Thread 515126573

- The real estate bubble has burst.
- Economy is slowly down.
- New graduates cannot find a job.
- Deflation has set in.

So they will have a political crisis in 2030-2035.

Ima keep shilling gold
So the drumpfers grither scheme tanks

Bukele best be careful…..

>>515126743
*bitcoin grift scheme tanks

>>515126573 (OP)
Very far from it.

If you compare China to 1995 Japan, you are severely underestimating both the grandeur of China and the severity of the 1990s crisis in Japan.

You are also begging us to look at a Tier 2 city in China or an average city in Japan, and feel sorry for you people when we can get beheaded for trying to take the metro.

>Ching chong wing wong sucki sucki 5 dorrar
Why didn’t you Japs subjugate them when you had the chance?

They will just invade Taiwan, problem solved.

>>515126573 (OP)
Again?

>>515127281
You literally stopped them.

>>515127281
They didn't have a chance. Americans got involved.

>>515126573 (OP)

Youve described every country in the world anon.

>>515127417
I want it to come down to brand competition broh.
I’m pretty confident about the western/abrahamic brand.

China's growth is an illusion. That double digit GDP increase during years was just bouncing back from extreme poverty caused by Mao.

>>515126573 (OP)
China today is like Japan in 2039

>>515126573 (OP)
>oyvey a bubbre...
>hory ancestros, we lose moneys chingchong!

Here's the difference between China and the west:
The new middle class loses wealth. The markets adjust. It sucks. Eventually, everybody realises that
>the west is full of niggers, jeets, browns. China is full of IQ 100+ Chinamen
>the west is led by jews. China is led by Chinamen
>the west has decaying or little infrastructure. China has continually investing in rail, bridges, fleets etc
>the west is academically investing in environmentalism, zionism, leftism, feminism, anti fascism and so on. China is academically investing in engineering, biology, math, physics, IT
>Europe has no resources. China has resources and is friends with Putler

So whatever happens, China's future looks good.

The Real estate bubble is real but in the end, China is still Chinese and making sane plans for the future.
We live in a zoo led by insane zionists.

>>515126573 (OP)
By most measures, the US is more likely to collapse well before China

-Stock market bubble carried by a handful of companies.
-The economy, outside of the FAG7, is slowing down.
-New graduates cannot find a job.
-Inflation is still above 2% and is likely to increase anally destroying everyone who isn't already holding assets.
-Boomers who are retiring and still iron-gripping every asset and position of power from the next generations to sell to private interests.
-Refuses to invest in new industries like solar, wind, or EVs even though they just werk.
-A retarded executive, legislative, and judicial system, that is obvious no longer able to engage in longterm planning, has no obvious direction for the future economy (Outside of "SAVE ME AI-SAMA!!!"), or is so slow to move with anything that we get left behind.

But yeah 2 MORE WEEK until it's over for the chinaman! Trust the plan! The West will win in the end! sure bud

>>515126786
BTC is you're financial god, memeflaggot.

>>515127417
No.
I know that, but it ignores the economic cycle.
I have consistently said for a long time that China's political crisis will come in the 2030s.

>>515126573 (OP)
>China today is like Japan
Not really. Japan’s bubble economy burst at the end of the 80’ because the US screwed them over with the Plaza Accord, whereas China’s economy is suffering because of the CCP’s system of centralised control. The Chinese government could fix their economic problems if they converted to free market capitalism, however they won’t do this as they blame free market capitalism for the collapse of the USSR.

>>515127281
US interfered and ruined everything.
>subjugate them
Japan was trying to liberate Chinese people from the KMT and CCP. China today could’ve been another Taiwan or Korea, instead it’s a corrupt communist shithole.

>>515127408
The US and Japan (as well as possibly other regional allies) would get involved. This is why China hasn’t invaded.

>>515126573 (OP)
Imagine what would happen if the West revoked their student visas and confiscated the property owned by their domestic investors.

>>515127910
>Japan in 2039 will be a poverty ridden, murderous, corrupt communist shithole
I hope not

>>515129172
You sound anxious.

>>515132065
I am anxious, because I'm still young and will have to live through the consequences of our retardation. With the diminished quality of our populace and elite classes, in no world will life get better over time for me, my family, or the people I care about. It all just ever so slowly get worse and worse, like how life has been in the UK. It's very frustrating to think about.

