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Anonymous (ID: 1U53BdOb) No.515116889 >>515117014 >>515117595 >>515117660 >>515117940 >>515118046 >>515118146 >>515123338 >>515126733 >>515127100 >>515127446 >>515130903 >>515131106 >>515132597
Separating the Art from the Artist
Are you capable of appreciating artists despite sharing none of their beliefs or opposing them entirely?

For me, it's Maggie Rogers. On the surface, she embodies everything I loathe about modern female Pop. She's a progressive poster child who stumps for the Democratic Party, cites feminist theory like scripture and serenades a liberal middle class audience hellbent on transforming America into a political monoculture. This dissonance between her girl-next-door image on album with her high-class call girl Gala appearances also cannot be ignored. My inner Carl Schmitt demands the friend/enemy distinction, but I sheath my sword for her. Beneath the activism lies something rarer than ideological alignment: raw humanity.

Surrender sounds like a private journal blasted through stadium-sized hooks. Energetic and upbeat songs like "Shatter", "Want Want" and "Overdrive" hit with fuzzed adrenaline while "Be Cool" exhales into groove-cooled calm. Other songs like "Anywhere With You" and "Begging for Rain" drip with melancholy without being maudlin. Nothing stagnates; even the quiet tracks stay in motion.

Maggie's resonant purity inspires building futures or collapsing into into the arms of someone who loves you after a brutal day. All told, it may be the most unapologetically human album ever to breach Pop radio
Anonymous (ID: 1TsYBEGH) United States No.515117014 >>515117196 >>515117595 >>515119307
>>515116889 (OP)
I'm getting Hughey Lewis and the News vibes from this
Anonymous (ID: Czry6nYB) No.515117196
>>515117014
Could be worse. OP sounds like a music journalist.
Anonymous (ID: Czry6nYB) No.515117595 >>515117957
>>515116889 (OP)
>>515117014
Just googled her. LOL! She loves showing off her nipples.
Anonymous (ID: a+a3/b41) United States No.515117660 >>515119307
>>515116889 (OP)
Yeah
As long as the art itself isnt political
Anonymous (ID: 7cEx+Fq5) Italy No.515117817 >>515119307
All the music I listen to is made by degenerate faggot leftists and niggers
Anonymous (ID: vZZEu0pj) United States No.515117940 >>515119307
>>515116889 (OP)
yeah. there's some music I like even though I think the singers a piece of shit. theres some movies I like even if the actor or director is a piece of shit
Anonymous (ID: BNj0BHvp) United States No.515117957 >>515118997 >>515120506
>>515117595
It's not like she can show off her titties, she doesn't have any.
Idontbumpthreads (ID: fEZq0DOc) United States No.515118046 >>515119307
>>515116889 (OP)
>Memeflag
>1pbtid
Lol
Anonymous (ID: MBPA05N1) United Kingdom No.515118146
>>515116889 (OP)
Yes.
For me, it's Maid Marian.
Anonymous (ID: Czry6nYB) No.515118997 >>515120506 >>515128639
>>515117957
She has them.
Anonymous (ID: SuLqzX7y) No.515119307 >>515119653 >>515120901 >>515121385 >>515130916
>>515117014
>>515117660
>>515117817
>>515117940
>>515118046
In the odd chance you're curious, here are some songs I'll send your way:
https://youtu.be/JHh3w5xgSkc
https://youtu.be/SylF32J2g8k
https://youtu.be/gWjr_r5vJzA
https://youtu.be/gigJjgPThYA
https://youtu.be/rhqYKHpiZ3E
https://youtu.be/WdrNXRdkuG4
Anonymous (ID: Czry6nYB) No.515119653
>>515119307
Hmm, not bad. I expected much worse but was pleasantly surprised.
Anonymous (ID: Czry6nYB) No.515120506
>>515117957
>>515118997
No idea what she's trying to prove by showing off her nipples in public.
Idontbumpthreads (ID: fEZq0DOc) United States No.515120901 >>515121248
>>515119307
Wasn't/am not
Anonymous (ID: Czry6nYB) No.515121248 >>515121406
>>515120901
Cut OP some slack. He's trying to have a metapolitical discussion on a political board.
Anonymous (ID: a+a3/b41) United States No.515121385 >>515126599 >>515128079
>>515119307
No dude I dont listen to women sing
Idontbumpthreads (ID: fEZq0DOc) United States No.515121406
>>515121248
>Cut OP some slack
No
>Memeflag
Lol
Anonymous (ID: 92DCU0fd) No.515123338 >>515123965
>>515116889 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98UhqoMwdlA

