. If the U.S. stops funding these programs, it is argued, other countries will take them up. In reality, however, other countries have tended to cut aid https://www.chathamhouse.org/2025/03/first-usaid-closes-then-uk-cuts-aid-what-western-retreat-foreign-aid-could-mean in response to the U.S. cuts. While some countries have spent more, others https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/countries-still-want-save-world-110000873.html have cut their aid budgets after we cut ours. 2025 is the first time in nearly 30 years that France, Germany, the U.S., and the UK have all cut foreign aid budgets.

So this defense backfires. If anything, it makes foreign aid cuts even worse!

A third defense: why can’t other countries pay for these programs? If African countries love AIDS medicine so much, can’t they fund it? This isn’t a defense so much as a question. And it ignores that:

1 These countries are often very poor, so it’s hard to fund medical projects. PEPFAR has a budget of around 6 billion. U.S. GDP is about 30 trillion. Malawi, one of the recipient countries, has a GDP of about 11 billion dollars. For us, PEPFAR is a tiny investment—for them, it’s a lot of their GDP.

2 Even aside from funding, these countries don’t have the doctors and medical infrastructure needed for these programs.

3 Even if the reason why PEPFAR and other foreign aid programs weren’t funded was because other countries sucked, it would still be good to fund PEPFAR and save millions of lives. PEPFAR wasn’t funded before the U.S. came in and hasn’t been funded in other similar places.

A fourth defense: the PEPFAR recipients are homosexual. Why should we fund them? This response has been popular on the right. https://benthams.substack.com/p/matt-walshs-noxious-mix-of-malevolence However:
>>515090166
this.
poison them and then deprive them of the cure AIDS was man-made by Americans
Anonymous (ID: yH3SZJDs) United States No.515090287 >>515090519
>>515089966 (OP)
The USA doesn't owe anyone foreign aid. Go fuck yourself, your argument is shit.
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515090289 >>515090332 >>515090986
>>515090221
1 Most PEPFAR recipients are women and children. https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/issue-brief/who-are-pepfars-beneficiaries-analysis-of-populations-served-in-2022/ While HIV in the west disproportionately affected gay men, not so in other places.

2 Even if it was mostly gay men, it’s bad for gay people to die!

3 This obviously doesn’t apply to the rest of foreign aid.

A fifth defense: foreign aid doesn’t work that well. Various people have claimed that foreign aid isn’t particularly effective and often backfires, making countries dependent on us. Now, overall I don’t think that’s super plausible. My read of the literature is that development aid tends to be positive. https://www.wider.unu.edu/publication/meta-analysis-literature-aid-and-growth

But more importantly, the kind of foreign aid that’s controversial is economic development aid that comes with strings attached. There’s basically no serious dispute about the efficacy of PEPFAR or anti-malaria programs. https://blog.givewell.org/2015/11/06/the-lack-of-controversy-over-well-targeted-aid/ The most famous critics of aid like William Easterly https://web.archive.org/web/20250306022939/https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-financial-page/elon-musk-and-donald-trump-are-not-fixing-us-foreign-aid-but-destroying-it support these programs. https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2007/08/16/how-and-how-not-to-stop-aids-in-africa/

A final defense: why spend money helping out people in other countries? A nation’s obligation is to its own! The people saved by foreign aid aren’t Americans, so why should we bother to help them? In response:
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515090332 >>515090394 >>515090584
>>515090289

1 I think this is quite ethically objectionable. Imagine we could spend .5% of the budget annually to stop the Nazi holocaust every decade or so. It seems obvious that we should do that. Thus, it seems we have at least some obligations to foreigners! And this looks similar to the number of lives saved by foreign aid. Similarly, it’s widely regarded as a great failure that we didn’t act to stop the slaughter in Rwanda, even though the number of lives we would have saved would have been far less great than the number PEPFAR has saved. Maybe we have stronger obligations to Americans than to people in other countries, but the idea that we shouldn’t care at all about foreigners dying by the millions is deeply wicked, and one who seriously adopts it has lost part of their soul.

2 Even if our only concern was for America, there’s still a strong case for foreign aid. Disease does not respect borders—epidemics have a way of making it to the U.S. We also trade with other countries. If entire countries are devastated by disease, they won’t be trading with us, and this will be bad for the economy. Foreign aid is also a tool of soft power that helps shore up our influence with other countries and makes it easier to achieve foreign policy objectives.

