Thread 515164807

Did the Rhodesians exaggerate their kill counts? It seems they have when the claim is 84 Rhodesians were able to take on a force of thousands and walk away with nothing but a couple bumps and scratchs. Idk, I like Rhodesia and all that, but this just seems like cope and propaganda to make mediocre white guys feel good about themselves. After all, it’s not called Rhodesia anymore. It seems the Queen read the writing on the wall and tried to save them but their ego got in the way. I feel like there is a lot of “trust me, bro” when it comes to this topic.

>>515164807 (OP)
Have you ever seen Africans shoot guns

>>515164807 (OP)
>It seems the Queen read the writing on the wall and tried to save them but their ego got in the way.
They wanted to go a different way because they had witnessed the failure of what imperial bureaucracies demanded in dismantling their empires and instead gradually bring in black Africans into the electorate instead of simply declaring a new system which is theoretically perfect. They were betrayed by the communists infiltrated in western governments who wanted Marxists to control the post-colonial states.

>>515164807 (OP)
They basically snuck up on the camp and opened fire and the entire thing went full chaos and niggers started shooting in random directions causing no end of friendly fire and confusion as to where the enemy was

You realize most of these "battles" were just discovering training camps and fucking up their day, right?

People romanticize this shit too much

>>515164807 (OP)
They just didn't understand how zeroing works and thought it was a power meter.

>>515164807 (OP)
Go search up the Seige of Jadotville and the sheer number of niggers the Irish killed.

>>515165667
>N-no, it doesn't count when Whites win! You can only call it valor when niggers stab unsuspecting Whites in unprovoked attacks, not when a smaller force of uniformed soldiers defeats a larger one with superior initiative and reconnaisance!

>>515164807 (OP)
this was possible because they didn't play by western cuck rules of war, they snuck into the nigger camp wearing blackface and slaughtered them while they were eating dinner lmao

>>515165881
They lost tho

>>515166021
yes thanks to westcuck pressure and sanctions

>>515166086
You do realize they were being overrun in real time right? It was a mathematical inevitability.

Next you'll tell me South Africa could have prevented majority rule too.

>>515164807 (OP)
>mediocre white guys
jasmine, is that you? I miss old america...

>>515166182
it was a matter of not having the materiel or raw resources to be able to continue fighting the war. the RLI had very low casualty rates til the end, it was a political defeat. redditor

>>515165881
He’s explaining why the K/D is so skewed anon.

>>515165647
Crazier then that:
>went in
>told the niggers to gather so they could show them their new weapons
>as the niggers crowded around, show them the new weapons
>it was a massacre
>and the blacks with guns had no idea who was shooting, so they just shot randomly
Wars in Africa are full of similar stories. Like there was one helicopter pilot who was wiping out brigades on the regular. Funny how those most closely related to gorillas are incompetent at guerrilla warfare.

>>515164807 (OP)
Operation Eland wasn't some example of the Rhodesians being superhuman warriors, it's an example of excellent operational planning. The ZANLA militants were caught off guard and mostly didn't even have their weapons with them, while the Rhodesians had multiple armored cars with aircraft autocannons mounted on them.

>>515166425
Economic. Rhodesia was economically strangled, and instead of suffering through what was needed and building their own independent systems they surrendered thinking things wouldn’t get much worse.

>>515165800
Kek, Che Guevara said as much about the Congolese in his memoirs

>>515166818
I'd argue they knew it was gonna get bad.
Something like 60% of whites fucked off by 1979. By 1985 something like 80% had left.

Kinda is what it is though, minority rule wasn't ever gonna continue in a landlocked african country.

>>515164807 (OP)
Rhodesia was created by Cecil Rhodes at the behest of the De Beers JEWlery family. Yes, Jews directed whites to create a country for their diamond business and now you Nazi larpers herald it as a beacon of hope for a "white state". Literally can't make this up. Jews are your masters.

>>515166818
>instead of suffering through what was needed
the militants resorted to targeting civilians, bombing shopping centers and blowing up passenger planes so i would assume there was plenty of suffering. would you rather your entire family be killed or just evacuate the country while it's still possible?

Blacks cannot war, they are literally worse than Indians

>>515167138
>minority rule wasn’t going to last
What are you talking about it is easy then ever for the few to control the many. The OP battle proves it. Rhodesia had two option, go full NK get nukes and kill anyone stirring up shit, or surrender and hope the economic empire doesn’t gut your family. They choose surrender. And they choose poorly.

Oh and they wouldn’t stay a minority long if the west actually made good on the economic blockade.