>>515126573 (OP)
that's funny, because Japan today is like Japan in 1995 only with more boomer kleptocracy and more potemkin bullshit about changing shit

>>515131906
>The US
would crumble the instant it lost a surface vessel and it would lose a fucking lot trying to fight in the south china sea
>Japan
completely irrelevant strategically and militarily.
>This is why China hasn't invaded.
China hasn't invaded because China is very successfully working Taiwan into reunification, which it's people want.

>>515126573 (OP)
Its over!

>>515127026
>Brazil is literally hell on earth so I don't believe anything bad can happen anywhere else ever
>>515129172
the US being in bad shape doesn't somehow make the future of China look any better.
>>515133027
I'm sorry gook anon, but 5'6 yellow boys would get folded by our weakest hick, nigger, or spic in an instant, China is still playing catch up with our military tech, and is critically behind in their naval technology and naval arsenal. those civilian cargo ships won't stand up to American destroyers and battleships. also, Japan may have a pathetically small military, but to discounting the island's strategic importance shows your low IQ.

>>515126573 (OP)
most of the world is like this and will have issues in the 2030s, especially the USA

Just so you know you dirty jap. Majority of /pol/ is siding and rooting for Based China when the inevitable WW3 in the pacific happens.

>>515134297
>stolen soviet art style
>stolen Caucasian proportions
what even are these

>>515126573 (OP)
Time to import infinity pajeets and make it all even worse.

>>515127026
huh?

>>515126573 (OP)
Cool. Something tells me I'd still rather live in Hong Kong. Less likely to get randomly stabbed to death than in the west

>>515134593
Obviously it's Soviet Russian propaganda, who knows what a Vietnamese/Chinese woman's face looks like, but nothing else, so he is filling in the blanks with what appeals to him.
It is working for me.

>>515126573 (OP)
2 more weeks than.

>>515131779
It's so sad.
I see videos of Chinese people just walking by a toddler with pulverized legs in the middle of the road, nobody stopping to help or even pull the baby to safety. I see videos of Chinese people skinning dogs alive for their pelts to sell, then throwing the still-aware, skinned animal onto a stinking pile of other skinned dogs to die on its own time. I see Chinese people using flamethrowers and boiling water on living animals to prepare them for eating. I see Chinese people chewing up living animals, crunching their squirming bones between their chinky teeth.
I see stuff like that, stuff straight out of Hell, literal demons torturing other creatures for fun, and then I read about
>rape of Nanking
And I think...
The evil Chinese are making it up.
They're imagining what they'd do, if they had the chance, and accusing others of doing it to them.
I don't believe China when they play victim. They just project.

>>515136519
After all the rioting and police brutality in recent years, why Hong Kong of all places???

>>515127408
>problem solved.
China ha build their own ASML. Problem solved.

Taiwan is irrelevant now.
Japan is irrelevant now.
Sony's CMOS tech is easily copied.
Cannon Tokki has lost their monopoly on OLED sputtering machine.
Tokyo Ohka has lost their monopoly on chemichal photoresist.

>>515137510
>China ha build their own ASML
They can't. They fucking suck at chip fabrication and everybody knows it. And now they can't steal the tech they desperately need. They're kind of fucked.

>>515138076
>They can't.
They already have Mutt.
Your software has been solved.
Zeiss precision optics was solved a decade ago when they migrated optics design to computer calculation.
You no longer have monopoly on high power light source.
You no longer have monopoly on nanoscale actuators.

You're cooked Mutt.
You couldn't run fast enough.

>>515126573 (OP)
> they will have a political crisis in 2030-2035.
Will be coming too late for the West if at all.

>>515126573 (OP)
>is like Japan in 1995

except they are not making amazing anime

>>515138466
China's been wearing a chip manufacturing cuck-cage for 4 years now, lol. They can't manufacture anything smaller than 70nm toaster microchips at this point. Which is entirely appropriate, because the Chinese are followers and never leaders.

Dragon Century ended 75 years early, kek.