3 People who make this argument tend not to be consistent. When complaining about foreign wars, they’ll often note that wars kill large numbers of foreigners, and treat this as a relevant consideration. They’ll talk at length about the scourge of Muslim grooming gangs in Britain, https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/everyones-a-based-post-christian?utm_source=publication-search and seem to think it would be worth doing something about that at low cost. But the victims of such gangs are, of course, foreigners. It can’t be that people in other countries only matter when they’re the victims of policies you don’t like.
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515090394 >>515090986
>>515090332
Thus, the facts are clear: Trump’s foreign aid cuts will cause large numbers of people to die. Depending on exactly when they’re reversed, they are likely to kill millions of people, potentially tens of millions

https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-anti-foreign-aid-right-is-low?utm_source=publication-search

https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-comprehensive-case-against-trump?utm_source=publication-search

https://benthams.substack.com/p/shoeonheads-insane-falsehoods-about?utm_source=publication-search

https://benthams.substack.com/p/shoeonhead-doubles-down-after-lying?utm_source=publication-search
Anonymous (ID: QB7VCFQy) United States No.515090396
>>515089966 (OP)
I voted for this, specifically.
Anonymous (ID: emthukxR) United States No.515090454 >>515090519
>female morality thread
If they can't feed themselves, why are they alive?
"Aid" is to assist in return to function.
Anonymous (ID: M6k7wb05) United States No.515090462 >>515090519
>>515089966 (OP)
>It annually costs about 14 dollars per American
Why the fuck am I being forced to pay for foreigners? Subsidizing their population growth only means that white countries will have to absorb their population when they can't take care of themselves. Cut all of this aid immediately.
Anonymous (ID: reelasqn) United States No.515090475
niggers and/or shitskins are not and never will be considered "children". the word "children" implies that they are human youth, which is clearly not the case here.
Anonymous (ID: G4AskbvO) United States No.515090515
B B B BAAAASED
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515090519 >>515090658 >>515090662 >>515090790 >>515091327 >>515094612
>>515090462
>>515090454
>>515090287
>>515090113
And no, the excuse that failing to save is different from killing doesn’t hold any sway here. If you stop providing aid to someone who needs it when they have no ability to provide it themselves—abruptly, without giving them any time to find another source—you have killed them. If an aid facility is feeding infants, and you cut off all funding to it so that the infants starve to death, what you have done is far more akin to homicide than failing to save. And even if it were only failing to save, it is deeply evil to refuse to spend a few bucks per American to avert a death toll greater than that of the Nazi holocaust.
Anonymous (ID: Zx9Q9CYZ) United States No.515090546 >>515090801
>>515089966 (OP)
If our economy collapses, that foreign aid goes from 0 now to 0 permanently.
Also, charities are infamously inflated and exploited in the West by Western "managers".
I simply don't see how indefinitely sending people money in a way that hasn't actually improved the status quo in their country benefits anyone but the middleman.
Anonymous (ID: M6k7wb05) United States No.515090584 >>515090930
>>515090332
>1 I think this is quite ethically objectionable.
Then YOU fucking pay for it, and leave me out of it. I think it is ethically and ethnically objectionable to force white saviors to subsidize the world, when we can't take care of our own country. Not ONE US tax dollar should be used for things like this.
>2 Even if our only concern was for America, there’s still a strong case for foreign aid.
Wrong faggot.
Anonymous (ID: yRqlvluz) United States No.515090587
>>515089966 (OP)
I literally don't care about foreign children. I barely care about American children, other than my own. In America, we believe in self-sufficiency and pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. Foreign children can die for all I care (which I don't). The world is grossly overpopulated with foreign people. We could easily drop down to 4 billion, and our standard of living would increase in the Western world. Investment in foreign children is stealing from my children. Simple as. Let them die, and please make it happen faster so we can build more hotels, resorts, and golf courses. I'm happy that we don't even have to use the napalm this time.
Anonymous (ID: H50POyWw) United States No.515090630
>>515089966 (OP)
>This included cuts for PEPFAR which is arguably the most effective government program in recent history.
effective at what?
saved lives from what?
Anonymous (ID: M6k7wb05) United States No.515090658
>>515090519
>And no, the excuse that failing to save is different from killing doesn’t hold any sway here.
Luckily no one asked for your approval. If you feel so strongly about it, spend your own fucking money on it, and leave me out of it.
>a death toll greater than that of the Nazi holocaust
So...greater than zero?
Anonymous (ID: emthukxR) United States No.515090662 >>515090930
>>515090519
>I am literally a bot
Female. Morality.
Mollycoddled.
Spoiled.
Helicopter parenting.
This is why single mothers produce damaged male offspring.
Anonymous (ID: ju0SRxMq) United States No.515090790
>>515090519
Are these White people that are dying?
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515090801 >>515090958 >>515090986 >>515091416 >>515091910
>>515090546
Foreign aid has been helping. Child mortality per capita is much lower now then it was a couple decades ago.
I agree that spending needs to be cut and taxes need to be raised but foreign aid cuts isn't the way to go (except Israel and it's neighbors).
Anonymous (ID: HWN09314) United States No.515090909
Still can't believe the shills will sit down and write out pages of text outlining why i should send money to save lives in Africa. Why? I don't give a shit. And I'm not even close to as racist as most here.