Saiyo Pito de Oro (Golden Cock)
Anonymous (ID: Czry6nYB) No.515123965
>>515123338
What are they most known for?
Anonymous (ID: Czry6nYB) No.515126599
>>515121385
Sad
Anonymous (ID: U/rs4DBc) United States No.515126733
>>515116889 (OP)
Hello anon I remember you from /mu/
Anonymous (ID: BtsiOclQ) Poland No.515127100 >>515131426
>>515116889 (OP)
>>Surrender sounds like a private journal blasted through stadium-sized hooks. Energetic and upbeat songs like "Shatter", "Want Want" and "Overdrive" hit with fuzzed adrenaline while "Be Cool" exhales into groove-cooled calm. Other songs like "Anywhere With You" and "Begging for Rain" drip with melancholy without being maudlin. Nothing stagnates; even the quiet tracks stay in motion.
>
>Maggie's resonant purity inspires building futures or collapsing into into the arms of someone who loves you after a brutal day. All told, it may be the most unapologetically human album ever to breach Pop radio
Anonymous (ID: Xcz/nFN5) United States No.515127446 >>515127979 >>515128284 >>515128356
>>515116889 (OP)
All art is fake and gay.
Anonymous (ID: BtsiOclQ) Poland No.515127979 >>515128421
>>515127446
Au contraire. Art allows one to comprehend the noumena/the Will, ergo it is actually more real than the material world.
Anonymous (ID: QevnzACr) United Kingdom No.515128079
>>515121385
What about a trans woman?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=N6-svj5HK9o
Anonymous (ID: TgHsTV7f) United States No.515128284 >>515128894
>>515127446
Anonymous (ID: 2/oQortl) Netherlands No.515128356
>>515127446
brown hands typed this.
Anonymous (ID: Xcz/nFN5) United States No.515128421
>>515127979
Art is a fraudulent attempt to cheat time by stealing genuine emotion and trying to preserve it in a format that allows those in the future to leech off of an emotion should that should have been left to exist only in the moment it happened. It can never achieve this goal, rather it starts a series of perversions until it no longer represents what inspired it. Very fake. Very gay.
Anonymous (ID: xj2Pc4YY) United States No.515128639 >>515130459
>>515118997
generic HR roastie phenotype
Anonymous (ID: Xcz/nFN5) United States No.515128894
>>515128284
Not bad, bud definitely fake and gay.
Anonymous (ID: Czry6nYB) No.515130459
>>515128639
Could be worse.
Anonymous (ID: Zbs+xI3D) Canada No.515130903
>>515116889 (OP)
My take on this is i absolutely love artists I disagree with. A lot of their art, whether it's music or paintings or whatever, is an expression of the way they've viewed the world so far, and i think exposes one to the flaws of their worldview.

Take for instance Marina Diamandis. Absolutely AMAZING artist, incredibly influential. I even bought her book of poems. So many of her problems, from her depression, her anxiety, so many things, IVE STRUGGLED WITH, and theyve gotten better through discipline, family, and conservatism ; from her perspective though, I find it absolutely beautiful that such a human soul could be so tragically lost in this world, and they become resentful, even hateful of the world and its norms as a defense mechanism or measure of insecurity. But make no mistake, I can easily separate her from her art, but both appreciate her as a person and her art, and i can distance myself from both on that level as well.
Anonymous (ID: b6yh+rA4) No.515130916
>>515119307
That's actually decent.
I really don't care about the politics part when comes to music, and most modern music this days is trash

https://youtu.be/XD7r7HCRmB0?list=RDEM_KvRTeoqUrshbAeapAJUXg
Anonymous (ID: vVdeHiz6) Germany No.515131106 >>515132149
>>515116889 (OP)
I can't watch any Tom Cruise movies because of his Scientology bullshit. The video he tried so desperately to delete from the internet is still very present in my mind.
Anonymous (ID: Czry6nYB) No.515131426
>>515127100
You inspired me.
Anonymous (ID: Czry6nYB) No.515132149
>>515131106
To this day, I still am amazed by this:
https://youtu.be/UFBZ_uAbxS0
Anonymous (ID: 2ltnRy7M) United States No.515132597 >>515135366
>>515116889 (OP)
Your interpretation of her music is retarded, you don't understand the psychological motivations behind artistic expression.
I've listened to her music, her art is a cry for help because her spirit is lost in globohomo. If a strong, rational, moral man dicked her down she'd immediately switch up her music to a more positive vibe, and then soon after stop doing it altogether. I've met tons of women like this, they become artists as a sexual strategy. She is trying to emotionally trick chad into giving up the dick because she can't compete with good wives via quality wifehood, and she can't compete with the hot sluts with sex. Now, because the left claimed her music, she can't easily find a chad, and likely has to settle for the pedro pascal "soft man" shit. You'd be surprised how much of female art is just an unconscious chad dick acquisition strat.

It's literally that simple.
Anonymous (ID: Ot8y+Q5v) United States No.515133530 >>515133963
A great deal of modern "pop culture" is literally just porn with extra steps and propaganda mixed in and its arbiters and publishers are openly zionist.

Music, movies, television, video games, literature, visual and performing arts, and so on. Art needs real merit to succeed without Haram.

We have reached a point where I'd say the vast majority of pop culture is watered down porn with deranged political messaging, and that this is a reflection of our Weimar state.

I believe that Islam can be instrumental and saving and preserving Western culture, to bring us back a time when traditional values and traditional culture gave us great works.

Endless deconstruction of the past and transgression of social and cultural norms in place of actual value and substance is a dead end road.
Anonymous (ID: gmkVy0xw) United States No.515133963
>>515133530

>I believe that Islam can be instrumental in* saving and preserving Western culture, to bring us back a time when traditional values and traditional culture gave us great works.

This is what God believers build, for the glory of God. What do our architects build today? What are our great works? Bank buildings and private mansions for zionists.

Cold, closed off spaces that openly reject and even rebel against beautiful tradition and achievements of the past. The heart and soul is gone, the divine spark that drives the artist to transcendent greatness that requires faith in God.

Art has generally declined as a result of secularization. Style over substance, abstractness over hard work and skill. You can't tell me that a renaissance painting is on the same level as a banana taped to a canvas. No, I just won't accept it. We can do better, I know we can.
Anonymous (ID: nHAaNwCP) No.515135366
>>515132597
Maybe. Her follow up album is about dealing with separation