Thread 515134704

Low TFR. Not immigration.
Immigration is just a symptom of the problem. The reason the immigrants are coming is because they're the only ones breeding.

Much of the world is constantly complaining about immigration, but they're also the ones who will endlessly criticize any leader for taking steps to improve the birth rate, like promoting a return to traditional values and such. I saw an article the other day where in the comments people were criticizing Project 2025 because they felt the government only wanted us to be birth more people so they could become slaves. Newsflash idiots, if you don't breed, you die.

>>515134704 (OP)
Is literally everyone not breeding? No. There are still people having kids. It just means the average joe is having less.

A society can survive half its population dying off without disappearing. Look at what happened in Europe after the black death. Property prices plummeted as land became plentiful. Wages became higher becase there was less skilled workers, so they could charge more. Serfs began to travel for work more and leave their feudal estates, causing an economic boom and new towns to spring up. You know what does destroy a nation? Mass importing foreigners to where they live and then forcing them to live alongside them by law.

>>515134704 (OP)
>population must grow
>line must go up
We are full, we can do with about half our population

>>515134704 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Aa4rQ9wzI

>>515134987
well said, if boomers die off no-one would give a fuck, all is some line must go up psyop, they are reproaching you for not reproducing, slave

>>515134704 (OP)
Population decline is a temporary problem. Racial replacement is a permanent problem.

>>515134987
You're forgetting one crucial difference: Kikes at the top could not import gajillions of jeets and mudslimes in a span of few months back then

>>515134987
>Look at what happened in Europe after the black death.
That was before industralization, modern healthcare, modern human rights conventions, modern capitalism, dumbass paki.
Capitalism isn't going to fail, you're just going to get bred out, and if you truly believe this you deserve it.

>>515134704 (OP)
>The reason the immigrants are coming is because they're the only ones breeding.
The reason immigrants are coming is because jew owned NGOs are picking them up and bringing them over here.

>>515135418
>Population decline is a temporary problem
It's been happening since the Industrial Revolution, everywhere, not just in Europe or North America. Even South America and China has low TFR There's ghost towns in Japan, Greece, Italy, Korea, etc.
The baby boom managed to boost birth rates but they fell off a cliff after.
How is it a temporary issue that spans CENTURIES? Do you think before you hit post? Historically illiterate?

the real issue is people living old and decrepit for longer and longer with society having to take care of them.

>>515135535
No actually. Look at everywhere they're coming from. They're all coming from places with historically high TFRs like South Asia, the Middle East, South Africa, etc.
Oh no but the scawwy Jews just decided arbitrarily to dump a load of niggers on us!! It's not because we're not breeding and will be empty by 2060 when all the boomers and millennials die off!

>>515135977
big issue is that current healthcare effectively prolong lifespan but not healthspan

>>515135853
Because you can theoretically bounce back from it. Europe used to be underpopulated, what makes you think it'll die if it is again?

>>515134704 (OP)
Muslims have flooded us for 58 years BECAUSE they're provided a wealthy work-free luxury life here, and as they're violent and murderous savages we of course do not want to produce innocent children in such a destroyed and dangerous society.

>>515135100
>We are full
HAHAHAHAHAHA
For every 1 immigrant you could've produced 1 Dutch native, instead you're only 75% of the population.
More than 1/4 of your population is non-Dutch LMFAO.

>>515134704 (OP)
>immigrants are good
>you're the problem
>population must go up even if quality of life and environment turn to shit
Fuck you faggot. The reason people aren't having kids is because the cost of family formation is constantly increasing due to income inequality, who wants to start a family when bills continually increase and pay doesn't?

Precisely the reason immigrants come here is because their quality of life increases by doing so. Natives are supposed to accept a downgrade so foreigners and the ultra-rich get an upgrade. Supporting that system is not going to be a good look in the years to come.

>>515136285
>Because you can theoretically bounce back from it.
Not when you live in a country that is heavily industrialized. People are always going to value the survival of the system over the survival of their race. The whole world is industrialized now and not a single country is willing to step down from being top dog because it could mean the loss of a whole lot more: technology, global dominance, power, influence, production of arms, deterrence, etc.
>Europe used to be underpopulated
In the 14th Century when the understanding of medicine was so primitive doctors were telling plague victims to bathe in their own piss. You want to go back to being a third world shithole?

So what? What's the worst that could happen? No more white people and the world turns into an enslaved brown hellscape run by jews? Why should I care? I'll be dead anyway. It doesn't matter what happens, the sun is eventually going to erase everything on the planet and make it as though nothing ever existed here in the first place. All gone. Ctrl-X

>>515136861
>You want to go back to being a third world shithole?
If it's White that's preferable to being brown. So yes.

>>515136975
So you want White India, got it.

>>515136914
If you're White and you're not breeding YOU'RE the problem, not Jews or any scapegoat you invent.
But if you seriously believe wholeheartedly in this nihilistic worldview, you're worthless genetically and should be purged, so I welcome you not to breed. If the White race continues it won't need your demoralized cuck mentality.

>>515134704 (OP)
>2023
Cute. We're down to 1.17... actually a few months have passed, might be even lower, by that speed I wouldn't be surprised by 1.15 or lower.

>>515135431
Capitalism as it currently exists in the West is obviously a debt ponzi scheme that is eventually going to fail, even if you throw open the borders

>>515136361
>Muslims have flooded us for 58 years
Since your country fell below replacement level? Start breeding and stop complaining.

>>515137163
Yeah that's not going to fucking happen. But I'd prefer White India to non-White Europe, yes.