Don't you get it? That's exactly what i voted for. Cut them off and let them die, if they want HIV drugs maybe they should create some.
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515090930 >>515091005 >>515091100 >>515091112
>>515090584
I'm not the original author but I've donated thousands of dollars to effective altruist charities this year
>>515090662
I copy pasted it but I'm not a bot
Anonymous (ID: CHQg9Yer) United States No.515090935
Those are niggers retard
Anonymous (ID: MoYtS95k) United States No.515090958
>>515090801
I want the money to be actively killing these kids. Like spend money of posion baby food and stuff.
Anonymous (ID: JbzWZQX/) United States No.515090986
>>515089966 (OP)
>>515090094
>>515090289
>>515090394
>>515090801
we should be actively taking all that wasted funding back with interest
Anonymous (ID: MoYtS95k) United States No.515091005 >>515091046
>>515090930
I hope a nigger kill you and your families.
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515091046 >>515091073
>>515091005
I doubt that's how I'll die
Anonymous (ID: MoYtS95k) United States No.515091073
>>515091046
Dox yourself then
Anonymous (ID: emthukxR) United States No.515091100
>>515090930
>effective altruist charities
Ah, shit, she fell for the money laundering bait.
If you aren't keeping your charity local, you're a fucking retard. There's a reason churches used to be what they were. Naturally, someone killed that.
And no, don't fucking feed tweakers. Help those that help themselves. Fucking female morality.
Anonymous (ID: M6k7wb05) United States No.515091112 >>515091208 >>515091244 >>515091277
>>515090930
Don't you think it more cruel to subsidize the over population of Africa instead of letting nature take its course? They can't take care of themselves and never will be able to on an industrial scale, meaning you are just creating problems for everyone else in the world.
Anonymous (ID: lu9ZUbDa) United States No.515091182 >>515091347
>>515089966 (OP)
Aren’t we $30 trillion in debt? The net worth of the United States is in the negative and you’re bitching about not spending money on FOREIGNERS?
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515091208 >>515091277 >>515092662
>>515091112
Another concern: perhaps donating to effective charities that save lives will produce overpopulation. This will hold the nations they affect back economically and socially. Now, it is true that donating to life-saving charities likely raises the population somewhat, https://arxiv.org/pdf/2007.11388 but I don’t think this means that they’ll hold the affected nations back.

First of all, being stricken by horrendous diseases tends to hold nations back economically. This effect seems vastly more significant https://blog.givewell.org/2013/05/15/flow-through-effects/ than the negative economic impact of a slightly larger population, particularly because it’s not clear whether a larger population will develop more slowly or more quickly. America is better-off economically than we were in the 1800s, when the population was lower and disease was a greater burden.


Second, it looks like effective charities tend to lower the fertility rate somewhat but this effect is counterbalanced by the lives saved. But things go much better in society if fewer people are born and die, rather than if more people both are born and die. Vast amounts of resources are wasted if people die shortly after birth.