>>515137105
>rioting and police brutality in recent years
oh noes not the heckin police brutality! I'm not going there to protest the government, that's ridiculous behavior people seem to save for the USA. Crime rates are far lower than the USA, especially violent crime. Someone literally got shot by police outside my doctor's office a week ago.
I've known people who have gone there and say it and Macau are very fun. It's different. Idk why not?

>>515138826
>China's been wearing a chip manufacturing cuck-cage for 4 years now
Nah, they broke through 12 months ago and killed the ASML stocks.

You're done Mutt.

>>515127569
>China's growth is an illusion.
Id say china's growth is the only real growth out there

>>515138954
Keep dreaming, Chang. It must drive you faggots crazy to know that the AI Revolution is going on entirely in the United States and there's no way you can even take part in it.

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/china-injects-tens-of-billions-of-dollars-in-chipmaking-tools-but-its-easily-more-than-a-decade-behind-the-market-leaders-heres-why

>>515127569
>caused by Mao.
According to american propagandists.
Why do you still believe in the anglokik lies in 2025?
litterally
>They maay hav lid to m about this, BUT THEY WOULD NEVER LIE TO ME ABOUT THAT!!!
You need to be smarter than that.

>>515139301
>Keep dreaming,
Mutt, all the ASML owners have abandoned the sinking ship like rats.

>>515134001
>gook
If you're gonna post on /pol/ at least get your racial slurs right.

Japanese = Nip
Korean = Gook
Chinese = Chink

Have some self pride. Get it right.

>>515127026
The demographic falloff is the same. The average Chinese person is over 45.

>>515139474
I didn't know ASML was an American company. Last I heard, the administration is jumping in feet first to back Intel instead so america is wholly self-sufficient in the market (as it should be). Little wonder they're having misfortunes.

And it appears that part of their problems are the sudden dropping Chinese chip demand. Probably because AI is made in America and will stay that way.

>>515140015
>the sudden dropping Chinese chip demand
It's because China ha their own highend workstation chips now.

>Probably because AI is made in America
Your rulers have already come to the conclusion a.i. is a nothingburger.
They can't pricegouge the planet when Deepseek is 100 times cheaper.

>Last I heard, the administration is jumping in feet first to back Intel
int.el is israeli company.
LMAO you're cooked beyond belieff.

>>515140015
ASML is a Dutch company. And they don't sell they EUV machines to China for the obvious reasons.

>>515140341
I hope you get out of prison soon anon.

>>515126573 (OP)
weve been hearing of chinas collapse for the last 30 years

>>515140396
>And they don't sell they EUV machines to China
They don't need to. ASML stockmarket dropped by 40% when China unveiled homegrown EUV.

>>515140443
Jennifer Zeng is based as fuck, I get all my news from her

>>515131623
>The Chinese government could fix their economic problems if they converted to free market capitalism, however they won’t do this as they blame free market capitalism for the collapse of the USSR.
Modern China is infinitely more market capitalism then USSR.

>>515140553
>ASML stockmarket dropped by 40% when China unveiled homegrown EUV.
When?

>>515140792
12 months ago>>515138954

>>515140699
She's definitely not a double agent promoting disinformation and poor judgement, like Gordon Chang

>>515140341
>Deepseek
Just like your picrel, an old headline from January 2025 that might as well be from a lifetime ago. OpenAI, Meta and Anthropic are the only relevent players at the present date. And Palantir, but that goes without saying. ;-)

>>515140553
Wow. A photo of a big fake machine, just like most of the fiberglass toys in your silly military parades.

>>515126573 (OP)
japan
>resource-poor island with a population much smaller than the US.
>occupied by US military and is dependent on America for its protection, America used its tremendous influence to persuade japan to commit economic suicide via Plaza Accord which made the Yen appreciate drastically
>relies on stock market as a significant and central driver of economic activity. this meant that during the lost decade, the Yen appreciated drastically and it led to an to an asset bubble that tanked their stock market and real state market, both of which japan was not prepared for.
>Japan’s deflation commenced when it was the most expensive economy in the world - $100 cantaloupes in Tokyo in 1990. Japan deflation was caused by demand shock.
>Japan grew old when AI/highly sophisticated automation wasn't a thing.