>>515137721
>Yeah that's not going to fucking happen
It might.
Medieval Europeans didn't bathe, they pissed and shit in the rivers, they used buckets and pots to dump shit in the streets, they didn't wash their hands, they treated wounds with urine, etc. Their understanding of medicine was dictated by the four humors. It wasn't until the 17th century that the discovery of microbes made this fall out of favor. Why do you think the black plague could spread so quickly? It was because of poor hygiene.
Literally everything you criticize India for would be happening to White Europeans if they didn't progress past this era. Everything good that is associated with Whites is a product of the enlightenment age.

>>515137658
Anon Danish women have more children than immigrant women

>>515137426
I'm a problem because I don't care? Oh well, what are you going to do about it? Nothing.

>>515137591
>Capitalism
There are FIVE communist states and 4 of them are below replacement level.
Cuba's TFR is 1.4.
Vietnam's TFR is 1.91.
North Korea's TFR is 1.78.
China's TFR is 1.0.
It's happening everywhere to every industralized economy. Laos is the outlier because its not fully industrialized yet.

>>515138452
>majority population has more kids than minority population
Wow, now show me per capita.

>>515138686
>what are you going to do about it?
I'm going to throw a party and invite every Likud politician from Israel, anon is not breeding, YAY!
Not really, I don't really give a shit about you. Like I said it's best if you just perished and didn't leave behind anything. We don't need weak faggot genes in our gene pool.

>>515134704 (OP)
me being virgin incel loser in the highest fertility rate eu country ?

>>515139243
Rope fuel. Get out there bud and find yourself a hot woman.

every man and woman needs to file for atleast ten buisiness lisences.
since those buinesses are considered persons then we just artificially inflate growth through that.
since thats all capitalism cares about.

>>515138843
My mistake, I can't read.

>>515139161
>Like I said it's best if you just perished and didn't leave behind anything.
You have no idea what I'm planning, but I promise you it'll be more effective than having a few kids. I have a whole itinerary and the means to see it done.

>>515137591
Both libs and nazis are so focused on the white replacement aspect of mass immigration (the former thinking it's good, the latter thinking it's bad) that they've both sort of tacitly internalized the idea that infinity immigrants would actually allow the system to continue on as it is forever. The reality is that it's a band-aid on a bullet wound of a fundamentally broken system, and all these countries still have large and increasing debt loads, failing infrastructure, and economies that are heavily dependent on asset inflation and financial wizardry. Immigrants do not magically produce more wealth out of thin air, whether they're janitor caste Africans or le elite human capital pajeets; what they primarily do is inflate housing prices, boost consumption, take on debt, and lower wages, i.e. enable us to squeeze a little more out of the existing system without doing any fundamental reform. The West's cope for why it was a good idea to export all our productive capacity to Asia was that we could make up for it by having robust "service economies", which in practice (to quote Wikipedia) "is mostly concentrated in
>financial services
i.e. summoning money out of thin air banker bullshit
>hospitality
(hotels)
>retail
i.e. buying consumer goods manufactured by the Chinese
>health
some biotech but mostly just treating illness
>human services
basically also just healthcare
>information technology
mostly propped up by venture capital and absurd overvaluations (hence why we're so desperate for AI to somehow actually be worth 100 quadrillion dollars)
>education
i.e. turning college into a business so that you can create trillions of dollars of "growth" out of student loans. The *entire thing* is basically a money printing shell game to benefit a small elite of investors and financiers at the cost of pulling the copper wiring out of the walls of the rest of the civilization, and we are rapidly approaching the limits of our ability to print more money

>>515136139
You realize that for many decades in all those countries they ran ad campaigns showing the west as some sort of paradise where everyone would find jobs, houses, good looking women and become rich, right?

>>515138250
You believe in masonic story thats ok. Try researching terrain theory by Pierre Antoine Béchamp. You could also kys, terrible cretin. No difference for the world and the timeline even.

>>515139279
27yo

https://www.instagram.com/royal_barbiie
https://www.instagram.com/royal__barbiie

she was the only woman i loved and met her only after switch at 6th school, in the end i did not even finish high school, got locked up in a mental health facility, he parents forced her to get married before she even finished school, she went to Russia and ditched her husband for sugar daddies (old rich Russian oligarchs), i will wait her in our hometown until the day i either lose my virginity with her or die trying :/

>>515139243
its gyppos

>>515137426
Cool, so the people who don't breed aren't worth anything genetically anyway. There's simply nothing to talk about, evolution will take care of it. Close the thread.

>>515134704 (OP)
Stfu
Dutch people would 100% have more kids if it weren't for mass immigration driving wages down and house prices up
Mass immigration also started in the 1960s when birth rates were still fine
It's a race war plain and simple

>>515134704 (OP)
Stop asking me to get married and have children. This is your last warning.

Collapse in fertility rate is happened over a hundred years ago in France, so they're a good case study on the outcomes of that

>>515134704 (OP)
>import people
>don't build houses
>housing is too expensive for young people
>young people don't get kids because they can't raise it in their tiny flats or parent's houses

>>515136568
His point is that there is no need to expand the population. HOw can you not understand that? Are you an import yourself?

>>515134704 (OP)
>These statistics from the last 20 years show the birthrates are decreasing for the population better bring in more immigrants to fix that I thought the immigrants from 20 years ago were supposed to fix that no they don't actually breed the illusion of birth rate deficiency comes from increased population meaning the more immigrants you bring in the worse the birth rates get therefore justifying even more immigrants.
The birthrate crisis is a kalergi lie and people need to see that.

>>515134704 (OP)
billions must die
looking at you - chinks & pajeets