Third, if you’re concerned about this, just give to other charities. Give to charities that make people’s lives better—e.g. by curing blindness— https://www.givewell.org/charities/helen-keller-international or that help animals on factory farms. https://www.farmkind.giving/ If you end up concluding that charities saving lives are bad, then just give elsewhere! It would be shocking, and suspiciously convenient, if every single charity on the planet did more harm than good!
Anonymous (ID: bhfjvKvn) United States No.515091227 >>515091335
>>515089966 (OP)
Are the children brown?
Anonymous (ID: emthukxR) United States No.515091244
>>515091112
Appending:
>africa starving
>feed africa
>population explodes
>still fucking starving
>niggers kill all the plants and eat dirt
Pattern recognition is so complex...
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515091277
>>515091208
>>515091112
Fourth, I find this idea pretty intuitively repugnant. Imagine that you could save an African child drowning in a pond. This line of reasoning would seem to imply that doing so would be actively bad because of the impact on overpopulation. This kind of reasoning is not something we’d normally take seriously. Suspiciously, it only crops up when people are justifying not giving away their money. Hmm…

Another concern: shouldn’t we donate locally? Why should we help people overseas when those around us are suffering?

The answer is that it’s much easier to help people overseas. Most of the people who have fallen through the cracks in wealthy country are hard to help. It’s hard to help a homeless person who is on the streets. In contrast, saving lives overseas is cheap and easy—it costs just around 5,000 dollars to save someone’s life. https://www.givewell.org/charities/top-charities Plausibly, therefore, giving overseas does tens or hundreds of times more good than donating locally. So unless people in your city matter hundreds of times more than people overseas, it’s probably better to donate overseas.

I also find the idea pretty weird that we have extremely strong obligations to the people around us rather than far away. If you could save someone drowning in a pond, would it matter how far away they were? Would it matter if they were an American citizen? If people in your country matter more than people in another country, then people start mattering way more after they fly in a plane and fill out paperwork to become a citizen. But that’s very unintuitive. The reasons to save your life shouldn’t change because you signed some paperwork! In fact, holding that we have strong duties to our countrymen that don’t apply to foreigners often implies https://benthams.substack.com/p/america-second?utm_source=publication-search we should perform actions that harm one person and benefit no one!
Anonymous (ID: lu9ZUbDa) United States No.515091327
>>515090519
You’re wrong. Relying on foreign aid without a contingency plan for when it gets abruptly halted means you killed yourself.
Anonymous (ID: QB7VCFQy) United States No.515091335
>>515091227
Mostly, yes. Some are black though.
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515091347 >>515091457 >>515091496
>>515091182
Tax the rich and middle class, cut the military spending and corruption in it, cut back entitlements,
Anonymous (ID: FhOsaiv5) United States No.515091349
Thoughts and prayers
Anonymous (ID: lu9ZUbDa) United States No.515091416
>>515090801
The world is overpopulated
Anonymous (ID: B0wFd4FO) United States No.515091453
>>515090155
>38 trillion in debt
>the US gives too little