china
>4x the population of the us, of similar geographical size as the US
>has cheap energy from coal (and now green energy), the world's largest agriculture producer, has nukes.
>rich in critical resources like rare earth metals with a monopoly on rare earth metal refinement
>does not rely on stock market, gets capital primarily from state bank loans and government funding
>real estate bubble intentionally popped by the government so it could manage it better. basically a controlled demolition to pop the prices to more affordable levels and limit runaway speculation.
>china's deflation comes from being the cheapest economy in the world due to advancement in productivity and scale of supply chain. china's deflation is caused by supply shock. exact opposition situation from japan. See picrel
>The most brvtal trvthnvke is that everything aligned perfectly for China.Its demographic dividend (large young population) swept up the manufacturing on the planet in the 90s-2000s. Their hyper-industrialization now will facilitate their fourth industrial revolution of automation and artifical intelligence as their blue collar force is retiring over the next decades.

>>515141108
A lot of jewish buzzwords, but you can't get any money out of me, I paid into Deepseek

>A photo of a big fake
That photo killed 40% of ASML stock market and the institutional owners sold off ASML.

>>515140868
But when did China announce it then? Post sauce little bug.

>>515141380
I already did, Mutt.
You're cooked.

>>515127281

They couldn’t. That’s why. It would have been a very difficult task for a small country like that to conquer a giant continent spanning empire even if the entire world had cooperated and looked the other. It became an impossible task when America and the Western democracies embargoed them and also began helping their enemies. Their insane militarists basically got them in way over their head and stuck in an unwinnable war.

https://youtu.be/oErYYBNCHh4

>>515141501
There's not date in that screenshot anon. Try again.

>>515141561
It's a tweet from 2024.
The year all your old white man chip foundries went out of business.

>>515141726
Post link to the tweet then. There's not date in this screenshot either. Why is the date cropped out anon?

>>515127026
>you are severely underestimating both the grandeur of China
You can't expect to be taken seriously writing nonsense like this. I would love to hear some real information on the situation in China because it's basically completely unknown to anyone outside of China. But talking about the "grandeur of China" is a perfect way for no one to take you seriously.

>>515141780
>Post link to the tweet then.
Dig the tweet up yourself Mutt. You have the source of who posted.

Little pinks trying to cover this up deserve to be torn apart by their own countrymen for supporting a criminal and abusive regime of communist gangsters.

>>515126573 (OP)
NUMBER 11 CRASH AND BURN
CHINKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
http://www.google.com/search?q=china+collapse

>>515141971
Impotent mad mutt lol.

Why does China make Jews, mutts, and ZOGbots seethe so hard?

>>515141299
mean to use this pic

>>515141886
You don't have a link because you're just making shit up like yellow jews always do.

>>515131623
>The Chinese government could fix their economic problems if they converted to free market capitalism

>>515142206
>You don't have a link
Because I don't owe you anything. I provived a source that could b verified and falsified, but I know you're too fat and lazy to confirm, so I'm just going to let you rot as your country crumble.

>>515142516
>I provived a source that could b verified and falsified
No, you didn't honey. You can't post a sauce with date because it won't match up with ASML's stock drop. :)

>>515142706
>You can't post a sauce with date because it won't match up with ASML's stock drop
The date can be looked up, but it's not important enough to look up.
Just the 40% drop is enough to demoralise you and butthurt you.

Demoralise the Mutt.
Show the mutt all the dying amrimutt foundries.

looks like a perfect reason to start their imperial/colonization era.

china going to war in 2030-35 appears likely.
but then again we are looking at these metrics thinking china isn't a centrally planned economy and just another capitalist free market merchant empire.

Why are Japs like this?

>>515126573 (OP)
Annexing Taiwan and entering a wartime economy can easily fix this. Also Japan won’t have its own plaza accords since it is independent from the G7.

>>515143369
>Annexing Taiwan
They don't need the traitors anymore.
They don't need ASML anymore either.
Murrica is fucked.

>>515143821
American Politicians already betrayed American citizens and Taiwan when they outsourced all our manufacturing jobs to the PRC in the 90s and let them join the WTO in the 00s. We don’t owe them anything.

>>515142924
That has nothing to do with what we were talking about silly ricecel. Now you're just posting whatever to save face.

millennial once in a lifetime financial crisis baby here will this shit ever end? its been nonstop bullshit since 2008.