>>515167138
>landlocked
We had something good going with the axis of racism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcora_Exercise

>>515167283
Because they refused to do what was needed:
>respond in kind
Slaughter the blacks and their families. Slaughter their entire lineages. Massacre any and all who assist or give comfort to a black. And they had the army to do it. Instead they surrendered instead of revoking blacks rights.

Bad choice.

>>515167524
real life is not Hearts Of Iron 4 where you can just spawn in nukes and economic resources by pressing a few buttons and waiting

>>515164807 (OP)
>Who would win?
Last I checked Rhoedia doesn't exist anymore, apartheid is dead, and whites are a global minority.

>>515164807 (OP)
>Rhodesia battles be like
>See a village of African farmers
>Kill them all including women and children
>Claim they fought 5000 rebels

>>515164807 (OP)
Blacks unironically act like they would do good in a race war and then do shit like this. Whites know tactics and strategy while blacks just throw a thousand of their kind with guns at an enemy and hope they win. Blacks would get decimated in a race war.

>>515167661
Gee and what part of go the North Korea route do you not understand? Yeah the process will take decades, yeah suffering and famine WILL occur. But at the end of the day you have a truly free country of your own. One with nukes and missiles and its own uninterdictable supply chain. Which would have made Rhodesia the power player above all others during the second Congo war. They’d be in control of most of Africa by this point.

Instead they surrendered. And got slaughtered. Bad choice.

>>515164807 (OP)
It was due to blk boys kneeling and leaking when faced upon BWC they couldn’t keep leaking and cummming causing them to drop their guns the UN had to get involved and stopped all food from feeding the brave White soldiers that they had to let the blk boys “win” in the end

>>515167863
can't tell if you're baiting or actually retarded

>>515164807 (OP)
>mediocre white guys
you're not white

>>515168058
You are the retard who thinks surrendering to the Jewish empire who proceeded to SLAUGHTER them was a good idea.

>>515167863
North Korea has an important strategic location as a buffer between the West and China that dissuades both sides from invading them
Do you think the major powers would just sit idle as Rhodesia builds a fucking nuclear reactor?

they had some tactic where x number of them would setup an ambush, position their mgs with overlapping lanes of fire, hurt or panicked animals always move down grade, choosing locations where geography naturally funnels scared humans exposes the full length of their formation and so on down the list, they would setup these kill zones and then a second team with air support would start dropping bombs on their heads, would hit them hard and fast and cause them to move towards the boys waiting for them

they had a name for this strategy, used helicopters alot, it kind of reminded me of vietnam except they were doing it first, I think some big wigs in the military copied them

>>515164807 (OP)
They did exaggerate their k/d.
This is knowabke through inference, because the South Africans during the war in Angloa were known to have a better k/d than even the Rhodesians, yet the generally cited south African k/d in that war is nowhere near the claimed rhodesian k/d

>>515166425
>Portugal lost Angola and Mozambique
>Northern Rhodesia was lost
>South Africa was struggling maintaining Nambia
Rhodesia was winning so hard in under a decade they caved into sanctions

>>515165800
I mean is understandable when they're used to using Wakandian ray guns eh

>>515168615
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Force_(Rhodesia)

here it is and they give a different description that what I've read, its similiar though, and despite the differences between what I said and what wiki says, I assure you I didnt just make this up with my imagination, its a faint memory

>>515165540
Cope. Blacks killed each other savagely for thousands of years prior to white civilization arriving. Don’t get me wrong Jews were there sabotaging, but blacks can’t govern themselves regardless

>>515168846
ancient jews had to of been savage, to live in such close proximity to niggers with no natural barriers in the way, none for humans of that time period anyways, and still they managed to keep them out? amazing

>>515168627
How did a bunch of useless whiteys slam that many niggers and build a useful country, but communist retards like yourself don't have shit, really makes you think

>>515168995
>>515168709
For you not this other guy

>>515168957
>and still they managed to keep them out?
phoenicians and carthaginians didn't keep niggers out, they interbred and lived with them. was useful for jews who built their empires on slave trade and had no racial identity to preserve anyway

>>515164807 (OP)
Russian fighting is basically use wave after wave of men until you run out of ammo. How were they a superpower.
>>515166361
She’s right. That’s why chuds go far right with identity politics. They can’t compete. It’s eugenics

>>515164807 (OP)

TOTAL PIGSKIN DEATH

>>515169750

Mediocre white boys need myths of superiority to cope with their skill issues

>>515164807 (OP)
America's main strength is propaganda. They will make any victory seem greater than it actually is and make themselves known throughout the world while simply hushing up any defeats or turning them into victories
>ZANU guerillas and refugees
>5,000 ZANU troops (per Rhodesia)
>possibly civilians
>The entire source for the 84 soldiers is book without a single reliable source
Even Wikipedia can't stand this nonsense lol