Go become friends with a rope, tranny. The reason these children are at risk to begin with is because we keep giving corrupt African countries money so that poor, starving African children can grow up to have more poor, starving African children.
Anonymous (ID: emthukxR) United States No.515091457
>>515091347
Tax the fuck out of single mothers, cut all aid to single mothers, force them back in with their parents.
Tie their fucking tubes.
Revoke their monetary independence.
Cancel Daddy Government.
Anonymous (ID: lu9ZUbDa) United States No.515091496 >>515091656
>>515091347
So we can afford to hand out gibs to FOREIGNERS? you want to raise my taxes so niggers with no money can have more kids and I have less money to send my kid to daycare so I can go to work to make more money to pay more taxes? How about no, fuck off
Anonymous (ID: RU2Zfrne) United States No.515091541
>>515089966 (OP)
>trump is personally responsible for the life of every poor person on earth
what the fuck lol
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515091656 >>515091758 >>515091844
>>515091496
What's a foreigner?
America is a fake country
If the police disappeared tomorrow everything would be on fire
This isn't the case in Japan or Iceland
Anonymous (ID: emthukxR) United States No.515091758
>>515091656
You caring is a social construct.
Stop being fake and gay.
Stop being a larping bitch.
Don't play into the current fake thing.
Anonymous (ID: ju0SRxMq) United States No.515091803
Ummm, excuse me samefagging, selfbumping OP(fag), you didn't answer my questions. Are these White people that are dying? Or are they yucky poopoo colored people?
Anonymous (ID: lu9ZUbDa) United States No.515091844 >>515091976
>>515091656
If America isn’t a country then who are you petitioning to pay more in foreign aid? Random strangers? Go petition China, Russia, India and Brazil to pick up the slack and leave my non-existent country out of it. /thread
Anonymous (ID: 6de6lQwi) United States No.515091881
>>515089966 (OP)
Still mad?
I mean the majority of Americans did not want Kamala.
How does it feel to be a minority.
Anonymous (ID: Zx9Q9CYZ) United States No.515091910 >>515092163
>>515090801
Well, at least some good comes from it.
Has standard of living improved? I see people cite standard of living as a moral justification for euthanasia (and yes, even infanticide as distinct from abortion) in the West. If standard of living and financial output aren't improving (or even not improving fast enough), this is completely consistent with postmodern Western ethics. The response you'd probably get with regards to infant mortality is that the death of children now minimizes their suffering later and is, under that paradigm, a moral obligation.
If you're disappointed or outraged, you'd better take a number. Some regions have had to agree to sterilization in exchange for aid. The sanctity of life is no longer politically significant enough for most politicians to consider it. WEIRD ethics is here to stay, and it's about to be warped further by an intense resurgence in nationalism and ethnic self-interest (which has already been on the rise as it is, usually from non-Europeans). This is the natural consequence of technocratic influence. Individuals are now treated as products and assets to be used to gather power and improve performance.
I can say without hesitation that if the most powerful people in the world took a vote, they would kill 90% of the human population without a second thought, if they believed they could get away with it and it didn't cut into their bottom line. More God complexes have emerged in the last hundred years than in human history- and we used to have people in charge who literally considered themselves divinities.
Anonymous (ID: a+2XWAe1) United States No.515091929
>>515089966 (OP)
Don’t care
Ifn niggers die
Aint got no reason cry
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515091976
>>515091844
Human beings. Regardless of "nationality" or "race"
>>515090221
Anonymous (ID: tub0571H) United States No.515092054
>>515089966 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515092163
>>515091910
Yes and this is the problem with secular morality. People itt are Satanists
>Do as thou wilt.... Just don't touch my stuff
Anonymous (ID: WPZj7FBK) United States No.515092216
>>515089966 (OP)
What color are the people he's killing?
Anonymous (ID: og9RVqca) United States No.515092626
>>515089966 (OP)
>decision is likely to kill millions of people
And?
Anonymous (ID: CynAZXdb) Germany No.515092633
>>515089966 (OP)
good. stop feeding pigeons.
Anonymous (ID: M6k7wb05) United States No.515092662 >>515093223
>>515091208
>First of all, being stricken by horrendous diseases tends to hold nations back economically
So they likely shouldn't have a large population in that region. You are trying to surpass the natural carrying capacity of the area. This causes harm locally, and creates an unneeded burden on other nations.
>Second, it looks like effective charities tend to lower the fertility rate somewhat but this effect is counterbalanced by the lives saved.
You are full of hit. The populations of these African countries has exploded since the huge push for charity started in the 80s. By giving handouts to them, you are causing more misery than they would have been able to cause on their own.
>Third, if you’re concerned about this, just give to other charities.
Using tax money for these scams is not "charity" under any definition of the word. Charity is voluntary. This is redistributive bullshit by people too stupid to understand second and third order consequences.
>Fourth, I find this idea pretty intuitively repugnant.
I find steal money from American workers to give away to other countries without consent morally repugnant. You dress up your ideology as altruism, but it isn't. You have no problem taking from people against their will in the name of doing what you see as "good, but in the process cause more harm to the people you are "helping". You are completely without morals, so couching your argument in moral terms is disingenuous and disgusting.
>The answer is that it’s much easier to help people overseas. Most of the people who have fallen through the cracks in wealthy country are hard to help.
Lets send them overseas then. Send some of these super helpful immigrants too since they don't cause crime, and don't cost money but only add economic value where ever they go. Every problem solved.
Anonymous (ID: 34s9L4pJ) No.515092967
>>515089966 (OP)
Pay your loans, they use that money to subsidize those programs and keep n----- alive
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515093223 >>515093283 >>515094714
>>515092662
>So they likely shouldn't have a large population in that region. You are trying to surpass the natural carrying capacity of the area. This causes harm locally, and creates an unneeded burden on other nations.