>>515144208
I'm pretty sure you're mad as fuck the actual american chip foundries have all died,
and you rely on jewish and taiwan foundries now.

>>515126573 (OP)
Bad comparison.
Japan was still wealthier than the US in terms of GDP per capita until the year 2000. China has a GDP per capita less than Mexico, a third world narcostate.

>>515145336
>per capita less than Mexico
It's fake.
You can leave a laptop on a cafe table in a busy mall in China, return an hour later and nobody has touched it.

Try the same in m00txico an Muttland and see what happens.

>>515145085
Yep, just unrelated spam because you can't post an actual article about China's supposed EUV machines. Sad!

>>515145661
See>>515140341
Lots of verified Mutt propagandists outright admit China no longer need te spyware filled Mutt mircochips anymore
>>the sudden dropping Chinese chip demand
>It's because China ha their own highend workstation chips now.

>>515126573 (OP)
>China will collapse
Been hearing this for years. Two more weeks?

>>515145873
You don't even have access to the internet lmao. Only allowed on 4chan with you shill folder of images kek. Is the bossman standing behind you right now anon?

>>515146117
Lol, retarded Mutt has gone insane.

>>515146285
You can't post any links at all kek. Actual prisoner. I feel sorry for you.

>>515127569
This. Manufacturing is an illusion. Real growth is in banking.

>>515146496
What would I need a link for, Mutt?
Your chip industry is dying. LOL

>>515146899
I feel sorry for you and hope you get out soon. Do what you need to anon.

The main differences between China and Japan then are that China is very natural resource rich and has a large and cheap labor pool. FDI in China will remain attractive for that reason. Anyone hoping on a Chinese economic collapse will be disappointed. Our last hope was getting them crunched to death by central bankers but they’ve avoided that.

.

>>515126573 (OP)
sure sure, here is one rupee for your shilling

>>515127417

Lol thanks for posting this. State Dept and glow in the darks are big mad. the propaganda is so lazy. China is absolutely crushing it and it's because they prioritize their people and reducing poverty.

>>515147075
>I feel sorry
You should feel sorry for your dying chip industry, lel.

>>515143369
They need fullscale war in europe to draw us resourses from pacific first and Mr. Orange is trying to prevent this.

>>515148515
most of us industry is offshore outside us not only semiconductors , due to chain supply lissues not because china takeover

>>515132744
Have you ever thought that is just a consequence of the people (and the elites even more) living beyond their means?

>Muh Global Britain!
>Muh America is the World Police!
>Muh American Full Spectrum Dominance!
>Muh International Law!
>Muh Rules Based Liberal Democratic World Order!

Etc.
Balkanise and shill.

>>515131906
the US wouldn't do shit. it's better to look like a pussy and stay away, than to get involved, lose, and remove any doubts that your military is outdated shit.

>>515149095
>https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/05/pentagon-national-defense-strategy-china-homeland-western-hemisphere-00546310
"Pentagon officials are proposing the department prioritize protecting the homeland and Western Hemisphere, a striking reversal from the military’s yearslong mandate to focus on the threat from China.

A draft of the newest National Defense Strategy, which landed on Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s desk last week, places domestic and regional missions above countering adversaries such as Beijing and Moscow, according to three people briefed on early versions of the report."

5 more years and china will collapse

>>515126573 (OP)
Two more weeks, Gomez.
Two more weeks.

>>515149161
>most of us industry is offshore outside us
They actually had many low-end semiconductor foundries located in Muttmerica, but they began to die en masse in 2024.

>not because china takeover
It's not true, China fully dominates the power regulaating chip market at the low end.
And fully dominates the all important 28nm node for your everyday appliances and car.

>>515126573 (OP)
>2 more peaks
wtf the 3 gorges dam just collapsed and flew over my house!

>>515140443
>got prisoned because broke the law of the country
>work for country
how is it bad?

>>515149797
The American General Staff publishes its plans in the media. And democratic media cannot lie.

>>515140528
any week now!

>>515150108
Not everything is a conspiracy.