There's plenty of white places which are net food importers.

>You are full of hit. The populations of these African countries has exploded since the huge push for charity started in the 80s. By giving handouts to them, you are causing more misery than they would have been able to cause on their own.

Yes and they will eventually level out when they're no longer developing countries and there's more women's rights and education

>I find steal money from American workers to give away to other countries without consent morally repugnant. You dress up your ideology as altruism, but it isn't. You have no problem taking from people against their will in the name of doing what you see as "good, but in the process cause more harm to the people you are "helping". You are completely without morals, so couching your argument in moral terms is disingenuous and disgusting.

Taxes aren't stealing. You can think of it as reparations for historical wrongs.
Anonymous (ID: tftswBqD) United States No.515093269 >>515093459
>>515089966 (OP)
This "aid" is scraps of the profits given back to stabilize compliant client regimes. You empire is falling, liberal.
Anonymous (ID: 0GD25NNL) United States No.515093270
>>515089966 (OP)
Hah losers!
Anonymous (ID: emthukxR) United States No.515093283 >>515093573
>>515093223
>There's plenty of white places which are net food importers.
>I live in one.
Hello, nigger. Please stop being a parasite.
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515093459
>>515093269
It can be mutually beneficial
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515093573 >>515093934
>>515093283
>I live in a flyover state and am scared of cities and anywhere cold year round
Anonymous (ID: wyfg0hgz) United States No.515093650
>>515089966 (OP)
>africa
and why should i care?
Anonymous (ID: emthukxR) United States No.515093934
>>515093573
>cold year round
Identifying location in the continental US...
Location not found. Please elaborate.
>flyover state
>bitter winters
Uh.
>scared of cities
Ah, yes, that city that I live 30 minutes away from and absolutely hate due to exposure throughout my life...
Anonymous (ID: FA9TCMV5) No.515094419 >>515094501
>>515089966 (OP)

Since when is the Spawn of some foreign ZOG-Stooge, the responsibility of Americans...

I think its because the USAID money go cut-off from Nigger&Jew Plantations.

Jews rape Niggers and dispose of the Spawn on their enemies / targets.

Its like a Zoo/Laboratory where freaky experiments are performed on Golem-Spawn by ZOG-Pimps.
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515094501
>>515094419
Black people can understand the laws of logic.
Anonymous (ID: TX5gJWOw) United States No.515094508
>>515089966 (OP)
Good. There was supposed to be a devastating drought in the southern hemisphere that didn't really play out.
Anonymous (ID: TX5gJWOw) United States No.515094612
>>515090519
I voted for dead shitskins.
Anonymous (ID: M6k7wb05) United States No.515094714 >>515094888
>>515093223
>There's plenty of white places which are net food importers.
And they don't over populate and make it everyone else's problem. Black people =/= white people.
>Yes and they will eventually level out
They will level out if you stop sending them money. Sending niggers here money doesn't end their problems, and it won't end them elsewhere in the world.
>Taxes aren't stealing.
It is. Even if you want to make some BS civic responsibility argument, the taxes are meant for the maintenance of this country. IF you have enough to give away to other countries for free, then you have stolen excess money from your own populace. It isn't a private coffer of a king, this is supposedly a representative system remember?
>You can think of it as reparations for historical wrongs.
Ah yes, the old two wrongs make a right idiocy of the left. And you have the nerve to talk about morals to anyone.
Anonymous (ID: YmBSUs35) United States No.515094888 >>515094918 >>515095240
>>515094714
Doing coups, election meddling, assassinations, color revolutions, etc etc is wrong
Giving money to victims is right

Hope that clears things up for you
Anonymous (ID: 9eggzS5X) United Kingdom No.515094918
>>515094888
They should have formed functioning civilisations like white people
Anonymous (ID: M6k7wb05) United States No.515095240
>>515094888
The only infrastructure that exists in Africa was built by white people, and recently by the Chinese. Spending over a trillion there has not improved things at all. They are a failed race, and the only good thing to do is let them fail.
You also failed to address anything I have said. Each response from you gets shorter, because you are running out of bullshit excuses. Stop subsidizing failure, and there will be less failure.