>>515150047
they'll try to pull this economy up with another massive credit inflation - another house of cards - so that the market doesnt crash and everyone has jobs and gets their pension and 401ks and their cars and new iphone and tv's and whatnot

so much misdirection:
US economy tanks
1. economy slows down.
1.1. lean into it deporting the migrants
1.2. tariffs

>> recession would normally reduce spending and lower slow inflation
2. inflation rises
2.1. lean into it and threaten to fire jerome powell
2.2. lean into it and actually fire EconData Chief.

but chinky chonky china rhetoric blinding you from noticing Oligarch are in a feeding frenzy in the US.

>>515150203
Its not conspiracy. Just dry strategic analysis. China need Taiwan to begin military expansion in the Pacific and Indian ocean to secure sea trade routes to consumers of their industry. On the other hand a significant part of American economic power is based on control of sea trade routes. Both countries on the edge of decline, so a collision is inevitable

>>515127569
>China's growth is an illusion.

You know shit like Facebook probably adds hundreds of billions onto US GDP right? Compared to things like that, China's growth is very real.

>>515126573 (OP)
This is bullshit. China is nothing like the 90's Japan. It's a matter of time before China's GDP overtakes the US's. An American collapse is far more likely than any chinese collapse.

>>515140699
>> I get all my news from her

Well there's your problem right there. - whatever side of the Overton you're on.

>>515151189
Why don't you go back then?

>>515151189
US gdp will never be overtaken by china
China always tries to make tanks and missiles cheaper while the US, being controlled by jews, always seeks to inflate the cost and prices of goods to squeeze as much profit out as they can.

So china can have 50x times the missiles or drones but the gdp number will be lower

>>515151189
the only treat that china do to us is not military or gpd meme but western ip cant be protected anymore if everything will be copied by chink why will innovate anymore

>>515126573 (OP)
>2030-2035
China will collapse any day now.
Just two more congressional elections...

>>515126573 (OP)
> So they will have a political crisis in 2030-2035.

I’m used to two more weeks until chink collapse. Now you globohomos say it will take 10 years and they’ll come out looking like the Japs? Fuck me
We aren’t even supposedly collapsed but the jews have replaced American White people.

>>515129172
Kek this is the case

>>515151189
China already overtook the USA in every metric since 2014. Going by industrial output and electricity consumption China's economy is 2-3x larger than the USA's. GDP is a fake and gay stat and should be disregarded.

lol
two more weeks

>>515126573 (OP)
Again, it's not a collapse but more like a decline. Not that it's a good thing for chinks, but yeah their biggest resource, population, has been down and they've been faking the data for he last decade.

>>515127417
Those are just as fake as the chinese tech progress, especially their shitty robotics. China is still dimensions behind and lack the innovation. The chinks think that they will somewhat win just by stealing what westerners innovate and being at least one step behind their western superiors.

>>515129228
Big words from a corporate slave. You can't even solve your nigger problems.

>>515153875
There are no white people in the west. It's literally chinks vs pajeets, niggers and muslims.

>>515153303
Exactly, all that’s left is some fancy jew exchange rate math that says our economy is “bigger”. In every real world sense they dwarf us in every conceivable way.

>>515154046
There are enough left, but easily 50+% of the White people left are geriatric boomers. The younger generations seems to be heavily shitskinned and or mixed. Our demographics are falling off of a cliff.

>>515126573 (OP)
>more land
>more factories
>unlimited global demand
>unlimited labor force
I'm not too sure

>>515129172
You realize China has fields with tens of thousands of EVs that aren't even operable, right?

>>515127417
> too moar weex

>>515133027
We have been perfecting satellite killer technology since the 60s. With push of a button we can disable all of their guidance systems without affecting Chinese infrastructure. What's chang gonna do when they fire a missile and it just drops into the ocean? A war between China and the U.S. would be TCD

>>515126573 (OP)
Japan had their days counted by the plaza accord, China doesn't have that.

>>515129172
>Refuses to invest in new industries like solar, wind, or EVs even though they just werk.
remove this and your post is ok. Solar, wind and EVs are bullshit that can only survive with massive subsidies. We should have already had 4th Gen LFTR fission reactors we invented them 60 plus years ago. With all the coal in america we have 500 plus years of both base load utility power and liquid hydrocarbons for vehicle fuel and petrochemical use. China is building them as we speak.

>>515157520
>China is building them as we speak.
https://www.neimagazine.com/news/china-refuels-thorium-reactor-without-shutdown/

STAY OUT of the United States, shitskins.